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4. 06:06 AM - Re: Re: Radio intercom (John Hauck)
5. 06:48 AM - Re: Re: Radio intercom (Dennis Rowe)
6. 06:49 AM - Re: Radio intercom (t41pilot)
7. 08:05 AM - Re: video editing (Denny Baber)
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9. 01:33 PM - Re: Re: Radio intercom (Frank)
10. 01:46 PM - Re: Re: Radio intercom (Frank)
11. 01:48 PM - Re: Re: Radio intercom (Robert Laird)
12. 01:50 PM - Re: Re: Radio intercom (Robert Laird)
13. 01:55 PM - Re: Re: Radio intercom (Frank)
14. 01:57 PM - Re: Re: Radio intercom ()
15. 02:02 PM - Re: Re: Radio intercom (Frank)
16. 02:05 PM - Re: Re: Radio intercom (John Hauck)
17. 03:36 PM - Re: Radio intercom (t41pilot)
18. 04:07 PM - Re: New Kolb Twinstar Owner (Shadow94)
19. 04:45 PM - Re: Re: Radio intercom (George Bearden)
20. 05:44 PM - Re: Re: Radio intercom (Larry Cottrell)
21. 06:32 PM - Re: Re: Radio intercom (B Young)
22. 06:54 PM - Re: Re: Radio intercom (Larry Cottrell)
23. 07:00 PM - Re: Weak gear leg fitting? (woody)
24. 07:01 PM - Re: Re: Radio intercom (B Young)
25. 08:44 PM - FAA question (Larry Cottrell)
26. 09:49 PM - Re: FAA question (Bob)
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| Subject: | Re: Radio intercom |
We both use the older, (affordable) LightSpeed QFR headsets, they are sweet a
nd I believe many here use them with good results. We gave factory 45 degree
antennas under our nose cones with aluminum sheet metal disks on the inside
of the cones for reinforcement. I believe the disks are grounded to the air
frame. My tach and kill switch leads are separately shielded.
No capacitors on the buss.
We get garbled reception, a lot of background noise. Part of my issue may be
in my patch cords to the intercom.
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, Rotax 670,
Leechburg, PA
> Dennis, What are the sucking symptoms? What are you running for an antenna
?
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> Rick Girard
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>> Dave Lewis and myself are having a rough time coming up with a radio inte
rcom set up that works in our Kolbs. His Slingshot is 582 powered and my Mk3
is 670 powered. We both have Icom A4s and I also have an older A21. He uses
single place patch cords with PTT, and I have a Rugged Radio intercom. I am
very happy with the intercom, but our radio transmissions suck.
>> What do you guys use that you are happy with?
>> Also was wondering if anyone has tried the MGL Stratomaster mini radios w
ith a two stroke bird? It seems they work great in the Sonex factory birds.
>>
>> Dennis "Skid" Rowe
>> Mk3, Rotax 670,
>> Leechburg,
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| Subject: | Re: Radio intercom |
I'll check to see if my aluminum plate is grounded to the airframe
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, Rotax 670,
Leechburg, PA
> On Aug 19, 2014, at 11:16 PM, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com> wro
te:
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> I guess I should have read a bit more before I let my fingers do any walki
ng. The best guess is that your antenna is not right or your ground plane is
either non existent, or there is electrical interference.
> Back in my cage,
> Larry
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>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Dennis Rowe <rowedenny@windstream.net> w
rote:
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>> Dave Lewis and myself are having a rough time coming up with a radio inte
rcom set up that works in our Kolbs. His Slingshot is 582 powered and my Mk3
is 670 powered. We both have Icom A4s and I also have an older A21. He uses
single place patch cords with PTT, and I have a Rugged Radio intercom. I am
very happy with the intercom, but our radio transmissions suck.
>> What do you guys use that you are happy with?
>> Also was wondering if anyone has tried the MGL Stratomaster mini radios w
ith a two stroke bird? It seems they work great in the Sonex factory birds.
>>
>> Dennis "Skid" Rowe
>> Mk3, Rotax 670,
>> Leechburg, PA
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| Subject: | Re: Radio intercom |
Pics please, and capacitor specs if possible?
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, Rotax 670,
Leechburg, PA
> On Aug 20, 2014, at 12:41 AM, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com> wro
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> My antenna is made the same way as the one that Richard was talking about,
but mine is mounted under the nose pod and the base is grounded to the floo
r pan for a "ground plane". My plane had a commercial aircraft antenna mount
ed just ahead of it in the nose cone without a ground plane and would not tr
ansmit more than 8 miles. Mounted and grounded to the floor pan my homemade t
ransmits 29 miles with an icom A4 radio. It was a bit scratchy, so I install
ed a large capacitor (per John Hauck) and it now transmits loud and clear. T
he only noise that I hear in it is the quiet click of the strobes.
