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1. 05:56 AM - Re: New Gear Legs (Richard Pike)
2. 06:35 AM - Kolb-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 11/26/13 (Bob Green)
3. 06:41 AM - Re: Re: New Gear Legs (John Hauck)
4. 06:52 AM - Re: Re: New Gear Legs (David Kulp)
5. 07:55 AM - Re: Re: New Gear Legs, (b young)
6. 09:44 AM - new gear legs (b young)
7. 03:07 PM - Introducing myself--help needed. (lownslow)
8. 03:37 PM - Re: Introducing myself--help needed. (Dennis Rowe)
9. 05:47 PM - Kolb Mk3 POH/checklist (Dennis Rowe)
10. 06:27 PM - Re: Kolb Mk3 POH/checklist (lownslow)
11. 07:37 PM - Re: Introducing myself--help needed. (Charlie England)
12. 09:22 PM - Re: Introducing myself--help needed. (lownslow)
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Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Coming Soon! |
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Subject: | Re: New Gear Legs |
The pictures make perfect sense, thanks for that. How did you bend the gear legs
a little at a time until you got the desired toe in? I have a tubing bender
- or did you slip a pipe over the axles and armstrong it?
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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Subject: | Kolb-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 11/26/13 |
Boyd, How did you bend the legs/axles to get the result you wanted?
Bob
MKIIIX
N830PB
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Subject: | Re: New Gear Legs |
The pictures make perfect sense, thanks for that. How did you bend the gear
legs a little at a time until you got the desired toe in? I have a tubing
bender - or did you slip a pipe over the axles and armstrong it?
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Richard Pike
I've had good luck bending with a long section of water pipe slipped over
the axle. Of course you have to support the main gear where you want to
make the correction.
Happy Thanksgiving to all the Kolbers out there. You all are a special
family of special builders and flyers.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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Subject: | Re: New Gear Legs |
Happy Thanksgiving to you, too, John, and to all the other Kolb drivers
and lurkers on the list. If we look around to other parts of the world,
it's clear that we really do have a lot to be thankful for. God has
been good to us.
Dave Kulp
Bethlehem, PA
FireFly 11DMK
Do Not Archive
On 11/27/2013 9:41 AM, John Hauck wrote:
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> The pictures make perfect sense, thanks for that. How did you bend the gear
> legs a little at a time until you got the desired toe in? I have a tubing
> bender - or did you slip a pipe over the axles and armstrong it?
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
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> I've had good luck bending with a long section of water pipe slipped over
> the axle. Of course you have to support the main gear where you want to
> make the correction.
>
> Happy Thanksgiving to all the Kolbers out there. You all are a special
> family of special builders and flyers.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
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Subject: | Re: New Gear Legs, |
Richard and others
my son bought a pipe / tube bender so he could fabricate roll cages for his
and friends jeeps he has fabricated bunk beds for the kids, it is a hea
vy duty bender,,, it is floor mounted with 4, 1/2 inch bolts into concr
ete. it has replaceable dies that fit in the center and on the moveable a
rm that fit the diameter of the material you are bending. there is also a
plate that is marked in degrees that can be rotated to any position, it ha
s a little friction plate so it stays put while you are bending. and it h
as a fixed pointer that hovers over the degree plate. after placing t
he gear in the bender at the position needed to correct the problems. I ad
just the degree plate to zero under the pointer, then proceed to bend. be
cause it is spring steel. you have to try in small increments then relax
and see if the steel has bent or only sprung then returned to normal. it
seems that I had to take the gear to 10 to 12 degrees past where I wanted
it to be in order to get the gear to bend, anything less than that and it w
ould spring back to the starting point. 1/4 to 1/2 would have been conside
red a very large bend.... most of the bends I did was under a quarter of a
deg. while trying, I would pull the bender to increasing number of d
egrees past where I needed it to be. and then relax in between. until it
did not return all the way to zero on the pointer and plate. the increasin
g number would increase by very small amounts, once I kind of figured out
how much past I needed to go... it was quicker on subsequent bends as I k
new where permanent change to the gear would start to happen... so I coul
d sneak up on the amount of movement needed quicker in order to get the ben
d I wanted. finally when I got to the end and I figured I needed 1/10t
h of 1 deg it was tricky, that is not a lot of bend,,, and if you go to
far, you have to bend it back..... every time I would get noticeable chan
ge in the gear, I would re install and measure again,,, when I was close
I would then take it for a hi speed taxi or short flight to see how it turn
ed out. the gear comes out of the gear socket down to a bend just where th
e brake mounts, and the wheel fits on.... I did all the bends in the 6 in
ches or so just up from the factory bend. where the steel was small in dia
meter in comparison to the area just outside of the gear socket.
