---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 08/11/14: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:16 AM - Re: another One :-/ (George Alexander) 2. 09:16 AM - Re: Brakes (Richard Girard) 3. 01:01 PM - Re: Brakes (Herb) 4. 07:04 PM - Re: another One :-/ (alienwes) 5. 07:30 PM - Re: Brakes (John Hauck) 6. 09:00 PM - Re: Annual (yellowbird1) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:16:05 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: another One :-/ From: "George Alexander" lcottrell wrote: > I am beginning to think that I might have a problem. I am going to check in to videographers rehab tomorrow. > > Great video, Larry. We're going to have to get you a travel mug for your coffee. Wouldn't want you to spill any. [Laughing] -------- George Alexander FS II R503 N709FS http://www.oh2fly.net Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=428291#428291 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:16:32 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Brakes From: Richard Girard Gregg, I've looked at this option a lot and found two sticklers that always stop me. One, bike brakes tend to be one side only. A right caliper, for instance, is darn near impossible to mount on the left side. Two, the job of the brake is to dissipate heat energy and disk and caliper sizing is done by how much mass you want to stop and hence, how much heat you need to shed. Putting a bike brake on a plane, even an ultralight like the FireFly, is asking it to work with at least twice the mass for which it was designed. Good luck, Rick Girard do not archive On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 1:07 PM, t41pilot wrote: > > It's finally time to stick some brakes on my Firefly and I would like to > attempt to use mountain bike brakes. If anybody is currently using that > type of setup, I could use a couple of photos of your install to help get > me on my way. I plan to use either a stick mount or lever next to me as a > control. I sat in a firefly with the standard heel brakes and being short > in stature, I found them too difficult to operate. Independent brakes are > great but not a must have. I would like to try to fabricate something > instead of buying commercial to save cost and give this retired guy > something to do. I've got a buddy that knows somebody with a Bike shop so > I may be able to get some parts reasonable in cost. > > -------- > Gregg Kaat > 2011 Firefly > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=428242#428242 > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:01:14 PM PST US From: Herb Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Brakes On a Kolb...I would not use the brakes for braking....:-) Just ground handling and in some emergency situation...and to keep from the embarrassing chore of getting out and turning the plane around...Herb On 08/11/2014 11:16 AM, Richard Girard wrote: > Gregg, I've looked at this option a lot and found two sticklers that > always stop me. > One, bike brakes tend to be one side only. A right caliper, for > instance, is darn near impossible to mount on the left side. > Two, the job of the brake is to dissipate heat energy and disk and > caliper sizing is done by how much mass you want to stop and hence, > how much heat you need to shed. Putting a bike brake on a plane, even > an ultralight like the FireFly, is asking it to work with at least > twice the mass for which it was designed. > Good luck, > > Rick Girard > do not archive > > > On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 1:07 PM, t41pilot > wrote: > > > > > It's finally time to stick some brakes on my Firefly and I would > like to attempt to use mountain bike brakes. If anybody is > currently using that type of setup, I could use a couple of > photos of your install to help get me on my way. I plan to use > either a stick mount or lever next to me as a control. I sat in a > firefly with the standard heel brakes and being short in stature, > I found them too difficult to operate. Independent brakes are > great but not a must have. I would like to try to fabricate > something instead of buying commercial to save cost and give this > retired guy something to do. I've got a buddy that knows somebody > with a Bike shop so I may be able to get some parts reasonable in > cost. > > -------- > Gregg Kaat > 2011 Firefly > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=428242#428242 > > > ========== > " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > ========== > MS - > k">http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > e - > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > -- > Zulu Delta > Mk IIIC > Thanks, Homer GBYM > > It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be > unhappy. > - Groucho Marx > > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:04:45 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: another One :-/ From: "alienwes" Thanks for sharing. I think the new camera has a better picture. -------- Wesley Elliott Sport Pilot-PPC Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=428323#428323 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:30:59 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Brakes I haven't tried working with bike brakes on ultralights, but I would think the difference in diameter between a road bike or 29" mountain bike might offset the difference in weight. I wouldn't worry too much about dissipating heat on an aircraft that lands at 30 mph. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Girard Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 11:16 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Brakes Gregg, I've looked at this option a lot and found two sticklers that always stop me. One, bike brakes tend to be one side only. A right caliper, for instance, is darn near impossible to mount on the left side. Two, the job of the brake is to dissipate heat energy and disk and caliper sizing is done by how much mass you want to stop and hence, how much heat you need to shed. Putting a bike brake on a plane, even an ultralight like the FireFly, is asking it to work with at least twice the mass for which it was designed. Good luck, Rick Girard do not archive On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 1:07 PM, t41pilot wrote: It's finally time to stick some brakes on my Firefly and I would like to attempt to use mountain bike brakes. If anybody is currently using that type of setup, I could use a couple of photos of your install to help get me on my way. I plan to use either a stick mount or lever next to me as a control. I sat in a firefly with the standard heel brakes and being short in stature, I found them too difficult to operate. Independent brakes are great but not a must have. I would like to try to fabricate something instead of buying commercial to save cost and give this retired guy something to do. I've got a buddy that knows somebody with a Bike shop so I may be able to get some parts reasonable in cost. -------- Gregg Kaat 2011 Firefly Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=428242#428242 " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List MS - k">http://forums.matronics.com e - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:00:24 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Annual From: "yellowbird1" My kolb is registered as an N numbered experimental -------- Brad Nation, Albuquerque, NM Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=428339#428339 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.