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1. 11:25 AM - Rear housing for a Rotax E- gearbox (Dennis Rowe)
2. 11:51 AM - Re: Rear housing for a Rotax E- gearbox (John Hauck)
3. 01:38 PM - Re: Rear housing for a Rotax E- gearbox (Roy Spangler)
4. 02:09 PM - Dual Stick Postion and Movement (nationcap@comcast.net)
5. 04:21 PM - Re: Dual Stick Postion and Movement (kinne russ)
6. 04:34 PM - Re: Dual Stick Postion and Movement (james.vanlaak@gmail.com)
7. 04:47 PM - Re: Dual Stick Postion and Movement (B Young)
8. 05:43 PM - firefly fuselage cover question (Stuart Harner)
9. 07:15 PM - Re: Dual Stick Postion and Movement (Brad Nation)
10. 07:26 PM - Re: Dual Stick Postion and Movement (Colin Hudson)
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| Subject: | Rear housing for a Rotax E- gearbox |
Anybody know anyone parting out an E gearbox? I bought a used one with my 670 bottom
end and when prepping the engine last night for the test stand I discovered
a crack that goes half way around the drain plug and it leaks oil.
If I can't find a used housing, I'm going to have to weld it.
Apparently a former owner over torqued the drain plug and cracked the housing.
The engine builder doesn't think it left his shop like that, but that's the third
defect I found in this bottom end since receiving it from him. Also, the crack
has dirty oil in it and is definitely not fresh. Also, the drain plug looks
like it was through a war.
Live and learn.
I know damn well I didn't crack it and it wasn't damaged In shipping as the crate
was in good condition and well protected.
Seriously bummed.
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
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| Subject: | Rear housing for a Rotax E- gearbox |
Dennis:
I feel your pain. Evidently, you are having a case of
"Hauck's luck".
Better days are coming.
john h
mkIII
Rock House, Oregon
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From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Dennis Rowe
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 12:25 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Rear housing for a Rotax E- gearbox
<rowedenny@windstream.net>
Anybody know anyone parting out an E gearbox? I bought a
used one with my 670 bottom end and when prepping the engine
last night for the test stand I discovered a crack that goes
half way around the drain plug and it leaks oil.
If I can't find a used housing, I'm going to have to weld
it.
Apparently a former owner over torqued the drain plug and
cracked the housing.
The engine builder doesn't think it left his shop like that,
but that's the third defect I found in this bottom end since
receiving it from him. Also, the crack has dirty oil in it
and is definitely not fresh. Also, the drain plug looks like
it was through a war.
Live and learn.
I know damn well I didn't crack it and it wasn't damaged In
shipping as the crate was in good condition and well
protected.
Seriously bummed.
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
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Photoshare, and much much more:
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| Subject: | Re: Rear housing for a Rotax E- gearbox |
Mr. Rowe,
In as much as it is not a structural issue consider JB Weld
fyi
roy
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:51 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
> Dennis:
>
> I feel your pain. Evidently, you are having a case of
> "Hauck's luck".
>
> Better days are coming.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Rock House, Oregon
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Dennis Rowe
> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 12:25 PM
> To: Kolb-list
> Subject: Kolb-List: Rear housing for a Rotax E- gearbox
>
> <rowedenny@windstream.net>
>
> Anybody know anyone parting out an E gearbox? I bought a
> used one with my 670 bottom end and when prepping the engine
> last night for the test stand I discovered a crack that goes
> half way around the drain plug and it leaks oil.
> If I can't find a used housing, I'm going to have to weld
> it.
> Apparently a former owner over torqued the drain plug and
> cracked the housing.
> The engine builder doesn't think it left his shop like that,
> but that's the third defect I found in this bottom end since
> receiving it from him. Also, the crack has dirty oil in it
> and is definitely not fresh. Also, the drain plug looks like
> it was through a war.
> Live and learn.
> I know damn well I didn't crack it and it wasn't damaged In
> shipping as the crate was in good condition and well
> protected.
> Seriously bummed.
>
> Dennis "Skid" Rowe
> Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
>
>
> =
> Photoshare, and much much more:
> =
> =
> =
>
>
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| Subject: | Dual Stick Postion and Movement |
Kolbers
My Mark-3 Xtra is fitted with dual sticks. But when seated in the pilot's seat,
the neutral stick position is not centered between the pilot's thighs. Neutral
stick is very close to the pilot's RIGHT inner thigh, which yields plenty of
stick travel to the left, but very limited stick travel to the right. I can't
move my right leg out of the way to the right, as it's blocked by the center
console. Full right stick limit, when it hits my thigh, moves the ailerons only
about 60 to 70 percent of their intended travel. Granted, most of the time I
may not need the full roll authority but in the one instance i.e. wind shear,
I sure would. And I've never seen any flyway sign saying "Danger Wind Sheer Ahead!
