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Thu 01/30/14


Total Messages Posted: 7



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     1. 05:58 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 01/29/14 (Dan)
     2. 06:24 AM - Re: problem firestar (dany88)
     3. 06:36 AM - Re: problem firestar (dany88)
     4. 04:49 PM - Brakes Not holding (Brad Nation)
     5. 07:42 PM - Re: Brakes Not holding (kinne russ)
     6. 08:25 PM - Re: Brakes Not holding (william sullivan)
     7. 08:57 PM - Re: Brakes Not holding (Brad Nation)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:58:50 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 01/29/14
    From: Dan <dpcharter1@gmail.com>
    I sold my original FS to a guy many yrs ago that was 90 lbs over gross. I'm not sure is the wing will take it or not but your CG will be out too far forward. To my knowledge, he never flew the Kolb.There's allot more knowledgeable people on the list that can explain. Dan Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 30, 2014, at 2:02 AM, Kolb-List Digest Server <kolb-list@matronics.com> wrote: > > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Kolb-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Kolb-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 14-01-29&Archive=Kolb > > Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 14-01-29&Archive=Kolb > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Kolb-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Wed 01/29/14: 6 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 05:44 AM - Re: Re: problem firestar (Jack B. Hart) > 2. 07:55 AM - Re: Re: problem Firestar (John Hauck) > 3. 08:27 AM - Re: Re: problem Firestar (John Hauck) > 4. 09:56 AM - Re: problem firestar (dany88) > 5. 11:37 AM - Re: Re: problem Firestar (Jack B. Hart) > 6. 02:05 PM - Original flightstar gross (lspilot82) > > > > ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 05:44:29 AM PST US > From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net> > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: problem firestar > > > Boyd, > > Checked out possibilities at McMaster Carr. (http://www.mcmaster.com) > > Looked at Teflon washers. Part number 95630A505, Low-Friction PTFE Flat > Washer, 1/2" Screw Size, 1.5" OD, .017"-.023" Thick Packages of 10 for > $15.71 > > And sheets. One side is etched for bonding with adhesive. The other side > has a smooth finish. Part number 8711K91, Sheets Made with Teflon PTFE, > Adhesive Ready, .015" Thick, 6" x 6" $7.81 per sheet > > Jack B. Hart FF004 > Winchester, IN > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > From: B Young <byoungplumbing@gmail.com> > > Been thinking,,, over here we have plastic 1 gallon milk bottles .... If > you cut some o of the very thin plastic from a milk bottle, or a thin > plastic Pepsi or coke bottle and put between the universal joint and the > frame,,, and under the washer on the inside of the universal,,,, then when > it turns when you fold the wings. It should cause no wear. > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 07:55:34 AM PST US > From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: problem Firestar > > > Kolbers: > > I don't think Homer Kolb intended anything between the universal and the > airframe, especially paint, plastic washers, and "o" rings, especially > paint. The end of the universal should be clean as well as the contact > point on the airframe, with a light coat of grease to prevent rust and > assist in rotation during wing fold. > > Normally during welding the universal joints, the flat end piece warps a > bit. When I had a problem with a loose joint on an early Kolb I built, I > discovered the paint and primer had worn off after my initial adjustment and > installation, and the end of the universal was slightly domed/convex. I > removed it, got the appropriate tools, whacked it a couple times creating a > slightly concave end piece. Now I had two pieces that mated on flat > surfaces. Next I used a combination of thick (1/16") and thin (1/32") AN > washers to adjust out the slop that I got when the castellated nut was lined > up for the cotter pin. You know how that works. One slot is too tight and > the next is too loose. I have a lot of hours, compared to most Kolbs, on my > MKIII, and I have snug rear attach points on my wings that will rotate > without causing any damage to wing or airframe. A lot of force can be > applied to these parts when rotating the wing if the connection is too > tight. > > I personally would not use plastic or rubber to snug up these connections. > My personal opinion only. Don't recommend anyone else doing it the way I > did, but my way has proven to work well over many hours and many years. > > john h > mkIII > Titus, Alabama > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:27:25 AM PST US > From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: problem Firestar > > > Kolbers: > > My previous post reminded me of another problem I encountered about 20 years > ago with my MKIII and my first 912 installation on that aircraft. As usual, > I painted the engine mount angle aluminum with plenty primer and paint to > make it look good. The mistake I made was not to mask off the small area > where the mounts contacted the bosses on the engine case. Didn't take long > for vibration to erode the paint and primer causing the four engine mount > bolts to loosen up. > > When I swapped the 912ul for a 912uls I alodined the aluminum angle engine > mounts. No more problems. > > john h > mkIII > Titus, Alabama > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 09:56:47 AM PST US > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: problem firestar > From: "dany88" <danielecafaro@alice.it> > > > Here is a brass plate cutout thin now. > Some photos of the work done for painting > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417822#417822 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/cel7_032_478x640_144.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/cel7_029_640x490_126.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/cel7_037_500x291_160.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/cel7_038_640x294_207.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/cel7_040_640x463_199.jpg > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 11:37:12 AM PST US > From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net> > Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: problem Firestar > > > John, > > I do not believe Homer Kolb intended one to tighten the wing universal > assembly bolts after one unfolds the wing prior to flying as you do. > > At 200+ hours mine were very loose and worn. I repaired them so that I can > fold the wing as Homer intended without using a wrench to untighten bolts. > > Jack B. Hart FF004 > Winchester, IN > > > At 09:55 AM 1/29/2014 -0600, you wrote: >> >> Kolbers: >> >> I don't think Homer Kolb intended anything between the universal and the >> airframe, especially paint, plastic washers, and "o" rings, especially >> paint. The end of the universal should be clean as well as the contact >> point on the airframe, with a light coat of grease to prevent rust and >> assist in rotation during wing fold. >> > ................................................. > >> I personally would not use plastic or rubber to snug up these connections. >> My personal opinion only. Don't recommend anyone else doing it the way I >> did, but my way has proven to work well over many hours and many years. >> > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 02:05:44 PM PST US > Subject: Kolb-List: Original flightstar gross > From: "lspilot82" <brianrx77@gmail.com> > > > I just recently purchased an original Firestar with the 5 rib wing. I was wondering > if it will be safe to fly over gross? It weighs in at 330lbs and it has a > 6 gal tank with a 447. Right now with my weight and the weight of full fuel, > I'll be about 90lbs over gross. I'm not going to fly it in high winds and will > fly it during calm days, but we all know sometimes you can be as safe as possible > and still fly into some bad things. I just want to know if I'll be ok as > long as I don't push it. Another question is, I seen you can add additional ribs > to the wings. Making a 5 rib wing into a 9 rib wing. I would like to know how > to go about doing that, and if it really is beneficial. I'd rather not buy > a 7 rib wing and just make my 5 rib safer. Are there any videos or anything written > on that. Thanks[/quote] > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417840#417840 > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:24:23 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: problem firestar
    From: "dany88" <danielecafaro@alice.it>
    Work performed perfectly, the joint is not more movement, as you can see from this video http://youtu.be/AHbFpa_Q9NQ I am attaching a few pictures Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417874#417874 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/foto_cel_0_019_640x477_203.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/foto_cel_0_006_640x411_121.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/foto_cel_0_003_578x640_873.jpg


