Kolb-List Digest Archive

Wed 07/02/14


Total Messages Posted: 20



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:14 AM - New video (Larry Cottrell)
     2. 04:59 AM - Re: Lithium Batteries (olendorf)
     3. 05:16 AM - Re: Short Field Landings (william sullivan)
     4. 07:03 AM - Re: New video (Brad Nation)
     5. 07:09 AM - Re: Lithium Batteries (Larlaeb)
     6. 07:11 AM - Re: New video (Larlaeb)
     7. 07:24 AM - Re: Short Field Landings (Larlaeb)
     8. 07:42 AM - Re: Re: Short Field Landings (Larry Cottrell)
     9. 08:04 AM - Re: Short Field Landings (Larlaeb)
    10. 08:08 AM - Re: Short Field Landings (Charlie England)
    11. 08:21 AM - Re: Short Field Landings (Larlaeb)
    12. 11:10 AM - videos (b young)
    13. 11:34 AM - Re: videos (Larry Cottrell)
    14. 11:48 AM - Re: videos (B Young)
    15. 11:54 AM - Re: videos (Larlaeb)
    16. 01:45 PM - The FlagFly (undoctor)
    17. 04:02 PM - Re: The FlagFly (Dennis Rowe)
    18. 07:48 PM - Annual (Brad Nation)
    19. 07:51 PM - Rotax 670 test run (Dennis Rowe)
    20. 08:49 PM - Re: Annual (Charlie England)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:14:48 AM PST US
    Subject: New video
    From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
    I have been fooling with the exposure of my Drift camera. I have been unhappy at the quality, which to me didn't seem as good as it could have been. I finally decided to change the exposure of the camera. These two videos are shot with the lens stopped down 2 F stops, and it is better, but the video still seems to be a bit overexposed. Since two F stops are all that is available, I will have to be satisfied with that. The sun can be a bit bright here and the terrain is a bit dull with little contrast sometimes. I did a video of the same area last year, but I flew up the canyon then, and had some problems with raising terrain. This time I decided to start at the top. I also had a camera that only shot in 480, and I wanted to try the change in lens aperture to see if the definition was better. https://vimeo.com/99607014 <https://vimeo.com/99607014?utm_source=email&utm_medium=clip-transcode_complete-finished-20120100&utm_campaign=7701&email_id=Y2xpcF90cmFuc2NvZGVkfDRiZDZkNmU5YzYyMGU0Y2Q2NGNlNmU1YWRmMjViZmNlMzM1fDc2NDA2NDl8MTQwNDE5NjU4MHw3NzAx> Is the first video. It is long enough that I cut it into two parts https://vimeo.com/99607015 <https://vimeo.com/99607015?utm_source=email&utm_medium=clip-transcode_complete-finished-20120100&utm_campaign=7701&email_id=Y2xpcF90cmFuc2NvZGVkfDM0ZjM4NjNmZDk0ZGYwMGM3ZWY1NzE4ODMxZTNhMjVhNTYxfDc2NDA2NDl8MTQwNDE5NjcyMXw3NzAx> This is the second part. Password as always is - owyheeflyer I had looked forward to being able to take some stills through my camera port, and did get a few before my camera battery went dead. Sigh! High winds were forecast for the area later in the morning, but I felt that I could squeeze the flight in before they arrived. By the time of the opening scenes of the first video they were picking up quite a bit, and I was glad to drop down into the canyon where I would be sheltered from most of the wind. When I came out of the canyon the wind was coming up pretty good, and I finally had to drop down to the Sage where the friction slowed the wind enough that I make some headway towards home. My GPS was showing a ground speed of 39 MPH at 1000 feet agl. I like the quality of the recorded video much better, but I am still behind the curve. You might notice a bit of a glitch on the "credit" screen of Part two. The little Firestar handled the winds and the terrain quite well. Larry -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.*


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    Time: 04:59:00 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Lithium Batteries
    From: "olendorf" <olendorf@gmail.com>
    Hmmm. Possibly there is a button cell in there. Time to crack open the owner's manual. Maybe I should just ride it more! Nothing I like more than to ride to the airport and go flying. Good times. -------- Scott Olendorf Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop Schenectady, NY http://sites.google.com/site/kolbfirestar/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425907#425907 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/bikeplane_163.jpg


