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1. 05:21 AM - Re: Mounting light on Rudder? (racerjerry)
2. 06:07 AM - Re: Mounting light on Rudder? (Richard Pike)
3. 07:49 AM - Re: Re: Mounting light on Rudder? (kinne russ)
4. 12:56 PM - Mark III POH (mark rinehart)
5. 05:18 PM - Re: Re: Mounting light on Rudder? (Richard Girard)
6. 07:00 PM - Re: Re: Mounting light on Rudder? (kinne russ)
7. 07:05 PM - Re: Re: Mounting light on Rudder? (Dennis Rowe)
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| Subject: | Re: Mounting light on Rudder? |
Well, Cessna mounted a light on the rudder trailing edge; but please remember that
if you do, you are adding mass in the WRONG DIRECTION that will increase the
chance of FLUTTER. Not Recommended.
My vote is for mounting on top of the vertical stabilizer.
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Jerry King
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| Subject: | Re: Mounting light on Rudder? |
My MKIII needed a counterbalance to stop the rudder flutter, probably due to the
addition of a light. If I had it to do over again, I would have mounted one
on each wing tip instead. Here are the pictures and description of the light and
counterbalance:
http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/pg6.htm
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Hebrews 11:1
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| Subject: | Re: Mounting light on Rudder? |
When Cessna mounted a light on the trailing edge of the rudder, you can bet they
BALANCED the rudder -- so it wouldn't flutter.
They recommend that even when you repaint a control surface, you re-balance to
compensate for this very slight weight difference.
This is important, even at the low speeds of a Kolb. Flutter can destroy a control
surface in a couple of seconds.
Russ K
On Aug 16, 2013, at 8:21 AM, racerjerry wrote:
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> Well, Cessna mounted a light on the rudder trailing edge; but please remember
that if you do, you are adding mass in the WRONG DIRECTION that will increase
the chance of FLUTTER. Not Recommended.
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Anyone have a POH for a Mk3 Classic that I can use (will modify the V-speed
numbers for my airplane)?-Thanks.-
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| Subject: | Re: Mounting light on Rudder? |
Does anyone have a picture of a Cessna with a light mounted as described?
Rick Girard
do not archive
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 9:49 AM, kinne russ <russk50@gmail.com> wrote:
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> When Cessna mounted a light on the trailing edge of the rudder, you can
> bet they BALANCED the rudder -- so it wouldn't flutter.
> They recommend that even when you repaint a control surface, you
> re-balance to compensate for this very slight weight difference.
> This is important, even at the low speeds of a Kolb. Flutter can destroy a
> control surface in a couple of seconds.
> Russ K
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> On Aug 16, 2013, at 8:21 AM, racerjerry wrote:
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> > Well, Cessna mounted a light on the rudder trailing edge; but please
> remember that if you do, you are adding mass in the WRONG DIRECTION that
> will increase the chance of FLUTTER. Not Recommended.
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> > My vote is for mounting on top of the vertical stabilizer.
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Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
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- Groucho Marx
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| Subject: | Re: Mounting light on Rudder? |
Rick, my Cessna 170 had such a light, factory-mounted as original
equipment. If you can find a 170 anywhere (at least the B model) I think
you'll see that light. I no longer have that aircraft so can't send you
a pic.
do not archive
Russ K
On Aug 16, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Richard Girard wrote:
> Does anyone have a picture of a Cessna with a light mounted as
described?
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> Rick Girard
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> On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 9:49 AM, kinne russ <russk50@gmail.com> wrote:
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> When Cessna mounted a light on the trailing edge of the rudder, you
can bet they BALANCED the rudder -- so it wouldn't flutter.
> They recommend that even when you repaint a control surface, you
re-balance to compensate for this very slight weight difference.
> This is important, even at the low speeds of a Kolb. Flutter can
destroy a control surface in a couple of seconds.
> Russ K
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> On Aug 16, 2013, at 8:21 AM, racerjerry wrote:
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> > Well, Cessna mounted a light on the rudder trailing edge; but please
remember that if you do, you are adding mass in the WRONG DIRECTION that
will increase the chance of FLUTTER. Not Recommended.
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> > My vote is for mounting on top of the vertical stabilizer.
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| Subject: | Re: Mounting light on Rudder? |
Got a 170 we are restoring but the rudder is at my buddy's garage, looks a l
ot like Rev Pikes only made with corrugated aluminum.
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
On Aug 16, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote:
> Does anyone have a picture of a Cessna with a light mounted as described?
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> Rick Girard
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> On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 9:49 AM, kinne russ <russk50@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> When Cessna mounted a light on the trailing edge of the rudder, you can b
et they BALANCED the rudder -- so it wouldn't flutter.
>> They recommend that even when you repaint a control surface, you re-balan
ce to compensate for this very slight weight difference.
>> This is important, even at the low speeds of a Kolb. Flutter can destroy a
control surface in a couple of seconds.
>> Russ K
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>> On Aug 16, 2013, at 8:21 AM, racerjerry wrote:
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>> > Well, Cessna mounted a light on the rudder trailing edge; but please re
member that if you do, you are adding mass in the WRONG DIRECTION that will i
ncrease the chance of FLUTTER. Not Recommended.
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>> > My vote is for mounting on top of the vertical stabilizer.
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>> > Jerry King
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> Thanks, Homer GBYM
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