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1. 09:10 AM - Re: Need explanation of fuel system w/dual 5gal pickups (dsmithlib)
2. 12:17 PM - Re: Re: Need explanation of fuel system w/dual 5gal pickups (Rick Neilsen)
3. 03:45 PM - Re: Re: Need explanation of fuel system w/dual 5gal pickups (Jim Baker)
4. 03:46 PM - Re: rides last evening (Rick Lewis)
5. 07:35 PM - Re: Re: Need explanation of fuel system w/dual 5gal pickups (Richard Girard)
6. 07:53 PM - Re: Re: Upgrading from 503 to 582 on Mark III (Dennis Rowe)
7. 08:26 PM - Re: Re: Need explanation of fuel system w/dual 5gal pickups (Jim Baker)
8. 08:29 PM - Re: Upgrading from 503 to 582 on Mark III (lownslow)
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Subject: | Re: Need explanation of fuel system w/dual 5gal pickups |
Thank you to all for replying.
>From what I have learned here......
I will...
use individual pickups from the top
then connect with a T
then go to a filter
then to a elec facet pump
then to the pulse pump
I will T off at some point for primer
They will be well vented but I am not sure how I will plumb the vents at this moment......sounds
like they will also get T'd and then plumbed overboard.
Thank you !
Thank you !
Thank you !
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Dave Smith
RV7 Flying
Kolb Firestar II (in-progress)
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Subject: | Re: Need explanation of fuel system w/dual 5gal pickups |
I keep hearing people say they don't want to put the fuel pickup on the
bottom of their tanks. I don't understand their issues. I have been flying
my VW powered MKIIIC for fifteen years. I use the press fit bushings in the
standard Kolb plastic tanks and have never had a seeping fuel issue. About
7-8 years ago I replaced the tanks just to be safe and again no issues. I
now have the 6 gallon tanks ready to install and yes I have drilled the
bottoms and installed the press fit bushings. I insert a fitting that has a
finger strainer and shut off valve.
My theory is feeding fuel from the bottom is the most reliable way to get
fuel to my engine because there are fewer things that can go wrong. Fuel
feeds evenly from both tanks and if one tank gets filled more than the
other they will equalize in time. Again I have never had a press fit
bushing leak but I have had a fuel line leak. When the fuel line developed
a leak it was dangerous but it didn't cause a engine failure like would
have happened if I was feeding from the top of the tanks. I did notice a
fuel smell that got me looking. It would seem that fuel seepage would be
the worst case problem for bottom feed. If you top feed and you get even a
minor air leak you wouldn't know till engine start or worst case in the air.
I use a stepped drill bit to drill the hole in the plastic fuel tanks for
the fuel bushings. I think they drill a more rounded hole in thin plastic.
Then I very carefully debur the holes.
I tee the fuel tanks together. I have flown many different GA airplanes
that have fuel selectors and they are a pain. Something else that you HAVE
to do. On low wing airplanes with wing tanks, where it is necessary it is a
necessary evil, it is ok. Why add something like a fuel selector that adds
to the work load and is a potential problem?
Just my opinion. As always this is worth what you paid for it.
Rick Neilsen
1st Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Frankd <FDucker@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> I have the two tank system in my MkIII Xtra.
> The fuel pickup tubes go to the bottom of both tanks and I have connected
> them with a T at the top and then this single fuel line I run down to a
> fuel pump placed at the height of the bottom of the tanks.
>
> The trick is to initially suck fuel from BOTH tanks so there is no air in
> the lines.
>
> Both 5Gal tanks are side by side so if one is full and one is half full
> the fuel will eventually flow from the full to the lower until they are
> equal.
> My vent lines just plumb into the top of the tank and I run them up about
> 6 inches and then down to the outside of the plane. In case I go inverted
> the fuel will stay outside the aircraft.
>
> This system acts like one tank, no switching required. Just fill both up
> equally and its fine.
