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Tue 08/12/14


Total Messages Posted: 8



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     1. 04:37 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 08/11/14 (Lee)
     2. 08:18 AM - Re: Re: Annual (Richard Girard)
     3. 08:58 AM - Video of me folding my Kolb. Sped up to 46 seconds. (olendorf)
     4. 09:20 AM - Re: Video of me folding my Kolb. Sped up to 46 seconds. (william sullivan)
     5. 01:09 PM - Re: Video of me folding my Kolb. Sped up to 46 seconds. (Larry Cottrell)
     6. 04:29 PM - Re: Re: Annual (Brad Nation)
     7. 04:31 PM - Re: Annual (alienwes)
     8. 07:06 PM - Re: Re: Annual (gliderx5@comcast.net)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:37:17 AM PST US
    From: "Lee" <lmorgan100@charter.net>
    Subject: RE: Kolb-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 08/11/14
    Hi all, I am usually lurking but want to throw in my 2 cents on the bike brakes. I installed a set of Avid hydraulic bike brakes on a mark II Twinstar, I have about 60 hours on them and they have been working great, way better than the cable drum brakes that are on my CGS Hawk or the cable disc brakes that came with Twinstar. I mounted the two brake levers on my control stick and can activate either side or both sides with just my fingers, they do not require as much force as the cable type. Having the handles on the control stick has worked really good for me, I can apply brakes and continue to use the rudder without having to teach my feet to tap dance. anyway that's my 2 cents. Lee -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kolb-List Digest Server Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 3:02 AM Subject: Kolb-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 08/11/14 * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete Kolb-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Kolb-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 14-08-11&Archive=Kolb Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 2014-08-11&Archive=Kolb =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 08/11/14: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:16 AM - Re: another One :-/ (George Alexander) 2. 09:16 AM - Re: Brakes (Richard Girard) 3. 01:01 PM - Re: Brakes (Herb) 4. 07:04 PM - Re: another One :-/ (alienwes) 5. 07:30 PM - Re: Brakes (John Hauck) 6. 09:00 PM - Re: Annual (yellowbird1) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:16:05 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: another One :-/ From: "George Alexander" <gtalexander@att.net> lcottrell wrote: > I am beginning to think that I might have a problem. I am going to check in to videographers rehab tomorrow. > > Great video, Larry. We're going to have to get you a travel mug for your coffee. Wouldn't want you to spill any. [Laughing] -------- George Alexander FS II R503 N709FS http://www.oh2fly.net Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=428291#428291 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:16:32 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Brakes From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> Gregg, I've looked at this option a lot and found two sticklers that always stop me. One, bike brakes tend to be one side only. A right caliper, for instance, is darn near impossible to mount on the left side. Two, the job of the brake is to dissipate heat energy and disk and caliper sizing is done by how much mass you want to stop and hence, how much heat you need to shed. Putting a bike brake on a plane, even an ultralight like the FireFly, is asking it to work with at least twice the mass for which it was designed. Good luck, Rick Girard do not archive On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 1:07 PM, t41pilot <t41pilot@frontier.com> wrote: > > It's finally time to stick some brakes on my Firefly and I would like to > attempt to use mountain bike brakes. If anybody is currently using that > type of setup, I could use a couple of photos of your install to help get > me on my way. I plan to use either a stick mount or lever next to me as a > control. I sat in a firefly with the standard heel brakes and being short > in stature, I found them too difficult to operate. Independent brakes are > great but not a must have. I would like to try to fabricate something > instead of buying commercial to save cost and give this retired guy > something to do. I've got a buddy that knows somebody with a Bike shop so > I may be able to get some parts reasonable in cost. > > -------- > Gregg Kaat > 2011 Firefly > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=428242#428242 > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:01:14 PM PST US From: Herb <herbgh@nctc.com> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Brakes On a Kolb...I would not use the brakes for braking....:-) Just ground handling and in some emergency situation...and to keep from the embarrassing chore of getting out and turning the plane around...Herb On 08/11/2014 11:16 AM, Richard Girard wrote: > Gregg, I've looked at this option a lot and found two sticklers that > always stop me. > One, bike brakes tend to be one side only. A right caliper, for > instance, is darn near impossible to mount on the left side. > Two, the job of the brake is to dissipate heat energy and disk and > caliper sizing is done by how much mass you want to stop and hence, > how much heat you need to shed. Putting a bike brake on a plane, even > an ultralight like the FireFly, is asking it to work with at least > twice the mass for which it was designed. > Good luck, > > Rick Girard > do not archive > > > On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 1:07 PM, t41pilot <t41pilot@frontier.com > <mailto:t41pilot@frontier.com>> wrote: > > <mailto:t41pilot@frontier.com>> > > It's finally time to stick some brakes on my Firefly and I would > like to attempt to use mountain bike brakes. If anybody is > currently using that type of setup, I could use a couple of > photos of your install to help get me on my way. I plan to use > either a stick mount or lever next to me as a control. I sat in a > firefly with the standard heel brakes and being short in stature, > I found them too difficult to operate. Independent brakes are > great but not a must have. I would like to try to fabricate > something instead of buying commercial to save cost and give this > retired guy something to do. I've got a buddy that knows somebody > with a Bike shop so I may be able to get some parts reasonable in > cost. > > -------- > Gregg Kaat > 2011 Firefly > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=428242#428242 > > > ========= > " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > ========= > MS - > k">http://forums.matronics.com > ========= > e - > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========= > > > -- > Zulu Delta > Mk IIIC > Thanks, Homer GBYM > > It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be > unhappy. > - Groucho Marx > > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:04:45 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: another One :-/ From: "alienwes" <elliott.wesley@yahoo.com> Thanks for sharing. I think the new camera has a better picture. -------- Wesley Elliott Sport Pilot-PPC Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=428323#428323 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:30:59 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Brakes I haven't tried working with bike brakes on ultralights, but I would think the difference in diameter between a road bike or 29" mountain bike might offset the difference in weight. I wouldn't worry too much about dissipating heat on an aircraft that lands at 30 mph. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Girard Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 11:16 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Brakes Gregg, I've looked at this option a lot and found two sticklers that always stop me. One, bike brakes tend to be one side only. A right caliper, for instance, is darn near impossible to mount on the left side. Two, the job of the brake is to dissipate heat energy and disk and caliper sizing is done by how much mass you want to stop and hence, how much heat you need to shed. Putting a bike brake on a plane, even an ultralight like the FireFly, is asking it to work with at least twice the mass for which it was designed. Good luck, Rick Girard do not archive On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 1:07 PM, t41pilot <t41pilot@frontier.com> wrote: It's finally time to stick some brakes on my Firefly and I would like to attempt to use mountain bike brakes. If anybody is currently using that type of setup, I could use a couple of photos of your install to help get me on my way. I plan to use either a stick mount or lever next to me as a control. I sat in a firefly with the standard heel brakes and being short in stature, I found them too difficult to operate. Independent brakes are great but not a must have. I would like to try to fabricate something instead of buying commercial to save cost and give this retired guy something to do. I've got a buddy that knows somebody with a Bike shop so I may be able to get some parts reasonable in cost. -------- Gregg Kaat 2011 Firefly Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=428242#428242 " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List MS - k">http://forums.matronics.com e - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:00:24 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Annual From: "yellowbird1" <nationcap@comcast.net> My kolb is registered as an N numbered experimental -------- Brad Nation, Albuquerque, NM Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=428339#428339


