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1. 03:51 AM - Re: Re: Kolb MK lll (Dana Hague)
2. 04:39 AM - Morning Flight (Larlaeb)
3. 05:42 AM - Re: Kolb MK lll (dany88)
4. 06:07 AM - Re: Kolb MK lll (Richard Pike)
5. 07:14 AM - Re: Re: Kolb MK lll (Jack)
6. 07:19 AM - Kolb MK lll (K I)
7. 07:26 AM - Re: Kolb MK lll (dany88)
8. 08:04 AM - Re: Kolb MK lll (dany88)
9. 08:32 AM - Re: Re: Kolb MK lll (Herb)
10. 10:09 AM - Re: Re: Kolb MK lll (Richard Girard)
11. 12:13 PM - Re: Kolb MK lll (Richard Pike)
12. 01:00 PM - Re: Re: Kolb MK lll (John Hauck)
13. 01:09 PM - Re: Re: Kolb MK lll (Dennis Rowe)
14. 01:29 PM - Re: Re: Kolb MK lll (B Young)
15. 01:39 PM - Re: Kolb MK lll (dany88)
16. 01:41 PM - Re: Kolb MK lll (dany88)
17. 01:47 PM - Re: Re: Kolb MK lll (Martin Koxxy)
18. 01:56 PM - Firefly flaperon questions (Stuart Harner)
19. 02:03 PM - Firefly control cable questions (Stuart Harner)
20. 04:52 PM - Re: (OOPSIE!) Firefly flaperon questions (Stuart Harner)
21. 05:07 PM - Re: (OOPSIE!) Firefly flaperon questions (Beauford)
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At 02:54 AM 1/15/2014, Dennis Rowe wrote:
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>And the tail is modified for higher rotation clearance. Hence there is no
>fin or ruder beneath the tail boom. Hardly a Kolb anymore. But probably
>still a solid flyer. No way for us to know the quality of the build
>without being able to touch and inspect it,
>Buyer beware.
Tri gear... is that a Ferguson rather than a Kolb? Isn't a Ferguson
basically a Kolb copy with tri gear? Or perhaps it's a Kolb modified with
Ferguson parts. Then you have to wonder how well the conversion was
engineered...
Dana
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thanks to all for the moment.
When will purchase the aircraft I will send you pictures.
However, I can turn it like this?
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Dana, I think you may have hit it.
http://siamesekrazy.wix.com/fergusonaircraft
http://siamesekrazy.wix.com/fergusonaircraft#!about
Daniele - are you sure that the airplane you are looking at is a Kolb?
Please verify by comparing it with the pictures on the 2nd link above.
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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On 1/15/2014 9:06 AM, Richard Pike wrote:
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> Dana, I think you may have hit it.
> http://siamesekrazy.wix.com/fergusonaircraft
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> http://siamesekrazy.wix.com/fergusonaircraft#!about
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> Daniele - are you sure that the airplane you are looking at is a Kolb?
> Please verify by comparing it with the pictures on the 2nd link above.
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> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
> My soul shall be joyful in the LORD; It shall rejoice in His salvation. Psalm
35:9
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> Richard, comparing the picture he sent first it looks like a Kolb tail feathers.
Horizontial stabalizer front attachment point mounted to the tailboom. Not
like the Fergy.
>
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Hi Boyd=2CI have traveled around the US looking for the right Kolb. I enjoy
ed the flights we took in your MK III. I am still seeking a Kolb Mark III
Classic to buy. Let me know if you can think of someone who is selling one.
Thanks again Boyd=2C I look forward to our next flight. Give me a call wh
en you are ready. 801-502-7016Kurt
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The owner has confirmed to me that it is a kolb mark the three. From the photos
it does not seem fergusona. The owner told me that when it was built object to
the amendment made to the three axes, because he did not like the bicyclo
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look at this picture.
Here you can see better.
the former owner.
according to you and a kolb mark 3 or not?
from the pictures it seems to you, anyway Saturday I'm going to take then you keep
up to date
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Very do able mods....use the original gear leg tube attach points but
angle the legs outward and backward ..add free castering nose wheel(or
maybe not?) .. and one is in business... should lengthen the take off
roll some what . Herb
On 01/15/2014 10:03 AM, dany88 wrote:
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> look at this picture.
> Here you can see better.
> the former owner.
> according to you and a kolb mark 3 or not?
> from the pictures it seems to you, anyway Saturday I'm going to take then you
keep up to date
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Daniele, There's certainly a lot of Mk III in the airplane, but there have
been so many changes made that it is a new airplane now. Good luck.
Rick Girard
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On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 10:03 AM, dany88 <danielecafaro@alice.it> wrote:
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> look at this picture.
> Here you can see better.
> the former owner.
> according to you and a kolb mark 3 or not?
> from the pictures it seems to you, anyway Saturday I'm going to take then
> you keep up to date
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Looking at this interior picture, it appears the original gear leg tubes
were cut off of the hoop ring that fits at the forward end of the 6" fuselage tube.
Then it looks like new structure was welded up to attach the gear leg tubes
at a new angle. Assuming that if was done properly, it might be OK.
But I'm not an engineer, so I don't know..
The fuel lines in the picture are brown, obviously old.
They need to be replaced.
Suggest you use standard automotive fuel line.
Also suggest you carefully check the rest of the fuel system.
There may be other problems which are not as obvious.
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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Seems there were photos of two different aircraft, one a standard MKIII and
one that had been modified to be a trigear???
