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Sun 04/20/14


Total Messages Posted: 14



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 03:58 AM - Re: test: Now Poly-Brush (Stuart Harner)
     2. 04:59 AM - 447 Muffler (Herb)
     3. 05:10 AM - Re: test: Now Poly-Brush (kinne russ)
     4. 05:21 AM - Re: help (Richard Pike)
     5. 06:07 AM - Re: Fw: Picture (Pat Ladd)
     6. 06:07 AM - Re: q (Pat Ladd)
     7. 10:49 AM - q (kinne russ)
     8. 02:20 PM - Rock House fly-in (Larry Cottrell)
     9. 03:19 PM - Rock House fly-in (Larry Cottrell)
    10. 07:35 PM - Re: Rock House fly-in (woody)
    11. 07:41 PM - Re: Re: Rock House fly-in (Larry Cottrell)
    12. 08:11 PM - reserve fuel tank test (Larry Cottrell)
    13. 08:43 PM - Re: Rock House fly-in (John Hauck)
    14. 09:10 PM - Re: reserve fuel tank test (John Hauck)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:58:31 AM PST US
    From: "Stuart Harner" <stuart@harnerfarm.net>
    Subject: test: Now Poly-Brush
    Well now this is just getting more and more strange. After seeing this one go through and getting your reply, I posted a new clean message, and it never showed up. So now, I am going to modify the reply from this one to see if my message will go through. Guys, Both Firefly wings are done up through the first brushed on coat of Poly Brush. I have gone through nearly a gallon of Poly Brush getting to this point. I bought the recommended two gallons, but am worried that there won't be enough to finish the plane. Logic says that I would use more as the first coat does most of the sealing and it is used to put the tapes on. However, even using an HVLP sprayer, I am bound to lose some to overspray. I am trying to figure out if I need to buy more, and if so, how much? I don't want to run out and have to wait for order to arrive when it gets warm enough to start spraying. What kinds of coverage did you get out of Poly Brush on your projects? Thanks, Stuart (The more I get done, the more I realize there is to do!) From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Beauford Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 7:09 PM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: test Apparently, yer problems are over, Brother Harner. Beauford FF-076


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    Time: 04:59:07 AM PST US
    From: Herb <herbgh@nctc.com>
    Subject: 447 Muffler
    All I need a good muffler to fit a Kolb Firefly with a 447... Stuart is buying my 13 hour 447 but since it came off of a trike, it has the L shaped muffler...happy to trade this one . Nearly new......Herb


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    Time: 05:10:50 AM PST US
    From: kinne russ <russk50@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: test: Now Poly-Brush
    Stuart I poly-brushed one Xtra wing, two coats, and had quite a bit left over, out of one gallon. I have another gallon, unopened; where are you located? Russ K On Apr 20, 2014, at 6:57 AM, Stuart Harner wrote: > Well now this is just getting more and more strange. > > After seeing this one go through and getting your reply, I posted a new clean message, and it never showed up. So now, I am going to modify the reply from this one to see if my message will go through. > > > > Guys, > > Both Firefly wings are done up through the first brushed on coat of Poly Brush. I have gone through nearly a gallon of Poly Brush getting to this point. I bought the recommended two gallons, but am worried that there won=92t be enough to finish the plane. > > Logic says that I would use more as the first coat does most of the sealing and it is used to put the tapes on. However, even using an HVLP sprayer, I am bound to lose some to overspray. > > I am trying to figure out if I need to buy more, and if so, how much? I don=92t want to run out and have to wait for order to arrive when it gets warm enough to start spraying. > > What kinds of coverage did you get out of Poly Brush on your projects? > > Thanks, > > Stuart > (The more I get done, the more I realize there is to do!) > > > > > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Beauford > Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 7:09 PM > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Kolb-List: test > > Apparently, yer problems are over, Brother Harner=85 > > Beauford > FF-076 > > >


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    Time: 05:21:28 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: help
    From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
    I fought with Live Mail for a couple months, the final straw came as I was using it for our aircraft club email newsletters and it became selective about how many of the Bcc addresses it would send, randomly leaving out 2/3's of the list. Now I use Live Mail only for my incoming unimportant mail accounts, and Thunderbird for the important stuff. -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Kingsport, TN 3TN0 My soul shall be joyful in the LORD; It shall rejoice in His salvation. Psalm 35:9 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422149#422149


