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1. 06:00 AM - crashed Mark 3 on barstormers (alienwes)
2. 08:16 AM - Radiator shutters? (b young)
3. 10:13 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 11/21/14 (taildrgr60)
4. 10:46 AM - Re: Radiator shutters? (Charlie England)
5. 12:12 PM - The Kolb list is the best.......... (Nick Cassara)
6. 12:48 PM - Re: Radiator shutters? (Jack B. Hart)
7. 05:41 PM - Re: Radiator shutters? (Charlie England)
8. 06:10 PM - Re: Radiator shutters? (Jack B. Hart)
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Subject: | crashed Mark 3 on barstormers |
There's a crashed Mark 3 on barnstormer's. The pictures are interesting and it
looks like the cage protected the pilot pretty well.
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Wesley Elliott
Sport Pilot-PPC
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Subject: | Radiator shutters? |
in the winter I keep a small roll of the aluminum duct tape in the belly of
the plane... and for all intent and purpose,,,, I lick a finger and stick
it in the wind... the more glove I wish I had on the finger is the amount
of tape I put on the radiators..... LOL seems I can get quite close.
my winter time flying has greatly diminished compared to the first couple of
years I had the mark iii.... it seems the radiator needs 25 percent
coverage and the oil cooler 100 percent. and when it is below 20 deg....
I have to tape up both the front and back of the oil cooler if I want to
keep the oil temps in the green.
boyd young
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
But it always had a tendency to run too cool in the winter, and now it is
worse.
An easy fix would be some shutters to block and unblock the main radiator,
cockpit
operated.
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Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 11/21/14 |
Radiator shutter
I am using a car seat motor with limit switches and 2 relays to operate an
aluminum shutter...push button switches and LEDs.
..works well..same basic system for kickstand. Vern Sith
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0. 08:27 AM - [PLEASE READ] Why I Have A Fund Raiser... (Matt Dralle
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1. 12:16 PM - Re: Rotax 447 Intake Silencer Mounting Bracket (plheure
ux)
2. 04:50 PM - Re: Rotax 447 Intake Silencer Mounting Bracket (Richard
Pike)
3. 08:06 PM - Radiator shutters? (Richard Pike)
4. 09:07 PM - Re: Radiator shutters? (Larry Cottrell)
5. 09:22 PM - Re: Radiator shutters? (alienwes)
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Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Rotax 447 Intake Silencer Mounting Bracket
From: "plheureux" <plheureux@aol.com>
I am new to this forum. I will try to attach drawing here.
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Time: 04:50:23 PM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Rotax 447 Intake Silencer Mounting Bracket
From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
Got it=2C thanks!
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport=2C TN 3TN0
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salm 35:9
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Time: 08:06:03 PM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Radiator shutters?
From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
Need some help not reinventing the wheel: For whatever reason=2C my 582 had
a tendency
to run hot in the summer=2C so I added a skinny little dirt bike radiator
to the system and everything was cool. (literally)
But it always had a tendency to run too cool in the winter=2C and now it is
worse.
An easy fix would be some shutters to block and unblock the main radiator
=2C cockpit
operated.
Anybody done that?
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport=2C TN 3TN0
My soul shall be joyful in the LORD=3B It shall rejoice in His salvation. P
salm 35:9
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Time: 09:07:26 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Radiator shutters?
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
It shouldn't be all that hard. I have been using Duct tape to get mine in
the close range. One strip or two=2C but it is a bit less than satisfactory
.
I am thinking a variation of the Venetian blind controlled by a push pull
throttle type cable. My only problem is I am 130 miles from a metal supply.
The question is would you be better off with it in the wind stream in front
of the radiator=2C or behind it to stop the wind flow?
Larry
On Fri=2C Nov 21=2C 2014 at 9:05 PM=2C Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
wrote:
>
> Need some help not reinventing the wheel: For whatever reason=2C my 582 h
ad
> a tendency to run hot in the summer=2C so I added a skinny little dirt bi
ke
> radiator to the system and everything was cool. (literally)
>
> But it always had a tendency to run too cool in the winter=2C and now it
is
> worse. An easy fix would be some shutters to block and unblock the main
> radiator=2C cockpit operated.
>
> Anybody done that?
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport=2C TN 3TN0
> My soul shall be joyful in the LORD=3B It shall rejoice in His salvation.
> Psalm 35:9
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=434325#434325
>
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Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Radiator shutters?