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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Yeah, caught that too, must be a comm gap. Pretty certain he's getting the funky
one.
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
> On Jan 15, 2014, at 3:59 PM, "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
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> Seems there were photos of two different aircraft, one a standard MKIII and
> one that had been modified to be a trigear???
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> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
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I noticed the same thing, and when I looked at the fergy , the horizontal
liked to be mounted higher.
Boyd
On Jan 15, 2014 2:04 PM, "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
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> Seems there were photos of two different aircraft, one a standard MKIII
> and
> one that had been modified to be a trigear???
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> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
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according to you, this may be an old ferguson?
of source documents there kolb mark 3
the owner tells me that in costruzzione and changed.
but in reality is a kolb mark 3
then with a bit of work pasienza and I can bring it back to its origins
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where can I find photos of the ferguson 20 years ago?
so I can compare? (ferguson or kolb)
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I think what Dany is trying to say is, can I convert the aircraft from
tricycle gear to tailwheel (like the one in the photo).
"When will purchase the aircraft I will send you pictures.
However, I can turn it like this?"
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Dennis Rowe <rowedenny@windstream.net>wrote:
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> Yeah, caught that too, must be a comm gap. Pretty certain he's getting the
> funky one.
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> Dennis "Skid" Rowe
> Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
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> > On Jan 15, 2014, at 3:59 PM, "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
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> > Seems there were photos of two different aircraft, one a standard MKIII
> and
> > one that had been modified to be a trigear???
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> > john h
> > mkIII
> > Titus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Firefly flaperon questions |
Hi,
In preparing to install the flaperon control tube and handle, I have been
studying the plans (Page 17 of Firefly plans). This has me a little
confused.
The plan states: " Set-up the linkage with the flaperons in the normal
trailing position behind the wing (flat along the bottom). The flaperon
actuating handle should then be in the forward slot and the slider will be
as far back as possible."
The drawing goes on to show the handle in the lowest position and labeled as
"Normal" with the full up position labeled as "Full Flaperon". The drawing
also shows the slider in the rearmost position, although it is not labeled
to indicate if the flaps are normal or full.
To my mind, this is all backwards.
When the slider is in the rearmost position, the torque tube is in its most
downward setting. Likewise, when the slider is in the most forward
position, the torque tube is at the highest point.
Do the flaps get deployed by moving UP from the trailing position? Or is
the drawing just the opposite of the way things work?
If the flaps deploy by moving down from the trailing position, that means
the "normal" position of the handle is in the top slot and the full flaps
position is in the bottom slot.
Can anyone clarify this for me?
Thanks,
Stuart
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| Subject: | Firefly control cable questions |
Hi,
After installing the elevator and rudder control cables I have noticed a
couple of things.
1) The cables lay on the bottom of the inside of the tail boom.
2) The pulleys at the front of the boom (by the gear legs) do not
rotate, even though they rotate easily by hand. There is not enough tension
from the cable to cause them to turn.
3) With the stick full aft, the rudder cables rub on the elevator
control horn.
The questions are:
1) As dirt and grit accumulates on the cables, does this cause any
concern about wear and tear on the inside of the tail boom?
2) If the pulleys are only "guiding" the cables and not rotating, will
they get a flat spot worn on them, or is there any reason to be concerned?
3) Do I need an up limit stop on the elevator to keep it from hitting
the rudder cables?
4) What is the normal full up deflection angle for the elevator?
Thanks,
Stuart
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| Subject: | Firefly flaperon questions |
OK, I just figured it out.
The horn that attaches to the aileron points forward, so that changes the
direction of travel.
Since I don't have the wings mounted yet and the horns are not on the
ailerons, I did pick up on this one little detail.
Color me embarrassed.
Sorry everyone,
Stuart
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Harner
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 3:56 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Firefly flaperon questions
Hi,
In preparing to install the flaperon control tube and handle, I have been
studying the plans (Page 17 of Firefly plans). This has me a little
confused.
The plan states: " Set-up the linkage with the flaperons in the normal
trailing position behind the wing (flat along the bottom). The flaperon
actuating handle should then be in the forward slot and the slider will be
as far back as possible."
The drawing goes on to show the handle in the lowest position and labeled as
"Normal" with the full up position labeled as "Full Flaperon". The drawing
also shows the slider in the rearmost position, although it is not labeled
to indicate if the flaps are normal or full.
To my mind, this is all backwards.
When the slider is in the rearmost position, the torque tube is in its most
downward setting. Likewise, when the slider is in the most forward
position, the torque tube is at the highest point.
Do the flaps get deployed by moving UP from the trailing position? Or is
the drawing just the opposite of the way things work?
If the flaps deploy by moving down from the trailing position, that means
the "normal" position of the handle is in the top slot and the full flaps
position is in the bottom slot.
Can anyone clarify this for me?
Thanks,
Stuart
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| Subject: | Firefly flaperon questions |
Brother Stuart.
Don't feel too bad, Pard. I had the wings on backwards for most of the
first test flights..
Talk about yer long takeoff rolls.and the stalls were like arguing with my
first wife.
Beauford
FF-076
Brandon FL
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Harner
Subject: RE: (OOPSIE!) Kolb-List: Firefly flaperon questions
OK, I just figured it out.
The horn that attaches to the aileron points forward, so that changes the
direction of travel.
Since I don't have the wings mounted yet and the horns are not on the
ailerons, I did pick up on this one little detail.
Color me embarrassed.
Sorry everyone,
Stuart
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