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1. 02:28 AM - Re: Cold in cockpit (Ted Cowan)
2. 12:22 PM - Cabin heat... (Nick Cassara)
3. 01:18 PM - Re: Cabin heat... (Larry Cottrell)
4. 01:38 PM - Re: Cabin heat... (B Young)
5. 01:43 PM - Re: Cabin heat... (B Young)
6. 10:39 PM - Fw: The three-month flight along the Nile (Robert Laird)
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| Subject: | Re: Cold in cockpit |
I still have my military green cold flying suit fir sale. Like a military jump
suit except it is light and very warm lots of zippers and good looking. Almost
new. Flew rag and tube planes for several years with it. Want a hundred.
Will send picks and i will refund money if you get cold wearing it!!! Okay to
contact off list. Ted cowan. Slingshot 912ul zoom zoom
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> 1. 07:51 AM - Re: Kolb Firestar Winter storage (KIRBY, DENNIS T GS-13 USAF
AFMC AFNWC/ENS)
> 2. 10:41 AM - Re: Re: Kolb Firestar Winter storage (John Hauck)
> 3. 11:02 AM - Re: Re: Kolb Firestar Winter storage (Larry Cottrell)
> 4. 12:02 PM - Re: looking for a 582 exhaust manifold (tombaisley)
> 5. 12:44 PM - Re: Re: Kolb Firestar Winter storage (John Hauck)
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> Time: 07:51:17 AM PST US
> From: "KIRBY, DENNIS T GS-13 USAF AFMC AFNWC/ENS" <dennis.kirby.3@us.af.mil>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb Firestar Winter storage
>
>
> Larry Cottrell wrote:
> << I'm not sure how cold is too cold? ... dressing properly is a whole lot easier
> than all the engineering you would have to do. Larry >>
>
> Kolb Friends -
>
> I hafta agree with Larry, in that dressing warmly is much easier than plumbing
> heat into your Kolb cockpit.
>
> Here in the higher elevations of northern New Mexico, I am happy to report that
> I fly my Mark-3 every month of the year, despite the fact that temps get well
> below freezing from Nov thru March. I do not have a heater. Instead, I just
> wear lots of layers - double socks, long johns, scarf, wool cap, ski gloves,
> etc. My cockpit is semi-open, so whatever the ambient temperature is outside
> at altitude, that's what's in the cockpit. At least I'm out of the wind - that
> helps.
>
> I've flown in single-digit temps (degrees F), and am OK for about an hour. But
> that's the duration I usually fly, as most of my winter flights are just local.
>
> What is important though, is to have your engine warm enough to start on cold
days.
> I have had a few occasions below 20 degrees where my 912 would not start.
> To remedy this, I leave a 40-watt bulb tucked under the engine all winter long,
> between flights. I keep a blanket over the engine to keep the heat in.
> So now, when I go out to fly in winter, the Rotax starts right up!
>
> Dennis Kirby
> Mark-3, 912ul, in
> Sandia Park, NM
>
> do not archive
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
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> Time: 10:41:52 AM PST US
> From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb Firestar Winter storage
>
>
>
> What is important though, is to have your engine warm enough to start on
> cold days. I have had a few occasions below 20 degrees where my 912 would
> not start. To remedy this, I leave a 40-watt bulb tucked under the engine
> all winter long, between flights. I keep a blanket over the engine to keep
> the heat in. So now, when I go out to fly in winter, the Rotax starts right
> up!
>
> Dennis Kirby
> Mark-3, 912ul, in
> Sandia Park, NM
>
>
> Dennis K/Kolbers:
>
> I think the key to starting both 2 strokes and 4 stroke Rotax engines is
> following the factory recommended procedure and having a "hot" battery.
>
> Never had a problem starting any of my cold 912 series engines.
>
> -Throttle closed.
>
> -Enricher full on.
>
> -Battery fully charged to turn the engine over at or above 200 rpm.
>
> Helps to have good spark plugs and fresh fuel.
