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1. 05:28 AM - exhaust weight (west1m)
2. 06:34 AM - Re: exhaust weight (Charlie England)
3. 06:48 AM - Re: exhaust weight (west1m)
4. 07:19 AM - Re: exhaust weight (Dennis Rowe)
5. 07:49 AM - Re: exhaust weight (Robert Laird)
6. 08:03 AM - Re: exhaust weight (william sullivan)
7. 02:20 PM - Re: exhaust weight (west1m)
8. 03:58 PM - Re: Re: Uncoordinated flight help! (Richard Girard)
9. 04:04 PM - Re: Need Helmet/Headset Recommendation (Richard Girard)
10. 05:10 PM - Re: Need Helmet/Headset Recommendation (John Hauck)
11. 05:11 PM - Re: exhaust weight (Beauford)
12. 05:12 PM - Re: Re: Uncoordinated flight help! (John Hauck)
13. 05:17 PM - Re: exhaust weight (B Young)
14. 05:18 PM - Re: exhaust weight (Robert Laird)
15. 05:27 PM - Re: exhaust weight (B Young)
16. 05:38 PM - control surface tapes (Stuart Harner)
17. 05:44 PM - Re: exhaust weight (kinne russ)
18. 05:47 PM - Re: exhaust weight (B Young)
19. 05:52 PM - Re: control surface tapes (kinne russ)
20. 06:23 PM - 447 engine to Stuart (Herb)
21. 06:30 PM - Re: control surface tapes (Dennis Rowe)
22. 07:48 PM - Re: Need Helmet/Headset Recommendation (Rick Neilsen)
23. 08:02 PM - Re: Re: exhaust weight (william sullivan)
24. 08:30 PM - Re: Re: Uncoordinated flight help! (Richard Girard)
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Looking to loose a couple of pounds, does anyone make an aluminum exhaust elbow
and muffler? Or is this just too hot for aluminum?
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West1m
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| Subject: | Re: exhaust weight |
On 4/30/2014 7:23 AM, west1m wrote:
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> Looking to loose a couple of pounds, does anyone make an aluminum exhaust elbow
and muffler? Or is this just too hot for aluminum?
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> West1m
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Aluminum melts at less than 1300 degrees F. EGT's are usually higher
than that. Even if it doesn't melt immediately, it will be so weak that
it will certainly fail.
Charlie
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| Subject: | Re: exhaust weight |
Hmmm.. You are so correct, very low melting point. I should have looked that up
before I asked. I didn't think it had such a low melting temp being the rest
of the motor is made of aluminum, like pistons , exhaust ports etc...
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| Subject: | Re: exhaust weight |
Too hot, stick with stock stuff.
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
> On Apr 30, 2014, at 8:23 AM, "west1m" <west1m@hotmail.com> wrote:
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| Subject: | Re: exhaust weight |
Eat just an apple for lunch for two weeks .... you'll lose a couple of
pounds! :-)
On Wednesday, April 30, 2014, Dennis Rowe <rowedenny@windstream.net> wrote:
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> Too hot, stick with stock stuff.
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> Dennis "Skid" Rowe
> Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
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| Subject: | Re: exhaust weight |
- I believe somebody makes a titanium muffler that will fit.=0A=0A--
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=0ALooking to loose a couple of pounds, does anyone make an aluminum exhaus
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| Subject: | Re: exhaust weight |
Titanium... Sounds expensive! Didn't one of the Corvettes have one?
I think I saw one parked up the street...
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| Subject: | Re: Uncoordinated flight help! |
Adam, Attached is the Kolb factory trim tab drawing.
Rick Girard
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Adam Canterbury
<canterbury.adam@gmail.com>wrote:
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> I think I would be well suited to model a new trim tab like yours and go
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Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| Subject: | Re: Need Helmet/Headset Recommendation |
I've flown with ANC headphones and they creep me out. I want headphones
that protect my hearing but still let the airplane talk to me. Old school I
guess.
