---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 12/11/13: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:44 AM - Re: 582-99 water pump housing (tombaisley) 2. 06:46 AM - Re: 582-99 water pump housing (Richard Girard) 3. 03:18 PM - Re: Re: 582-99 water pump housing (Dennis Rowe) 4. 05:16 PM - Re: 582-99 water pump housing (tombaisley) 5. 05:32 PM - Re: 582-99 water pump housing (tombaisley) 6. 05:53 PM - Re: Re: 582-99 water pump housing (Dennis Rowe) 7. 05:55 PM - Re: Re: 582-99 water pump housing (Dennis Rowe) 8. 05:57 PM - Re: Re: 582-99 water pump housing (Dennis Rowe) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:44:41 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: 582-99 water pump housing From: "tombaisley" What are the dimensions of the TRX250R rad and hose inlets? thanks Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415377#415377 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:46:14 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 582-99 water pump housing From: Richard Girard Dennis, My engine is a -90, the IIIX I worked on had the -99. I plumbed both as required. You're right about the -99, I had forgotten they have a dual spigot at the thermostat housing, too. Rick On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Dennis Rowe wrote: > Thanks for the advice Richard, I'll look into that rad, right now I was > planning on using a Honda TRX250R rad I have had for a while that looks to > be ideally sized, but I will have to have larger spigots installed to fit > the 1" rad hoses of the Rotax. > So I take it if you used the single inlet pump housing, you either blocked > off one of the two water outlets in the head, or you installed a tee in the > return line to the pump? > Or maybe you have the 582-90 single outlet head. > > > Dennis "Skid" Rowe > Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA > > > On Dec 10, 2013, at 7:07 PM, Richard Girard wrote: > > Denny, I have installed the radiator from the mid 80's Honda Magna > motorcycle on two different 582 systems. They have the advantage of being > A) cheap to buy and B) need no modifications to work. The last on a 582-99 > performed a climb out to 6000 on a day when the temperature was 117F > without ever getting to the red line on the temp gauge. The article I wrote > about the installation is in the archives but if you cannot find it let me > know and I can send you it to you. > Ask your engine builder but you might want to consider the waterpump cover > for the -90 rather than the -99. The later cover was designed with the PPC > crowd in mind where the throttle is the elevator and the problem of flash > cooling is endemic to them because of it. > > Rick Girard > > > On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Dennis Rowe wrote: > >> >> Good tip John, I'll check with Ronnie, Rotax thinks highly of their parts >> so we'll see what a used one goes for. If I do go with a pumas tic one, I >> would make sure ifs rated for the heat swings inherent in a cooling system. >> Was thinking of something from an automotive heater system. 1" lines. >> >> Dennis "Skid" Rowe >> Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA >> >> >> >> > On Dec 10, 2013, at 9:50 AM, "John Hauck" wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > I can adapt a single inlet pump housing with a plastic tee in the line >> if I >> > have to, but the dual inlet will make a much cleaner looking >> installation. >> > Dennis "Skid" Rowe >> > Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA >> > >> > >> > >> > Dennis R/Kolbers: >> > >> > Had a nylon 1" hose barb fail on my well pump supply line recently. >> This >> > plastic fitting was under ground with nice cool water flowing through >> it. >> > >> > I would consider the cooling system critical on a 582. Failure of a >> fitting >> > would most likely put you down very quickly. >> > >> > Personally, I would go with aluminum pump housing. Check with Ronnie >> Smith, >> > South Mississippi Light Aircraft if you cannot find another source. 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Has 3/4 inch fittings, and a cap. Hose fittings are located on the top left and bottom right corners, cap is on the top right. Dennis "Skid" Rowe Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA > On Dec 11, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "tombaisley" wrote: > > > What are the dimensions of the TRX250R rad and hose inlets? > thanks > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415377#415377 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:16:45 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: 582-99 water pump housing From: "tombaisley" I'm installing a 582 on a MKIIIc, I want to install the radiator below the gearbox aft of the fuselage, the Magna radiator is awkward because the inflow and out flow are on the wrong side when installed in the rear configuration, Surfing ebay I found a trx450 radiator, uses straight hose connections and is configured correctly but the the dimensions are 12x12.75"might be a bit large. The TRX250 sounds like the right size but the upper hose connection comes out at an odd angle? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415419#415419 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:32:21 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: 582-99 water pump housing From: "tombaisley" I take back my last post I found the 1988 trx250 use straight hose connections Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415420#415420 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:53:42 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: 582-99 water pump housing From: Dennis Rowe Some of them come straight back, search eBay and you'll find some that come straight out. Or Bylers radiator in UT could probably change the spouts. If I use the the 250R rad on the 670 I'll have Bylers give it their full meal deal first. Dennis "Skid" Rowe Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA > On Dec 11, 2013, at 8:16 PM, "tombaisley" wrote: > > > I'm installing a 582 on a MKIIIc, I want to install the radiator below the gearbox aft of the fuselage, the Magna radiator is awkward because the inflow and out flow are on the wrong side when installed in the rear configuration, Surfing ebay I found a trx450 radiator, uses straight hose connections and is configured correctly but the the dimensions are 12x12.75"might be a bit large. The TRX250 sounds like the right size but the upper hose connection comes out at an odd angle? > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415419#415419 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:55:02 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: 582-99 water pump housing From: Dennis Rowe Should have read this one before I replied to your last post. lol do not archive Dennis "Skid" Rowe Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA > On Dec 11, 2013, at 8:32 PM, "tombaisley" wrote: > > > I take back my last post I found the 1988 trx250 use straight hose connections > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415420#415420 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:57:29 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: 582-99 water pump housing From: Dennis Rowe My bad, it's Mylers radiator repair, not Bylers. They do good work on aluminum rads only! Dennis "Skid" Rowe Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA > On Dec 11, 2013, at 8:32 PM, "tombaisley" wrote: > > > I take back my last post I found the 1988 trx250 use straight hose connections > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415420#415420 > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.