>
> I'm ready to fly, but the weather at hauck's holler isn't. Just bumped 40F
> at noon today. Outlook is more of and colder temps for the next week.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
>
>
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> Time: 11:02:14 AM PST US
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb Firestar Winter storage
> From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
>
> I have read both of your thoughts and agree with both of them, however
> Dennis with his light bulb keeps the oil warm, and that would place less
> stress on the engine and the parts. It wouldn't take much to either turn
> the light on before you intend to fly, or put it on a timer to come on
> sometime in the night and go off in the morning.
>
> I have kept a "maintenance charger" on my battery this winter, and while it
> had a lot of poop, it still took three tries and a long time grinding to
> get mine to fire the last time I flew. Of course it is a bit colder here
> than in Ala.
> Larry
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 11:41 AM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> What is important though, is to have your engine warm enough to start on
>> cold days. I have had a few occasions below 20 degrees where my 912 would
>> not start. To remedy this, I leave a 40-watt bulb tucked under the engine
>> all winter long, between flights. I keep a blanket over the engine to keep
>> the heat in. So now, when I go out to fly in winter, the Rotax starts
>> right
>> up!
>>
>> Dennis Kirby
>> Mark-3, 912ul, in
>> Sandia Park, NM
>>
>>
>> Dennis K/Kolbers:
>>
>> I think the key to starting both 2 strokes and 4 stroke Rotax engines is
>> following the factory recommended procedure and having a "hot" battery.
>>
>> Never had a problem starting any of my cold 912 series engines.
>>
>> -Throttle closed.
>>
>> -Enricher full on.
>>
>> -Battery fully charged to turn the engine over at or above 200 rpm.
>>
>> Helps to have good spark plugs and fresh fuel.
>>
>> I'm ready to fly, but the weather at hauck's holler isn't. Just bumped 40F
>> at noon today. Outlook is more of and colder temps for the next week.
>>
>> john h
>> mkIII
>> Titus, Alabama
>>
>>
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> Time: 12:02:09 PM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: looking for a 582 exhaust manifold
> From: "tombaisley" <tombaisley@yahoo.com>
>
>
> Well that was easy,
> Thanks, Bob
>
> Tom
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=416520#416520
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> ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________
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> Time: 12:44:41 PM PST US
> From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb Firestar Winter storage
>
> I've flown a few places north of Alabama. ;-)
>
> I agree with a warm engine and a hot battery.
>
> 1961, Bad Tolz, Germany, my Volvo battery was not strong enough to crank the
> engine in near zero conditions. A tea kettle of hot water poured over the
> battery that was mounted in the middle high on the firewall, was enough to
> wake it up and give me a start.
>
> A lot of Rotax folks have difficulty starting in cool weather because that
> don't follow the Rotax recommended start sequence.
>
> High of 42F here. We are having a heat wave.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
>
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> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Cottrell
> Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 1:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb Firestar Winter storage
>
> I have read both of your thoughts and agree with both of them, however
> Dennis with his light bulb keeps the oil warm, and that would place less
> stress on the engine and the parts. It wouldn't take much to either turn the
> light on before you intend to fly, or put it on a timer to come on sometime
> in the night and go off in the morning.
>
> I have kept a "maintenance charger" on my battery this winter, and while it
> had a lot of poop, it still took three tries and a long time grinding to get
> mine to fire the last time I flew. Of course it is a bit colder here than in
> Ala.
> Larry
>
> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 11:41 AM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
> What is important though, is to have your engine warm enough to start on
> cold days. I have had a few occasions below 20 degrees where my 912 would
> not start. To remedy this, I leave a 40-watt bulb tucked under the engine
> all winter long, between flights. I keep a blanket over the engine to keep
> the heat in. So now, when I go out to fly in winter, the Rotax starts right
> up!
