---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 12/24/14: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:11 AM - Latex Paint Rolling Video (gliderx5@comcast.net) 2. 05:51 AM - Re: Latex Paint Rolling Video (william sullivan) 3. 07:51 AM - Re: Latex Paint Rolling Video (Frank Goodnight) 4. 08:06 AM - Re: Latex Paint Rolling Video (gliderx5@comcast.net) 5. 08:10 AM - Re: Latex Paint Rolling Video (Frank) 6. 08:14 AM - Re: Latex Paint Rolling Video (John Hauck) 7. 08:44 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 12/23/14 (Bob Green) 8. 08:55 AM - Re: Latex Paint Rolling Video (Joe Montano) 9. 10:00 AM - Re: Latex Paint Rolling Video (gliderx5@comcast.net) 10. 10:15 AM - Re: visit --New Kolb Owner-- (Leland.Lam) 11. 12:41 PM - Re: Latex Paint Rolling Video (Sky Biker) 12. 05:34 PM - 2014 List of Contributors (Matt Dralle) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:11:55 AM PST US From: gliderx5@comcast.net Subject: Kolb-List: Latex Paint Rolling Video I just finished a new video on applying latex paint with a roller. After th e sanding and polishing process the results are nearly as good as spraying. Both methods, spraying and rolling have their advantages. Spraying gives the best finish, it=99s faster for big areas, and requ ires less sanding to smooth the orange peel. But, you need spray equipment and a paint booth the contain the over spray, and you need to mask parts th at you don=99t want painted. Rolling is faster for smaller areas and requires no masking other than alon g edges, it needs no paint booth or equipment, there=99s no over spra y. But, it requires more sanding to remove the orange peel and while the re sult is quite good it=99s probably not quite as good as spraying. Have a look at the video and let me know what you think. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhlxE3EFcCQ Merry Christmas Malcolm Morrison www.wienerdogaero.com ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:51:33 AM PST US From: william sullivan Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Latex Paint Rolling Video Malcom- Very nice, and very informative. I am going to forward this to a friend who does professional re-finishing on wood. Thanks. Bill Sullivan do not archive -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 12/24/14, gliderx5@comcast.net wrote: Subject: Kolb-List: Latex Paint Rolling Video To: "kolb-list" Date: Wednesday, December 24, 2014, 8:09 AM I just finished a new video on applying latex paint with a roller. After the sanding and polishing process the results are nearly as good as spraying. Both methods, spraying and rolling have their advantages.Spraying gives the best finish, its faster for big areas, and requires less sanding to smooth the orange peel. But, you need spray equipment and a paint booth the contain the over spray, and you need to mask parts that you dont want painted.Rolling is faster for smaller areas and requires no masking other than along edges, it needs no paint booth or equipment, theres no over spray. But, it requires more sanding to remove the orange peel and while the result is quite good its probably not quite as good as spraying.Have a look at the video and let me know what you think.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhlxE3EFcCQ Merry ChristmasMalcolm Morrisonwww.wienerdogaero.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:51:33 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Latex Paint Rolling Video From: Frank Goodnight Interesting video , I know nothing about latex , but want to try it. Please p ermit a couple of questions . #1 is the base cloth poly fiber ? If so is it glued to the airfr ame with Polly tack?# 2 what is the green coat , some sort of primer, or is i t for UV protection or just to get the latex to stick to the cloth. #3 What a bout UV protection? Thanks for the paint lesson--the poly fiber process is just too expensive i f there are other options that will work . I think an old friend from many y ears ago ,Mike Makepiece from ElDorado Arkansas--used bed sheets from Walmart with latex house paint to cover the Fi sher Planes that he built. Worked good on the light and slow Fishers. A good Xmas to you and to all Kolbers. Frank Goodnight Sent from my iPad On Dec 24, 2014, at 7:09 AM, gliderx5@comcast.net wrote: > I just finished a new video on applying latex paint with a roller. After t he sanding and polishing process the results are nearly as good as spraying. Both methods, spraying and rolling have their advantages. > > Spraying gives the best finish, it=99s faster for big areas, and req uires less sanding to smooth the orange peel. But, you need spray equipment a nd a paint booth the contain the over spray, and you need to mask parts that you don=99t want painted. > > Rolling is faster for smaller areas and requires no masking other than alo ng edges, it needs no paint booth or equipment, there=99s no over spra y. But, it requires more sanding to remove the orange peel and while the res ult is quite good it=99s probably not quite as good as spraying. > > Have a look at the video and let me know what you think. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhlxE3EFcCQ > > Merry Christmas > > Malcolm Morrison > www.wienerdogaero.com > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:06:52 AM PST US From: gliderx5@comcast.net Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Latex Paint Rolling Video Frank It's 1.8 oz peel ply from Aircraft Spruce, Stewarts EcoBond and/or 3M FastB ond glue, Gliddon Gripper primer, the green is the other finish color, and latex has good UV protection. Please check out www.wienerdogaero.com for lo ts of info on latex painting for aircraft. There are more videos, slides, w ebinar, and pages of good stuff. Thanks Malcolm Morrison www.wienerdogaero.