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1. 04:37 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 08/11/14 (Lee)
2. 08:18 AM - Re: Re: Annual (Richard Girard)
3. 08:58 AM - Video of me folding my Kolb. Sped up to 46 seconds. (olendorf)
4. 09:20 AM - Re: Video of me folding my Kolb. Sped up to 46 seconds. (william sullivan)
5. 01:09 PM - Re: Video of me folding my Kolb. Sped up to 46 seconds. (Larry Cottrell)
6. 04:29 PM - Re: Re: Annual (Brad Nation)
7. 04:31 PM - Re: Annual (alienwes)
8. 07:06 PM - Re: Re: Annual (gliderx5@comcast.net)
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Subject: | RE: Kolb-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 08/11/14 |
Hi all,
I am usually lurking but want to throw in my 2 cents on the bike brakes.
I installed a set of Avid hydraulic bike brakes on a mark II Twinstar, I
have about 60 hours on them and they have been working great, way better
than the cable drum brakes that are on my CGS Hawk or the cable disc brakes
that came with Twinstar. I mounted the two brake levers on my control stick
and can activate either side or both sides with just my fingers, they do not
require as much force as the cable type. Having the handles on the control
stick has worked really good for me, I can apply brakes and continue to use
the rudder without having to teach my feet to tap dance.
anyway that's my 2 cents.
Lee
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1. 04:16 AM - Re: another One :-/ (George Alexander)
2. 09:16 AM - Re: Brakes (Richard Girard)
3. 01:01 PM - Re: Brakes (Herb)
4. 07:04 PM - Re: another One :-/ (alienwes)
5. 07:30 PM - Re: Brakes (John Hauck)
6. 09:00 PM - Re: Annual (yellowbird1)
________________________________ Message 1
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Time: 04:16:05 AM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: another One :-/
From: "George Alexander" <gtalexander@att.net>
lcottrell wrote:
> I am beginning to think that I might have a problem. I am going to check
in to
videographers rehab tomorrow.
>
>
Great video, Larry. We're going to have to get you a travel mug for your
coffee.
Wouldn't want you to spill any. [Laughing]
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Time: 09:16:32 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Brakes
From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
Gregg, I've looked at this option a lot and found two sticklers that always
stop me.
One, bike brakes tend to be one side only. A right caliper, for instance,
is darn near impossible to mount on the left side.
Two, the job of the brake is to dissipate heat energy and disk and caliper
sizing is done by how much mass you want to stop and hence, how much heat
you need to shed. Putting a bike brake on a plane, even an ultralight like
the FireFly, is asking it to work with at least twice the mass for which it
was designed.
Good luck,
Rick Girard
do not archive
On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 1:07 PM, t41pilot <t41pilot@frontier.com> wrote:
>
> It's finally time to stick some brakes on my Firefly and I would like to
> attempt to use mountain bike brakes. If anybody is currently using that
> type of setup, I could use a couple of photos of your install to help get
> me on my way. I plan to use either a stick mount or lever next to me as a
> control. I sat in a firefly with the standard heel brakes and being short
> in stature, I found them too difficult to operate. Independent brakes are
> great but not a must have. I would like to try to fabricate something
> instead of buying commercial to save cost and give this retired guy
> something to do. I've got a buddy that knows somebody with a Bike shop so
> I may be able to get some parts reasonable in cost.
>
> --------
> Gregg Kaat
> 2011 Firefly
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=428242#428242
>
>
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Time: 01:01:14 PM PST US
From: Herb <herbgh@nctc.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Brakes
On a Kolb...I would not use the brakes for braking....:-) Just ground
handling and in some emergency situation...and to keep from the
embarrassing chore of getting out and turning the plane around...Herb
On 08/11/2014 11:16 AM, Richard Girard wrote:
> Gregg, I've looked at this option a lot and found two sticklers that
> always stop me.
> One, bike brakes tend to be one side only. A right caliper, for
> instance, is darn near impossible to mount on the left side.
> Two, the job of the brake is to dissipate heat energy and disk and
> caliper sizing is done by how much mass you want to stop and hence,
> how much heat you need to shed. Putting a bike brake on a plane, even
> an ultralight like the FireFly, is asking it to work with at least
> twice the mass for which it was designed.
