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1. 11:46 AM - Quiet tech. Ear buds (Larry Cottrell)
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3. 01:43 PM - Re: Quiet tech. Ear buds (Charlie England)
4. 02:21 PM - Re: Quiet tech. Ear buds (Larry Cottrell)
5. 03:48 PM - Re: Quiet tech. Ear buds (Larry Cottrell)
6. 04:22 PM - Re: Quiet tech. Ear buds (Charlie England)
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| Subject: | Quiet tech. Ear buds |
After checking the web site - https://www.quiettechnologies.com/ I
decided to try these out. I basically have nothing wrong with my hearing
that is not age related, but wearing glasses, I have trouble getting a good
seal with my head set. I cannot afford (will not ) David Clarks because
they squeeze my head enough that they become a distraction after an hour or
so. I have settled for Sig S45's as they do as well as any ANR set that I
have tried.
The weather has been interesting ever since I got the head set from them.
Today was the best that I am likely to get, so I rolled the plane out, and
after a bit of confusion, found that my radio was not on the same freq. as
my base station. :-/
The set is very light, measured in ounces, and the feature that makes it
work, is a hollow foam ear plug. If you get them rolled up and inserted in
the ear correctly, the result is pretty amazing. Outside noise is reduced
to the maximum amount and the sound from the radio is unimpeded into the
ear canal. It is necessary to turn the volume down to keep the sound to a
tolerable level. I am not sure if the mic is directional, and one of the
things that I found was that if the squelch is turned up to the point that
you can hear your own voice in the headset, you will also hear the engine
very loudly. I use a sig S 22 ? intercom, and that was the squelch that I
had to turn down, so the radio was not affected. ( the main reason that I
use the intercom was to be able to listen to a MP3 player. This headset has
a plug in the side to add music ) I am going to have to experiment more but
I rarely ever carry anyone that I need to talk to in the plane. I had the
headphone plug in the Side tone socket. It might stop that if I don't use
that feature. With the additional reduction in outside noise your voice
rings quite nicely in your head without it. The one thing that I found to
be a bit of a bother is the wire that holds the mic is pretty flimsy, and
it takes a bit of fooling and adjusting to get it in the right place in
front of your mouth. It has a tendency to snag on your clothing, especially
now at 40 degrees, and get moved. I can live with that however.
I tried putting my Sig headset over the ear buds to see if I could get more
noise reduction. It had no effect.
One of the things that has bothered me in the past is that listening to an
MP3 requires me to turn it up loud enough that I can hear it over the noise
of the engine, This set operates such that the noise of the engine is
reduced not overpowered. For the first time I could hear the music loud
enough that I had to turn the volume of the player down. The wife on the
base station could not tell any difference in the sound between the two
headsets, and she always came booming in for me.
The key to me has always been to reduce the outside sound enough to protect
your hearing. This set does that better than anything that I have tried so
far. There are to my knowledge two of this type of head set. Clarity aloft-
at around $500. and quiet Tech. at about $340. I have seen reviews by
Airline Pilots that the Clarity is a bit fragile. I am sure that the same
can be said for the Quiet tech.
The bottom line is that the noise reduction is better than anything that I
have tried. I need to turn the radio output down with these. I have never
had to do that with any other headset. They are light and comfortable. I
recommend them, for what that is worth.
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: Quiet tech. Ear buds |
I've been using the Quiet Technologies Halo headset for a few years now. No batteries
and they claim that they are better than the best ANR. I think they are
great and I have tried out the best ANR's including the Bose. I can hear traffic
that I had a difficult time hearing before I got these.
Larry, you can trim the tubes down if they flop around too much. Trim them where
they connect to the headset.
You can see all my videos using this headset here:
https://www.youtube.com/user/flyguy8294
Ralph B
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Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
1000+ hours
27 years flying it
Kolbra 912ULS
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Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=434789#434789
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| Subject: | Re: Quiet tech. Ear buds |
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
wrote:
> After checking the web site - https://www.quiettechnologies.com/ I
> decided to try these out. I basically have nothing wrong with my hearing
> that is not age related, but wearing glasses, I have trouble getting a good
> seal with my head set. I cannot afford (will not ) David Clarks because
> they squeeze my head enough that they become a distraction after an hour or
> so. I have settled for Sig S45's as they do as well as any ANR set that I
> have tried.