From: "alienwes" <elliott.wesley@yahoo.com>
I had radiator louvers/shutters on my 582 PPC. They worked pretty good. On
my
second 582 I just used black duct tape to block half the radiator during th
e winter.
I honestly think the duct tape is more simple and less results in less
that could fly into the prop if it got loose.
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Sport Pilot-PPC
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Subject: | Re: Radiator shutters? |
On 11/22/2014 10:14 AM, b young wrote:
>
> in the winter I keep a small roll of the aluminum duct tape in the
> belly of the plane... and for all intent and purpose,,,, I lick a
> finger and stick it in the wind... the more glove I wish I had on the
> finger is the amount of tape I put on the radiators..... LOL seems
> I can get quite close. my winter time flying has greatly diminished
> compared to the first couple of years I had the mark iii.... it
> seems the radiator needs 25 percent coverage and the oil cooler 100
> percent. and when it is below 20 deg.... I have to tape up both the
> front and back of the oil cooler if I want to keep the oil temps in
> the green.
>
> boyd young
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> But it always had a tendency to run too cool in the winter, and now it
> is worse.
> An easy fix would be some shutters to block and unblock the main
> radiator, cockpit
> operated.
Like this?
http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/store.cgi?ident=1416681550-352-27&browse=engines&product=oil_shutter
It's made to fit an 'aircraft' style oil cooler (John H: note the
quotes), so I don't know if it will directly fit your cooler.
You could get the same effect with less summertime obstruction by
building a short rectangular duct to fit the heat exchanger and mount a
'butterfly' style valve that fits in the duct. Control with a Bowden cable.
Charlie
Charlie
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Subject: | The Kolb list is the best.......... |
Hello Kolb Flyers and Builders,
Living a Kolb free part of the country, I would never have been able to get
as far on my Kolbra, covering soon, without all of you on the Kolb list!!!!!
I am always happy to pay my Matronics dues to keep the list alive, and I
hope you do to.
It is hard for me to imagine another way to benefit from and enjoy all of
your company! Thanks to Matt and all of you for helping me follow my dream!
Nick Cassara
Palmer, Alaska
607AK
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Subject: | Re: Radiator shutters? |
At 08:05 PM 11/21/2014 -0800, you wrote:
>
>
>Anybody done that?
>
>--------
>Richard Pike
>Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>Kingsport, TN 3TN0
.......................................................................
Richard,
I used a radiator shutter with the Victor 1. It is quite simple with most
of the mechanism purchased as a child's automobile window shutter from Toy
or Us(?).
I am slowly resurrecting my web site and when I saw your email, I made sure
all the info on the shutter is available.
Use this jump:
http://www.jackbhart.com/firefly/fireflyindex.html to get to my web site.
Then go to Victor 1+ and look at the last 8 on the list.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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Subject: | Re: Radiator shutters? |
On 11/22/2014 2:46 PM, Jack B. Hart wrote:
>
> At 08:05 PM 11/21/2014 -0800, you wrote:
>>
>>
>> Anybody done that?
>>
>> --------
>> Richard Pike
>> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
> .......................................................................
> Richard,
>
> I used a radiator shutter with the Victor 1. It is quite simple with most
> of the mechanism purchased as a child's automobile window shutter from Toy
> or Us(?).
>
> I am slowly resurrecting my web site and when I saw your email, I made sure
> all the info on the shutter is available.
>
> Use this jump:
> http://www.jackbhart.com/firefly/fireflyindex.html to get to my web site.
> Then go to Victor 1+ and look at the last 8 on the list.
>
> Jack B. Hart FF004
> Winchester, IN
>
Brilliant! Will the shade open & close ok while in flight?
Do you have dimensions on the truck heater core? If possible, I'd like
to know the dimensions (H/W/thickness) of just the core, and the overall
dimensions. Also, what was the original size of the inlet/outlet
fittings? (I tried to find Partsamerica.com, but the website is
apparently dead.)
Thanks,
Charlie
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Subject: | Re: Radiator shutters? |
At 08:05 PM 11/21/2014 -0800, you wrote:
>
>
>Anybody done that?
>
>--------
>Richard Pike
>Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>Kingsport, TN 3TN0
.......................................................................
Richard,
I am sending this again because I missed a jump. It describes how to modify
the Graco window shade. A direct jump is:
http://www.jackbhart.com/firefly/firefly149a.html
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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