---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 10/03/13: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:52 AM - Re: Take two- Possible Firestar accident (Jack) 2. 07:35 AM - Re: 2 SI outta business? (Dennis Rowe) 3. 07:38 AM - Re: 2 SI outta business? (herb) 4. 08:11 AM - Victim's Name- Firestar accident (Beauford) 5. 09:22 AM - Re: 2 SI outta business? (Dennis Rowe) 6. 09:30 AM - Re: Victim's Name- Firestar accident (Mike Welch) 7. 05:21 PM - Home at Last! (TheWanderingWench) 8. 05:23 PM - Home at Last! (TheWanderingWench) 9. 07:53 PM - Re: Home at Last! (Larry Cottrell) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:52:36 AM PST US From: Jack Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Take two- Possible Firestar accident On 10/2/2013 12:45 PM, Beauford wrote: > > Brother Jack: > > On second thought, after looking at it again, I do fear it to be a > Firestar after all. It appears that on impact the leading edge > collapsed back to the main spar...where the single lift strut remains > attached. The size of the that spar appears thick, consistent with > the 5 inch tube on the Kolb. > > Might have a name from Kansas City later today. > > Beauford > > Do Not Archive > > If you forward this e-mail, please remove my name beforesending it... > I promise to do the same for you... > > Thanks... > > *From:*owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Beauford > Beauford, I must say I think your right. Burnt wing may show the main spar. Jack Akron OH. FSII ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:35:06 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 2 SI outta business? From: Dennis Rowe Sure does, my 690 has been pretty good, other than the gearbox, sigh Dennis "Skid" Rowe Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA > On Oct 2, 2013, at 8:28 PM, "Ron @ KFHU" wrote: > > > That sucks! > > > ================ > ---- Dennis Rowe wrote: > > ============ > > > Yep, > The last I talked to Roger Zerkle he said the place was pad locked. > Dennis "Skid" Rowe > Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA > > > >> On Oct 2, 2013, at 9:40 AM, "Ron @ KFHU" wrote: >> >> >> Anyone knows what happened to 2SI, they'r site is down. > > > > > > > -- > Ron @ KFHU > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:38:30 AM PST US From: herb Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 2 SI outta business? Last time I looked at their web site; they were not selling to the public...some years back...Herb On 10/03/2013 09:34 AM, Dennis Rowe wrote: > > Sure does, my 690 has been pretty good, other than the gearbox, sigh > > Dennis "Skid" Rowe > Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA > > >> On Oct 2, 2013, at 8:28 PM, "Ron @ KFHU" wrote: >> >> >> That sucks! >> >> >> ================ >> ---- Dennis Rowe wrote: >> >> ============ >> >> >> Yep, >> The last I talked to Roger Zerkle he said the place was pad locked. >> Dennis "Skid" Rowe >> Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA >> >> >> >>> On Oct 2, 2013, at 9:40 AM, "Ron @ KFHU" wrote: >>> >>> >>> Anyone knows what happened to 2SI, they'r site is down. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Ron @ KFHU >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:11:20 AM PST US From: "Beauford " Subject: Kolb-List: Victim's Name- Firestar accident He is reported to be Mr. Richard Scalet, 56, of Greenwood, Kansas. There is no report, as yet, regarding the investigation into the cause. Beauford FF-076 Do not Archive If you forward this e-mail, please remove my name before sending it... I promise to do the same for you... Thanks... From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 8:52 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Take two- Possible Firestar accident On 10/2/2013 12:45 PM, Beauford wrote: Brother Jack: On second thought, after looking at it again, I do fear it to be a Firestar after all. It appears that on impact the leading edge collapsed back to the main spar.where the single lift strut remains attached. The size of the that spar appears thick, consistent with the 5 inch tube on the Kolb. Might have a name from Kansas City later today. Beauford Do Not Archive If you forward this e-mail, please remove my name before sending it... I promise to do the same for you... Thanks... From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Beauford Beauford, I must say I think your right. Burnt wing may show the main spar. Jack Akron OH. FSII ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:22:42 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 2 SI outta business? From: Dennis Rowe Parts were and are still available through back channels, just disappointed that manufacturer of parts is done. Just a matter of time till you can't get parts. Dennis "Skid" Rowe Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA > On Oct 3, 2013, at 10:38 AM, herb wrote: > > > Last time I looked at their web site; they were not selling to the public...some years back...Herb > > >> On 10/03/2013 09:34 AM, Dennis Rowe wrote: >> >> Sure does, my 690 has been pretty good, other than the gearbox, sigh >> >> Dennis "Skid" Rowe >> Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA >> >> >> >>> On Oct 2, 2013, at 8:28 PM, "Ron @ KFHU" wrote: >>> >>> >>> That sucks! >>> >>> >>> ================ >>> ---- Dennis Rowe wrote: >>> >>> ============ >>> >>> >>> Yep, >>> The last I talked to Roger Zerkle he said the place was pad locked. >>> Dennis "Skid" Rowe >>> Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Oct 2, 2013, at 9:40 AM, "Ron @ KFHU" wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Anyone knows what happened to 2SI, they'r site is down. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ron @ KFHU >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:30:56 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Victim's Name- Firestar accident From: Mike Welch Beauford, The report I read said the crash wouldn't be investigated by the FAA since it was an "ultralight". It was going to be handled by the local sherif's office (or police dept), so maybe an actual official cause" may never be known. Supposedly, he was a VERY experienced pilot, including ultralights, IIRC. Mike Welch ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:21:19 PM PST US From: TheWanderingWench Subject: Kolb-List: Home at Last! Hi folks,=0A=0AToday was the first day without rain, rain, and more rain - since last Friday, when we had to leave our planes at Hood River. Even thou gh I had covered my engine really carefully, because of the high winds and torrential rain, I called the Hood River Airport three different times aski ng that they check to make sure that the cover (a Hefty garbage bag) was st ill intact. They were tolerant about my anxiety and assured me that it was fine. And it was!- =0A=0AToday started out really foggy, but the forecast was for sunshine by 2:00 p.m. Penelope drove me and Bob up to Hood River a nd waited patiently for us to take off. Both Bob and I did really careful p reflight inspections and everything looked really good. =0A=0A=0AIt wasn't until I started suiting up that I realized that I didn't have my helmet! I panicked and went through Penelope's car with a fine tooth comb - but I mus t have left it in my own car , at Sandy River Airport. Penelope, bless her heart, asked "Do you want to go get it?" and all I could think about was th at meant a 90 minute drive back to SRA, and then another 90 minutes back to Hood River. I told myself that I know plenty of ultralight/LSA pilots who never wear a helmet, and that it was only a 45-50 minute flight home. But i t really rattled me, since I have NEVER flown without a helmet!- And down the Columbia Gorge, no less! And - no helmet, no access to my radio. I dec ided to take the risk, and Bob agreed to announce for both of us as we depa rted.=0A=0AOf course, I hadn't taken into consideration how LOUD the engine is without the insulation provided by the helmet. Or how cold my ears coul d get. But the flight home was great for the first 40 minutes. Blue skies, high cumulus clouds, steady headwind but no turbulence. The forested mounta ins with the river between are absolutely gorgeous. I was still heading wes t down the Gorge, about 15 miles from Sandy River when the clouds lowered a nd got dark...dark...dark. But it looked like I'd be able to get underneath them. I descended from 2500' to 2000' - then down to 1700'. (I usually lik e to be @ 3500-4000' flying the Gorge.) I finally settled on 1500' and didn 't need to go any lower - until I turned south, out of the Gorge. I couldn' t fly down low and just follow the Sandy River as it was full of fog, so I had to fly over fields and forest. The closer I got to Sandy, the lower the ceiling and the less visibility. By the time Sandy River Airport was in si ght I was at 1100' (Sandy River Airport's elevation is 700',) and I had only t he legally required 3 miles visibility.-- I was SO RELIEVED when I ente red the pattern and turned to final.=0A=0AMy ears rang for at least ten min utes after I turned off the engine - but my baby is home where it belongs! =0A=0AArty=0A-=0Awww.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/uladventure2009.htm=0A=0A"Lif e's a daring adventure or nothing"=0AHelen Keller=0A=0A=0A"I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death." ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:23:19 PM PST US From: TheWanderingWench Subject: Kolb-List: Home at Last! =0A=0AHi folks,=0A=0AToday was the first day without rain, rain, and more r ain - since last =0AFriday, when we had to leave our planes at Hood River. Even though I had =0Acovered my engine really carefully, because of the hig h winds and =0Atorrential rain, I called the Hood River Airport three diffe rent times =0Aasking that they check to make sure that the cover (a Hefty g arbage bag) was still intact. They were tolerant about my =0Aanxiety and as sured me that it was fine. And it was!- =0A=0AToday started out really fo ggy, but the forecast was for sunshine by 2:00 =0Ap.m. Penelope drove me an d Bob up to Hood River and waited patiently for us to take off. Both Bob an d I did really careful preflight inspections and everything looked really g ood. =0A=0A=0AIt wasn't until I started suiting up that I realized that I d idn't have my helmet! I panicked and went through Penelope's car with a fin e tooth =0Acomb - but I must have left it in my own car , at Sandy River Ai rport. =0APenelope, bless her heart, asked "Do you want to go get it?" and all I =0Acould think about was that meant a 90 minute drive back to SRA, an d then another 90 minutes back to Hood River. I told myself that I know ple nty of ultralight/LSA pilots who never wear a helmet, and that it was only a 45-50 minute flight home. But it really rattled me, since I have NEVER fl own without a =0Ahelmet!