> I'm thinking of adding another 5 gal tank and may add a valve as a control
> into the 1st two if I do that.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Oh, I also have two fuel filters, one just after the T at the top of the
> tank and one on the fuel pump. No problems so far, 50Hrs flying.
>
> FrankD
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405914#405914
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Need explanation of fuel system w/dual 5gal pickups |
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Murphy said it best - "Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong".
Yours doesn't leak and hasn't leaked. That's not to say that at some time in the
future it won't leak. The top plumbed units won't leak as yours might but still
have a slight chance of leaking thru a cracked seam or some other mechanism.
There is no advantage to top plumbed except possibly access and maintenance.
Top plumbed allows me to but a bronze filtered clunk at the bottom of the tank
standpipe without having to pull the tank out. All maintenance can be done with
the tank as is, where is. Either methodology, top or bottom, will work, just
depends on your point of view. I've had the same tanks for 18 years. There was
never a time when I doubted the integrity of fuel delivery methodology chosen.
Personal choice, not a denouncement.
Date sent: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 15:17:02 -0400
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Need explanation of fuel system w/dual 5gal pickups
From: Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm@gmail.com>
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Send reply to: kolb-list@matronics.com
>
> I keep hearing people say they don't want to put the fuel pickup on the bottom
of their tanks. I
> don't understand their issues. I have been flying my VW powered MKIIIC for fifteen
years. I use
> the press fit bushings in the standard Kolb plastic tanks and have never had
a seeping fuel
> issue. About 7-8 years ago I replaced the tanks just to be safe and again no
issues. I now have
> the 6 gallon tanks ready to install and yes I have drilled the bottoms and installed
the press fit
> bushings. I insert a fitting that has a finger strainer and shut off valve.
>
> My theory is feeding fuel from the bottom is the most reliable way to get fuel
to my engine
> because there are fewer things that can go wrong. Fuel feeds evenly from both
tanks and if one
> tank gets filled more than the other they will equalize in time. Again I have
never had a press fit
> bushing leak but I have had a fuel line leak. When the fuel line developed a
leak it was
> dangerous but it didn't cause a engine failure like would have happened if I
was feeding from the
> top of the tanks. I did notice a fuel smell that got me looking. It would seem
that fuel seepage
> would be the worst case problem for bottom feed. If you top feed and you get
even a minor air
> leak you wouldn't know till engine start or worst case in the air.
>
> I use a stepped drill bit to drill the hole in the plastic fuel tanks for the
fuel bushings. I think they
> drill a more rounded hole in thin plastic. Then I very carefully debur the holes.
>
> I tee the fuel tanks together. I have flown many different GA airplanes that
have fuel selectors
> and they are a pain. Something else that you HAVE to do. On low wing airplanes
with wing
> tanks, where it is necessary it is a necessary evil, it is ok. Why add something
like a fuel selector
> that adds to the work load and is a potential problem?
>
> Just my opinion. As always this is worth what you paid for it.
>
> Rick Neilsen
> 1st Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
>
> On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Frankd <FDucker@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> I have the two tank system in my MkIII Xtra.
> The fuel pickup tubes go to the bottom of both tanks and I have connected
them with a T at
> the top and then this single fuel line I run down to a fuel pump placed at
the
height of the
> bottom of the tanks.
>
> The trick is to initially suck fuel from BOTH tanks so there is no air in
the
lines.
>
> Both 5Gal tanks are side by side so if one is full and one is half full the
fuel
will eventually
> flow from the full to the lower until they are equal.
> My vent lines just plumb into the top of the tank and I run them up about
6
inches and then
> down to the outside of the plane. In case I go inverted the fuel will stay
outside the aircraft.
>
> This system acts like one tank, no switching required. Just fill both up
equally and its
> fine.
> I'm thinking of adding another 5 gal tank and may add a valve as a control
into the 1st two
> if I do that.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Oh, I also have two fuel filters, one just after the T at the top of the
tank and
one on the
> fuel pump. No problems so far, 50Hrs flying.