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    Time: 06:36:53 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: problem firestar
    From: "dany88" <danielecafaro@alice.it>
    How do I replace the main gear? I unscrewed the bolt near the hub and the bolt inside the fuselage, but not sfilla the bar of aluminum. Why? how can I do? I enclose a photo Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417877#417877 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/cel_4_014_2_580x718_520.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/cel_4_015_2_145.jpg


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    Time: 04:49:54 PM PST US
    From: Brad Nation <nationcap@comcast.net>
    Subject: Brakes Not holding
    Im having problems with my brakes not holding on my MKIII Xtra with a 912 80ph Rotax. They system is dual hydraulic Matco brakes. At first the calipers werent extending and retracting and I noticed that they were gunned up so I cleaned them with WD40, a green scrubby, and a tooth brush. Now they seem to be working, at least the pistons move in and back out slightly as they self adjust. The pads and disks dont appear to be warped and the pads still have a good amount of wear on them. I have also bled them. As I didnt know any better at the time I bled them in the same manner as car brakes. I have taken the wheel off and removed the disk and made sure the pistons were working properly. There doesnt seem to be any air in the lines. Could I have gotten WD40 on the pads? I suppose that is possible. They seem to work ok on the pre-purchase flight. The aircraft was trailered to its current home. Any suggestions would be most helpful. Thanks in Advance, Brad N952DK