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    Time: 05:16:36 AM PST US
    From: william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Short Field Landings
    That was very nice. Liked both the control panel, and the inset screen. Do more! do not archive Bill Sullivan -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 7/1/14, Larlaeb <larlaeb@gmail.com> wrote: Subject: Kolb-List: Short Field Landings To: kolb-list@matronics.com Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2014, 10:38 PM "Larlaeb" <larlaeb@gmail.com> Went out this morning and practiced landing a bit. I setup a camera to see what it looked like from the ground side of things.There was basically no wind at ground level and I placed the camera 400 feet from the threshold of the runway.I seldom actually hit the threshold because there are power lines on that end and they make me nervous.On all the landings power was set at idle on the downwind and not touched until I was on the ground.All these were made with full flaps. I'm sharing this not because I think I'm particularly good at it as you can see, but because it was fun to do. Hopefully you won't find it too boring. https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxdXwdWJkFExd2hiWE9fRDRjaXc/edit Thanks, Allan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425895#425895 Forum - - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - List Contribution Web Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin.


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    Time: 07:03:47 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: New video
    From: Brad Nation <nationcap@comcast.net>
    Nice video, again. Thanks for sharing. Do not archive. Sent from my iPad Brad > On Jul 2, 2014, at 0:59, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com> wrote: > > I have been fooling with the exposure of my Drift camera. I have been unha ppy at the quality, which to me didn't seem as good as it could have been. I finally decided to change the exposure of the camera. These two videos are s hot with the lens stopped down 2 F stops, and it is better, but the video st ill seems to be a bit overexposed. Since two F stops are all that is availab le, I will have to be satisfied with that. The sun can be a bit bright here a nd the terrain is a bit dull with little contrast sometimes. > > I did a video of the same area last year, but I flew up the canyon then, a nd had some problems with raising terrain. This time I decided to start at t he top. I also had a camera that only shot in 480, and I wanted to try the c hange in lens aperture to see if the definition was better. > > > https://vimeo.com/99607014 Is the first video. It is long enough that I cut it into two parts > > https://vimeo.com/99607015 This is the second part. Password as always is - owyheeflyer > > I had looked forward to being able to take some stills through my camera p ort, and did get a few before my camera battery went dead. Sigh! > > High winds were forecast for the area later in the morning, but I felt tha t I could squeeze the flight in before they arrived. By the time of the open ing scenes of the first video they were picking up quite a bit, and I was gl ad to drop down into the canyon where I would be sheltered from most of the w ind. When I came out of the canyon the wind was coming up pretty good, and I finally had to drop down to the Sage where the friction slowed the wind eno ugh that I make some headway towards home. My GPS was showing a ground speed of 39 MPH at 1000 feet agl. > > I like the quality of the recorded video much better, but I am still behin d the curve. You might notice a bit of a glitch on the "credit" screen of Pa rt two. > > The little Firestar handled the winds and the terrain quite well. > Larry > > -- > If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email addre ss before sending. > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >


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    Time: 07:09:10 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Lithium Batteries
    From: "Larlaeb" <larlaeb@gmail.com>
    I got my lithium battery a little over a year ago and it's been turning over my 912 very well for all that time. I have had times during the winter and during carburetor tuning when I have had to spin it quite a bit and so far it hasn't failed to to do well. It has also gone through several weeks of not being used and still seems to hold a full charge. I'm not sure how it would do in really cold weather. This information may not be helpful regarding providing ignition for long periods but there do seem to be several types of lithium batteries. Some designed for starting and others for deep cycle for use in powering electric cars and the like. My specs: Weight: 1106 grams (2.44 lb) Voltage (Charged): 13.6V Amperage: 20 Pb-eq A/H Pulse Cranking Amps: 410 CCA Thanks, Allan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425915#425915


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    Time: 07:11:46 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: New video
    From: "Larlaeb" <larlaeb@gmail.com>
    I really love the tours you take us through there in your area of the country. Beautiful, and and there is just nothing like seeing it from the air like that although a lot of it just begs to be hiked, fished and camped. Thanks much for this and all your videos. Enjoyed it a bunch. Allan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425916#425916


