---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 09/26/13: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:52 AM - Re: SCDI ignition question (Richard Girard) 2. 07:54 AM - Re: SCDI ignition question (Richard Girard) 3. 09:45 AM - Re: SCDI ignition question (WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com) 4. 12:01 PM - Re: SCDI ignition question (John Hauck) 5. 07:03 PM - Re: Training Firestar (funnyb0nz) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:52:27 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: SCDI ignition question From: Richard Girard Dave, One last thing about the threaded fittings on coils and caps. Don't just unscrew the old cap and screw on the new one. You need to cut off the old threaded section of the cable first, then screw on the new cap. Same with the end that screws into the coil. Doing this creates a firm connection and prevent internal arcing that degrade ignition energy and performance. At least that's the line in Rotax classes. Rick Girard On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 8:33 PM, David Kulp wrote: > > Thanks, George, John and Herb, > > Done! When I read the caution about removing the cable from the CDI, I > decided to undo the "package" of cables, etc. that Don made, which I > wouldn't have had to do if I removed the cables from the CDI, remove the > cap and replace the boot on the CDI, which rotted away, put on a new cap > and re-do the cables, etc. I now have a spare boot and cap in case the > other boot rots. The whole re-installation of the 447 turned out very > nice. Hope it does as well in the air as it looks good on the ground! > > BTW, when I was online getting the torque values for the IVO, I came > across the story of Ivo and his escape from behind the Iron Curtain. Very > interesting! If you never read it Google it, it's a good read. > > Regards, > > > Dave Kulp > Bethlehem, PA > FireFly 11DMK > > Do not archive > > > On 9/25/2013 11:19 AM, herb wrote: > >> >> Look inside the cable end of the new cap....you will notice that they >> unscrew...Should be the same for the Ignition module end...Herb >> >> On 09/25/2013 09:45 AM, David Kulp wrote: >> >>> >>> Good morning all, >>> >>> I have new plug caps and the boots for my 447 Rotax. I gently pulled on >>> the cable to remove it from the SCDI component but it didn't easily unplug, >>> so rather than damage a $500 item I'm throwing the question out to those >>> who have performed this procedure. Would someone who knows please >>> instruction me on how to both remove the caps from the cables and the >>> cables from the SCDI? I'd appreciate it very much. >>> >>> Thanks in advance, >>> >>> Dave Kulp >>> Bethlehem, PA >>> FireFly 11DMK >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:54:55 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: SCDI ignition question From: Richard Girard I should have added that you only need to cut off about 1/4" (~6mm). Just enough so that the screw fitting is going into new wire. Rick On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Richard Girard wrote: > Dave, One last thing about the threaded fittings on coils and caps. Don't > just unscrew the old cap and screw on the new one. You need to cut off the > old threaded section of the cable first, then screw on the new cap. Same > with the end that screws into the coil. Doing this creates a firm > connection and prevent internal arcing that degrade ignition energy and > performance. At least that's the line in Rotax classes. > > Rick Girard > > > On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 8:33 PM, David Kulp wrote: > >> >> Thanks, George, John and Herb, >> >> Done! When I read the caution about removing the cable from the CDI, I >> decided to undo the "package" of cables, etc. that Don made, which I >> wouldn't have had to do if I removed the cables from the CDI, remove the >> cap and replace the boot on the CDI, which rotted away, put on a new cap >> and re-do the cables, etc. I now have a spare boot and cap in case the >> other boot rots. The whole re-installation of the 447 turned out very >> nice. Hope it does as well in the air as it looks good on the ground! >> >> BTW, when I was online getting the torque values for the IVO, I came >> across the story of Ivo and his escape from behind the Iron Curtain. Very >> interesting! If you never read it Google it, it's a good read. >> >> Regards, >> >> >> Dave Kulp >> Bethlehem, PA >> FireFly 11DMK >> >> Do not archive >> >> >> On 9/25/2013 11:19 AM, herb wrote: >> >>> >>> Look inside the cable end of the new cap....you will notice that they >>> unscrew...Should be the same for the Ignition module end...Herb >>> >>> On 09/25/2013 09:45 AM, David Kulp wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Good morning all, >>>> >>>> I have new plug caps and the boots for my 447 Rotax. I gently pulled >>>> on the cable to remove it from the SCDI component but it didn't easily >>>> unplug, so rather than damage a $500 item I'm throwing the question out to >>>> those who have performed this procedure. Would someone who knows please >>>> instruction me on how to both remove the caps from the cables and the >>>> cables from the SCDI? I'd appreciate it very much. >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance, >>>> >>>> Dave Kulp >>>> Bethlehem, PA >>>> FireFly 11DMK >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Zulu Delta > Mk IIIC > Thanks, Homer GBYM > > It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. > - Groucho Marx > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:45:37 AM PST US From: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: SCDI ignition question Rick, Glad that you added that bit of info. I thought maybe cutting off the ignition wire might make it too short. If you're replacing the spark plug caps, I guess it might be a good time to replace the wires with new ones anyway. Bill Varnes Original Kolb FireStar Audubon NJ Do Not Archive In a message dated 9/26/2013 10:55:25 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, aslsa.rng@gmail.com writes: I should have added that you only need to cut off about 1/4" (~6mm). Just enough so that the screw fitting is going into new wire. Rick ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:01:46 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: SCDI ignition question Glad that you added that bit of info. I thought maybe cutting off the ignition wire might make it too short. If you're replacing the spark plug caps, I guess it might be a good time to replace the wires with new ones anyway. Bill Varnes Bill V/Kolbers: Copper core wire should last a very long time. Can check with an OHM Meter to see if you are getting resistance in the wire. Disconnect from the cap and coil before checking. john h mkIII Rock House, Burns Junction, OR ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:03:23 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Training Firestar From: "funnyb0nz" Thanks for the advice guys. The training in champ, we are pretty much bring the throttle all the way down before landing. In ppc and gyro usually use a little bit of power to land unless doing engine out scenarios.so good to know with the Kolb that I will need to have a little power before landing. Looks like a few more lessons I will have the endorsement. They are teaching me slips which is cool but man feels like your going to crash. Guess I gotta get used to it, I gotta say anyone looking for training in Ohio or northern Kentucky go to red Stewart in Waynesville oh. Great people and you cant beat their rates. 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