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1. 02:23 AM - (Pat Ladd)
2. 02:23 AM - Re: q (Pat Ladd)
3. 02:23 AM - help (Pat Ladd)
4. 04:00 AM - Re: help (william sullivan)
5. 04:24 AM - Firefly (Ted Cowan)
6. 06:40 AM - Re: q (undoctor)
7. 07:39 AM - Re: help (b young)
8. 07:58 AM - Re: q (Pat Ladd)
9. 09:48 AM - Fw: Picture (Pat Ladd)
10. 11:41 AM - Re: Picture (Rex Rodebush)
11. 03:24 PM - Re: q (Richard Girard)
12. 03:31 PM - Re: Fw: Picture (Richard Girard)
13. 04:59 PM - test (Stuart Harner)
14. 05:10 PM - Re: test (Beauford)
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Hi all,
Because of the withdrawal of support by Microsoft of XP I have installed
Windows 7. This has brought with it a change of e-mail format to Live
Mail which ,of course, is different to the old system. Not better. Just
different.
Can someone tell me please how to wipe out all the previous messages in
a series and just pick out a sentence to give a clue what the subject is
in the message to which a reply is being sent.
Previously I just blocked a sentence and copied and pasted it to my
reply. That doesn`t seem to work any more. the damn thing will insist of
reprinting all the previous messages.
Pat
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Only ONEwing Russ. What are you up to?.
I have heard from a guy who bought my Xtra from the guy to whom I sold it.
You remember that he took the 4 stroke off and replaced it with a 2 stroke.
The present owner has replaced the 4 stroke and the plane has now been
issued with a Certificate of Airworthiness. He is promising to fly down from
his home field to our local fly in later in the year. That will give me a
chance to see the old girl again.
Wx has been super for the last week or so. Chilly wind but blue skies and
good viz. We have the Popham Air Fair the weekend after next and that is
usually reckoned to be the beginning of the season.
We are in the throes of moving house as we have built a bungalow about 100
yards from our present house. Moving in a couple of weeks. This was all
brought on by my cancer and back problems. When we bought the plot nearly 2
years ago I was on 2 sticks and was forced to sell the Xtra because I
couldn`t hack the pulley hauley, carrying fuel etc.
thank goodness I am a lot better but at 85 I shall be glad not to have
staires to contend with.
During the clear out before moving I have found a painting which I had done
many ,many years ago of the syndicate Olympia 2.
Most of the guys flying now don`t know any Oly from a Grunau so I have
offered it to my old Gliding Club to use either as just a pic. on the wall
or as a prize for the Club Ladder Comp or best new pilot or something. They
have asked me to present it at the AGM in a couple of weeks time. That will
be nice. There are one or two members whom I remember from the old days.
Should be fun.
Fair winds
Pat
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From: kinne russ
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 3:22 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: q
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Need some advice on VG's. I need about 60 to put on one wing of an Xtra.
Is one brand much better than another? Anyone have specially good or bad
experience with the various suppliers?
Thanx, Russ K
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Hi all,
Because of the withdrawal of support by Microsoft of XP I have installed
Windows 7. This has brought with it a change of e-mail format to Live
Mail which ,of course, is different to the old system. Not better. Just
different.
Can someone tell me please how to wipe out all the previous messages in
a series and just pick out a sentence to give a clue what the subject is
in the message to which a reply is being sent.
Previously I just blocked a sentence and copied and pasted it to my
reply. That doesn`t seem to work any more. the damn thing will insist of
reprinting all the previous messages.
Pat
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- Pat- Go to the end of the last line that you want to delete, press the
left button on the mouse, and then press and hold the backspace button.-
The cursor will go backwards, wiping out one letter at a time.- Works for
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Been watching and reading. Never flown a firefly but i have a bunch of the rest.
Had an original firestar with a 447. Nice flyer but in the bumps it will wear
you out. Flew a couple of the marks and was impressed. My love goes to the
slingshot although I would not mind having a Kobra. My slingshot started with
a 582 which really was plenty of power. Went to a 912/80hp and am so happy.