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    Time: 07:24:41 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Short Field Landings
    From: "Larlaeb" <larlaeb@gmail.com>
    I've used a number of editing software packages looking for one that is relatively easy to use and still has the features I want. I'm currently using Pinnacle Studio 17 largely because I had a friend who let me see his training video and I have come to like it pretty well but with these things I think it's mainly what you get used to. I tried Corel Video Studio, CyberLink PowerDirector, Avidemux and a few others. I think the Corel was probably the easiest but all of them seem to have strong and weak areas so when I actually purchased one I just chose one with the features I wanted and determined to spend the time to learn it. It's still a struggle because I don't use it often enough to stay up on everything. They all seem to take time to do a decent job and I'm still way back on that curve. Thanks, Allan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425918#425918


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    Time: 07:42:56 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Short Field Landings
    From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
    I liked your video, and thought that the instruments being visible when you were doing the landings was nice. For that particular video especially. With my intended applications, it wouldn't work. I guess what I liked about both your software and mine is the ability to record it in MPEG 4, which seems to be the sharpest format. Perhaps you can do some more videos soon. :-) Larry On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Larlaeb <larlaeb@gmail.com> wrote: > > I've used a number of editing software packages looking for one that is > relatively easy to use and still has the features I want. I'm currently > using Pinnacle Studio 17 largely because I had a friend who let me see his > training video and I have come to like it pretty well but with these things > I think it's mainly what you get used to. I tried Corel Video Studio, > CyberLink PowerDirector, Avidemux and a few others. I think the Corel was > probably the easiest but all of them seem to have strong and weak areas so > when I actually purchased one I just chose one with the features I wanted > and determined to spend the time to learn it. It's still a struggle > because I don't use it often enough to stay up on everything. They all > seem to take time to do a decent job and I'm still way back on that curve. > > Thanks, > Allan > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425918#425918 > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.*


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    Time: 08:04:12 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Short Field Landings
    From: "Larlaeb" <larlaeb@gmail.com>
    The GPS info is just an included file that is combined using the camera software prior to any other editing if desired. I actually think that for what I was trying to do that just a view of the flight instruments would have been more helpful but this looks cool.. lol. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425923#425923


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    Time: 08:08:29 AM PST US
    From: Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Short Field Landings
    On 7/1/2014 9:38 PM, Larlaeb wrote: > > Went out this morning and practiced landing a bit. I setup a camera to see what it looked like from the ground side of things. There was basically no wind at ground level and I placed the camera 400 feet from the threshold of the runway. I seldom actually hit the threshold because there are power lines on that end and they make me nervous. On all the landings power was set at idle on the downwind and not touched until I was on the ground. All these were made with full flaps. I'm sharing this not because I think I'm particularly good at it as you can see, but because it was fun to do. Hopefully you won't find it too boring. > > https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxdXwdWJkFExd2hiWE9fRDRjaXc/edit > > > Thanks, > Allan > Love the format. Seeing the cockpit view, flight data, and the ground perspective at the same time is really nice. On the subject of power lines, have you thought about contacting the power company to have their 'orange balls' added to the lines? They will probably try to charge you, but one of the original members of my airpark pitched it this way: when they asked for payment, he pointed out that the power company owned the lines, and if someone couldn't see them & it caused a crash, the power company would be liable. They installed the balls for free. Charlie


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    Time: 08:21:15 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Short Field Landings
    From: "Larlaeb" <larlaeb@gmail.com>
    Yes that has been discussed with the field management and I have made that suggestion myself. The portion of the field that I was landing on is not actually owned by the airport but is an extension which is privately owned. Typically I land on the 'actual' strip which is another 5 or 6 hundred feet further on. I think the balls would be a great thing to have in any case especially for folks trying to land there who aren't familiar with the place. Thanks, Allan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425926#425926


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    Time: 11:10:44 AM PST US
    From: "b young" <byoungplumbing@gmail.com>
    Subject: videos
    with my last trip up to Larry=99s home,, the rock house,,, I picked up Larry's old tachyon micro hd camera...( don=99t tell him,,, we w ill keep it our secret). on my first video to the Alvord Larry helped me set it up,,, I used Larry's old camera mount, on his plane he mounted it on his right wing strut,,,, I kind of bent it around a bit and mounted it on my left wing strut... it ended up a bit out of level.... when I go t home I made a new camera mount and I am giving it a go. on my first vide o with the new mount is still a bit out of level... sorry I am working on in. my first video is a flight to the Alvord from Larry=99s home. http s://vimeo.com/98587855 and the second is a flight up the Bear river. https://vimeo.com/9974832 1 the password for both is beekeeper hope this all works. boyd y --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protec tion is active. http://www.avast.com