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Goodnight" Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:51:05 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Latex Paint Rolling Video Interesting video , I know nothing about latex , but want to try it. Please permit a couple of questions . #1 is the base cloth poly fiber ? If so is it glued to the airf rame with Polly tack?# 2 what is the green coat , some sort of primer, or i s it for UV protection or just to get the latex to stick to the cloth. #3 W hat about UV protection? Thanks for the paint lesson--the poly fiber process is just too expensive i f there are other options that will work . I think an old friend from many years ago ,Mike Makepiece from ElDorado Arkansas--used bed sheets from Walmart with latex house paint to cover the Fisher Planes that he built. Worked good on the light and slow Fishers. A good Xmas to you and to all Kolbers. Frank Goodnight Sent from my iPad On Dec 24, 2014, at 7:09 AM, gliderx5@comcast.net wrote: I just finished a new video on applying latex paint with a roller. After th e sanding and polishing process the results are nearly as good as spraying. Both methods, spraying and rolling have their advantages. Spraying gives the best finish, it=99s faster for big areas, and requ ires less sanding to smooth the orange peel. But, you need spray equipment and a paint booth the contain the over spray, and you need to mask parts th at you don=99t want painted. Rolling is faster for smaller areas and requires no masking other than alon g edges, it needs no paint booth or equipment, there=99s no over spra y. But, it requires more sanding to remove the orange peel and while the re sult is quite good it=99s probably not quite as good as spraying. Have a look at the video and let me know what you think. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhlxE3EFcCQ Merry Christmas Malcolm Morrison www.wienerdogaero.com ========= ctric.com >www.buildersbooks.com uilthelp.com otstore.com matronics.com/contribution ========= ://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List ========= cs.com ========== =========== ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:10:01 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Latex Paint Rolling Video From: Frank Thanks for the response . Frank Do not archive Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2014, at 10:06 AM, gliderx5@comcast.net wrote: > Frank > > It's 1.8 oz peel ply from Aircraft Spruce, Stewarts EcoBond and/or 3M Fast Bond glue, Gliddon Gripper primer, the green is the other finish color, and l atex has good UV protection. Please check out www.wienerdogaero.com for lots of info on latex painting for aircraft. There are more videos, slides, webi nar, and pages of good stuff. > > Thanks > Malcolm Morrison > www.wienerdogaero.com > > > From: "Frank Goodnight" > To: "kolb-list" > Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:51:05 AM > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Latex Paint Rolling Video > > Interesting video , I know nothing about latex , but want to try it. Pleas e permit a couple of > questions . #1 is the base cloth poly fiber ? If so is it glued to the air frame with Polly tack?# 2 what is the green coat , some sort of primer, or i s it for UV protection or just to get the latex to stick to the cloth. #3 Wh at about UV protection? > Thanks for the paint lesson--the poly fiber process is just too expensiv e if there are other options that will work . I think an old friend from man y years ago ,Mike Makepiece from ElDorado > Arkansas--used bed sheets from Walmart with latex house paint to cover the Fisher Planes > that he built. Worked good on the light and slow Fishers. > A good Xmas to you and to all Kolbers. > Frank Goodnight > > Sent from my iPad > > On Dec 24, 2014, at 7:09 AM, gliderx5@comcast.net wrote: > > I just finished a new video on applying latex paint with a roller. After t he sanding and polishing process the results are nearly as good as spraying. Both methods, spraying and rolling have their advantages. > > Spraying gives the best finish, it=99s faster for big areas, and req uires less sanding to smooth the orange peel. But, you need spray equipment a nd a paint booth the contain the over spray, and you need to mask parts that you don=99t want painted. > > Rolling is faster for smaller areas and requires no masking other than alo ng edges, it needs no paint booth or equipment, there=99s no over spra y. But, it requires more sanding to remove the orange peel and while the res ult is quite good it=99s probably not quite as good as spraying. > > Have a look at the video and let me know what you think. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhlxE3EFcCQ > > Merry Christmas > > Malcolm Morrison > www.wienerdogaero.com > > > ========= > ctric.com > >www.buildersbooks.com > uilthelp.com > otstore.com > > matronics.com/contribution > ========= > ://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > ========= > cs.com > ========= > > > > _blank">www.aeroelectric.com > " target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com > ="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com > ="_blank">www.mypilotstore.com > ank">www.mrrace.