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    Time: 07:42:49 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Brakes Not holding
    From: kinne russ <russk50@gmail.com>
    Current home is where? do not archive On Jan 30, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Brad Nation wrote: > > Im having problems with my brakes not holding on my MKIII Xtra with a 912 80ph Rotax. They system is dual hydraulic Matco brakes. At first the calipers werent extending and retracting and I noticed that they were gunned up so I cleaned them with WD40, a green scrubby, and a tooth brush. Now they seem to be working, at least the pistons move in and back out slightly as they self adjust. The pads and disks dont appear to be warped and the pads still have a good amount of wear on them. I have also bled them. As I didnt know any better at the time I bled them in the same manner as car brakes. I have taken the wheel off and removed the disk and made sure the pistons were working properly. There doesnt seem to be any air in the lines. > Could I have gotten WD40 on the pads? I suppose that is possible. > They seem to work ok on the pre-purchase flight. The aircraft was trailered to its current home. > Any suggestions would be most helpful. > > Thanks in Advance, > Brad > N952DK > > > >


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    Time: 08:25:04 PM PST US
    From: william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Brakes Not holding
    =C2- Brad- WD-40 will creep everywhere.=C2- Get a couple of cans of Bra ke Kleen from the auto parts store and thoroughly hose them down.=C2- It' s a common, and cheap, brake parts de-greaser.=C2- Works great.=0A=0A=C2 -=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2 -=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2 -=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- Bill Sullivan=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A________________________________=0A From: Brad Nation <nationcap@comcast .net>=0ATo: Kolb-list <kolb-list@matronics.com> =0ASent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 7:48 PM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: Brakes Not holding=0A =0A=0A--> Kolb -List message posted by: Brad Nation <nationcap@comcast.net>=0A=0AI =99m having problems with my brakes not holding on my MKIII Xtra with a 912 80ph Rotax. They system is dual hydraulic Matco brakes. At first the calip ers weren=99t extending and retracting and I noticed that they were g unned up so I cleaned them with WD40, a green scrubby, and a tooth brush. N ow they seem to be working, at least the pistons move in and back out sligh tly as they self adjust.=C2- The pads and disks don=99t appear to b e warped and the pads still have a good amount of wear on them. I have also bled them. As I didn=99t know any better at the time I bled them in the same manner as car brakes. I have taken the wheel off and removed the d isk and made sure the pistons were working properly. There doesn=99t seem to be any air in the lines.=0ACould I have gotten WD40 on the pads? I suppose that is possible.=0AThey seem to work ok on the pre-purchase flight .=C2- The aircraft was trailered to it=99s current home.=0AAny sugg estions would be most helpful.=0A=0AThanks in Advance,=0ABrad=0AN952DK=0A =========================0A


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    Time: 08:57:54 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Brakes Not holding
    From: Brad Nation <nationcap@comcast.net>
    Albuquerque, NM Sent from my iPad Brad > On Jan 30, 2014, at 20:42, kinne russ <russk50@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Current home is where? > do not archive > >> On Jan 30, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Brad Nation wrote: >> >> >> Im having problems with my brakes not holding on my MKIII Xtra with a 912 80ph Rotax. They system is dual hydraulic Matco brakes. At first the calipers werent extending and retracting and I noticed that they were gunned up so I cleaned them with WD40, a green scrubby, and a tooth brush. Now they seem to be working, at least the pistons move in and back out slightly as they self adjust. The pads and disks dont appear to be warped and the pads still have a good amount of wear on them. I have also bled them. As I didnt know any better at the time I bled them in the same manner as car brakes. I have taken the wheel off and removed the disk and made sure the pistons were working properly. There doesnt seem to be any air in the lines. >> Could I have gotten WD40 on the pads? I suppose that is possible. >> They seem to work ok on the pre-purchase flight. The aircraft was trailered to its current home. >> Any suggestions would be most helpful. >> >> Thanks in Advance, >> Brad >> N952DK > > > > > >




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