- And down the Columbia Gorge, no less! And - no helmet, no =0Aaccess to my radio. I decided to take the risk, and Bob agree d to =0Aannounce for both of us as we departed.=0A=0AOf course, I hadn't ta ken into consideration how LOUD the engine is =0Awithout the insulation pro vided by the helmet. Or how cold my ears could get. But the flight home was great for the first 40 minutes. Blue skies, high cumulus clouds, steady he adwind but no turbulence. The forested mountains with the river =0Abetween are absolutely gorgeous. I was still heading west down the =0AGorge, about 15 miles from Sandy River when the clouds lowered and got =0Adark...dark... dark. But it looked like I'd be able to get underneath =0Athem. I descended from 2500' to 2000' - then down to 1700'. (I usually =0Alike to be @ 3500- 4000' flying the Gorge.) I finally settled on 1500' =0Aand didn't need to g o any lower - until I turned south, out of the =0AGorge. I couldn't fly dow n low and just follow the Sandy River as it was full of fog, so I had to fl y over fields and forest. The closer I got =0Ato Sandy, the lower the ceili ng and the less visibility. By the time =0ASandy River Airport was in sight I was at 1100' (Sandy River Airport's elevation is 700',) and I had only t he legally required 3 miles visibility.-- I was SO RELIEVED when I ente red the pattern and turned to final.=0A=0AMy ears rang for at least ten min utes after I turned off the engine - but my baby is home where it belongs! =0A=0AArty=0A-=0Awww.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/uladventure2009.htm=0A=0A=0A" Life's a daring adventure or nothing"=0AHelen Keller=0A=0A=0A"I refuse to t ip toe through life just to arrive safely at death." ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:53:21 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Home at Last! From: Larry Cottrell Glad that you finally made it home. The weather has been screwy the entire year. Larry On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 6:21 PM, TheWanderingWench < thewanderingwench@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi folks, > > Today was the first day without rain, rain, and more rain - since last > Friday, when we had to leave our planes at Hood River. Even though I had > covered my engine really carefully, because of the high winds and > torrential rain, I called the Hood River Airport three different times > asking that they check to make sure that the cover (a Hefty garbage bag) > was still intact. They were tolerant about my anxiety and assured me that > it was fine. And it was! > > Today started out really foggy, but the forecast was for sunshine by 2:00 > p.m. Penelope drove me and Bob up to Hood River and waited patiently for us > to take off. Both Bob and I did really careful preflight inspections and > everything looked really good. > > It wasn't until I started suiting up that I realized that I didn't have my > helmet! I panicked and went through Penelope's car with a fine tooth comb - > but I must have left it in my own car , at Sandy River Airport. Penelope, > bless her heart, asked "Do you want to go get it?" and all I could think > about was that meant a 90 minute drive back to SRA, and then another 90 > minutes back to Hood River. I told myself that I know plenty of > ultralight/LSA pilots who never wear a helmet, and that it was only a 45-50 > minute flight home. But it really rattled me, since I have NEVER flown > without a helmet! And down the Columbia Gorge, no less! And - no helmet, > no access to my radio. I decided to take the risk, and Bob agreed to > announce for both of us as we departed. > > Of course, I hadn't taken into consideration how LOUD the engine is > without the insulation provided by the helmet. Or how cold my ears could > get. But the flight home was great for the first 40 minutes. Blue skies, > high cumulus clouds, steady headwind but no turbulence. The forested > mountains with the river between are absolutely gorgeous. I was still > heading west down the Gorge, about 15 miles from Sandy River when the > clouds lowered and got dark...dark...dark. But it looked like I'd be able > to get underneath them. I descended from 2500' to 2000' - then down to > 1700'. (I usually like to be @ 3500-4000' flying the Gorge.) I finally > settled on 1500' and didn't need to go any lower - until I turned south, > out of the Gorge. I couldn't fly down low and just follow the Sandy River > as it was full of fog, so I had to fly over fields and forest. The closer I > got to Sandy, the lower the ceiling and the less visibility. By the time > Sandy River Airport was in sight I was at 1100' (Sandy River Airport's > elevation is 700',) and I had only the legally required 3 miles > visibility. I was SO RELIEVED when I entered the pattern and turned to > final. > > My ears rang for at least ten minutes after I turned off the engine - but > my baby is home where it belongs! > > Arty > > www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/uladventure2009.htm > > "Life's a daring adventure or nothing" > Helen Keller > > > "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death." > > * > > * > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.