> Larry
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>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> wro
te:
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>> Last winter we did a number of tests between two Kolbs, the FSII N582EF a
nd the MKIII N420P and discovered some interesting things. One of the things
we did was to use a handheld radio and while the engine was running, and us
ing the handheld radio, move around the airplanes and try and discover where
the engine created the most noise and the worse reception, and the least no
ise and the best reception.
>>
>> We discovered that the best place for minimum noise and best reception wa
s at the top of the vertical fin.
>>
>> Based on that, we relocated the antennas for each airplane to the top of t
he vertical fin.
>>
>> Here are the pictures of the installations for both the MKIII and the FSI
I.
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>> The antenna is made by taking a Radio Shack twist-on male BNC connector, p
art # 278-103 and a length of 1/16" model airplane pushrod steel wire, and c
ombining them like this: take one end of the steel wire, and taper it on a g
rinder until it will fit into the connector until the end just pokes through
the end of the middle terminal connector. Solder it to the connector at tha
t end. Fill the shank up with epoxy, and after it hardens, cut it to about 2
5 inches total length, and trim it to final length while checking an SWR met
er. If you don't have an SWR meter, make it 24 1/4" long total length, base t
o tip, it will work. Put a little curl on the end, or Murphy's Law says some
one will poke it through their eye. Cost? $8. Weight? 2 ounces.
>>
>> Another factor was the headset. I had been using a Softcom headset for a n
umber of years, but unbeknownst to me, it had gone bad. Got a new Gulf Coast
Avionics El Cheapo ANR headset and it helped immensely. Also got an older L
ightspeed ANR headset, and it also improved things immensely. Both are very
good and quite comfortable, and the price in both cases was very reasonable
on ebay. I can call TRI ATC for a comm check and get "5X5, with some backgr
ound noise." Since both airplanes have a Rotax 582 churning away in the back
ground, that sounds reasonable, and a pretty good deal. Before getting the n
ew headsets, TRI ATC said I was unreadable.
>>
>> Hope this is helpful.
>>
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>> Richard Pike
>> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
>> My soul shall be joyful in the LORD; It shall rejoice in His salvation. P
salm 35:9
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| Subject: | Re: Radio intercom |
Dennis/Kolbers,
Use a 25v 22000 mf capacitor, more or less.
Install at or near the reg/rec on the positive wire with neg contact
grounded to airframe.
The capacitor soaks up noise.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Rowe
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 6:30 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Radio intercom
Pics please, and capacitor specs if possible?
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, Rotax 670,
Leechburg, PA
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| Subject: | Re: Radio intercom |
Will give it a try,
Thanks
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, Rotax 670,
Leechburg, PA
> On Aug 20, 2014, at 9:05 AM, "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
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> Dennis/Kolbers,
>
> Use a 25v 22000 mf capacitor, more or less.
>
> Install at or near the reg/rec on the positive wire with neg contact groun
ded to airframe.
>
> The capacitor soaks up noise.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
>
>
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@
matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Rowe
> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 6:30 AM
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Radio intercom
>
> Pics please, and capacitor specs if possible?
>
> Dennis "Skid" Rowe
> Mk3, Rotax 670,
> Leechburg, PA
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| Subject: | Re: Radio intercom |
Here's a link to an MGL document that looks like it would apply to most installs
that addresses radio/antenna/intercom issues. Since I don't trailer my Airplane
and keep it hangared, I opted for a different install that works well for
me. It is homemade as well and is dirt cheap to make. Made in a similar fashion
as previously described and uses a 23.5 inch steel wire. The BNC inside the
boom tube is a right angle variety and is kept as close to the top of the tube
as possible to keep the antenna wire out of my control cables. I have been told
I'm noise free on my transmissions and I occasionally receive transmissions
from 150 miles away. I don't hear any engine noise in the radio. I use a vertex
handheld on a ram mount. I use a radioshack 2,200uf 35volt capacitor mounted
right across my regulator terminals. Bigger is better if you want to install
it differently. 25 volt or greater is the important part.
http://www.mglavionics.co.za/Docs/AIRCRAFT%20RADIO%20INSTALLATION%20-%20rev1-1.pdf
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2011 Firefly
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Look at these also:
http://www.bose.com/controller?url=/shop_online/headphones/noise_cancelling_headphones/quietcomfort_15/index.jsp
http://uflymike.com/
Sincerely,
Denny Baber
baberdk@gmail.com
309-796-2476
Preconceived notions are the locks on the door to wisdom
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| Subject: | Re: Radio intercom |
John & 141 one says to use a 22000
Mf capacitor the other says a 2200.