Seek Alternate Route" you don't know where there might be one.
I've thought about adjusting the aileron push rods so that the ailerons are centered
when the stick is a bit to the left, but it seems to me that this would
limit the aileron movement as well.
Is this typical to the Xtra dual-stick design?
What have other Xtra owners done to address this?
Thanks -
Brad Nation
Yellowbird1
N952DK
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| Subject: | Re: Dual Stick Postion and Movement |
Brad
I have VERY little Kolb experience, but FWIW -- I've only flown one
dual=stick Kolb, no problem. My immediate thought was 'make a new
stick with an S-curve offset in it'. Should be fairly simple? Bending he
original might make it too short.
Good luck, fair winds,
Russ K
do not archive
On Jun 12, 2014, at 5:08 PM, nationcap@comcast.net wrote:
> Kolbers
>
> My Mark-3 Xtra is fitted with dual sticks. But when seated in the
pilot's seat, the neutral stick position is not centered between the
pilot's thighs. Neutral stick is very close to the pilot's RIGHT inner
thigh, which yields plenty of stick travel to the left, but very limited
stick travel to the right. I can't move my right leg out of the way to
the right, as it's blocked by the center console. Full right stick
limit, when it hits my thigh, moves the ailerons only about 60 to 70
percent of their intended travel. Granted, most of the time I may not
need the full roll authority but in the one instance i.e. wind shear, I
sure would. And I've never seen any flyway sign saying "Danger Wind
Sheer Ahead! Seek Alternate Route" you don't know where there might be
one.
> I've thought about adjusting the aileron push rods so that the
ailerons are centered when the stick is a bit to the left, but it seems
to me that this would limit the aileron movement as well.
>
> Is this typical to the Xtra dual-stick design?
> What have other Xtra owners done to address this?
>
> Thanks -
>
> Brad Nation
> Yellowbird1
> N952DK
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Dual Stick Postion and Movement |
My Extra is just fine on the stick spacing.
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 7:20 PM, kinne russ <russk50@gmail.com> wrote:
> Brad
> I have VERY little Kolb experience, but FWIW -- I've only flown one
> dual=stick Kolb, no problem. My immediate thought was 'make a new stick
> with an S-curve offset in it'. Should be fairly simple? Bending he original
> might make it too short.
> Good luck, fair winds,
> Russ K
> do not archive
>
>
> On Jun 12, 2014, at 5:08 PM, nationcap@comcast.net wrote:
>
> Kolbers
>
> My Mark-3 Xtra is fitted with dual sticks. But when seated in the pilot's
> seat, the neutral stick position is not centered between the pilot's
> thighs. Neutral stick is very close to the pilot's RIGHT inner thigh, which
> yields plenty of stick travel to the left, but very limited stick travel to
> the right. I can't move my right leg out of the way to the right, as it's
> blocked by the center console. Full right stick limit, when it hits my
> thigh, moves the ailerons only about 60 to 70 percent of their intended
> travel. Granted, most of the time I may not need the full roll authority
> but in the one instance i.e. wind shear, I sure would. And I've never seen
> any flyway sign saying "Danger Wind Sheer Ahead! Seek Alternate Route" you
> don't know where there might be one.
> I've thought about adjusting the aileron push rods so that the ailerons
> are centered when the stick is a bit to the left, but it seems to me that
> this would limit the aileron movement as well.
>
> Is this typical to the Xtra dual-stick design?
> What have other Xtra owners done to address this?
>
> Thanks -
>
> Brad Nation
> Yellowbird1
> N952DK
>
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| Subject: | Re: Dual Stick Postion and Movement |
Is there a chance your dual stick assembly was built for the narrower mk
iii classic?
On Jun 12, 2014 3:11 PM, <nationcap@comcast.net> wrote:
> Kolbers
>
> My Mark-3 Xtra is fitted with dual sticks. But when seated in the pilot's
> seat, the neutral stick position is not centered between the pilot's
> thighs. Neutral stick is very close to the pilot's RIGHT inner thigh, which
> yields plenty of stick travel to the left, but very limited stick travel to
> the right. I can't move my right leg out of the way to the right, as it's
> blocked by the center console. Full right stick limit, when it hits my
> thigh, moves the ailerons only about 60 to 70 percent of their intended
> travel. Granted, most of the time I may not need the full roll authority
> but in the one instance i.e. wind shear, I sure would. And I've never seen
> any flyway sign saying "Danger Wind Sheer Ahead! Seek Alternate Route" you
> don't know where there might be one.
> I've thought about adjusting the aileron push rods so that the ailerons
> are centered when the stick is a bit to the left, but it seems to me that
> this would limit the aileron movement as well.
