---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 07/08/13: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:48 AM - Re: Re: Difference between mark II and mark III (Tony Oldman) 2. 04:22 AM - Re: Fw: BRS for Xtra (Richard Girard) 3. 05:48 AM - Re: Rotax 582/ Firestar (Richard Pike) 4. 05:48 AM - Re: Fw: BRS for Xtra (Dennis Rowe) 5. 08:30 AM - Re: Difference between mark II and mark III (Larlaeb) 6. 10:02 AM - Ivo prop bell cranks, pre 1994 (Dennis Rowe) 7. 10:16 AM - Re: Difference between mark II and mark III (mike91911) 8. 02:05 PM - VHF Radio in a Kolb (Kirby, Dennis Civ USAF AFMC AFNWC/ENS) 9. 02:17 PM - Re: Re: Difference between mark II and mark III (Sky Biker) 10. 02:47 PM - Re: Know your Kolb (Kirby, Dennis Civ USAF AFMC AFNWC/ENS) 11. 04:18 PM - Re: VHF Radio in a Kolb (Dennis Rowe) 12. 06:21 PM - 912 propeller, 4" prop hub ext, Exhaust for sale (Jason Omelchuck) 13. 06:29 PM - blog report of the Rockhouse fly-in (Larry Cottrell) 14. 07:12 PM - Re: blog report of the Rockhouse fly-in (Beauford) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:48:58 AM PST US From: "Tony Oldman" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Difference between mark II and mark III I have not read all the responses yet so some of this may be old news and some may be conflicting. I have been flying a MK111C 503 for 200 plus hours from sea level and into some mountain country .I have flown it to 7000 ft above sea level with out any performance issues . I would agree that stepping up to a 582 would be wise. The centre stick, like you I was going to change that and the throttle , after a couple of flights the need to do that went away . The only reason I could think of for changing it now would be if your were doing a lot of training and need to be a little more convention .The sling seats have never been a problem. Carry a couple of spare large cable ties with you as I found when I first started flying the Kolb some broke. Since they have been replaced with new ones no more problem, that was about 6 years ago . The transition to the Kolb was a non event, before purchasing it { 60 hrs TSN } I did 1 flight from an air force base in rough weather with the builder. On arrival at my home airport { by trailer } a local high time GA pilot who is also a rated ultra light instructor flew the Kolb for about 30 minutes ,then I went for a check flight with him, after three take off/ landings he climbed out and said enjoy . I had just completed about 100hrs in a aronca champ so the tail dragger was not new to me also the 100 hrs before that were also tail dragger mixed with some trike time.The Kolb is fun to fly, very forgiving and responsive . It will fly onto the ground nicely or it will 3 point nicely , I would recommend to fly it on the first couple of times then move to three point landings. You need to make sure that the wheels are touching the grass tops before running out of flying speed and that will happen fast once you flare. Have fun the Kolb is a safe fun machine . Downunder MK111c 503 Regards Tony ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:22:04 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fwd: BRS for Xtra From: Richard Girard Brad, The 1350 is overkill. Once you pull that handle you're just along for the ride anyway, and the Kolb structure will provide great protection. Buy from Kolb and support those who support you. Rick Girard do not archive On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Brad Nation wrote: > > I'm going to add a BRS to recently acquired Xtra, but I'm not sure which > one of the two recommended by the BRS rep to go with. The two sizes are the > 1050 and 1350. The l350 is about $1000 more but it will be slower decent. > The 1050 is the recommended size on the Kolb web site. So I have a few > questions for the Kolb flyers out there. > Is anyone using the 1350 or is everyone using the 1050? > Does anyone have any recommendations of one over the other? > Any suggestions as to where to purchase it other than from the factory and > why? > > Thanks in advance. > > Brad Nation > N952DK > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:48:09 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Rotax 582/ Firestar From: "Richard Pike" That is Ed Martin's FSII. Here is the page showing it in it's original state: http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/kolb.htm It has been pictured on the Kolb list for many years, got rolled up into a ball a while back, was rebuilt and has been flying now for 3 years. The 582 is delightful, amazing climb rate, cruises at around 4800 rpm at 3 gph. A classic example of how a big engine loafing is nicer than a smaller engine working. Maybe if I get ambitious, I'll update the web page to show the airplane in it's current state. Maybe. -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404180#404180 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:48:39 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fwd: BRS for Xtra From: Dennis Rowe Very good advice for all of us Kolb owners, we have to keep the Boys in Lond on in business, I think I'll check and see what kind of hats and tee shirts t hey have for sale these days, keep spreading the gospel of Homer and support Brian and Travis! Dennis "Skid" Rowe Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA > Buy from Kolb and support those who support you. > > Rick Girard > do not archive > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:30:00 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Difference between mark II and mark III From: "Larlaeb" I agree with the statements on the center control stick. When I first got the plane I was convinced that I would need to move the stick to the center or at least the throttle lever to the left side. After flying for just a few hours, the stick position seems natural and reaching the throttle across my lap with my left hand is no problem at all. I've abandoned any plans to move them and I'm convinced that the ease of entry that the current configuration allows in the MkIII classic more than makes up for the control positions. Just my 2 cents. Allan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404197#404197 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:02:21 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Ivo prop bell cranks, pre 1994 From: Dennis Rowe Kolbers, Been doing a bunch of experimenting with propellers lately and find myself in need of two of the little torque arms that bolt onto the root end of the torsion rod on the pre 1994 Ivo prop blades. They have a little square hole that fits over the twist rod. If anybody has a couple from a broken ivo, drop me a note. Thanks Dennis "Skid" Rowe Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:16:21 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Difference between mark II and mark III From: "mike91911" My bigger concern was the throttle location. To me it would be awkward reaching across from the left but I won't change anything until I have some time logged in the plane. Easier entry and exit with the center stick is something I hadn't considered. Thanks. Mike Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404207#404207 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:05:50 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: VHF Radio in a Kolb From: "Kirby, Dennis Civ USAF AFMC AFNWC/ENS" kinne russ asked: << Can someone tell me which Garmin GPS works best in a Kolb? Also what VHF radio? Thanx Russ K >> Russ - Last year, I finally installed a "real" aircraft radio in my Mark-3 (as opposed to using a handheld), and I am quite happy with it. It is a FlightLine-760. Cost was about $600. Built-in intercom, fits in a 2-1/2 inch instrument hole. Made in Japan. Excellent quality. Dennis Kirby Mark-3, 912ul ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:17:21 PM PST US From: Sky Biker Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Difference between mark II and mark III Like several others I was ready to install a dual stick when I first start ed flying. After a few hours I found that the center stick position had a natural feeling to it. I did not like the center throttle position at all and designed a dual throttle system. The throttles are located on the out s ides and can now be operated from either seat using the right or left hand. When the throttle is pulled all the way back it clears the door openings f or easy access. > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Difference between mark II and mark III > From: larlaeb@gmail.com > Date: Mon=2C 8 Jul 2013 08:29:43 -0700 > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > > > I agree with the statements on the center control stick. When I first go t the plane I was convinced that I would need to move the stick to the cent er or at least the throttle lever to the left side. After flying for just a few hours=2C the stick position seems natural and reaching the throttle a cross my lap with my left hand is no problem at all. I've abandoned any pl ans to move them and I'm convinced that the ease of entry that the current configuration allows in the MkIII classic more than makes up for the contro l positions. Just my 2 cents. > > Allan > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404197#404197 > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:47:59 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Know your Kolb From: "Kirby, Dennis Civ USAF AFMC AFNWC/ENS" "Ralph B" wrote: << There have been many accidents attributed to big plane pilots flying ultralights and Light Sport after flying the big ones. The classic example is flaring too early on landing and stalling the airplane. It comes down hard and bends the gear. How many times have we heard about that one? >> Ralph - How true! You told my story exactly. That is what happened on the maiden flight of my newly-built Mark-3. Bent both gear legs. After that, I went down to the Kolb factory and flew the whole weekend with Bryan Melburn and Norm Labhart in the factory demonstrator Mark-III Xtra. All we did was patterns & landings for about 3 hours of flight time. Best spent flight training money I've ever spent! The good news is, replacing a Kolb landing gear leg is relatively inexpensive! Dennis Kirby Mark-3, 912ul, Powerfin Sandia Park, NM ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:18:31 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: VHF Radio in a Kolb From: Dennis Rowe Dennis, If you could post some pics of your installation I would love to see them, I 'm getting pretty tired of the tangle of wires with my Icom, portable interc om and headsets. I need some ideas of how to tidy it up. Dennis "Skid" Rowe Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA On Jul 8, 2013, at 5:04 PM, "Kirby, Dennis Civ USAF AFMC AFNWC/ENS" wrote: > kinne russ asked: << Can someone tell me which Garmin GPS works best in a Kolb? > Also what VHF radio? Thanx Russ K >> > > Russ =93 > > Last year, I finally installed a =9Creal=9D aircraft radio in m y Mark-3 (as opposed to using a handheld), and I am quite happy with it. It is a FlightLine-760. Cost was about $600. Built-in intercom, fits in a 2- 1/2 inch instrument hole. Made in Japan. Excellent quality. > > Dennis Kirby > Mark-3, 912ul > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:21:53 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: 912 propeller, 4" prop hub ext, Exhaust for sale From: "Jason Omelchuck" Hello All, For the 912 engine I have: A 68" 3 bladed taper tip Warp Drive propeller with nickel leading edge $400 A 4" propeller hub extension $100 A Stainless steel exhaust system (at least I think it is stainless as a magnet just barely sticks to it) $150 Attached is a picture of the exhaust configuration. All are in great condition and buyer pays for shipping. Regards Jason Omelchuck Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404244#404244 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/exhaust_167.png ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:29:58 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: blog report of the Rockhouse fly-in From: Larry Cottrell http://highdesertflier.blogspot.com/ - password - owyheeflyer This is a report of the part of the Rockhouse fly-in that I was able to participate in. There are two short videos within the blog page, as well as a lot of pictures of the area that we used for our fly out. The first video is of an excellent example of how the Kolb can and should be used. You do not need a password to view the blog, but you will for the videos. Even though it was extremely hot, we all had a good time, although it was cut short for me as I had to work on a range fire in Northern Nev. Larry -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:12:41 PM PST US From: "Beauford " Subject: RE: Kolb-List: blog report of the Rockhouse fly-in Super job with the situation report, Brother Cottrell. Looks like a ton of fun. Thanx much fer sharing. Beauford FF-076 Brandon, FL Do not archive From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Cottrell Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 9:30 PM Subject: Kolb-List: blog report of the Rockhouse fly-in http://highdesertflier.blogspot.com/ - password - owyheeflyer This is a report of the part of the Rockhouse fly-in that I was able to participate in ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.