? Is there a typo? My radio shack
Only has up to 10000 mf. I bought a
2200 dc ,has no positive or neg
Terminal marking. Only 3 bucks.
I'll try it If i don't hear from you guys.
Thanks
Frank G
MK 3 classic
Rotax uls--- lots of radio noise, good radio , garmin sl40
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 20, 2014, at 8:05 AM, "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
> Dennis/Kolbers,
>
> Use a 25v 22000 mf capacitor, more or less.
>
> Install at or near the reg/rec on the positive wire with neg contact groun
ded to airframe.
>
> The capacitor soaks up noise.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
>
>
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@
matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Rowe
> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 6:30 AM
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Radio intercom
>
> Pics please, and capacitor specs if possible?
>
> Dennis "Skid" Rowe
> Mk3, Rotax 670,
> Leechburg, PA
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Radio intercom |
John
Is your capacitor mounted before the
Reg or after?
Thanks Frank
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 20, 2014, at 8:05 AM, "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
> Dennis/Kolbers,
>
> Use a 25v 22000 mf capacitor, more or less.
>
> Install at or near the reg/rec on the positive wire with neg contact groun
ded to airframe.
>
> The capacitor soaks up noise.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
>
>
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@
matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Rowe
> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 6:30 AM
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Radio intercom
>
> Pics please, and capacitor specs if possible?
>
> Dennis "Skid" Rowe
> Mk3, Rotax 670,
> Leechburg, PA
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Radio intercom |
mouser.com has the capacitors you'll need....
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Frank <frank.goodnight@att.net> wrote:
> John & 141 one says to use a 22000
> Mf capacitor the other says a 2200.
> ? Is there a typo? My radio shack
> Only has up to 10000 mf. I bought a
> 2200 dc ,has no positive or neg
> Terminal marking. Only 3 bucks.
> I'll try it If i don't hear from you guys.
> Thanks
> Frank G
> MK 3 classic
> Rotax uls--- lots of radio noise, good radio , garmin sl40
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 20, 2014, at 8:05 AM, "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
>
> Dennis/Kolbers,
>
>
> Use a 25v 22000 mf capacitor, more or less.
>
>
> Install at or near the reg/rec on the positive wire with neg contact
> grounded to airframe.
>
>
> The capacitor soaks up noise.
>
>
> john h
>
> mkIII
>
> Titus, Alabama
>
>
> *From:* owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [
> mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> <owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com>] *On Behalf Of *Dennis Rowe
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 20, 2014 6:30 AM
> *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Kolb-List: Re: Radio intercom
>
>
> Pics please, and capacitor specs if possible?
>
> Dennis "Skid" Rowe
>
> Mk3, Rotax 670,
>
> Leechburg, PA
>
>
> *
>
> ==================================
> ://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List>
> ==================================
> cs.com <http://cs.com>
> ==================================
> matronics.com/contribution <http://matronics.com/contribution>
> ==================================
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Radio intercom |
[image: Inline image 1]
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com> wrote:
> mouser.com has the capacitors you'll need....
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Frank <frank.goodnight@att.net> wrote:
>
>> John & 141 one says to use a 22000
>> Mf capacitor the other says a 2200.
>> ? Is there a typo? My radio shack
>> Only has up to 10000 mf. I bought a
>> 2200 dc ,has no positive or neg
>> Terminal marking. Only 3 bucks.
>> I'll try it If i don't hear from you guys.
>> Thanks
>> Frank G
>> MK 3 classic
>> Rotax uls--- lots of radio noise, good radio , garmin sl40
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 20, 2014, at 8:05 AM, "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dennis/Kolbers,
>>
>>
>>
>> Use a 25v 22000 mf capacitor, more or less.
>>
>>
>>
>> Install at or near the reg/rec on the positive wire with neg contact
>> grounded to airframe.
>>
>>
>>
>> The capacitor soaks up noise.
>>
>>
>>
>> john h
>>
>> mkIII
>>
>> Titus, Alabama
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [
>> mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
>> <owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com>] *On Behalf Of *Dennis Rowe
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 20, 2014 6:30 AM
>> *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Kolb-List: Re: Radio intercom
>>
>>
>>
>> Pics please, and capacitor specs if possible?