>
> Is this typical to the Xtra dual-stick design?
> What have other Xtra owners done to address this?
>
> Thanks -
>
> Brad Nation
> Yellowbird1
> N952DK
>
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| Subject: | firefly fuselage cover question |
Guys,
While planning the steps needed to cover the fuselage, I have found
something I can't quite get my head around.
At the back of the fuselage where the bolt goes all the way through the flap
slider arms the fuselage cage and the tail boom, I can't figure out how to
attach the fabric.
There are no washers to keep the slider arms from rubbing against the cage.
This concerned me a little when I put it together initially, but the bold
was not long enough to add any washers on either side.
Even though the amount of movement of the slider arms is small, I think it
will eventually wear through the fabric if I cover it all the way to the
bolt hole.
If I don't cover it to the bolt hole but jump diagonally from the lower
longeron to the rear upright, when the fabric is shrunk it will pull away
and leave an ugly opening in the lower corner of fabric.
Can anyone walk me through the steps they used to cover this area?
How about some close up pictures of the fuselage?
My instinct is to buy a longer bolt and put on some washers to keep the
moving parts from wearing though the non-moving parts.
Thanks in advance.
Stuart
Tail feathers and wings are all painted and ready for assembly. Ailerons
are covered and final tapes are being applied.
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| Subject: | Re: Dual Stick Postion and Movement |
How can I tell?
Brad
Yellowbird1
N952DK
On Jun 12, 2014, at 17:47 , B Young <byoungplumbing@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is there a chance your dual stick assembly was built for the narrower
mk iii classic?
>
> On Jun 12, 2014 3:11 PM, <nationcap@comcast.net> wrote:
> Kolbers
>
> My Mark-3 Xtra is fitted with dual sticks. But when seated in the
pilot's seat, the neutral stick position is not centered between the
pilot's thighs. Neutral stick is very close to the pilot's RIGHT inner
thigh, which yields plenty of stick travel to the left, but very limited
stick travel to the right. I can't move my right leg out of the way to
the right, as it's blocked by the center console. Full right stick
limit, when it hits my thigh, moves the ailerons only about 60 to 70
percent of their intended travel. Granted, most of the time I may not
need the full roll authority but in the one instance i.e. wind shear, I
sure would. And I've never seen any flyway sign saying "Danger Wind
Sheer Ahead! Seek Alternate Route" you don't know where there might be
one.
> I've thought about adjusting the aileron push rods so that the
ailerons are centered when the stick is a bit to the left, but it seems
to me that this would limit the aileron movement as well.
>
> Is this typical to the Xtra dual-stick design?
> What have other Xtra owners done to address this?
>
> Thanks -
>
> Brad Nation
> Yellowbird1
> N952DK
>
>
>
> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
> tp://forums.matronics.com
> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Dual Stick Postion and Movement |
I put dual controls in my X-tra. They were adjustable. I could adjust the s
ticks to the proper position. Kept them 6 months and removed them. Hated t
hem, was really disappointed in them. It was difficult to get in the cockpi
t, but the biggest problems were the extra linkage put a lot of play in the c
ontrols. Then add in the short sticks and I couldn't handle the wind shears
. Went back to the larger center stick which is more direct and provides mu
ch more leverage.
Scott Hudson
A&P/ATP
N424AL
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 12, 2014, at 6:47 PM, B Young <byoungplumbing@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Is there a chance your dual stick assembly was built for the narrower mk i
ii classic?
>
>> On Jun 12, 2014 3:11 PM, <nationcap@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Kolbers
>>
>> My Mark-3 Xtra is fitted with dual sticks. But when seated in the pilot'
s seat, the neutral stick position is not centered between the pilot's thigh
s. Neutral stick is very close to the pilot's RIGHT inner thigh, which yield
s plenty of stick travel to the left, but very limited stick travel to the r
ight. I can't move my right leg out of the way to the right, as it's blocke
d by the center console. Full right stick limit, when it hits my thigh, mov
es the ailerons only about 60 to 70 percent of their intended travel. Grante
d, most of the time I may not need the full roll authority but in the one in
stance i.e. wind shear, I sure would. And I've never seen any flyway sign sa
ying "Danger Wind Sheer Ahead! Seek Alternate Route" you don't know where th
ere might be one.
>> I've thought about adjusting the aileron push rods so that the ailerons a
re centered when the stick is a bit to the left, but it seems to me that thi
s would limit the aileron movement as well.
>>
>> Is this typical to the Xtra dual-stick design?
>> What have other Xtra owners done to address this?
>>
>> Thanks -
>>
>> Brad Nation
>> Yellowbird1
>> N952DK
>>
>>
>>
>> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
>> tp://forums.matronics.com
>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>
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