>
> Dennis Kirby
> Mark-3, 912ul, in
> Sandia Park, NM
>
>
> Dennis K/Kolbers:
>
> I think the key to starting both 2 strokes and 4 stroke Rotax engines is
> following the factory recommended procedure and having a "hot" battery.
>
> Never had a problem starting any of my cold 912 series engines.
>
> -Throttle closed.
>
> -Enricher full on.
>
> -Battery fully charged to turn the engine over at or above 200 rpm.
>
> Helps to have good spark plugs and fresh fuel.
>
> I'm ready to fly, but the weather at hauck's holler isn't. Just bumped 40F
> at noon today. Outlook is more of and colder temps for the next week.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
>
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Hello Kolb flyers,
Having spent quite a few months crammed in the back seat of a supercub,
flying winter wildlife surveys, I have an appreciation for a little cabin
heat! We always dressed for the weather, but the lack of blood circulation
made it hard to stay warm in sub zero weather. I intend to copy Larry's
pervious cabin heat design, and will plumb it to blow in to the nose cone,
and back up the windshield. Are Kolb's drafty enough that frost build up on
the inside of windshield is not a concern?
Thanks for your incites!
Nick Cassara
Palmer, Alaska
607AK
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| Subject: | Re: Cabin heat... |
I never noticed a problem with fogging, but I had a 12 V little hand held
blower just in case. I never had to use it in Oregon weather, I couldn't
say about Palmer Ak.
Larry
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Nick Cassara <nickc@mtaonline.net> wrote:
> Hello Kolb flyers,
>
>
> Having spent quite a few months crammed in the back seat of a supercub,
> flying winter wildlife surveys, I have an appreciation for a little cabin
> heat! We always dressed for the weather, but the lack of blood circulatio
n
> made it hard to stay warm in sub zero weather. I intend to copy Larry=92s
> pervious cabin heat design, and will plumb it to blow in to the nose cone
,
> and back up the windshield. Are Kolb=92s drafty enough that frost build u
p on
> the inside of windshield is not a concern?
>
>
> Thanks for your incites!
>
>
> Nick Cassara
>
> Palmer, Alaska
>
>
> 607AK
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| Subject: | Re: Cabin heat... |
I have
On Jan 4, 2014 1:25 PM, "Nick Cassara" <nickc@mtaonline.net> wrote:
> Hello Kolb flyers,
>
>
> Having spent quite a few months crammed in the back seat of a supercub,
> flying winter wildlife surveys, I have an appreciation for a little cabin
> heat! We always dressed for the weather, but the lack of blood circulatio
n
> made it hard to stay warm in sub zero weather. I intend to copy Larry=92s
> pervious cabin heat design, and will plumb it to blow in to the nose cone
,
> and back up the windshield. Are Kolb=92s drafty enough that frost build u
p on
> the inside of windshield is not a concern?
>
>
> Thanks for your incites!
>
>
> Nick Cassara
>
> Palmer, Alaska
>
>
> 607AK
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| Subject: | Re: Cabin heat... |
Never had problems with frost on the window. I tired to make the plane
air resistant, but did not worry about air tight.
On Jan 4, 2014 1:25 PM, "Nick Cassara" <nickc@mtaonline.net> wrote:
> Hello Kolb flyers,
>
>
> Having spent quite a few months crammed in the back seat of a supercub,
> flying winter wildlife surveys, I have an appreciation for a little cabin
> heat! We always dressed for the weather, but the lack of blood circulatio
n
> made it hard to stay warm in sub zero weather. I intend to copy Larry=92s
> pervious cabin heat design, and will plumb it to blow in to the nose cone
,
> and back up the windshield. Are Kolb=92s drafty enough that frost build u
p on
> the inside of windshield is not a concern?
>
>
> Thanks for your incites!
>
>
> Nick Cassara
>
> Palmer, Alaska
>
>
> 607AK
>
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| Subject: | Fwd: The three-month flight along the Nile |
This made me happy to read, celebrating a long forgotten aviation mechanic!
The three-month flight along the Nile
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25578363
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