>>
>> Dennis "Skid" Rowe
>>
>> Mk3, Rotax 670,
>>
>> Leechburg, PA
>>
>>
>>
>> *
>>
>> ==================================
>> ://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List>
>> ==================================
>> cs.com <http://cs.com>
>> ==================================
>> matronics.com/contribution <http://matronics.com/contribution>
>> ==================================
>>
>> *
>>
>> *
>>
>>
>> *
>>
>>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Radio intercom |
Thanks Robert
Looks like it's 20000 +
Frank
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 20, 2014, at 3:50 PM, Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com> wrote:
>
> <image.png>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com> wrote
:
>> mouser.com has the capacitors you'll need....
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Frank <frank.goodnight@att.net> wrote:
>>> John & 141 one says to use a 22000
>>> Mf capacitor the other says a 2200.
>>> ? Is there a typo? My radio shack
>>> Only has up to 10000 mf. I bought a
>>> 2200 dc ,has no positive or neg
>>> Terminal marking. Only 3 bucks.
>>> I'll try it If i don't hear from you guys.
>>> Thanks
>>> Frank G
>>> MK 3 classic
>>> Rotax uls--- lots of radio noise, good radio , garmin sl40
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Aug 20, 2014, at 8:05 AM, "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dennis/Kolbers,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Use a 25v 22000 mf capacitor, more or less.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Install at or near the reg/rec on the positive wire with neg contact gr
ounded to airframe.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The capacitor soaks up noise.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> john h
>>>>
>>>> mkIII
>>>>
>>>> Titus, Alabama
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-serv
er@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Rowe
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 6:30 AM
>>>> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Radio intercom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Pics please, and capacitor specs if possible?
>>>>
>>>> Dennis "Skid" Rowe
>>>>
>>>> Mk3, Rotax 670,
>>>>
>>>> Leechburg, PA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> =========
>>>> ://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
>>>> =========
>>>> cs.com
>>>> =========
>>>> matronics.com/contribution
>>>> =========
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
>>> tp://forums.matronics.com
>>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Radio intercom |
On the 12VDC side of the reg/rec.
I discovered capacitors way back in my FS days. I wanted 12VDC power for the 447
without a battery. JC Whitney had a dirt bike battery eliminator kit that
included a small capacitor. After flying with it for a while I decided that capacitor
was extra cargo and removed it. Handheld radio was unusable. Replaced
the capacitor and all was fine again.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
---- Frank <frank.goodnight@att.net> wrote:
> John
> Is your capacitor mounted before the
> Reg or after?
> Thanks Frank
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 20, 2014, at 8:05 AM, "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > Dennis/Kolbers,
> >
> > Use a 25v 22000 mf capacitor, more or less.
> >
> > Install at or near the reg/rec on the positive wire with neg contact grounded
to airframe.
> >
> > The capacitor soaks up noise.
> >
> > john h
> > mkIII
> > Titus, Alabama
> >
> >
> > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Rowe
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 6:30 AM
> > To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Radio intercom
> >
> > Pics please, and capacitor specs if possible?
> >
> > Dennis "Skid" Rowe
> > Mk3, Rotax 670,
> > Leechburg, PA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> ===================================
> ===================================
> ===================================
> ===================================
> >
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| Subject: | Re: Radio intercom |
Thanks John
Frank
Do no archive
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 20, 2014, at 3:57 PM, <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
>
> On the 12VDC side of the reg/rec.
>
> I discovered capacitors way back in my FS days. I wanted 12VDC power for the
447 without a battery. JC Whitney had a dirt bike battery eliminator kit that
included a small capacitor. After flying with it for a while I decided that
capacitor was extra cargo and removed it. Handheld radio was unusable. Replaced
the capacitor and all was fine again.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
>
>
> ---- Frank <frank.goodnight@att.net> wrote:
>> John
>> Is your capacitor mounted before the
>> Reg or after?
>> Thanks Frank
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 20, 2014, at 8:05 AM, "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dennis/Kolbers,
>>>
>>> Use a 25v 22000 mf capacitor, more or less.
>>>
>>> Install at or near the reg/rec on the positive wire with neg contact grounded
to airframe.
>>>
>>> The capacitor soaks up noise.
>>>
>>> john h
>>> mkIII
>>> Titus, Alabama
>>>
>>>
>>> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Rowe
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 6:30 AM
>>> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Radio intercom
>>>
>>> Pics please, and capacitor specs if possible?