>
> FrankD
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405914#405914
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: rides last evening |
Thanks Ralph, she looks like she's having a ball. Fun is what it's all about.....
:D
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Rick Lewis
(VW Watercooled Engine)
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Subject: | Re: Need explanation of fuel system w/dual 5gal pickups |
When I decided to redo the fuel system in my Mk III I debated top or bottom
draw. Then I pulled the old tanks out and the grommet was split almost to
the fitting. Pushed me in favor of top draw, plus that was the factory
recommendation. Since Mr. Murphy never sleeps, I had an engine out landing
because I didn't have any sort of filter on the top pickups. Fixed that and
never had another fuel problem.
Venting. Something I haven't seen discussed on the forum is venting that
will not become a drain if you inadvertently do a low altitude outside loop
(flip over on landing). The LongEZ crowd recommends a vent design that
includes a suction break to prevent such an occurrence. I never got it
implemented, but I will during this rebuild. Just a thought.
Rick Girard
do not archive
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Jim Baker <jim.baker@windstream.net> wrote:
> **
> Murphy said it best - "Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong".
>
> Yours doesn't leak and hasn't leaked. That's not to say that at some
> time in the future it won't leak. The top plumbed units won't leak as yours
> might but still have a slight chance of leaking thru a cracked seam or some
> other mechanism.
>
> There is no advantage to top plumbed except possibly access and
> maintenance. Top plumbed allows me to but a bronze filtered clunk at the
> bottom of the tank standpipe without having to pull the tank out. All
> maintenance can be done with the tank as is, where is. Either methodology,
> top or bottom, will work, just depends on your point of view. I've had the
> same tanks for 18 years. There was never a time when I doubted the
> integrity of fuel delivery methodology chosen. Personal choice, not a
> denouncement.
>
>
> Date sent: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 15:17:02 -0400
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Need explanation of fuel
> system w/dual 5gal pickups
> From: Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm@gmail.com>
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Send reply to: kolb-list@matronics.com
>
> >
> > I keep hearing people say they don't want to put the fuel pickup on the
> bottom of their tanks. I
> > don't understand their issues. I have been flying my VW powered MKIIIC
> for fifteen years. I use
> > the press fit bushings in the standard Kolb plastic tanks and have never
> had a seeping fuel
> > issue. About 7-8 years ago I replaced the tanks just to be safe and
> again no issues. I now have
> > the 6 gallon tanks ready to install and yes I have drilled the bottoms
> and installed the press fit
> > bushings. I insert a fitting that has a finger strainer and shut off
> valve.
> >
> > My theory is feeding fuel from the bottom is the most reliable way to
> get fuel to my engine
> > because there are fewer things that can go wrong. Fuel feeds evenly from
> both tanks and if one
> > tank gets filled more than the other they will equalize in time. Again I
> have never had a press fit
> > bushing leak but I have had a fuel line leak. When the fuel line
> developed a leak it was
> > dangerous but it didn't cause a engine failure like would have happened
> if I was feeding from the
> > top of the tanks. I did notice a fuel smell that got me looking. It
> would seem that fuel seepage
> > would be the worst case problem for bottom feed. If you top feed and you
> get even a minor air
> > leak you wouldn't know till engine start or worst case in the air.
> >
> > I use a stepped drill bit to drill the hole in the plastic fuel tanks
> for the fuel bushings. I think they
> > drill a more rounded hole in thin plastic. Then I very carefully debur
> the holes.
> >
> > I tee the fuel tanks together. I have flown many different GA airplanes
> that have fuel selectors
> > and they are a pain. Something else that you HAVE to do. On low wing
> airplanes with wing
> > tanks, where it is necessary it is a necessary evil, it is ok. Why add
> something like a fuel selector
> > that adds to the work load and is a potential problem?
> >
> > Just my opinion. As always this is worth what you paid for it.
