---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 09/23/13: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:46 AM - Re: Trip to the beach (william sullivan) 2. 05:56 AM - Re: Re: New Firefly Video (Pat Ladd) 3. 06:42 AM - Re: New Firefly Video (t41pilot) 4. 06:45 AM - Re: Trip to the beach (Larlaeb) 5. 10:03 AM - Re: Trip to the beach (John Hauck) 6. 11:07 AM - Re: Trip to the beach (Larlaeb) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:46:21 AM PST US From: william sullivan Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Trip to the beach - Very nice.- Where?=0A=0Ado not archive=0A--------- ------------------------- ------------------------- ------- Bill Sullivan=0A------------ ------------------------- ------------------------- ---- Windsor Locks, Ct.=0A------------- ------------------------- ------------------------- ---- FS 447=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Larlaeb =0ATo: kolb-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Monday, September 23, 2013 1:36 AM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: Trip to the beach=0A =0A a quick run down to the coast this morning and landing on the beach.- Pr etty good cross wind but at least the beach was relatively clear.=0A=0Ahttp s://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxdXwdWJkFExVUZkY2RVdTRjRGs/edit?usp=sharing =0A=0AThanks,=0AAllan=0AMKIII Classic=0AN308JB=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topi c online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=409027#40 =========================0A ====================== ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:56:51 AM PST US From: "Pat Ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: New Firefly Video it is in man's nature to regulate themselves and especially the ones that insist on having fun.>> Hi Larry, there is certainly some truth in that. In the UK we have specified microlights as being below a certain all up weight,and they must have a stall speed less than a set figure. The stall speed must also interact with the wing area to stop the development of high speed `lead sleds`. This was the reason that the Extra was only approved with vortex generators as without them the required low stall speed was not attainable. Consequently we now have machines in the microlight category which cruise happily with 2 up at over 100 mph on 11 litres an hour with several hours range. Admittedly we are rather more regulated than you but at least we do not have your problems with build/design quality.Particularly in the second hand market. Any plane flying here will have had the build quality checked during construction and the design will have been tested and approved for engineering/aerodynamic integrity. We have recently introduced another category of very, very light weight and very relaxed rules. This is producing one or two interesting designs. Although we moan at the restrictions and Europe keep interfering when we look at other countries restrictions we are lucky. I don`t think that Switzerland for instance allow any microlights at all unless they have changes recently. Cheers Pat ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:42:54 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: New Firefly Video From: "t41pilot" Hello Bill. Thanks for the kudos on my video. It was my first attempt at using the Windows Movie Maker software that came free on my ancient yet still serviceable Computer. I believe you are right on part 103. It is the way I'm interpreting it anyway. My indicated airspeed is typically between 60 and 65 mph so I'm still at the limit anyway. The reason probably is that I'm only 150 pounds with my clothes on. I think I read somewhere that the never exceed speed for the firefly was 80 mph so a ground speed of 70 is fine with me. Don't really need to go much faster than that anyway. It's quick enough to get me to the pancake breakfasts in the area. Flew with a Super Cub a month ago on the way to one. He had to dial in some flap to stay back with me but was a trooper and stayed with me about 15 minutes. It was fun flying formation with somebody else. Wish I had somebody to fly with more often. -------- Gregg Kaat 2011 Firefly Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=409045#409045 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:45:58 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Trip to the beach From: "Larlaeb" This was on the Texas Gulf coast just a few miles southwest of Freeport. Wind was from the north but the beach (obviously) slants down toward the water to the south, made the landing interesting. The camera changed files just before landing which made that part pretty choppy. It was fun though. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=409047#409047 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:03:23 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Trip to the beach Just a quick run down to the coast this morning and landing on the beach. Pretty good cross wind but at least the beach was relatively clear. https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxdXwdWJkFExVUZkY2RVdTRjRGs/ edit?usp=sharing Thanks, Allan Allan/Kolbers: Your video brought back some very good memories of the Texas coast. Four of us flew from Beaumont, down the beach low level, to the Rio Grande River. On the way we RON'd in the FBO at Mustang Beach Airport. We were lucky that the wind was off the water, although very strong, not a ripple in the air. We turned right at the Rio Grande, flying it until we reached Del Rio, where we camped out on the field. Next morning we flew north up the Rio Grande to the Pecos River, then up the Pecos to the Interstate, turned east to Houston. John Williamson, Kolbra, and Ken Korenek, Titan, flew to Arlington, TX. Gary Haley, MKIIIC, and I, MKIIIC, Flew to Gary's airstrip west of Houston. Next day I flew back to Gantt International Airport, Titus, Alabama. BTW that flight was conducted the first of December 2005. Was going to attach some photos of the flight, but unfortunately do not have any on this lap top. ;-( john h mkIII Rock House, Oregon ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:07:27 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Trip to the beach From: "Larlaeb" Thanks John. I'd certainly be interested in seeing those if you come across them at some point. Sounds like it was a very interesting and enjoyable trip. 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