>
> The weather has been interesting ever since I got the head set from them.
> Today was the best that I am likely to get, so I rolled the plane out, and
> after a bit of confusion, found that my radio was not on the same freq. as
> my base station. :-/
>
> The set is very light, measured in ounces, and the feature that makes it
> work, is a hollow foam ear plug. If you get them rolled up and inserted in
> the ear correctly, the result is pretty amazing. Outside noise is reduced
> to the maximum amount and the sound from the radio is unimpeded into the
> ear canal. It is necessary to turn the volume down to keep the sound to a
> tolerable level. I am not sure if the mic is directional, and one of the
> things that I found was that if the squelch is turned up to the point that
> you can hear your own voice in the headset, you will also hear the engine
> very loudly. I use a sig S 22 ? intercom, and that was the squelch that I
> had to turn down, so the radio was not affected. ( the main reason that I
> use the intercom was to be able to listen to a MP3 player. This headset has
> a plug in the side to add music ) I am going to have to experiment more but
> I rarely ever carry anyone that I need to talk to in the plane. I had the
> headphone plug in the Side tone socket. It might stop that if I don't use
> that feature. With the additional reduction in outside noise your voice
> rings quite nicely in your head without it. The one thing that I found to
> be a bit of a bother is the wire that holds the mic is pretty flimsy, and
> it takes a bit of fooling and adjusting to get it in the right place in
> front of your mouth. It has a tendency to snag on your clothing, especially
> now at 40 degrees, and get moved. I can live with that however.
>
> I tried putting my Sig headset over the ear buds to see if I could get
> more noise reduction. It had no effect.
>
> One of the things that has bothered me in the past is that listening to an
> MP3 requires me to turn it up loud enough that I can hear it over the noise
> of the engine, This set operates such that the noise of the engine is
> reduced not overpowered. For the first time I could hear the music loud
> enough that I had to turn the volume of the player down. The wife on the
> base station could not tell any difference in the sound between the two
> headsets, and she always came booming in for me.
>
> The key to me has always been to reduce the outside sound enough to
> protect your hearing. This set does that better than anything that I have
> tried so far. There are to my knowledge two of this type of head set.
> Clarity aloft- at around $500. and quiet Tech. at about $340. I have seen
> reviews by Airline Pilots that the Clarity is a bit fragile. I am sure that
> the same can be said for the Quiet tech.
>
> The bottom line is that the noise reduction is better than anything that I
> have tried. I need to turn the radio output down with these. I have never
> had to do that with any other headset. They are light and comfortable. I
> recommend them, for what that is worth.
> Larry
>
> --
>
> I (and my wife) use them in my RV-4 & we both love them. Ours came with
both foam and silicone inserts. We use the silicone ones because they are
much faster to insert in our ears. The mic is directional (notice the
little hole on the back side of the mic) but extreme noise levels will
overwhelm any mic's ability to cancel off-axis noise. I'd recommend calling
QT & asking if there's a gain adjustment on the element. I didn't see one
on mine, but there may be one. The owner is an audiologist and I'm pretty
sure he'll do his best to help you out. If you can't reduce the mic's gain,
it's worth checking on the mic input on your radio. Some panel mounted a/c
radios do have mic gain adjustments.
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| Subject: | Re: Quiet tech. Ear buds |
Charlie said-
"The mic is directional (notice the little hole on the back side of the
mic) but extreme noise levels will overwhelm any mic's ability to cancel
off-axis noise. I'd recommend calling QT & asking if there's a gain
adjustment on the element. I didn't see one on mine, but there may be one.
The owner is an audiologist and I'm pretty sure he'll do his best to help
you out. If you can't reduce the mic's gain, it's worth checking on the mic
input on your radio. Some panel mounted a/c radios do have mic gain
adjustments."
The reason that I was getting the feedback or the sound of the engine is
that I was using the side tone on my intercom. I am not sure that a side
tone is necessary with this headset because the reduction in engine noise
is likely enough that one will be able to hear your own voice without it.