>>>
>>> Dennis "Skid" Rowe
>>> Mk3, Rotax 670,
>>> Leechburg, PA
>> ===================================
>> ===================================
>> ===================================
>> ===================================
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Radio intercom |
22,000.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frank
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Radio intercom
John & 141 one says to use a 22000
Mf capacitor the other says a 2200.
? Is there a typo? My radio shack
Only has up to 10000 mf. I bought a
2200 dc ,has no positive or neg
Terminal marking. Only 3 bucks.
I'll try it If i don't hear from you guys.
Thanks
Frank G
MK 3 classic
Rotax uls--- lots of radio noise, good radio , garmin sl40
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 20, 2014, at 8:05 AM, "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
Dennis/Kolbers,
Use a 25v 22000 mf capacitor, more or less.
Install at or near the reg/rec on the positive wire with neg contact
grounded to airframe.
The capacitor soaks up noise.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Rowe
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 6:30 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Radio intercom
Pics please, and capacitor specs if possible?
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, Rotax 670,
Leechburg, PA
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| Subject: | Re: Radio intercom |
Frank
My Rotax 447 install manual calls for a capacitor across the regulator a minimum
of 2000 uf. A greater value is certainly better but the greater the value the
larger the physical size. The much larger capacitors were too big to mount directly
to my regulator which is where I wanted to install it so I opted for the
RadioShack part# 272-1048 2200uf. It's working fine for me and mounts directly
across the regulator terminals. You don't have to make a separate ground
that way either. The negative side of the regulator should already be hooked to
ground. I have no noise issues with my radio. Radioshack also has a 4700uf
part# 272-1022 which would be even better. Both capacitors should be available
at the store. If you want to mount the capacitor somewhere else then certainly
opt for the larger capacitors like 20,000uf.
--------
Gregg Kaat
2011 Firefly
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=428910#428910
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| Subject: | Re: New Kolb Twinstar Owner |
Contacted Travis today. No documentation is available. Said he probably couldn't
even find any in the archive. Told me I should have bought a new Kolb kit.
Sounds like things are really hopping at Kolb.
>From what I have read elsewhere on the web, this is the answer I was expecting.
Got an email from a fellow Kolb lister who said he had an almost complete manual.
This looks promising.
Thanks for your reply. Like I said all help is appreciated.
Mark
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| Subject: | Re: Radio intercom |
> Larry said;
"I installed a large capacitor (per John Hauck) and it now transmits loud
and clear. The only noise that I hear in it is the quiet click of the
strobes"
Hope mine sounds that good. That's incredible. I assume the capacitor is
used as a by-pass, from hot to grnd? Do you recall the value?
Sporty's SP-200
ICOM IC-A20
IC-A2
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| Subject: | Re: Radio intercom |
Its the large one, 20-25000, I can't remember and I have it cushioned and
tie wrapped to the side of the cage. There are two screws on the top of the
capacitor. One + one -. The hot wire going to the radio goes to the + and
continues on to the radio. The - goes to the ground bar. The info that some
one furnished earlier says the ground should go straight to the battery
rather than to a common ground. I will have to change that as soon as I can.
Larry
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 5:45 PM, George Bearden <gab16@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > Larry said;
> "I installed a large capacitor (per John Hauck) and it now transmits loud
> and clear. The only noise that I hear in it is the quiet click of the
> strobes"
>
> Hope mine sounds that good. That's incredible. I assume the capacitor is
> used as a by-pass, from hot to grnd? Do you recall the value?
>
> Sporty's SP-200
> ICOM IC-A20
> IC-A2
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Radio intercom |
Another devise that can help is an inductor... a lot of car audio systems
use them... home brew by wrapping a steel nail with the power wire and put
it I am old film canister or small pill bottle. Or wrap the wire around a
ferrite ring.... want belt and suspenders ,, use a smaller capacitor
before and after the inductor. For the right size I'll have to look when
I get home
Boyd
On Aug 20, 2014 6:46 PM, "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell1020@gmail.com> wrote:
> Its the large one, 20-25000, I can't remember and I have it cushioned and
> tie wrapped to the side of the cage. There are two screws on the top of the
> capacitor. One + one -. The hot wire going to the radio goes to the + and
> continues on to the radio. The - goes to the ground bar. The info that some
> one furnished earlier says the ground should go straight to the battery
> rather than to a common ground. I will have to change that as soon as I can.