> Good luck,
>
> Rick Girard
> do not archive
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 1:07 PM, t41pilot <t41pilot@frontier.com
> <mailto:t41pilot@frontier.com>> wrote:
>
> <mailto:t41pilot@frontier.com>>
>
> It's finally time to stick some brakes on my Firefly and I would
> like to attempt to use mountain bike brakes. If anybody is
> currently using that type of setup, I could use a couple of
> photos of your install to help get me on my way. I plan to use
> either a stick mount or lever next to me as a control. I sat in a
> firefly with the standard heel brakes and being short in stature,
> I found them too difficult to operate. Independent brakes are
> great but not a must have. I would like to try to fabricate
> something instead of buying commercial to save cost and give this
> retired guy something to do. I've got a buddy that knows somebody
> with a Bike shop so I may be able to get some parts reasonable in
> cost.
>
> --------
> Gregg Kaat
> 2011 Firefly
>
>
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=428242#428242
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Subject: Kolb-List: Re: another One :-/
From: "alienwes" <elliott.wesley@yahoo.com>
Thanks for sharing. I think the new camera has a better picture.
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Time: 07:30:59 PM PST US
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Brakes
I haven't tried working with bike brakes on ultralights, but I would
think the difference in diameter between a road bike or 29" mountain
bike might offset the difference in weight.
I wouldn't worry too much about dissipating heat on an aircraft that
lands at 30 mph.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Brakes
Gregg, I've looked at this option a lot and found two sticklers that
always stop me.
One, bike brakes tend to be one side only. A right caliper, for
instance, is darn near impossible to mount on the left side.
Two, the job of the brake is to dissipate heat energy and disk and
caliper sizing is done by how much mass you want to stop and hence, how
much heat you need to shed. Putting a bike brake on a plane, even an
ultralight like the FireFly, is asking it to work with at least twice
the mass for which it was designed.
Good luck,
Rick Girard
do not archive
On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 1:07 PM, t41pilot <t41pilot@frontier.com> wrote:
It's finally time to stick some brakes on my Firefly and I would like to
attempt to use mountain bike brakes. If anybody is currently using that
type of setup, I could use a couple of photos of your install to help
get me on my way. I plan to use either a stick mount or lever next to me
as a control. I sat in a firefly with the standard heel brakes and
being short in stature, I found them too difficult to operate.
Independent brakes are great but not a must have. I would like to try to
fabricate something instead of buying commercial to save cost and give
this retired guy something to do. I've got a buddy that knows somebody
with a Bike shop so I may be able to get some parts reasonable in cost.
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Gregg Kaat
2011 Firefly
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Time: 09:00:24 PM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Annual
From: "yellowbird1" <nationcap@comcast.net>
My kolb is registered as an N numbered experimental
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Brad, There are two types of experimental certificates most commonly. One
is experimental amateur built (EAB), and the other is experimental light
sport aircraft (ELSA).
Only the original builder can get a repairman certificate for an EAB so a
non-builder owner has to hire an A & P to do the annual conditional
inspection.
The owner of an ELSA can take a 16 hour class and get a repairman
inspection certificate for his/her airplane ONLY. When you get the license
from the FAA it will have the N number of your aircraft on it.
There's also the off chance that your aircraft is registered experimental
exhibition (EE). If you have that you'd be making annual reports to your
local FAA Flight Standards District Office (FSDO) outlining what flying
you're going to be allowed to do, so I doubt your aircraft is EE, but you
should check, just in case.
For all you $50, one hour annual folks. Go to FAR 43 Appendix D and take a
look at all the things required on an annual and tell me how you check all
that in one hour and do the paperwork. Either you've hired Speedy Gonzalez
or you're doing a pencil whip.
Since you're already in FAR 43, go to 43.12 and contemplate what it says.
Take a moment to think about what a lawyer could do to you if there were a
crash involving serious injury or loss of life. Think about having
everything you've worked for in life taken from you, possibly even your
freedom.
Still think that $50 looks reasonable?
Rick Girard
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 11:00 PM, yellowbird1 <nationcap@comcast.net> wrote:
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> My kolb is registered as an N numbered experimental
>
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Subject: | Video of me folding my Kolb. Sped up to 46 seconds. |
I added a sped up video of me folding my Kolb on to YouTube.
http://youtu.be/nNyJ5oMBD3o
I know, boring, but you don't have to watch it. :)
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Scott Olendorf
Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop
Schenectady, NY
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Subject: | Re: Video of me folding my Kolb. Sped up to 46 seconds. |
Must be the way my ailerons are hinged, but mine don't fold all the way down
like that. Mine have to stay up, also to avoid getting tangled with the vacuum
line and fuel lines.
Bill Sullivan
Windsor Locks, Ct.