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    Time: 08:18:27 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Annual
    From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
    Brad, There are two types of experimental certificates most commonly. One is experimental amateur built (EAB), and the other is experimental light sport aircraft (ELSA). Only the original builder can get a repairman certificate for an EAB so a non-builder owner has to hire an A & P to do the annual conditional inspection. The owner of an ELSA can take a 16 hour class and get a repairman inspection certificate for his/her airplane ONLY. When you get the license from the FAA it will have the N number of your aircraft on it. There's also the off chance that your aircraft is registered experimental exhibition (EE). If you have that you'd be making annual reports to your local FAA Flight Standards District Office (FSDO) outlining what flying you're going to be allowed to do, so I doubt your aircraft is EE, but you should check, just in case. For all you $50, one hour annual folks. Go to FAR 43 Appendix D and take a look at all the things required on an annual and tell me how you check all that in one hour and do the paperwork. Either you've hired Speedy Gonzalez or you're doing a pencil whip. Since you're already in FAR 43, go to 43.12 and contemplate what it says. Take a moment to think about what a lawyer could do to you if there were a crash involving serious injury or loss of life. Think about having everything you've worked for in life taken from you, possibly even your freedom. Still think that $50 looks reasonable? Rick Girard On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 11:00 PM, yellowbird1 <nationcap@comcast.net> wrote: > > My kolb is registered as an N numbered experimental > > -------- > Brad Nation, > Albuquerque, NM > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=428339#428339 > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx


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    Time: 08:58:38 AM PST US
    Subject: Video of me folding my Kolb. Sped up to 46 seconds.
    From: "olendorf" <olendorf@gmail.com>
    I added a sped up video of me folding my Kolb on to YouTube. http://youtu.be/nNyJ5oMBD3o I know, boring, but you don't have to watch it. :) -------- Scott Olendorf Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop Schenectady, NY http://sites.google.com/site/kolbfirestar/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=428369#428369


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    Time: 09:20:56 AM PST US
    From: william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Video of me folding my Kolb. Sped up to 46 seconds.
    Must be the way my ailerons are hinged, but mine don't fold all the way down like that. Mine have to stay up, also to avoid getting tangled with the vacuum line and fuel lines. Bill Sullivan Windsor Locks, Ct. FS 447 -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 8/12/14, olendorf <olendorf@gmail.com> wrote: Subject: Kolb-List: Video of me folding my Kolb. Sped up to 46 seconds. To: kolb-list@matronics.com Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2014, 11:58 AM "olendorf" <olendorf@gmail.com> I added a sped up video of me folding my Kolb on to YouTube. http://youtu.be/nNyJ5oMBD3o Forum - - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - List Contribution Web Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin.