> Larry
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 5:45 PM, George Bearden <gab16@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> > Larry said;
>> "I installed a large capacitor (per John Hauck) and it now transmits loud
>> and clear. The only noise that I hear in it is the quiet click of the
>> strobes"
>>
>> Hope mine sounds that good. That's incredible. I assume the capacitor is
>> used as a by-pass, from hot to grnd? Do you recall the value?
>>
>> Sporty's SP-200
>> ICOM IC-A20
>> IC-A2
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ==========
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| Subject: | Re: Radio intercom |
I did the ferrite thingys and believe me it is better to go with the
capacitor.
Larry
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:32 PM, B Young <byoungplumbing@gmail.com> wrote:
> Another devise that can help is an inductor... a lot of car audio systems
> use them... home brew by wrapping a steel nail with the power wire and put
> it I am old film canister or small pill bottle. Or wrap the wire around a
> ferrite ring.... want belt and suspenders ,, use a smaller capacitor
> before and after the inductor. For the right size I'll have to look when
> I get home
> Boyd
> On Aug 20, 2014 6:46 PM, "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell1020@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Its the large one, 20-25000, I can't remember and I have it cushioned and
>> tie wrapped to the side of the cage. There are two screws on the top of the
>> capacitor. One + one -. The hot wire going to the radio goes to the + and
>> continues on to the radio. The - goes to the ground bar. The info that some
>> one furnished earlier says the ground should go straight to the battery
>> rather than to a common ground. I will have to change that as soon as I can.
>> Larry
>>
>>
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>>>
>>> > Larry said;
>>> "I installed a large capacitor (per John Hauck) and it now transmits loud
>>> and clear. The only noise that I hear in it is the quiet click of the
>>> strobes"
>>>
>>> Hope mine sounds that good. That's incredible. I assume the capacitor is
>>> used as a by-pass, from hot to grnd? Do you recall the value?
>>>
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| Subject: | Re: Weak gear leg fitting? |
I've posted this before but, I took John Hauck's advise and built my own set of
4130 steel legs for my FSII. They cost about the same as aluminum legs but
I'll bet they last a lot longer.
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: Radio intercom |
I'll bow to your experience
Boyd
Do not archive
On Aug 20, 2014 7:56 PM, "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell1020@gmail.com> wrote:
> I did the ferrite thingys and believe me it is better to go with the
> capacitor.
> Larry
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:32 PM, B Young <byoungplumbing@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Another devise that can help is an inductor... a lot of car audio
>> systems use them... home brew by wrapping a steel nail with the power wire
>> and put it I am old film canister or small pill bottle. Or wrap the wire
>> around a ferrite ring.... want belt and suspenders ,, use a smaller
>> capacitor before and after the inductor. For the right size I'll have to
>> look when I get home
>> Boyd
>> On Aug 20, 2014 6:46 PM, "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Its the large one, 20-25000, I can't remember and I have it cushioned
>>> and tie wrapped to the side of the cage. There are two screws on the top of
>>> the capacitor. One + one -. The hot wire going to the radio goes to the +
>>> and continues on to the radio. The - goes to the ground bar. The info that
>>> some one furnished earlier says the ground should go straight to the
>>> battery rather than to a common ground. I will have to change that as soon
>>> as I can.
>>> Larry
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 5:45 PM, George Bearden <gab16@sbcglobal.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Larry said;
>>>> "I installed a large capacitor (per John Hauck) and it now transmits
>>>> loud
>>>> and clear. The only noise that I hear in it is the quiet click of the
>>>> strobes"
>>>>
>>>> Hope mine sounds that good. That's incredible. I assume the capacitor is
>>>> used as a by-pass, from hot to grnd? Do you recall the value?
>>>>
>>>> Sporty's SP-200
>>>> ICOM IC-A20
>>>> IC-A2
>>>>
>>>>
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I have an acquaintance who is considering buying a plane from a guy who has
not flown off his test hours completely. Is this going to cause more
trouble than it is worth?
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: FAA question |
There have been a number of the EAA Webinars that have touched on this
subject. The answer was always- not a big deal, but the new owner may
not get credit for all the previously flown test hours, and may in fact
sometimes have to start from scratch...depends on you FSDO discretion.
I would call one of the EAA Oshkosh guru=99s who have seen this
many times before....I=99d get their info on the regs and case
histories then make the call to the local Friendly Aviation guy.
Should not be a big problem....
Bob
From: Larry Cottrell
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 8:34 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: FAA question
I have an acquaintance who is considering buying a plane from a guy who
has not flown off his test hours completely. Is this going to cause more
trouble than it is worth?
Larry
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