Constant climb factor. Best thing about slingshot it lands almost exactly
where you want without excessive glide. Bad fuel filter put me down in field
with less than two hundred ft roll. No problem. Not for the squeemish or faint
of heart to fly. Really sensitive but cuts through the bumps and lumps like
a knife. Cruises at 75-95 if you wish. Enough back seat for smallish person
or full camping gear plus ten gals of gas. Made a mistake in putting two five
gal tanks in back instead of custom fifteen. No complaints or problems. Gotta
get them custom made or buy used now. They are a handfull on the ground with
torque and P factor but not to hard to overcome. I really love the three gals
an hour at 85 mph!!! Dont need vortex generators cause you really DONT want
to float this one in. When it drops its tail and ready to flair, you better
be really close to ground. Just wanted to add to the mix. Ted Cowan slingshot
912 zoom zoom
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> 1. 07:22 AM - q (kinne russ)
> 2. 09:13 AM - Re: Re: Post Your Kolb Pictures (chris davis)
> 3. 09:17 AM - Re: q (Dennis Rowe)
> 4. 12:45 PM - Re: q (Richard Girard)
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> ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
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> Time: 07:22:31 AM PST US
> From: kinne russ <russk50@gmail.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: q
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> List
> Need some advice on VG's. I need about 60 to put on one wing of an Xtra.
> Is one brand much better than another? Anyone have specially good or bad experience
> with the various suppliers?
> Thanx, Russ K
>
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> ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
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> Time: 09:13:19 AM PST US
> From: chris davis <capedavis@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Post Your Kolb Pictures
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> Tony- I was considering a 503 on my Firefly and was discouraged by Kolb a
> s it would take considerable frame stengthing to make the Firefly able to s
> tand the extra power and vibration from the 503 . just an aside to consider
> . Chris=0A=0A=0A-=0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabl
> ed from crash building Firefly=0AOn Monday, April 14, 2014 10:41 PM, George
> Alexander <gtalexander@att.net> wrote:=0A =0A--> Kolb-List message posted
> by: "George Alexander" <gtalexander@att.net>=0A>=0A>=0A>Rick Lewis wrote:
> =0A>> It would be nice to get lots of pictures of many kolbs planes but doe
> sn't seem possible with out multiple searches.- really- is a shame....
> =0A>=0A>=0A>Rick:=0A>Go to- http://images.google.com =0A>Then in the sea
> rch box put:- kolb aircraft=0A>=0A>Plently of pictures=0A>=0A>--------
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> From: Dennis Rowe <rowedenny@windstream.net>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: q
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> John Gilpin a fellow Kolb lister sells VGs, I've heard good things about his.
> Otherwise I have no experience with them.
>
> Dennis "Skid" Rowe
> Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
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>
>> On Apr 18, 2014, at 10:22 AM, kinne russ <russk50@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> List
>> Need some advice on VG's. I need about 60 to put on one wing of an Xtra.
>> Is one brand much better than another? Anyone have specially good or bad experience
> with the various suppliers?
>> Thanx, Russ K
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
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> Time: 12:45:15 PM PST US
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: q
> From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
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> Russ, I bought VG's from Free Bird Innovations on eBay.
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vortex-Generators-Experimental-Aircraft-Ultralight-/200746539447?pt=Motors_Aviation_Parts_Gear&hash=item2ebd6d19b7&vxp=mtr
>
> Good service, can't say if they're any worse or better than others.
>
> Rick Girard
> do not archive
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>
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Dennis Rowe <rowedenny@windstream.net>wrote:
>
>>
>> John Gilpin a fellow Kolb lister sells VGs, I've heard good things about
>> his.
>> Otherwise I have no experience with them.
>>
>> Dennis "Skid" Rowe
>> Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 18, 2014, at 10:22 AM, kinne russ <russk50@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> List
>>> Need some advice on VG's. I need about 60 to put on one wing of an Xtra.
>>> Is one brand much better than another? Anyone have specially good or bad
>> experience with the various suppliers?
>>> Thanx, Russ K
>
>
> --
> Zulu Delta
> Mk IIIC
> Thanks, Homer GBYM
>
> It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
> - Groucho Marx
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> Time: 01:01:15 PM PST US
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: q
> From: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
>
> No guarantee the URLs are still valid, but this is my source list for VGs:
>
>
> - STOLSpeed <http://www.stolspeed.com/>
> - Air Wave <http://www.sportlite103.com/html/vortex_generators.html> and Air
> Wave <http://flyfbi.com/html/vortex_generators.html> and
> AirWave<http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vortex-Generators-Experimental-Aircraft-Ultralight-/200746539447?pt=Motors_Aviation_Parts_Gear&hash=item2ebd6d19b7&vxp=mtr>
> - home-made <http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/Vortex%20Generators.html>
> - LandShorter <http://www.landshorter.com/>
>
>
> -- Robert
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> On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Russ, I bought VG's from Free Bird Innovations on eBay.