Rick Girard
do not archive
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>wrote:
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> On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm@gmail.com>wrote:
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>> Adam
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>> do your own research and you will get some good advice from the group. I
>> have walked by the Bose tent hundreds of times, they have a low frequency
>> noise they generate that their headphones (seems like they are one of the
>> best?) do a real good job filtering out. My redrive VW produces a higher
>> frequency noise and Rotax engines are even higher frequency that noise
>> canceling headphone have trouble stopping. I have a Sigtronics headset that
>> I have installed the Headsets noise canceling kit in. It does a fair job
>> but needs help. I wear the in the ear canal ear phones (low profile) under
>> my headsets and the two do a real good job.
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>> Rick Neilsen
>> Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
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>>> Head phones are funny. I have a Sigtronics S45 that works quite well for
>>> me. The reason that they don't work better is that the spring holding the
>>> headset to your head is a little weak. I just installed a strap that will
>>> allow me to pull it tight under my chin, so that it will block more of the
>>> noise. If I did not wear glasses and have a beard, I am sure that it would
>>> do a better job. I did install the gel ear pads, and they helped a lot.
>>>
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> I have a friend that put ANL into the same set and he likes it a lot. It
> is worse than the ones that I have-- to me. He has tried mine and the noise
> is much worse, so its not the headsets, it is my ears, and the frequency. I
> had a DRE anr headset that I sold because it was not as quiet as my Sigs.
> Others swear by them. You are just going to have to try them to see which
> fits you.
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> The Bose are a bit out of my price range, so I cannot comment on them. The
> David Clark are good headsets, but they squeeze my head like a zit, and I
> cannot wear them for very long until it becomes a distraction.
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| Subject: | Need Helmet/Headset Recommendation |
Rick G/Kolbers:
You'll never have a problem letting the airplane talk if it is a Kolb,
no matter what you wear on your head.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
I've flown with ANC headphones and they creep me out. I want headphones
that protect my hearing but still let the airplane talk to me. Old
school I guess.
Rick Girard
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Brother Laird:
Tried the apple lunch thing didn=99t much work
Am beginning to suspect the olives. will report back
later
213 beauford
FF-076
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert Laird
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: exhaust weight
Eat just an apple for lunch for two weeks .... you'll lose a couple of
pounds! :-)
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| Subject: | Re: Uncoordinated flight help! |
Rick G/Kolbers:
I'll be darn. That factory trim tab looks just like the one I posted a
few days ago.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
Adam, Attached is the Kolb factory trim tab drawing.
Rick Girard
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Eating apples for lunch doesn't work as well when you add the filling and
pie crust
Do not archive
Boyd
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| Subject: | Re: exhaust weight |
I said apple, not appletini, good sir! :-)
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Beauford <beauford173@tampabay.rr.com>wrot
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> owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Robert Laird
> *Subject:* Re: Kolb-List: exhaust weight
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| Subject: | Re: exhaust weight |
And good sir, ,, I said when apples resemble Apple pie,,, it don't work
as good as plane oll Apple's from the tree. When u add the sugar corn
starch flower eggs cinnamon and lard,,,, it just don't work fer diet food
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| Subject: | control surface tapes |
OK, I have unsubscribed and re-subscribed to see if the list server will
accept my messages.
Guys,
Did you put tapes over the ribs on the control surfaces of your Kolb's?
I don't see anything in the instructions saying to do so, but I would thing
that anyplace the fabric touches framework there should be a finishing tape.
All the tail feathers on my Firefly are now covered and shrunk. I am ready
to apply perimeter tapes and got to thinking that the ribs on the elevators
and rudder should also be taped.
What say you?
Thanks,
Stuart
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| Subject: | Re: exhaust weight |
Brer Beauford
I think it's those fat ice cubes.
do not archive
Russ K
On Apr 30, 2014, at 8:11 PM, Beauford wrote:
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> Brother Laird:
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> Am beginning to suspect the olives=85. will report back later=85
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> 213 beauford
> FF-076
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> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert Laird
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: exhaust weight
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> Eat just an apple for lunch for two weeks .... you'll lose a couple
of pounds! :-)
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| Subject: | Re: exhaust weight |
I reassembly that
On Apr 30, 2014 6:46 PM, "kinne russ" <russk50@gmail.com> wrote:
> Brer Beauford
> I think it's those fat ice cubes.