> >
> > Rick Neilsen
> > 1st Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Frankd <FDucker@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> > I have the two tank system in my MkIII Xtra.
> > The fuel pickup tubes go to the bottom of both tanks and I have
> connected them with a T at
> > the top and then this single fuel line I run down to a fuel pump
> placed at the height of the
> > bottom of the tanks.
> >
> > The trick is to initially suck fuel from BOTH tanks so there is no
> air in the lines.
> >
> > Both 5Gal tanks are side by side so if one is full and one is half
> full the fuel will eventually
> > flow from the full to the lower until they are equal.
> > My vent lines just plumb into the top of the tank and I run them up
> about 6 inches and then
> > down to the outside of the plane. In case I go inverted the fuel
> will stay outside the aircraft.
> >
> > This system acts like one tank, no switching required. Just fill
> both up equally and its
> > fine.
> > I'm thinking of adding another 5 gal tank and may add a valve as a
> control into the 1st two
> > if I do that.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Oh, I also have two fuel filters, one just after the T at the top of
> the tank and one on the
> > fuel pump. No problems so far, 50Hrs flying.
> >
> > FrankD
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405914#405914
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>
> Jim Baker
> Elmore City, OK
> 580.788.2779 home
> 405.426.5377 cell
>
>
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>
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>
>
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Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
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Subject: | Re: Upgrading from 503 to 582 on Mark III |
You'll be fine, moving a 670 rearward a little shouldn't cause any CG issues as
it is much lighter than 912s and VW engines many are using.
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
On Aug 4, 2013, at 11:30 PM, "lownslow" <mnmcouillard@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> can I throw another question out there? I am putting a "Rotax Rick" 670 on a
Classic Mark III and I'm wondering if I am OK with an E gearbox(after seeing
the comment regarding having to move the 582 mount back 3/4" to clear the starter
going from the 503 to the 582
>
> any thoughts? am I ok with the E gearbox?
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405945#405945
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Need explanation of fuel system w/dual 5gal pickups |
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I generally recommend a sintered bronze filter as a clunk on the bottom of the
standpipe. For those unfamiliar with the term clunk, comes from the radio control
world where the fuel pickup was guided by G forces to follow the fuel's location
in the tank. It's close enough to the bottom of the tank that should the filter-hose-
standpipe connection be compromised you'll still draw fuel from the standpipe,
it
just won't be filtered and you won't get that last little bit out of the tank.
If you're
flying that close to the edge....well......
Date sent: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 21:35:18 -0500
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Need explanation of fuel system w/dual 5gal pickups
From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com" <kolb-list@matronics.com>
Send reply to: kolb-list@matronics.com
>
> When I decided to redo the fuel system in my Mk III I debated top or bottom draw.
Then I pulled
> the old tanks out and the grommet was split almost to the fitting. Pushed me
in favor of top draw,
> plus that was the factory recommendation. Since Mr. Murphy never sleeps, I had
an engine out
> landing because I didn't have any sort of filter on the top pickups. Fixed that
and never had
> another fuel problem.
> Venting. Something I haven't seen discussed on the forum is venting that will
not become a drain
> if you inadvertently do a low altitude outside loop (flip over on landing). The
LongEZ crowd
> recommends a vent design that includes a suction break to prevent such an occurrence.
I never
> got it implemented, but I will during this rebuild. Just a thought.
>
> Rick Girard
> do not archive
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Jim Baker <jim.baker@windstream.net > wrote:
> Murphy said it best - "Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong".
>
> Yours doesn't leak and hasn't leaked. That's not to say that at some time
in the future it
> won't leak. The top plumbed units won't leak as yours might but still have
a slight chance of
> leaking thru a cracked seam or some other mechanism.
>
> There is no advantage to top plumbed except possibly access and maintenance.