If my recollection is correct, I had turned the side tone squelch so far to
off position, I wasn't getting side tone anyway, but I had no problem
knowing that my voice was going out over the radio. Further testing will be
necessary- Dang it! ;')
Larry
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> After checking the web site - https://www.quiettechnologies.com/ I
>> decided to try these out. I basically have nothing wrong with my hearing
>> that is not age related, but wearing glasses, I have trouble getting a good
>> seal with my head set. I cannot afford (will not ) David Clarks because
>> they squeeze my head enough that they become a distraction after an hour or
>> so. I have settled for Sig S45's as they do as well as any ANR set that I
>> have tried.
>>
>> The weather has been interesting ever since I got the head set from them.
>> Today was the best that I am likely to get, so I rolled the plane out, and
>> after a bit of confusion, found that my radio was not on the same freq. as
>> my base station. :-/
>>
>> The set is very light, measured in ounces, and the feature that makes it
>> work, is a hollow foam ear plug. If you get them rolled up and inserted in
>> the ear correctly, the result is pretty amazing. Outside noise is reduced
>> to the maximum amount and the sound from the radio is unimpeded into the
>> ear canal. It is necessary to turn the volume down to keep the sound to a
>> tolerable level. I am not sure if the mic is directional, and one of the
>> things that I found was that if the squelch is turned up to the point that
>> you can hear your own voice in the headset, you will also hear the engine
>> very loudly. I use a sig S 22 ? intercom, and that was the squelch that I
>> had to turn down, so the radio was not affected. ( the main reason that I
>> use the intercom was to be able to listen to a MP3 player. This headset has
>> a plug in the side to add music ) I am going to have to experiment more but
>> I rarely ever carry anyone that I need to talk to in the plane. I had the
>> headphone plug in the Side tone socket. It might stop that if I don't use
>> that feature. With the additional reduction in outside noise your voice
>> rings quite nicely in your head without it. The one thing that I found to
>> be a bit of a bother is the wire that holds the mic is pretty flimsy, and
>> it takes a bit of fooling and adjusting to get it in the right place in
>> front of your mouth. It has a tendency to snag on your clothing, especially
>> now at 40 degrees, and get moved. I can live with that however.
>>
>> I tried putting my Sig headset over the ear buds to see if I could get
>> more noise reduction. It had no effect.
>>
>> One of the things that has bothered me in the past is that listening to
>> an MP3 requires me to turn it up loud enough that I can hear it over the
>> noise of the engine, This set operates such that the noise of the engine is
>> reduced not overpowered. For the first time I could hear the music loud
>> enough that I had to turn the volume of the player down. The wife on the
>> base station could not tell any difference in the sound between the two
>> headsets, and she always came booming in for me.
>>
>> The key to me has always been to reduce the outside sound enough to
>> protect your hearing. This set does that better than anything that I have
>> tried so far. There are to my knowledge two of this type of head set.
>> Clarity aloft- at around $500. and quiet Tech. at about $340. I have seen
>> reviews by Airline Pilots that the Clarity is a bit fragile. I am sure that
>> the same can be said for the Quiet tech.
>>
>> The bottom line is that the noise reduction is better than anything that
>> I have tried. I need to turn the radio output down with these. I have never
>> had to do that with any other headset. They are light and comfortable. I
>> recommend them, for what that is worth.
>> Larry
>>
>> --
>>
>> I (and my wife) use them in my RV-4 & we both love them. Ours came with
> both foam and silicone inserts. We use the silicone ones because they are
> much faster to insert in our ears. The mic is directional (notice the
> little hole on the back side of the mic) but extreme noise levels will
> overwhelm any mic's ability to cancel off-axis noise. I'd recommend calling
> QT & asking if there's a gain adjustment on the element. I didn't see one
> on mine, but there may be one. The owner is an audiologist and I'm pretty
> sure he'll do his best to help you out. If you can't reduce the mic's gain,
> it's worth checking on the mic input on your radio. Some panel mounted a/c
> radios do have mic gain adjustments.