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    Time: 06:07:19 AM PST US
    From: "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Fw: Picture
    Good idea. Glad that the pic was good enough. If you pan in close enough you can recognise me from the look of sheer terror on my face. Pat From: Richard Girard Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 11:27 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fw: Picture Patt, I trimmed out the matting to make it a better desktop picture. Rick Girard On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Pat Ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> wrote: From: wendy ladd Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 4:56 PM To: kolb-list@matronics.com Subject: Picture Hi David You asked for the picture of the Oly 2. I said Wendy would know how to do it! So here it is.............. Pat -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx


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    Time: 06:07:29 AM PST US
    From: "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: q
    Hope you like it. Pat From: Richard Girard Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 11:18 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: q I second the request to have it posted. I just joined the SSA and started saving to get my glider rating this summer. It's a cheap add on to a PPL, just 10 flights and a check ride. Can't wait to get back into thermal flying. Rick Girard do not archive On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Pat Ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> wrote: Any chance you could take a pic of your painting and email it to us Kolbers on the list? Well.... I certainly couldn`t. I will have a word with `she who must be obeyed`. Wendy is a bit more computer savvy than I am. (its an age thing) Pat get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx


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    Time: 10:49:59 AM PST US
    From: kinne russ <russk50@gmail.com>
    Subject: q
    Brother Gilpin Could you contact me off-list please? Thanx Russ K do not archive


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    Time: 02:20:35 PM PST US
    Subject: Rock House fly-in
    From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
    We are holding our Rock House fly-in, May 31- June 1, 2014. 42 40.419 N 117 51.198 W . The physical address is 5070 Hwy 95 S, Jordan Valley Oregon. Jordan Valley is the nearest town, but 52 miles away, so if you are planning to come, stock up before you leave what is commonly known as "civilization". There is plenty of room to camp. Bring sunscreen, shade is rare. The area is high Desert, with spectacular, but scattered scenery. Runway elevation is 4000 feet. Runway length is 2800 feet of dirt. There is also a 700 foot cross wind runway. If you are forced by wind to use it, 700 feet is quite long enough. Radio traffic use 123.450. Phone number- 541 586 5030 - call if you plan to attend. Larry Cottrell -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.*


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    Time: 03:19:58 PM PST US
    Subject: Rock House fly-in
    From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
    From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com> Subject: Rock House fly-in **************************************** We are holding our Rock House fly-in, May 31- June 1, 2014. 42 40.419 N 117 51.198 W . The physical address is 5070 Hwy 95 S, Jordan Valley Oregon. Jordan Valley is the nearest town, but 52 miles away, so if you are planning to come, stock up before you leave what is commonly known as "civilization". There is plenty of room to camp. Bring sunscreen, shade is rare. The area is high Desert, with spectacular, but scattered scenery. Runway elevation is 4000 feet. Runway length is 2800 feet of dirt. There is also a 700 foot cross wind runway. If you are forced by wind to use it, 700 feet is quite long enough. Radio traffic use- 123.450. Phone number- 541 586 5030 - call if you plan to attend. Larry Cottrell -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.*


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    Time: 07:35:17 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rock House fly-in
    From: "woody" <n3022.176@gmail.com>
    You don't get much company out there do you? I live in deep south Alabama & haven't seen that much open space in years... Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422176#422176


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    Time: 07:41:28 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rock House fly-in
    From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
    The current thought is that it only takes three days for garbage or company to stink. Its a bit longer here. :-) Larry On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:34 PM, woody <n3022.176@gmail.com> wrote: > > You don't get much company out there do you? > I live in deep south Alabama & haven't seen that much open space in > years... > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422176#422176 > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.*


