---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 05/05/14: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:55 AM - Re: Uncoordinated flight help! (racerjerry) 2. 05:15 AM - Re: Re: 447 engine to Stuart (Roy Spangler) 3. 09:41 AM - Re: Uncoordinated flight help! (Rex Rodebush) 4. 11:08 AM - New Tires availabe soon (Nick Cassara) 5. 12:16 PM - Re: Re: Uncoordinated flight help! (Martin Koxxy) 6. 12:20 PM - Re: New Tires availabe soon (Larry Cottrell) 7. 12:25 PM - Re: Re: Uncoordinated flight help! (Larry Cottrell) 8. 02:45 PM - Re: Re: Uncoordinated flight help! (kinne russ) 9. 03:09 PM - Re: Re: Uncoordinated flight help! (B Young) 10. 05:29 PM - Re: Uncoordinated flight help! (Rex Rodebush) 11. 05:32 PM - Re: Uncoordinated flight help! (Rex Rodebush) 12. 06:20 PM - Re: Uncoordinated flight help! (Rex Rodebush) 13. 06:21 PM - Re: Re: Uncoordinated flight help! (kinne russ) 14. 07:57 PM - Re: Re: Uncoordinated flight help! (Richard Girard) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:55:46 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Uncoordinated flight help! From: "racerjerry" Yes, drill bits tend to walk without a starting point/hole. Grab a small strip of oak (I use scrap hardwood flooring) and cut it down to 1 x 3 (or smaller). File (or mill) a very shallow slot across the block to match the radius of your tubing, which I assume is 5/16 diameter. In the center of the shallow slot, drill a hole using a #40 drill bit. Sand and round off all corners of the block on the slotted side. The slot in the block will allow you to locate and center the wooden block over the fabric / tubing and pressing on the block will retard the tendency for the drill bit to walk. It is better to start small with a #40 drill bit used as a pilot drill. Once you have the initial hole, it is very easy to open them up to full rivet size. The hardwood block will eventually wear; but will surely last long enough to complete your task. Good luck. -------- Jerry King Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422813#422813 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:15:08 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: 447 engine to Stuart From: Roy Spangler Go for it ! roy On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 1:00 AM, west1m wrote: > > If Roy has not snatched it up I would be interested in the deeply > discounted price. > Marlon > 651-270-1597 > > -------- > West1m > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422781#422781 > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:41:21 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Uncoordinated flight help! From: "Rex Rodebush" The bullet-type drill bits are great but I have not been able to get them for the past 2-3 years. Couldn't even find them on the internet. If you know of a source let me know. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422841#422841 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:08:44 AM PST US From: "Nick Cassara" Subject: Kolb-List: New Tires availabe soon Hello Kolbers, I visited the Alaska Airmen's Great Alaska Aircraft Gathering over the weekend at Anchorage International Airport. The rep from Desser Tire and Rubber had a soft smooth 8.5 X 6 LSA tire in display. The weight of the tire is 10 lbs. The Rep said they are going to produce a whole line of tundra tires. Sounds like they are going to give Bush Wheels Airstreak tires some competition.They are asking $175 for preorders of the 8.5 X 6. The rep said their prices will be lower than Bush Wheels. There is a fellow in Arizona who has 26" Airstreaks on a Kolbra he is working on. He likes the tall tires and said the it allow he some nice soft landing in the rough country where he flys. Nick Cassara Palmer, Alaska N607AK ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:16:32 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Uncoordinated flight help! From: Martin Koxxy Split-point bits work great. I bought a 10-pack #30s and made it through my entire project (Earthstar eGull). Martin On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Rex Rodebush wrote: > > The bullet-type drill bits are great but I have not been able to get them > for the past 2-3 years. Couldn't even find them on the internet. If you > know of a source let me know. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422841#422841 > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:20:53 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New Tires availabe soon From: Larry Cottrell http://www.desser.com/pressrelease_tundratire.php This is the link to the tire. Larry On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Nick Cassara wrote: > Hello Kolbers, > > > I visited the Alaska Airmen=99s Great Alaska Aircraft Gathering ove r the > weekend at Anchorage International Airport. The rep from Desser Tire and > Rubber had a soft smooth 8.5 X 6 LSA tire in display. The weight of the > tire is 10 lbs. The Rep said they are going to produce a whole line of > tundra tires. Sounds like they are going to give Bush Wheels Airstreak > tires some competitionThey are asking $175 for preorders of the 8.5 X 6. > The rep said their prices will be lower than Bush Wheels. > > > There is a fellow in Arizona who has 26=9D Airstreaks on a Kolbra h e is > working on. He likes the tall tires and said the it allow he some nice so ft > landing in the rough country where he flys. > > > Nick Cassara > > Palmer, Alaska > > > N607AK > > > * > =========== onics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List> =========== =========== om/contribution> =========== > > * > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:25:53 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Uncoordinated flight help! From: Larry Cottrell http://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DW1956-Pilot-16-Piece-Assortment/dp/B0000E6UE1/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1399317758&sr=8-1&keywords=bullet+point+drill+bits Try this link for drill bits. Larry > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Rex Rodebush wrote: > >> >> The bullet-type drill bits are great but I have not been able to get them >> for the past 2-3 years. Couldn't even find them on the internet. 