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    Time: 11:34:40 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: videos
    From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
    I liked it Boyd. It is nice to see other parts of the country where other people are flying. The camera seems to do better than I had remembered, but then again, If your terrain is bland, then there is a good chance your pictures might be as well. Yours has some better definition to it than mine. Not much green where I fly. I see that your video was produced with a reduced screen size to it as mine was before I changed video programs. Movie make wasn't that way until just recently, and that was the reason that I bought another program. Perhaps there is a tweak that will make it full screen. If you use "lithium" batteries it will record for about 5 or 6 hours. Larry On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 12:09 PM, b young <byoungplumbing@gmail.com> wrote: > with my last trip up to Larry=99s home,, the rock house,,, I pi cked up > Larry's old tachyon micro hd camera...( don=99t tell him,,, we wil l keep it > our secret). on my first video to the Alvord Larry helped me set it > up,,, I used Larry's old camera mount, on his plane he mounted it on h is > right wing strut,,,, I kind of bent it around a bit and mounted it on my > left wing strut... it ended up a bit out of level.... when I got home I > made a new camera mount and I am giving it a go. on my first video with > the new mount is still a bit out of level... sorry I am working on in. > > my first video is a flight to the Alvord from Larry=99s home. > https://vimeo.com/98587855 > and the second is a flight up the Bear river. > https://vimeo.com/99748321 > > the password for both is beekeeper > > hope this all works. > > boyd y > > > ------------------------------ > <http://www.avast.com/> > > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > <http://www.avast.com/> protection is active. > > * > =========== onics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List> =========== =========== om/contribution> =========== > > * > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.*


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    Time: 11:48:07 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: videos
    From: B Young <byoungplumbing@gmail.com>
    Funny you see what get when I upload in hd. My alvord uploaded In standard deff, with that one I can change the size to larger than the hd video..go figure. I have another In progress, I think I finally got the camera straight. We'll see. Boyd On Jul 2, 2014 12:36 PM, "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell1020@gmail.com> wrote: > I liked it Boyd. It is nice to see other parts of the country where other > people are flying. The camera seems to do better than I had remembered, b ut > then again, If your terrain is bland, then there is a good chance your > pictures might be as well. Yours has some better definition to it than > mine. Not much green where I fly. I see that your video was produced with a > reduced screen size to it as mine was before I changed video programs. > Movie make wasn't that way until just recently, and that was the reason > that I bought another program. Perhaps there is a tweak that will make it > full screen. If you use "lithium" batteries it will record for about 5 or 6 > hours. > Larry > > > On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 12:09 PM, b young <byoungplumbing@gmail.com> wrote : > >> with my last trip up to Larry=99s home,, the rock house,,, I p icked up >> Larry's old tachyon micro hd camera...( don=99t tell him,,, we wi ll keep it >> our secret). on my first video to the Alvord Larry helped me set it >> up,,, I used Larry's old camera mount, on his plane he mounted it on his >> right wing strut,,,, I kind of bent it around a bit and mounted it on m y >> left wing strut... it ended up a bit out of level.... when I got home I >> made a new camera mount and I am giving it a go. on my first video with >> the new mount is still a bit out of level... sorry I am working on in. >> >> my first video is a flight to the Alvord from Larry=99s home. >> https://vimeo.com/98587855 >> and the second is a flight up the Bear river. >> https://vimeo.com/99748321 >> >> the password for both is beekeeper >> >> hope this all works. >> >> boyd y >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> <http://www.avast.com/> >> >> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus >> <http://www.avast.com/> protection is active. >> >> * >> >> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List <http://www. matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List> >> tp://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com> >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution <http://www.matronics.com/ contribution> >> >> * >> >> > > > -- > *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email > address before sending.* > > * > =========== onics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List> =========== =========== om/contribution> =========== > > * > >


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    Time: 11:54:49 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: videos
    From: "Larlaeb" <larlaeb@gmail.com>
    Nice videos and thanks for sharing. My camera mount is a bit crooked too but luckily my plane flies with one wing low so it works out... :D Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425941#425941