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Quiet tech. Ear buds |
Charlie wrote:The mic is directional (notice the little hole on the back
side of the mic)
I went out to check and I had the mike opening pointing to the front of
the plane rather than at my mouth. Duh!
Larry
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> After checking the web site - https://www.quiettechnologies.com/ I
>> decided to try these out. I basically have nothing wrong with my hearing
>> that is not age related, but wearing glasses, I have trouble getting a good
>> seal with my head set. I cannot afford (will not ) David Clarks because
>> they squeeze my head enough that they become a distraction after an hour or
>> so. I have settled for Sig S45's as they do as well as any ANR set that I
>> have tried.
>>
>> The weather has been interesting ever since I got the head set from them.
>> Today was the best that I am likely to get, so I rolled the plane out, and
>> after a bit of confusion, found that my radio was not on the same freq. as
>> my base station. :-/
>>
>> The set is very light, measured in ounces, and the feature that makes it
>> work, is a hollow foam ear plug. If you get them rolled up and inserted in
>> the ear correctly, the result is pretty amazing. Outside noise is reduced
>> to the maximum amount and the sound from the radio is unimpeded into the
>> ear canal. It is necessary to turn the volume down to keep the sound to a
>> tolerable level. I am not sure if the mic is directional, and one of the
>> things that I found was that if the squelch is turned up to the point that
>> you can hear your own voice in the headset, you will also hear the engine
>> very loudly. I use a sig S 22 ? intercom, and that was the squelch that I
>> had to turn down, so the radio was not affected. ( the main reason that I
>> use the intercom was to be able to listen to a MP3 player. This headset has
>> a plug in the side to add music ) I am going to have to experiment more but
>> I rarely ever carry anyone that I need to talk to in the plane. I had the
>> headphone plug in the Side tone socket. It might stop that if I don't use
>> that feature. With the additional reduction in outside noise your voice
>> rings quite nicely in your head without it. The one thing that I found to
>> be a bit of a bother is the wire that holds the mic is pretty flimsy, and
>> it takes a bit of fooling and adjusting to get it in the right place in
>> front of your mouth. It has a tendency to snag on your clothing, especially
>> now at 40 degrees, and get moved. I can live with that however.
>>
>> I tried putting my Sig headset over the ear buds to see if I could get
>> more noise reduction. It had no effect.
>>
>> One of the things that has bothered me in the past is that listening to
>> an MP3 requires me to turn it up loud enough that I can hear it over the
>> noise of the engine, This set operates such that the noise of the engine is
>> reduced not overpowered. For the first time I could hear the music loud
>> enough that I had to turn the volume of the player down. The wife on the
>> base station could not tell any difference in the sound between the two
>> headsets, and she always came booming in for me.
>>
>> The key to me has always been to reduce the outside sound enough to
>> protect your hearing. This set does that better than anything that I have
>> tried so far. There are to my knowledge two of this type of head set.
>> Clarity aloft- at around $500. and quiet Tech. at about $340. I have seen
>> reviews by Airline Pilots that the Clarity is a bit fragile. I am sure that
>> the same can be said for the Quiet tech.
>>
>> The bottom line is that the noise reduction is better than anything that
>> I have tried. I need to turn the radio output down with these. I have never
>> had to do that with any other headset. They are light and comfortable. I
>> recommend them, for what that is worth.
>> Larry
>>
>> --
>>
>> I (and my wife) use them in my RV-4 & we both love them. Ours came with
> both foam and silicone inserts. We use the silicone ones because they are
> much faster to insert in our ears. The mic is directional (notice the
> little hole on the back side of the mic) but extreme noise levels will
> overwhelm any mic's ability to cancel off-axis noise. I'd recommend calling
> QT & asking if there's a gain adjustment on the element. I didn't see one
> on mine, but there may be one. The owner is an audiologist and I'm pretty
> sure he'll do his best to help you out. If you can't reduce the mic's gain,
> it's worth checking on the mic input on your radio. Some panel mounted a/c
> radios do have mic gain adjustments.