>>
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vortex-Generators-Experimental-Aircraft-Ultralight-/200746539447?pt=Motors_Aviation_Parts_Gear&hash=item2ebd6d19b7&vxp=mtr
>>
>> Good service, can't say if they're any worse or better than others.
>>
>> Rick Girard
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Dennis Rowe <rowedenny@windstream.net>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> John Gilpin a fellow Kolb lister sells VGs, I've heard good things about
>>> his.
>>> Otherwise I have no experience with them.
>>>
>>> Dennis "Skid" Rowe
>>> Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Apr 18, 2014, at 10:22 AM, kinne russ <russk50@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
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>>>> List
>>>> Need some advice on VG's. I need about 60 to put on one wing of an Xtra.
>>>> Is one brand much better than another? Anyone have specially good or
>>> bad experience with the various suppliers?
>>>> Thanx, Russ K
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>> Thanks, Homer GBYM
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> Time: 02:28:03 PM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: q
> From: "Arizona Flyer" <heracesthesun@yahoo.com>
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>
> If I ever take the time to install VG's I like the Stolspeed ones. Adhesive backing, no drilling, cleaner nicer look and easier to wash/wax the wings without them catching your brush or towel to much. Here is an article about VG's you might enjoy... http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/FSII%20Vortex%20Generators.html
> Stolspeed... http://www.stolspeed.com/
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> "Life should be lived as a bold adventure, I refuse to tiptoe through life
> just to arrive safely at death"
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> Time: 06:29:49 PM PST US
> From: Dennis Rowe <rowedenny@windstream.net>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: q
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> Stolspeed is John Gilpin's company. He's a stand up guy!
>
> Dennis "Skid" Rowe
> Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
>
>
>> On Apr 18, 2014, at 5:27 PM, "Arizona Flyer" <heracesthesun@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> If I ever take the time to install VG's I like the Stolspeed ones. Adhesive backing, no drilling, cleaner nicer look and easier to wash/wax the wings without them catching your brush or towel to much. Here is an article about VG's you might enjoy... http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/FSII%20Vortex%20Generators.html
>> Stolspeed... http://www.stolspeed.com/
>>
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>> "Life should be lived as a bold adventure, I refuse to tiptoe through life
> just to arrive safely at death"
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Can someone tell me please how to wipe out all the previous messages in a s
eries and just pick out a sentence to give a clue what the subject is in th
e message to which a reply is being sent.
Pat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
pat...
after hitting the reply button.... do a click and drag to highlight the t
ext you want to copy to the new message,,,,,, then hit =9Cctrl c
=9C that will copy the selected text,,, then hit =9Cctrl a
=9D ( select all) that will highlight all of the text in the origin
al message. then hit =9Cctrl v=9D that will paste the text
you want to copy to the new message and eliminate all else that was highlig
hted in the =9Cctrl a =9C step....
it works for me,,, but your side of the pond may have different rules...
boyd young
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Any chance you could take a pic of your painting and email it to us
Kolbers on the list?
Well.... I certainly couldn`t. I will have a word with `she who must be
obeyed`. Wendy is a bit more computer savvy than I am. (its an age
thing)
Pat
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From: wendy ladd
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 4:56 PM
Subject: Picture
Hi David
You asked for the picture of the Oly 2.
I said Wendy would know how to do it! So here it is..............
Pat
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Very nice!
do not archive
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422112#422112
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I second the request to have it posted. I just joined the SSA and started
saving to get my glider rating this summer. It's a cheap add on to a PPL,
just 10 flights and a check ride. Can't wait to get back into thermal
flying.
Rick Girard
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On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Pat Ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Any chance you could take a pic of your painting and email it to us
> Kolbers on the list?
>
> Well.... I certainly couldn`t. I will have a word with `she who must be
> obeyed`. Wendy is a bit more computer savvy than I am. (its an age thing)
>
> Pat
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Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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Patt, I trimmed out the matting to make it a better desktop picture.
Rick Girard
On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Pat Ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>
> *From:* wendy ladd <wm.ladd@btinternet.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 19, 2014 4:56 PM
> *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Picture
>
> Hi David
> You asked for the picture of the Oly 2.
>
> I said Wendy would know how to do it! So here it is..............
>
> Pat
>
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Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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Having problems posting to the list.
This is only a test.
Thanks,
Stuart
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Apparently, yer problems are over, Brother Harner.
Beauford
FF-076
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If you forward this e-mail, please remove my name before sending it... I
promise to do the same for you...
Thanks...
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Harner
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 7:58 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: test
Having problems posting to the list.
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