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    Time: 01:45:52 PM PST US
    Subject: The FlagFly
    From: undoctor <undoctor@ptd.net>
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    Time: 04:02:22 PM PST US
    From: Dennis Rowe <rowedenny@windstream.net>
    Subject: Re: The FlagFly
    Damn, That's the nicest fly I ever saw. =F0=9F=98=A2=F0=9F=98=A2=F0=9F=98=A2=F0=9F=98=A2=F0=9F=98=A2=F0=9F=98=A2 Dennis "Skid" Rowe Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA > On Jul 2, 2014, at 4:45 PM, undoctor <undoctor@ptd.net> wrote: > > Hi Kolbers, > Some of you are probably aware that my FireFly is listed for sale on Barns tormers but for the rest of you, here goes. > > Last fall, with a newly overhauled engine I took off for the first flight. Before I had enough altitude to return to the strip the engine shut off. I c hose a soybean field to land in thinking the bean plants were 7 or 8" high. > > When I knew I cleared the utility wires along the road I gave it full flap s and flew it onto the beans at about 50 mph. Suddenly I watched the windshi ed support tube come into my face and only soybeans visible through the wind shield. > > My education for the day was that soybeans are over knee deep and the stem s are like twine just before harvest, so my beloved FlagFly became a lawn da rt the instant the mains decended into the beans. > > The engine started first pull about an hour later but sighting through the exhaust port revealed a scored rear cylinder. I had a mechanic tear down th e top end to repair the engine and I stripped the fabric from the cage for a n airframe repairman to do the repair welding but called them both to stop t he work. I love that little sucker so much my only thought initially was to g et her repaired and in the sky again, but made the tough decision to sell it and get a two place. > > At that point it didn't make much sense to pay to have it repaired when th ere are lots of builders who have the skills and would love to fix it and ha ve it for themselves. > > I'll be away until the 8th but if you or someone you know would like a sho t at it, shoot me an email and I will get in touch with evertone when I get h ome. > > Dave Kulp > Bethlehem, PA > FireFly 11DMK > > > > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: b young > Date:07/02/2014 2:09 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kolb-List: videos > > with my last trip up to Larry=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2s home,, the rock hou se,,, I picked up Larry's old tachyon micro hd camera...( don=C3=A2=82 =AC=84=A2t tell him,,, we will keep it our secret). on my first video to the Alvord Larry helped me set it up,,, I used Larry's old camera mou nt, on his plane he mounted it on his right wing strut,,,, I kind of bent i t around a bit and mounted it on my left wing strut... it ended up a bit ou t of level.... when I got home I made a new camera mount and I am giving it a go. on my first video with the new mount is still a bit out of level... sorry I am working on in. > > my first video is a flight to the Alvord from Larry=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2 s home. https://vimeo.com/98587855 > and the second is a flight up the Bear river. https://vimeo.com/997483 21 > > the password for both is beekeeper > > hope this all works. > > boyd y > > > > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus prote ction is active. > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > > ky=C2=B7=C3=A8=C5=BE=C3=9B"=C3=8D=C3=AD=C5=93=C2=A2Z+=C3=93M4=C3=93G=C3=9A q=C3=A7(=C2=BA=C2=B8=C5=BE=C2=AEw=C2=B0r=B9=C2=AB=B0=C3=C3=93 =C3=A2=C2=A8=A2=C2=B2=C3=A2=C2=B2=C3=91&j)E=C2=A2=C2=BB=C2 R=C3=87=C2=AD=C3=A3=1A=C2=B6=C2=BA'=B0=C3=8B=0B=C5-=C3=8BEy =C2=ABn=C2=AD=C3=AB j=C3=B8 j=C3=9A+=C2=B6-=C3=AB=C2=A3=0B=1E=C2=B6=17 =C2j|=B9=C5-=C3=8Bn=C2=B6)b=C2=B6'=C2=AC=C2=B2=C3=A7!j=C3=82=C3=A2 =C2=B2=C3-'=C3=BD+=BA=C2=B1=C3=8A=C3=A2=C2=C3=98=C2=A8=C5=93 =C3=9C -+=C3=9EI=C3=C2=ABr=10=C3=A8=C3=82yhi=C3=9E=C3=83k k=C2=A3=0B=1E =16 =C2=AD=14=04=0F-=B9h=C2=B2=16=C2=ABy=C2=A9=C3=9D=C5=A1=C3=A7!=C5 =A1=C3=A7!=C5=A1=C5-=C3=9Ej=1A=C3=9E~=1Bm=C2=A7=C3=C3=B0=C3=83 =C5 =A1=C2=B6=C2=BA'=B0=C3=8B=1C=C2=A2o=C3=8Dj=C3=B8 j=C3=9A+*=B0[.+ --=C3=9Bi=C3=C3=BC0=C3=82f=C2=AD=C2=AE=B0=C3=A2r=C3=87( =BA=C3=B3Z=C2=BE(=1A=C2=B6=C5-=C3=8A=C2=A2V=C3=8B=C5-=C3=8B=7Fh=C3=13 D=C3=A3H %=9E=04S=98P=C3=84=99jg =C2=AD=C3=C2=AD r=B0=C3=ADz{Z=93=C3=8A=1A=C2=BD=C2=A8=C2=A5i=C2=B9^=C2=BE&=C2=AD =C3=A5=C5=BElZ+=C2=BAk=1A-=C2=B7=C5=B8-=C3=9Bi=C3 =C3=B7=C3=A8=C2=AE=C3=A9=C2=AC=84=A2=C2=ABk=C2=A2x=C5=93=C2=B1=C3=8A& -=C3=9Bi=C3=C3=B7=C3=A8=C2=AE=C3=A9=C2=AC=84=A2=C2=ABk=C2=A2x=C5=93=C2 =B1=C3=8A&=C3=BD=C2=A2=C3=A2=C2=B2=C3=90=C2=A8=C5=BE=C3=9A=C3=A2n=C3=ABb=C2=A2 u=C5=BEm(=C2=ADy8Z=C5=BEL=C2=A8=C2=B9=C3=BA+=C3=8A=B9=C2=AB=C2=81=C3=A9 =C3=9E=C2=AE=B9=C2=AC=C2=B2=C3i=C2=A2=C2=BBLj=C3=9BC=C2=AD=C2=A9ex=C2 =B8=C2=AC=C2=B4=07f=C5-v=C2=A1=C2=AD=C3=A7=C3=A1=C2=B6=C3=9A=7F=C3=0C0 =84=A2=C2=ABk=C2=A2x=C5=93=C2=B1=C3=8A&=C3=BD=C3=8A'=C2=B6=C2=B8=BA=C2 =BA=C3=98=C2=A8=C5=BE=1Bm=C2=A7=C3=C3=B0=C3=83 =C5=A1=C2=B6=C2=BA' =B0=C3=8B=1C=C2=A2o=C3=9C=C2=A2{k=B0=C2=BB=C2=AD=C5-=B0=C3 k=C3=B6=C3~=B0=C3=AD=C3=BE=C5=A1=C3=9E=C3=BD=C2=BA=1D=C3=8B=C3=B8 m=C5=A1