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Bath Industrial Supply, 207 443 9754 Russ K Do not archive On May 5, 2014, at 12:41 PM, Rex Rodebush wrote: > > The bullet-type drill bits are great but I have not been able to get them for the past 2-3 years. Couldn't even find them on the internet. If you know of a source let me know. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422841#422841 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:09:34 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Uncoordinated flight help! From: B Young Item66213 @harbour freight On May 5, 2014 3:51 PM, "kinne russ" wrote: > > Rex > Just today I bought a two-step drill bit; pilot is praps 3/64", then main > part of the drill is 1/8" Cost $16 but it's a double-ender. This what > you're looking for? > Bath Industrial Supply, 207 443 9754 > Russ K > Do not archive > > > On May 5, 2014, at 12:41 PM, Rex Rodebush wrote: > > > > > The bullet-type drill bits are great but I have not been able to get > them for the past 2-3 years. Couldn't even find them on the internet. If > you know of a source let me know. > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422841#422841 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:29:52 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Uncoordinated flight help! From: "Rex Rodebush" Russ, No, the bits I remember were made/sold by Black & Decker. The 1/8" bit had a "mini" bit on the tip probably around 1/32" which made a pilot hole to guide the 1/8" bit into. It was so small it was no problem to drill into a rib tube without it moving around. I think it was called a "Pilot Point" bit? Rex Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422868#422868 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:32:47 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Uncoordinated flight help! From: "Rex Rodebush" Just checked on the net. Looks like Dewalt is making a pilot point bit that looks the same as the old Black and Decker one. Rex Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422869#422869 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:20:24 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Uncoordinated flight help! From: "Rex Rodebush" Russ, I should have read your email closer. Getting too old! Your bit sounds exactly like the ones B & D made only they were single ended and a lot cheaper. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422870#422870 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:21:07 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Uncoordinated flight help! From: kinne russ Sounds like the same bit. These are US-made. Dunno what B&D uses Russ On May 5, 2014, at 8:28 PM, Rex Rodebush wrote: > > Russ, > > No, the bits I remember were made/sold by Black & Decker. The 1/8" bit had a "mini" bit on the tip probably around 1/32" which made a pilot hole to guide the 1/8" bit into. It was so small it was no problem to drill into a rib tube without it moving around. I think it was called a "Pilot Point" bit? > > Rex > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422868#422868 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:57:02 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Uncoordinated flight help! From: Richard Girard Jerry, One way to extend the life of a wood block drill guide is to soak the hole with "Super Glue" and allow it to plasticize the wood. Redrill the hole after the glue dries as the wood fibers will swell. Not as good as a hardened steel drill bushing, but cheaper and easy to make. I used the same trick when I made the floor board for my Mk III on the edges and the attachment holes. When I had the shape drawn out with pencil I soaked the wood all around the periphery. Worked great to keep the birch plywood from chipping. If appearance is important and you plan to varnish or otherwise finish the wood, test a piece of scrap to see how the Super Glue affects the look of the part. The fellow who gave me these tips on Super Glue said that Daimler uses a similar process to get that highly polished look on the wood dash inserts on Mercedes Benz cars. Thanks to Russ K and Larry for the tips on the drill bits. Rick Girard do not archive On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:53 AM, racerjerry wrote: > > Yes, drill bits tend to walk without a starting point/hole. Grab a small > strip of oak (I use scrap hardwood flooring) and cut it down to 1 x 3 (or > smaller). File (or mill) a very shallow slot across the block to match the > radius of your tubing, which I assume is 5/16 diameter. In the center of > the shallow slot, drill a hole using a #40 drill bit. Sand and round off > all corners of the block on the slotted side. The slot in the block will > allow you to locate and center the wooden block over the fabric / tubing > and pressing on the block will retard the tendency for the drill bit to > walk. It is better to start small with a #40 drill bit used as a pilot > drill. Once you have the initial hole, it is very easy to open them up to > full rivet size. The hardwood block will eventually wear; but will surely > last long enough to complete your task. Good luck. > > -------- > Jerry King > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422813#422813 > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.