---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 03/24/14: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:10 AM - Fun flying by design. (Bob Green) 2. 08:18 AM - Re: Fun flying by design. (b young) 3. 08:45 AM - Re: Fun flying by design. (John Hauck) 4. 08:58 AM - Re: Fun flying by design. (John Hauck) 5. 09:29 AM - Sun and Fun 2014 (John Hauck) 6. 09:46 AM - Kolb Display Site S&F 2014 (John Hauck) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:10:41 AM PST US From: Bob Green Subject: Kolb-List: Fun flying by design. Well said John. Bob G Don't believe Homer Kolb ever had any intention for his airplanes to fly wide open. He was more interested in slower flight, STOL characteristics, and enjoyable flying. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:18:35 AM PST US From: "b young" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fun flying by design. I remember reading that Homer's idea of a good flight was 50 feet above the tree tops at 50 MPH.. I dont know if that was true. but it makes a good story. do not archive boyd young >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't believe Homer Kolb ever had any intention for his airplanes to fly wide open. He was more interested in slower flight, STOL characteristics, and enjoyable flying. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:45:39 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Fun flying by design. Homer shared with me that when he was a child he frequently dreamed of flying by holding his arms out and hopping off the ground. He could fly right over and around the trees with his feet in the leaves. He wanted to build a small aircraft that weighed less than the pilot. He wanted to stay in close contact with the ground so he could observe what was going on. The Ultrastar came close. My Ultrastar stalled consistently at 25 mph, measured with Winter Ventura Operated ASI, which was extremely accurate at low speeds. It worked on vacuum alone, not pressurized and static air which is extremely difficult to calibrate correctly. It could fly low and extremely slow, right down to stall speed which occurred about a half needle width below 25 mph indicated. The huge full span ailerons kept the wings level right through the stall, but loaded up very quickly as speed increased. I complained to Homer about the ailerons loading up. He replied, "Be gentle and the US will do what you want it to do. Don't try to force it." I always remember his words when I fly. Of course when one flies low and very slow, ones does not get very far. I prefer cross country flying. 80 mph cruise in my MKIII is not fast compared to "real" airplanes, but it beats driving by a mile. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama I remember reading that Homer's idea of a good flight was 50 feet above the tree tops at 50 MPH.. I dont know if that was true. but it makes a good story. do not archive boyd young >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't believe Homer Kolb ever had any intention for his airplanes to fly wide open. He was more interested in slower flight, STOL characteristics, and enjoyable flying. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:58:58 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Fun flying by design. I would like to add that Homer was building a 4 motor (electric powered) airplane which he had been designing for many years. The motors were mounted, two forward and two aft, on the sides of the fuselage. They could be rotated by the pilot to provide additional lift on takeoff and landing, allowing near zero touchdown speeds. Homer Kolb, with an 8th grade education, was an exceptional aircraft designer, among many, many other talents. He was taken from us far too soon. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hauck Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 10:45 AM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Fun flying by design. Homer shared with me that when he was a child he frequently dreamed of flying by holding his arms out and hopping off the ground. He could fly right over and around the trees with his feet in the leaves. He wanted to build a small aircraft that weighed less than the pilot. He wanted to stay in close contact with the ground so he could observe what was going on. The Ultrastar came close. My Ultrastar stalled consistently at 25 mph, measured with Winter Ventura Operated ASI, which was extremely accurate at low speeds. It worked on vacuum alone, not pressurized and static air which is extremely difficult to calibrate correctly. It could fly low and extremely slow, right down to stall speed which occurred about a half needle width below 25 mph indicated. The huge full span ailerons kept the wings level right through the stall, but loaded up very quickly as speed increased. I complained to Homer about the ailerons loading up. He replied, "Be gentle and the US will do what you want it to do. Don't try to force it." I always remember his words when I fly. Of course when one flies low and very slow, ones does not get very far. I prefer cross country flying. 80 mph cruise in my MKIII is not fast compared to "real" airplanes, but it beats driving by a mile. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama I remember reading that Homer's idea of a good flight was 50 feet above the tree tops at 50 MPH.. I dont know if that was true. but it makes a good story. do not archive boyd young >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't believe Homer Kolb ever had any intention for his airplanes to fly wide open. He was more interested in slower flight, STOL characteristics, and enjoyable flying. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:29:17 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Kolb-List: Sun and Fun 2014 Kolbers: I'm getting ready to fly down to Lakeland a week from today. Plan to be there through Saturday. Looks like I'll be camping in the Kolb display area again this year. That worked out just fine last year. Saved my poor old knees by not having to walk back and forth from the camping area to the Kolb display. Last year, when I landed at Paradise City, I discovered the UL/Lt Plane camping area was across the runway from the control tower. That meant you had to have an "armed" escort to get from your airplane and tent to the display area. There were no porta potties. No one had a chance to see your airplane unless they were camping there. Not much forethought went into this, much like Oshkosh used to do us UL campers. Hopefully, they have moved the camping area somewhere near the display area so folks can see and enjoy the aircraft of folks who have flown in. Last year only a handful showed up to camp with their airplanes. The Kolb display will be near the main entrance to Paradise City. I'll let you know which side as soon as I hear from Travis. This is the first time Kolb has not been in their regular site, front and center. How many of you all are going to fly or drive to Sun and Fun this year? This will be my 31st consecutive S&F since my first in March 1984. We have come a long ways since those days. Where did all the years go? Ya'll come and see us, john h mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:46:42 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb Display Site S&F 2014 The Kolb display will be LP-041, the first space on the left as you enter the main gate of Paradise City, the light plane/UL area. Be hard to miss, the reason they decided to move from their old homestead. Here is a map of Paradise City: http://www.sun-n-fun.org/files/b7/b703263e-f55a-451d-a909-e4f6e4e56e07.pdf john h mkIII Titus, Alabama ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.