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Mon 11/18/13


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     0. 12:30 AM - Fund Raiser Behind By 25% - Please Contribute Today! (Matt Dralle)
     1. 03:16 AM - Re: pictures (Pat Ladd)
     2. 03:26 AM - Re: pictures (Pat Ladd)
     3. 05:23 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 11/17/13 (Lee)
     4. 05:38 AM - Re: pictures (John Codd)
     5. 02:37 PM - Re: pictures (kinne russ)
     6. 04:09 PM - Re: pictures (Larry Cottrell)
     7. 05:12 PM - Re: pictures (Charlie England)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:30:24 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Fund Raiser Behind By 25% - Please Contribute Today!
    Dear Listers, The percentage of members making a Contribution to support the Lists this year is currently behind last year by at this time by roughly 25%. We got off to a slow start this year with the network DNS issues on the kickoff weekend, so please take this opportunity to show your support for the Matronics Lists and Forums! Please remember that it is *solely* your direct Contributions that keep these Lists and Forums up and running and most importantly - AD FREE! If the members don't want to support the Lists directly, then I might have to add advertisements to offset the costs of running the Lists. But I don't want to have to do that. I really like the non-commercial atmosphere here and I think that a lot of the members appreciate that too. Please take a moment to make a Contribution today in support of the continued ad-free operation of all these Lists: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA I want to send out a word of appreciation to all of the members that have already made their generous Contribution to support the Lists! Thank you! Matt Dralle Email List and Forums Administrator


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    Time: 03:16:02 AM PST US
    From: "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: pictures
    do the folks on your side of the pond commonly say three times or thrice?>> Hi, I was waiting for that. No, thrice has fallen out of use many years ago but I have never said `two times` in my life and certainly no one of my generation, or the following one, has done so.Always `twice`. When we learned our tables it was `Twice two are four` etc. (See Danny Kaye `Inchworm) `Two times` I have noticed is creeping into use now though. Just one more thing which raises my ire these days I know that language changes but, like most things it is changing too quickly for my taste. For instance when I asked my grand daughter (aged 16 ) if she would like to come to the theatre with me she answered. "No thanks, It doesn`t tickle my cheeky" What the hell does that mean? Cheers Pat


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    Time: 03:26:29 AM PST US
    From: "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: pictures
    Doesn't your English-to-American translation dictionary tell you that?>> Hi Russ, The trouble is that your language is called `English` when it patently is not. If it was called `American` then we could treat it like any other language spoken by foreigners. I don`t know if you are aware of Flanders and Swann. A couple who wrote and performed there own stuff. Just piano and two voices. They wrote a piece called `A song of patriotic prejudice` with a chorus of The English the English The English are best I wouldn`t give tuppence for all of the rest The last stanza was It is not that they`re wicked or naturally bad Its just knowing they`re `foreign` that makes them so mad They probably wouldn`t be allowed to sing it now in case it upset someone's tender feelings. Cheers Pat


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    Time: 05:23:04 AM PST US
    From: "Lee" <lmorgan100@charter.net>
    Subject: RE: Kolb-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 11/17/13
    ok ok, I didn't think they went thru, when I got the list, they didn't show. Lee.. -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kolb-List Digest Server Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 3:02 AM Subject: Kolb-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 11/17/13 * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete Kolb-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Kolb-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 13-11-17&Archive=Kolb Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 2013-11-17&Archive=Kolb =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 11/17/13: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:07 AM - Re: pictures (Pat Ladd) 2. 03:08 AM - Re: pictures (Pat Ladd) 3. 07:25 AM - Re: pictures (kinne russ) 4. 07:39 AM - Re: pictures (undoctor) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:07:44 AM PST US From: "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: pictures Lovely picture John. 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    Time: 05:38:38 AM PST US
    From: "John Codd" <j.codd@btopenworld.com>
    Subject: Re: pictures
    Hi Pat, I thought that you would be interested to know that your old Kolb Xtra which was deregistered by the chap that bought it from you and sold the engine, has now been bought by one of our club members and is in the process of having a reconditioned Jabiru 2200 fitted to it, it will be re-registered, permitted and flying again in a month or two, excellent news that as it was such a nice looking aeroplane, Cheers, John Codd, North Lincs in UK, Kolb Mk3 Xtra with Jabiru 2200, From: Pat Ladd Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 11:26 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: pictures Doesn't your English-to-American translation dictionary tell you that?>> Hi Russ, The trouble is that your language is called `English` when it patently is not. If it was called `American` then we could treat it like any other language spoken by foreigners. I don`t know if you are aware of Flanders and Swann. A couple who wrote and performed there own stuff. Just piano and two voices. They wrote a piece called `A song of patriotic prejudice` with a chorus of The English the English The English are best I wouldn`t give tuppence for all of the rest The last stanza was It is not that they`re wicked or naturally bad Its just knowing they`re `foreign` that makes them so mad They probably wouldn`t be allowed to sing it now in case it upset someone's tender feelings. Cheers Pat No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 11/18/13