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    Time: 07:48:32 PM PST US
    From: Brad Nation <nationcap@comcast.net>
    Subject: Annual
    Kolbers, Its time for my first annual on my Xtra. As I purchased the plane I dont have any reference on doing an annual. What can I do myself and what must be done by an A&P? I would think that I should have an A&P do the engine portion. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Brad Nation Yellowbird1 N952DK


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    Time: 07:51:21 PM PST US
    From: Dennis Rowe <rowedenny@windstream.net>
    Subject: Rotax 670 test run
    With Dave Lewis helping out I was able to run the 670 on the Kolb tonight for the first time. If the tach is correct it idles smoothly at 1600. Only revved it to 5k so far but first impressions are positive. Very quiet, and even smoother than the very smooth 690L-70 I took off. Hopefully more run time tomorrow and will see what it'll turn up to wide open. Possibly the extreme smoothness is from ignition timing that may be too retarded. Will have to see how it revs out tomorrow to see if a little advance is in order. Dennis "Skid" Rowe Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA


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    Time: 08:49:49 PM PST US
    From: Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Annual
    On 7/2/2014 9:50 PM, Brad Nation wrote: > > Kolbers, > Its time for my first annual on my Xtra. As I purchased the plane I dont have any reference on doing an annual. What can I do myself and what must be done by an A&P? I would think that I should have an A&P do the engine portion. Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > Brad Nation > Yellowbird1 > N952DK > What kind of a/w cert? If it's experimental homebuilt, the only thing you need an A&P to do is sign off the annual condition inspection. Legally, anyone can do anything else. Repairs, mods, general service, anything. Having said that, it doesn't necessarily mean that just anyone *should*, at least until they gain some experience. Anyone in your area that has experience with Kolbs? If so, they could probably help the A&P, because most A&Ps don't deal with experimentals much. Charlie




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