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Quiet tech. Ear buds |
Yeah, that might make a difference. :-)
On 11/26/2014 5:48 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote:
> Charlie wrote:The mic is directional (notice the little hole on the
> back side of the mic)
>
> I went out to check and I had the mike opening pointing to the front
> of the plane rather than at my mouth. Duh!
> Larry
>
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com
> <mailto:ceengland7@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Larry Cottrell
> <lcottrell1020@gmail.com <mailto:lcottrell1020@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> After checking the web site -
> https://www.quiettechnologies.com/ I decided to try these
> out. I basically have nothing wrong with my hearing that is
> not age related, but wearing glasses, I have trouble getting a
> good seal with my head set. I cannot afford (will not ) David
> Clarks because they squeeze my head enough that they become a
> distraction after an hour or so. I have settled for Sig S45's
> as they do as well as any ANR set that I have tried.
>
> The weather has been interesting ever since I got the head set
> from them. Today was the best that I am likely to get, so I
> rolled the plane out, and after a bit of confusion, found that
> my radio was not on the same freq. as my base station. :-/
>
> The set is very light, measured in ounces, and the feature
> that makes it work, is a hollow foam ear plug. If you get them
> rolled up and inserted in the ear correctly, the result is
> pretty amazing. Outside noise is reduced to the maximum amount
> and the sound from the radio is unimpeded into the ear canal.
> It is necessary to turn the volume down to keep the sound to a
> tolerable level. I am not sure if the mic is directional, and
> one of the things that I found was that if the squelch is
> turned up to the point that you can hear your own voice in the
> headset, you will also hear the engine very loudly. I use a
> sig S 22 ? intercom, and that was the squelch that I had to
> turn down, so the radio was not affected. ( the main reason
> that I use the intercom was to be able to listen to a MP3
> player. This headset has a plug in the side to add music ) I
> am going to have to experiment more but I rarely ever carry
> anyone that I need to talk to in the plane. I had the
> headphone plug in the Side tone socket. It might stop that if
> I don't use that feature. With the additional reduction in
> outside noise your voice rings quite nicely in your head
> without it. The one thing that I found to be a bit of a bother
> is the wire that holds the mic is pretty flimsy, and it takes
> a bit of fooling and adjusting to get it in the right place in
> front of your mouth. It has a tendency to snag on your
> clothing, especially now at 40 degrees, and get moved. I can
> live with that however.
>
> I tried putting my Sig headset over the ear buds to see if I
> could get more noise reduction. It had no effect.
>
> One of the things that has bothered me in the past is that
> listening to an MP3 requires me to turn it up loud enough that
> I can hear it over the noise of the engine, This set operates
> such that the noise of the engine is reduced not overpowered.
> For the first time I could hear the music loud enough that I
> had to turn the volume of the player down. The wife on the
> base station could not tell any difference in the sound
> between the two headsets, and she always came booming in for me.
>
> The key to me has always been to reduce the outside sound
> enough to protect your hearing. This set does that better than
> anything that I have tried so far. There are to my knowledge
> two of this type of head set. Clarity aloft- at around $500.
> and quiet Tech. at about $340. I have seen reviews by Airline
> Pilots that the Clarity is a bit fragile. I am sure that the
> same can be said for the Quiet tech.
>
> The bottom line is that the noise reduction is better than
> anything that I have tried. I need to turn the radio output
> down with these. I have never had to do that with any other
> headset. They are light and comfortable. I recommend them, for
> what that is worth.
> Larry
>
> --
>
> I (and my wife) use them in my RV-4 & we both love them. Ours came
> with both foam and silicone inserts. We use the silicone ones
> because they are much faster to insert in our ears. The mic is
> directional (notice the little hole on the back side of the mic)
> but extreme noise levels will overwhelm any mic's ability to
> cancel off-axis noise. I'd recommend calling QT & asking if
> there's a gain adjustment on the element. I didn't see one on
> mine, but there may be one. The owner is an audiologist and I'm
> pretty sure he'll do his best to help you out. If you can't reduce
> the mic's gain, it's worth checking on the mic input on your
> radio. Some panel mounted a/c radios do have mic gain adjustments.
>
>
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