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    Time: 02:37:11 PM PST US
    From: kinne russ <russk50@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: pictures
    I'm nit-picking, but have been an editor & rewriter for years & this got my attention -- you say > performed there own stuff. and it should be 'their' But I still like you! Russ On Nov 18, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Pat Ladd wrote: > Doesn't your English-to-American translation dictionary tell you that?>> > > Hi Russ, > > The trouble is that your language is called `English` when it patently is not. > > If it was called `American` then we could treat it like any other language spoken by foreigners. > > I don`t know if you are aware of Flanders and Swann. A couple who wrote and performed there own stuff. Just piano and two voices. > They wrote a piece called `A song of patriotic prejudice` with a chorus of > The English the English The English are best > I wouldn`t give tuppence for all of the rest > > The last stanza was > > It is not that they`re wicked or naturally bad > Its just knowing they`re `foreign` that makes them so mad > > They probably wouldn`t be allowed to sing it now in case it upset someone's tender feelings. > > Cheers > > Pat > >


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    Time: 04:09:48 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: pictures
    From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
    For instance when I asked my grand daughter (aged 16 ) if she would like to come to the theatre with me she answered. "No thanks, It doesn`t tickle my cheeky" So, I am curious did you insult her as well? Larry On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:15 AM, Pat Ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> wrote: > do the folks on your side of the pond commonly say three times or > thrice?>> > > Hi, > I was waiting for that. > > No, thrice has fallen out of use many years ago but I have never said `two > times` in my life and certainly no one of my generation, or the following > one, has done so.Always `twice`. When we learned our tables it was `Twice > two are four` etc. (See Danny Kaye `Inchworm) > `Two times` I have noticed is creeping into use now though. Just one more > thing which raises my ire these days > > I know that language changes but, like most things it is changing too > quickly for my taste. > > For instance when I asked my grand daughter (aged 16 ) if she would like > to come to the theatre with me she answered. "No thanks, It doesn`t tickle > my cheeky" > > What the hell does that mean? > > Cheers > > Pat > > * > > * > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.*


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    Time: 05:12:35 PM PST US
    From: Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: pictures
    On 11/18/2013 5:15 AM, Pat Ladd wrote: > do the folks on your side of the pond commonly say three times or > thrice?>> > Hi, > I was waiting for that. > No, thrice has fallen out of use many years ago but I have never said > `two times` in my life and certainly no one of my generation, or the > following one, has done so.Always `twice`. When we learned our tables > it was `Twice two are four` etc. (See Danny Kaye `Inchworm) > `Two times` I have noticed is creeping into use now though. Just one > more thing which raises my ire these days > I know that language changes but, like most things it is changing too > quickly for my taste. > For instance when I asked my grand daughter (aged 16 ) if she would > like to come to the theatre with me she answered. "No thanks, It > doesn`t tickle my cheeky" > What the hell does that mean? > Cheers > Pat I wouldn't call it 'creeping'. When I learned multiplication tables in the American South early in the Cold War (late 1950's), it was always '2 times x equals y'; never heard it any other way. It boils down to cultural differences. If you look at the setup routines for computer software & operating systems, many will actually offer options for 'American English' and British English'. I must say, though, that the American Southern way is actually more consistent. How would you translate '13 times 7'? Charlie




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