in my humble opinion... the factory bend, at least in my gear was too much
, when I had the plane on stands and was installing the gear, the camber a
ngle of the wheels looked real good. when I put the weight of the cage on
the gear it still looked good. but when I mounted the 912, the gear starte
d looking squatty. and when me and a passenger got in,,, the gear looked a
s if I had landed too hard and bent the gear.
when I got finished, I could take off and land without the oscillations
fore and aft that would give a jackhammer ride. and I could inflate the t
ires without the plane wanting to veer all over the runway.
all the measurements were made with the wheels on a grease plate, I was t
oo cheap to buy aluminum plates to put grease in between.... so I used som
e pieces of floor tile. if I rolled the wheel on the floor tile... someti
mes it would break off the edges of the tile... so I had to jack up the wh
eel and place the floor tile under the wheel. it was amazing how much mov
ement there is in the gear with the wheel on the grease plate. don
=99t try the adjustments with the wheel on the floor, there is too much f
riction and it would be extremely hard if not impossible to get where you w
ant to be.
if I was going to install gear again.... I would use the strait edge metho
d with a carpenter square with both wheels on grease plates. to keep the g
ear from going too far into the gear sockets, I would put in a piece of woo
d dowel in the gear socket followed by the gear. I would do all this with
the engine mounted, and a hundred pound of wheat in both seats.
I am going to my sons for thanks giving, and could take pictures of his pi
pe bender if you would like.
boyd young
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From: Richard Pike
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 6:56 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: New Gear Legs
The pictures make perfect sense, thanks for that. How did you bend the gea
r legs a little at a time until you got the desired toe in? I have a tubing
bender - or did you slip a pipe over the axles and armstrong it?
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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Richard and others
I just visited Google and did a search on pipe benders, my son=99s
pipe bender looks very similar to this one, but his has two of the saw
tooth ratchet arms, one arm is fixed and the other attaches to the actuati
ng arm. they are set up so with one pull of the actuating arm you only move
things one tooth,, but with the second arm... you can hold tension on the
piece while you moved the primary arm to a new notch , then pull again.
as I remember he told me that it would bend up to 1 1/2 inch solid steel r
od. I cant see the fixed pointer in this photo. but it lines up just above
the bottom plate marked off in degrees.
boyd
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Subject: | Introducing myself--help needed. |
Hi friends, I am the recent new owner of a Mk IIIC project that I am in the process
of completing, so I want to introduce myself to this list and say hi! I
am in Colorado Springs and am installing a Rotax Rick 670 due to the higher field
elevations out here. (I was very interested in the post I just read on the
670, posted earlier this month). Being a newbie, I feel I have lot's to learn,
and remain very "teachable". I hope to have the project flying within the
next 3 to 6 months.
22 years of Air Force flying, laid it to rest for a number of years and now have
the itch again! I'm excited about the aircraft and about the community that
I find here. Seems everyone is really enjoying the flying and the commeraderie.
How many of you are flying Kolbs in the mountains--just curious what advice you
may have.
Has anyone put together a POH of sorts? I am unaware of anything available through
Kolb, but maybe I'm wrong about that? (I'm guessing most people put something
together as a result of their Phase I test period but it would be nice to
have a starting point.)
The critical question: I have most photos from the previous owner builder's log
but he was unable to locate pictures of the early construction of the cage and
tail boom. I'm wondering if it might be possible to replace those with some
generic pictures to complete my builder's log. My aircraft has a white painted
cage structure. I would be very grateful.
thanks so much
Mike
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Subject: | Re: Introducing myself--help needed. |
Welcome aboard Mike,
Will be interested in following your progress on your Mk 3. Also look forward to
learning more about your engine installation.