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    Time: 01:09:46 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Video of me folding my Kolb. Sped up to 46 seconds.
    From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
    I didn't find it boring at all. You cut 2 minutes off my best time. Larry On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 9:58 AM, olendorf <olendorf@gmail.com> wrote: > > I added a sped up video of me folding my Kolb on to YouTube. > > http://youtu.be/nNyJ5oMBD3o > > I know, boring, but you don't have to watch it. :) > > -------- > Scott Olendorf > Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop > Schenectady, NY > http://sites.google.com/site/kolbfirestar/ > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=428369#428369 > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.*


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    Time: 04:29:39 PM PST US
    From: Brad Nation <nationcap@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Annual
    It is listed as an EAB. Is it even possible to get the registration changed to ELSA? Brad Nation On Aug 12, 2014, at 9:18 , Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote: > Brad, There are two types of experimental certificates most commonly. One is experimental amateur built (EAB), and the other is experimental light sport aircraft (ELSA). > Only the original builder can get a repairman certificate for an EAB so a non-builder owner has to hire an A & P to do the annual conditional inspection. > The owner of an ELSA can take a 16 hour class and get a repairman inspection certificate for his/her airplane ONLY. When you get the license from the FAA it will have the N number of your aircraft on it. > There's also the off chance that your aircraft is registered experimental exhibition (EE). If you have that you'd be making annual reports to your local FAA Flight Standards District Office (FSDO) outlining what flying you're going to be allowed to do, so I doubt your aircraft is EE, but you should check, just in case. > For all you $50, one hour annual folks. Go to FAR 43 Appendix D and take a look at all the things required on an annual and tell me how you check all that in one hour and do the paperwork. Either you've hired Speedy Gonzalez or you're doing a pencil whip. > Since you're already in FAR 43, go to 43.12 and contemplate what it says. Take a moment to think about what a lawyer could do to you if there were a crash involving serious injury or loss of life. Think about having everything you've worked for in life taken from you, possibly even your freedom. > Still think that $50 looks reasonable? > > Rick Girard > > > On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 11:00 PM, yellowbird1 <nationcap@comcast.net> wrote: > > My kolb is registered as an N numbered experimental > > -------- > Brad Nation, > Albuquerque, NM > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=428339#428339 > > > > > > > > ========== > " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > ========== > MS - > k">http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > e - > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > > > > > -- > Zulu Delta > Mk IIIC > Thanks, Homer GBYM > > It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. > - Groucho Marx > > > >


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    Time: 04:31:55 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Annual
    From: "alienwes" <elliott.wesley@yahoo.com>
    My A and P charges $200 to do my annual on a Powered Parachute. I think its a deal because the local shop at the airport told me $550. Maybe one day I will have a Kolb. :? -------- Wesley Elliott Sport Pilot-PPC Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=428385#428385


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    Time: 07:06:55 PM PST US
    From: gliderx5@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: Annual
    Brad I believe that you cannot change to ELSA. Only airplane kits that have been demonstrated to be SLSA (factory built LSA) and are offered as a kit that cannot be modified at all are eligible to be ELSA. Furthermore, once it's registered EAB it cannot be changed. The only change allowed is for an SLSA to move to ELSA. Malcolm Morrison wienerdogaero.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Nation" <nationcap@comcast.net> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 7:32:41 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Annual It is listed as an EAB. Is it even possible to get the registration changed to ELSA? Brad Nation On Aug 12, 2014, at 9:18 , Richard Girard < aslsa.rng@gmail.com > wrote: Brad, There are two types of experimental certificates most commonly. One is experimental amateur built (EAB), and the other is experimental light sport aircraft (ELSA). Only the original builder can get a repairman certificate for an EAB so a non-builder owner has to hire an A & P to do the annual conditional inspection. The owner of an ELSA can take a 16 hour class and get a repairman inspection certificate for his/her airplane ONLY. When you get the license from the FAA it will have the N number of your aircraft on it. There's also the off chance that your aircraft is registered experimental exhibition (EE). If you have that you'd be making annual reports to your local FAA Flight Standards District Office (FSDO) outlining what flying you're going to be allowed to do, so I doubt your aircraft is EE, but you should check, just in case. For all you $50, one hour annual folks. Go to FAR 43 Appendix D and take a look at all the things required on an annual and tell me how you check all that in one hour and do the paperwork. Either you've hired Speedy Gonzalez or you're doing a pencil whip. Since you're already in FAR 43, go to 43.12 and contemplate what it says. Take a moment to think about what a lawyer could do to you if there were a crash involving serious injury or loss of life. Think about having everything you've worked for in life taken from you, possibly even your freedom. Still think that $50 looks reasonable? Rick Girard On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 11:00 PM, yellowbird1 < nationcap@comcast.net > wrote: <blockquote> My kolb is registered as an N numbered experimental -------- Brad Nation, Albuquerque, NM Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=428339#428339 =========== " target="_blank"> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List =========== MS - k"> http://forums.matronics.com =========== e - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. t="_blank"> http://www.matronics.com/contribution =========== -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx </blockquote>




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