Top
> plumbed allows me to but a bronze filtered clunk at the bottom of the tank
standpipe
> without having to pull the tank out. All maintenance can be done with the
tank as is, where
> is. Either methodology, top or bottom, will work, just depends on your point
of view. I've had
> the same tanks for 18 years. There was never a time when I doubted the integrity
of fuel
> delivery methodology chosen. Personal choice, not a denouncement.
>
>
>
>
> Date sent:Mon, 5 Aug 2013 15:17:02 -0400
> Subject:Re: Kolb-List: Re: Need explanation of fuel system w/dual 5gal
> pickups
> From:Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm@gmail.com>
> To:kolb-list@matronics.com
> Send reply to:kolb-list@matronics.com
>
> >
> > I keep hearing people say they don't want to put the fuel pickup on the
bottom of their
> tanks. I
> > don't understand their issues. I have been flying my VW powered MKIIIC
for fifteen
> years. I use
> > the press fit bushings in the standard Kolb plastic tanks and have never
had a seeping
> fuel
> > issue. About 7-8 years ago I replaced the tanks just to be safe and again
no issues. I
> now have
> > the 6 gallon tanks ready to install and yes I have drilled the bottoms
and
installed the
> press fit
> > bushings. I insert a fitting that has a finger strainer and shut off valve.
> >
> > My theory is feeding fuel from the bottom is the most reliable way to get
fuel to my engine
> > because there are fewer things that can go wrong. Fuel feeds evenly from
both tanks and
> if one
> > tank gets filled more than the other they will equalize in time. Again
I have
never had a
> press fit
> > bushing leak but I have had a fuel line leak. When the fuel line developed
a leak it was
> > dangerous but it didn't cause a engine failure like would have happened
if
I was feeding
> from the
> > top of the tanks. I did notice a fuel smell that got me looking. It would
seem that fuel
> seepage
> > would be the worst case problem for bottom feed. If you top feed and you
get even a
> minor air
> > leak you wouldn't know till engine start or worst case in the air.
> >
> > I use a stepped drill bit to drill the hole in the plastic fuel tanks for
the fuel
bushings. I
> think they
> > drill a more rounded hole in thin plastic. Then I very carefully debur
the
holes.
> >
> > I tee the fuel tanks together. I have flown many different GA airplanes
that
have fuel
> selectors
> > and they are a pain. Something else that you HAVE to do. On low wing
airplanes with
> wing
> > tanks, where it is necessary it is a necessary evil, it is ok. Why add
something like a fuel
> selector
> > that adds to the work load and is a potential problem?
> >
> > Just my opinion. As always this is worth what you paid for it.
> >
> > Rick Neilsen
> > 1st Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Frankd <FDucker@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> > I have the two tank system in my MkIII Xtra.
> > The fuel pickup tubes go to the bottom of both tanks and I have connected
them with a
> T at
> > the top and then this single fuel line I run down to a fuel pump placed
at
the height of
> the
> > bottom of the tanks.
> >
> > The trick is to initially suck fuel from BOTH tanks so there is no air
in the
lines.
> >
> > Both 5Gal tanks are side by side so if one is full and one is half full
the
fuel will
> eventually
> > flow from the full to the lower until they are equal.
> > My vent lines just plumb into the top of the tank and I run them up about
6
inches and
> then
> > down to the outside of the plane. In case I go inverted the fuel will stay
outside the
> aircraft.
> >
> > This system acts like one tank, no switching required. Just fill both up
equally and its
> > fine.
> > I'm thinking of adding another 5 gal tank and may add a valve as a control
into the 1st
> two
> > if I do that.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Oh, I also have two fuel filters, one just after the T at the top of the
tank
and one on
> the
> > fuel pump. No problems so far, 50Hrs flying.
> >
> > FrankD
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405914#405914
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Mk IIIC
> Thanks, Homer GBYM
>
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> - Groucho Marx
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Subject: | Re: Upgrading from 503 to 582 on Mark III |
awesome Dennis, thanks so much, sir!
I figured that was the case but wanted to be sure. I appreciate it!
Mike
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