You will want to get some dual in a Mk-3 or a Kolbra to adjust yourself to the
low inertia high drag world we Kolbers operate in. Our birds may be slow, but
things happen fast in them.
Enjoy your project, and enjoy the list. If you check the archives we had a thread
recently on the POH, I believe I posted pics of the front and back of the checklist
sheet I made for my bird. Also got some solid suggestions for adjustments
to it. If you can't find it, hopefully someone better at using the archives
can dig it up. ;-)
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 2SI690L-70, Leechburg, PA
> On Nov 27, 2013, at 6:07 PM, "lownslow" <mnmcouillard@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi friends, I am the recent new owner of a Mk IIIC project that I am in the process
of completing, so I want to introduce myself to this list and say hi!
I am in Colorado Springs and am installing a Rotax Rick 670 due to the higher
field elevations out here. (I was very interested in the post I just read on
the 670, posted earlier this month). Being a newbie, I feel I have lot's to learn,
and remain very "teachable". I hope to have the project flying within the
next 3 to 6 months.
>
> 22 years of Air Force flying, laid it to rest for a number of years and now have
the itch again! I'm excited about the aircraft and about the community that
I find here. Seems everyone is really enjoying the flying and the commeraderie.
>
> How many of you are flying Kolbs in the mountains--just curious what advice you
may have.
>
> Has anyone put together a POH of sorts? I am unaware of anything available through
Kolb, but maybe I'm wrong about that? (I'm guessing most people put something
together as a result of their Phase I test period but it would be nice
to have a starting point.)
>
> The critical question: I have most photos from the previous owner builder's
log but he was unable to locate pictures of the early construction of the cage
and tail boom. I'm wondering if it might be possible to replace those with some
generic pictures to complete my builder's log. My aircraft has a white painted
cage structure. I would be very grateful.
>
> thanks so much
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=414361#414361
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Kolb Mk3 POH/checklist |
Mike,
Here is the front and back sides of my laminated sheets. These passed my air
worthiness inspection as a POH. My engine is single ignition so you will hav
e to edit in your dual ignition check, and you may not want to turn on your E
IS (if you use one) until after the engine is started to avoid inductive spi
kes from the starter motor and solenoid coil that could harm your electronic
s.
I hope this helps.
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
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Subject: | Re: Kolb Mk3 POH/checklist |
awesome! thanks Denny! I appreciate it
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Subject: | Re: Introducing myself--help needed. |
On 11/27/2013 5:07 PM, lownslow wrote:
>
> Hi friends, I am the recent new owner of a Mk IIIC project that I am in the process
of completing, so I want to introduce myself to this list and say hi!
I am in Colorado Springs and am installing a Rotax Rick 670 due to the higher
field elevations out here. (I was very interested in the post I just read on
the 670, posted earlier this month). Being a newbie, I feel I have lot's to learn,
and remain very "teachable". I hope to have the project flying within the
next 3 to 6 months.
>
> 22 years of Air Force flying, laid it to rest for a number of years and now have
the itch again! I'm excited about the aircraft and about the community that
I find here. Seems everyone is really enjoying the flying and the commeraderie.
>
> How many of you are flying Kolbs in the mountains--just curious what advice you
may have.
>
> Has anyone put together a POH of sorts? I am unaware of anything available through
Kolb, but maybe I'm wrong about that? (I'm guessing most people put something
together as a result of their Phase I test period but it would be nice
to have a starting point.)
>
> The critical question: I have most photos from the previous owner builder's
log but he was unable to locate pictures of the early construction of the cage
and tail boom. I'm wondering if it might be possible to replace those with some
generic pictures to complete my builder's log. My aircraft has a white painted
cage structure. I would be very grateful.
>
> thanks so much
>
> Mike
Did the previous builder keep notes during that phase of the build? Pics
aren't required.
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Subject: | Re: Introducing myself--help needed. |
wow, didn't know that.....
that's good news; the builder kept good notes in a word document that I was going
to upload into kitlog pro, but I'm wondering if that's worth my time
thanks!
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