> do not archive
> Russ K
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> On Apr 30, 2014, at 8:11 PM, Beauford wrote:
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> owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Robert Laird
> *Subject:* Re: Kolb-List: exhaust weight
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| Subject: | Re: control surface tapes |
Stuart
I bought a damaged Xtra, built by a very fine craftsman. Wing has
reinforcing tape (1/2" wide) over the fabric and under the big-head
rivets. Then finishing tape over that, and 4" bias tape over leading &
training edges. Flaperons have 1-1/2" tape over all ribs & struts,
bigger tapes over leading/trailing edges. Hope this helps
Russ K
On Apr 30, 2014, at 8:38 PM, Stuart Harner wrote:
> OK, I have unsubscribed and re-subscribed to see if the list server
will accept my messages.
>
> Guys,
>
> Did you put tapes over the ribs on the control surfaces of your
Kolb=92s?
>
> I don=92t see anything in the instructions saying to do so, but I
would thing that anyplace the fabric touches framework there should be a
finishing tape.
>
> All the tail feathers on my Firefly are now covered and shrunk. I am
ready to apply perimeter tapes and got to thinking that the ribs on the
elevators and rudder should also be taped.
>
> What say you?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Stuart
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| Subject: | 447 engine to Stuart |
Stuart bought my 13 hour 447....and did not want the electric start...
any takers? Same 13 hours...right angle starter mount..Made by
GPL...may fit other Rotax engines?
$557 new...apply for discount...:-) Herb
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| Subject: | Re: control surface tapes |
I taped mine
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
> On Apr 30, 2014, at 8:38 PM, "Stuart Harner" <stuart@harnerfarm.net> wrote
:
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> OK, I have unsubscribed and re-subscribed to see if the list server will a
ccept my messages.
>
> Guys,
>
> Did you put tapes over the ribs on the control surfaces of your Kolb
=99s?
>
> I don=99t see anything in the instructions saying to do so, but I wo
uld thing that anyplace the fabric touches framework there should be a finis
hing tape.
>
> All the tail feathers on my Firefly are now covered and shrunk. I am read
y to apply perimeter tapes and got to thinking that the ribs on the elevator
s and rudder should also be taped.
>
> What say you?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Stuart
>
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| Subject: | Re: Need Helmet/Headset Recommendation |
Right on John
Maybe its our age or maybe the damage we have already done to our ears but
having my ears ringing, more than it already do, after a flight is not
something I enjoy. I can hear my engine whispering to me just fine. I can
hear radio transmissions and even recognise their voices. A good ANC
headphone with passive ear phones under them as another layer of noise
reduction is really nice in my Kolb.
Creepy......... is watching someone talk to you and not hearing their voice.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 8:10 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
> Rick G/Kolbers:
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>
> You'll never have a problem letting the airplane talk if it is a Kolb, no
> matter what you wear on your head.
>
>
> john h
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> mkIII
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> Titus, Alabama
>
> I've flown with ANC headphones and they creep me out. I want headphones
> that protect my hearing but still let the airplane talk to me. Old school I
> guess.
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> Rick Girard
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| Subject: | Re: exhaust weight |
- I looked it up once.- Titanium mufflers are made for motorcycles.-
I seem to remember that the price wasn't too bad, compared to Rotax.- Hav
e to check the flow rate, but sounds like one for a 450 would work.=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: Uncoordinated flight help! |
John, I took the tab off "The Plane from Hell" and tried to fly it. It was
okay, if you like flying sideways or getting a big cramp in your left leg
trying to make the airplane fly straight. Put it back per the Kolb plans
and the aircraft was once again easy to fly and keep the yaw string
centered. I only wish I'd been able to put my engine on it and test that
configuration.
Rick
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 7:12 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
> Rick G/Kolbers:
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> I'll be darn. That factory trim tab looks just like the one I posted a
> few days ago.
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> john h
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> mkIII
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> Titus, Alabama
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> Adam, Attached is the Kolb factory trim tab drawing.
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> Rick Girard
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Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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