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    Time: 08:11:49 PM PST US
    Subject: reserve fuel tank test
    From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
    My fuel system consists of two five gallon stock tanks from Kolb. I run both tanks to a selector valve on a small panel located just in front of the throttle. The pickups in each tank are on a piece of fuel line that comes in from the top of each tank, and goes to an in tank fuel filter. It is one that I purchased from Aircraft Spruce and is of the type commonly used in model airplanes. Basically it keeps the lumps out, and also serves the purpose of being able to follow the fuel. ( if you are in a downward angle the filter should run to the front of the tank, or vice versa) From the selector valve the outgoing line goes to a home made gascolator, then to a facet fuel pump and on to the stock diaphragm fuel pump that came with the engine. My EIS is set to trigger the alarm with one gallon of fuel left in the tank. I am running an HKS 700 E on my Firestar II, that gets around 3 gph. at 5200 rpm's. I have about 200 hours on it, and I am pleased with it. I however have never tried an in air restart, nor checked to see just how long or far the plane will fly when the red light begins to blink. This evening was the day to find out. I climbed up to 1500 feet agl and switched to my front tank that had 1.8 showing in the front tank. I took the wife's kitchen timer up with me, and got my Garmin ready to reset the miles when I punched the button. When the alarm went on, I turned the timer on. I was flying at 5600 RPM. Maximum cruise is 5800 rpm's. I wanted the test to be on the conservative side. When the engine quit, I had been flying 16 minutes and had covered 17 miles. Engine restart was a non event. I switched tanks,pulled the throttle all the way back, and the engine fired on the first revolution. No choke necessary. I do not intend to fly on my reserve on purpose, but I did want to know how far I could go if It became necessary. Larry -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.*


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    Time: 08:43:53 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Rock House fly-in
    I plan to be there. However, I won't be flying, again this year. Looking forward to visiting my favorite people and one of my favorite places in CONUS. Here is another photo of the Rock House taken from MKIII, N101AB, in 2011. This is a Kolb friendly airfield for sure. First flew to this part of the world in 2005. Every year thereafter until 2012, except for 2010. We met and made a lot of new friends, rediscovered old friends, since the first Monument Valley Flyin in 2003. Basically, that is what the Rock House Flyin is all about. Friends that were made because of our Kolb aircraft. It has been an amazing journey. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama We are holding our Rock House fly-in, May 31- June 1, 2014. 42 40.419 N 117 51.198 W . The physical address is 5070 Hwy 95 S, Jordan Valley Oregon. Jordan Valley is the nearest town, but 52 miles away, so if you are planning to come, stock up before you leave what is commonly known as "civilization". There is plenty of room to camp. Bring sunscreen, shade is rare. The area is high Desert, with spectacular, but scattered scenery. Runway elevation is 4000 feet. Runway length is 2800 feet of dirt. There is also a 700 foot cross wind runway. If you are forced by wind to use it, 700 feet is quite long enough. Radio traffic use 123.450. Phone number- 541 586 5030 - call if you plan to attend. Larry Cottrell -- If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.


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    Time: 09:10:27 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: reserve fuel tank test
    Good exercise. Don't forget to practice your "actual" dead stick landings. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Cottrell Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 10:11 PM Subject: Kolb-List: reserve fuel tank test My fuel system consists of two five gallon stock tanks from Kolb. I run both tanks to a selector valve on a small panel located just in front of the throttle. The pickups in each tank are on a piece of fuel line that comes in from the top of each tank, and goes to an in tank fuel filter. It is one that I purchased from Aircraft Spruce and is of the type commonly used in model airplanes. Basically it keeps the lumps out, and also serves the purpose of being able to follow the fuel. ( if you are in a downward angle the filter should run to the front of the tank, or vice versa) From the selector valve the outgoing line goes to a home made gascolator, then to a facet fuel pump and on to the stock diaphragm fuel pump that came with the engine. My EIS is set to trigger the alarm with one gallon of fuel left in the tank. I am running an HKS 700 E on my Firestar II, that gets around 3 gph. at 5200 rpm's. I have about 200 hours on it, and I am pleased with it. I however have never tried an in air restart, nor checked to see just how long or far the plane will fly when the red light begins to blink. This evening was the day to find out. I climbed up to 1500 feet agl and switched to my front tank that had 1.8 showing in the front tank. I took the wife's kitchen timer up with me, and got my Garmin ready to reset the miles when I punched the button. When the alarm went on, I turned the timer on. I was flying at 5600 RPM. Maximum cruise is 5800 rpm's. I wanted the test to be on the conservative side. When the engine quit, I had been flying 16 minutes and had covered 17 miles. Engine restart was a non event. I switched tanks,pulled the throttle all the way back, and the engine fired on the first revolution. No choke necessary. I do not intend to fly on my reserve on purpose, but I did want to know how far I could go if It became necessary. Larry -- If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.




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