FS 447
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Subject: Kolb-List: Video of me folding my Kolb. Sped up to 46 seconds.
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2014, 11:58 AM
"olendorf" <olendorf@gmail.com>
I added a sped up video of me folding my Kolb on to
YouTube.
http://youtu.be/nNyJ5oMBD3o
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Subject: | Re: Video of me folding my Kolb. Sped up to 46 seconds. |
I didn't find it boring at all. You cut 2 minutes off my best time.
Larry
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 9:58 AM, olendorf <olendorf@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I added a sped up video of me folding my Kolb on to YouTube.
>
> http://youtu.be/nNyJ5oMBD3o
>
> I know, boring, but you don't have to watch it. :)
>
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> Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop
> Schenectady, NY
> http://sites.google.com/site/kolbfirestar/
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It is listed as an EAB.
Is it even possible to get the registration changed to ELSA?
Brad Nation
On Aug 12, 2014, at 9:18 , Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote:
> Brad, There are two types of experimental certificates most commonly.
One is experimental amateur built (EAB), and the other is experimental
light sport aircraft (ELSA).
> Only the original builder can get a repairman certificate for an EAB
so a non-builder owner has to hire an A & P to do the annual conditional
inspection.
> The owner of an ELSA can take a 16 hour class and get a repairman
inspection certificate for his/her airplane ONLY. When you get the
license from the FAA it will have the N number of your aircraft on it.
> There's also the off chance that your aircraft is registered
experimental exhibition (EE). If you have that you'd be making annual
reports to your local FAA Flight Standards District Office (FSDO)
outlining what flying you're going to be allowed to do, so I doubt your
aircraft is EE, but you should check, just in case.
> For all you $50, one hour annual folks. Go to FAR 43 Appendix D and
take a look at all the things required on an annual and tell me how you
check all that in one hour and do the paperwork. Either you've hired
Speedy Gonzalez or you're doing a pencil whip.
> Since you're already in FAR 43, go to 43.12 and contemplate what it
says. Take a moment to think about what a lawyer could do to you if
there were a crash involving serious injury or loss of life. Think about
having everything you've worked for in life taken from you, possibly
even your freedom.
> Still think that $50 looks reasonable?
>
> Rick Girard
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 11:00 PM, yellowbird1 <nationcap@comcast.net>
wrote:
>
> My kolb is registered as an N numbered experimental
>
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> Brad Nation,
> Albuquerque, NM
>
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My A and P charges $200 to do my annual on a Powered Parachute. I think its a deal
because the local shop at the airport told me $550. Maybe one day I will have
a Kolb. :?
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Brad
I believe that you cannot change to ELSA. Only airplane kits that have been demonstrated
to be SLSA (factory built LSA) and are offered as a kit that cannot
be modified at all are eligible to be ELSA. Furthermore, once it's registered
EAB it cannot be changed. The only change allowed is for an SLSA to move to ELSA.
Malcolm Morrison
wienerdogaero.com
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From: "Brad Nation" <nationcap@comcast.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 7:32:41 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Annual
It is listed as an EAB.
Is it even possible to get the registration changed to ELSA?
Brad Nation
On Aug 12, 2014, at 9:18 , Richard Girard < aslsa.rng@gmail.com > wrote:
Brad, There are two types of experimental certificates most commonly. One is experimental
amateur built (EAB), and the other is experimental light sport aircraft
(ELSA).
Only the original builder can get a repairman certificate for an EAB so a non-builder
owner has to hire an A & P to do the annual conditional inspection.
The owner of an ELSA can take a 16 hour class and get a repairman inspection certificate
for his/her airplane ONLY. When you get the license from the FAA it
will have the N number of your aircraft on it.
There's also the off chance that your aircraft is registered experimental exhibition
(EE). If you have that you'd be making annual reports to your local FAA
Flight Standards District Office (FSDO) outlining what flying you're going to
be allowed to do, so I doubt your aircraft is EE, but you should check, just in
case.
For all you $50, one hour annual folks. Go to FAR 43 Appendix D and take a look
at all the things required on an annual and tell me how you check all that in
one hour and do the paperwork. Either you've hired Speedy Gonzalez or you're
doing a pencil whip.
Since you're already in FAR 43, go to 43.12 and contemplate what it says. Take
a moment to think about what a lawyer could do to you if there were a crash involving
serious injury or loss of life. Think about having everything you've worked
for in life taken from you, possibly even your freedom.
Still think that $50 looks reasonable?
Rick Girard
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