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:14:52 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Latex Paint Rolling Video Homer Kolb used plastic to cover his early hang gliders, but I doubt he would use bed sheets today, if he were still with us. Would not recommend that material in lieu of Polyester Dacron. Since fabric covering for our airplanes is a critical component, I would not deviate in any way from the factory recommended method of covering and processing. Of course, this is my own personal opinion, and my own ass when I am up there and at the mercy of Murphy and gravity. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frank Goodnight Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 9:51 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Latex Paint Rolling Video Interesting video , I know nothing about latex , but want to try it. Please permit a couple of questions . #1 is the base cloth poly fiber ? If so is it glued to the airframe with Polly tack?# 2 what is the green coat , some sort of primer, or is it for UV protection or just to get the latex to stick to the cloth. #3 What about UV protection? Thanks for the paint lesson--the poly fiber process is just too expensive if there are other options that will work . I think an old friend from many years ago ,Mike Makepiece from ElDorado Arkansas--used bed sheets from Walmart with latex house paint to cover the Fisher Planes that he built. Worked good on the light and slow Fishers. A good Xmas to you and to all Kolbers. Frank Goodnight Sent from my iPad On Dec 24, 2014, at 7:09 AM, gliderx5@comcast.net wrote: I just finished a new video on applying latex paint with a roller. After the sanding and polishing process the results are nearly as good as spraying. Both methods, spraying and rolling have their advantages. Spraying gives the best finish, it=99s faster for big areas, and requires less sanding to smooth the orange peel. But, you need spray equipment and a paint booth the contain the over spray, and you need to mask parts that you don=99t want painted. Rolling is faster for smaller areas and requires no masking other than along edges, it needs no paint booth or equipment, there=99s no over spray. But, it requires more sanding to remove the orange peel and while the result is quite good it=99s probably not quite as good as spraying. Have a look at the video and let me know what you think. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhlxE3EFcCQ Merry Christmas Malcolm Morrison www.wienerdogaero.com ========= ctric.com >www.buildersbooks.com uilthelp.com otstore.com matronics.com/contribution ========= ://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List ========= cs.com ========= ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:44:41 AM PST US From: Bob Green Subject: Kolb-List: RE: Kolb-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 12/23/14 TREVOR WOMERSLEY: Merry Christmas. Would you mind contacting me at my email address. I am a Kolber too but have a question for you. Bgreen@bimi.org Thank you. Bob N830PB MKIIIX Time: 09:04:30 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb- Happy Xmas From: Trevor Womersley Happy Christmas to you lot over the pond, From a Kolb owner from England,all the best. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:55:57 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Latex Paint Rolling Video From: Joe Montano What about UV protection Sent from my iPad > On Dec 24, 2014, at 10:14 AM, John Hauck wrote: > > Homer Kolb used plastic to cover his early hang gliders, but I doubt he wo uld use bed sheets today, if he were still with us. Would not recommend tha t material in lieu of Polyester Dacron. > > Since fabric covering for our airplanes is a critical component, I would n ot deviate in any way from the factory recommended method of covering and pr ocessing. > > Of course, this is my own personal opinion, and my own ass when I am up th ere and at the mercy of Murphy and gravity. > > john h > mkIII > Titus, Alabama > > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@ matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frank Goodnight > Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 9:51 AM > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Latex Paint Rolling Video > > Interesting video , I know nothing about latex , but want to try it. Pleas e permit a couple of > questions . #1 is the base cloth poly fiber ? If so is it glued to the air frame with Polly tack?# 2 what is the green coat , some sort of primer, or i s it for UV protection or just to get the latex to stick to the cloth. #3 Wh at about UV protection? > Thanks for the paint lesson--the poly fiber process is just too expensiv e if there are other options that will work . I think an old friend from man y years ago ,Mike Makepiece from ElDorado > Arkansas--used bed sheets from Walmart with latex house paint to cover the Fisher Planes > that he built. Worked good on the light and slow Fishers. > A good Xmas to you and to all Kolbers. > Frank Goodnight > > Sent from my iPad > > On Dec 24, 2014, at 7:09 AM, gliderx5@comcast.net wrote: > > I just finished a new video on applying latex paint with a roller. After t he sanding and polishing process the results are nearly as good as spraying. Both methods, spraying and rolling have their advantages. > > Spraying gives the best finish, it=99s faster for big areas, and req uires less sanding to smooth the orange peel. But, you need spray equipment a nd a paint booth the contain the over spray, and you need to mask parts that you don=99t want painted. > > Rolling is faster for smaller areas and requires no masking other than alo ng edges, it needs no paint booth or equipment, there=99s no over spra y. But, it requires more sanding to remove the orange peel and while the res ult is quite good it=99s probably not quite as good as spraying. > > Have a look at the video and let me know what you think. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhlxE3EFcCQ > > Merry Christmas > > Malcolm Morrison > www.wienerdogaero.com > > > ========= > ctric.com > >www.buildersbooks.com > uilthelp.com > otstore.com > > matronics.com/contribution > ========= > ://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > ========= > cs.com > ========= > > > > -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- > (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) > November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on > the Contribution link below to find out more about > this year's Terrific Free Incentive Gifts provided > by: > > * AeroElectric www.aeroelectric.com > * The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com > * HomebuiltHELP www.homebuilthelp.com > * My Pilot Store www.mypilotstore.com > * Race Consulting www.mrrace.com > List Contribution Web Site: > --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution > Thank you for your generous support! > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > - The Kolb-List Email Forum - > --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > --> http://forums.matronics.com > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:00:18 AM PST US From: gliderx5@comcast.net Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Latex Paint Rolling Video Joe There's a link on www.wienerdogaero.com, under latex, history, on "UV and L atex" that takes you to some research on the subject. Bottom line is that l atex does a good job. Malcolm Morrison www.wienerdogaero.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Montano" Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 11:55:39 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Latex Paint Rolling Video What about UV protection Sent from my iPad On Dec 24, 2014, at 10:14 AM, John Hauck < jhauck@elmore.rr.com > wrote: Homer Kolb used plastic to cover his early hang gliders, but I doubt he wou ld use bed sheets today, if he were still with us. Would not recommend that material in lieu of Polyester Dacron. Since fabric covering for our airplanes is a critical component, I would no t deviate in any way from the factory recommended method of covering and pr ocessing. Of course, this is my own personal opinion, and my own ass when I am up the re and at the mercy of Murphy and gravity. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [ mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@ matronics.com ] On Behalf Of Frank Goodnight Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 9:51 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Latex Paint Rolling Video Interesting video , I know nothing about latex , but want to try it. Please permit a couple of questions . #1 is the base cloth poly fiber ? If so is it glued to the airf rame with Polly tack?# 2 what is the green coat , some sort of primer, or i s it for UV protection or just to get the latex to stick to the cloth. #3 W hat about UV protection? Thanks for the paint lesson--the poly fiber process is just too expensive i f there are other options that will work . I think an old friend from many years ago ,Mike Makepiece from ElDorado Arkansas--used bed sheets from Walmart with latex house paint to cover the Fisher Planes that he built. Worked good on the light and slow Fishers. A good Xmas to you and to all Kolbers. Frank Goodnight Sent from my iPad On Dec 24, 2014, at 7:09 AM, gliderx5@comcast.net wrote:
I just finished a new video on applying latex paint with a roller. After th e sanding and polishing process the results are nearly as good as spraying. Both methods, spraying and rolling have their advantages. Spraying gives the best finish, it=99s faster for big areas, and requ ires less sanding to smooth the orange peel. But, you need spray equipment and a paint booth the contain the over spray, and you need to mask parts th at you don=99t want painted. Rolling is faster for smaller areas and requires no masking other than alon g edges, it needs no paint booth or equipment, there=99s no over spra y. But, it requires more sanding to remove the orange peel and while the re sult is quite good it=99s probably not quite as good as spraying. Have a look at the video and let me know what you think. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhlxE3EFcCQ Merry Christmas Malcolm Morrison www.wienerdogaero.com ========== ctric.com > www.buildersbooks.com uilthelp.com otstore.com matronics.com/contribution ========== :// www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List ========== cs.com ========== -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on the Contribution link below to find out more about this year's Terrific Free Incentive Gifts provided by: * AeroElectric www.aeroelectric.com * The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com * HomebuiltHELP www.homebuilthelp.com * My Pilot Store www.mypilotstore.com * Race Consulting www.mrrace.com List Contribution Web Site: --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you for your generous support! -Matt Dralle, List Admin. - The Kolb-List Email Forum - --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - --> http://forums.matronics.com D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D ot;">www.aeroelectric.com books.com"">www.buildersbooks.com quot;">www.homebuilthelp.com quot;">www.mypilotstore.com ">www.mrrace.com ot;">http://www.matronics.com/contribution D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D List"">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D //forums.matronics.com D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D
=========== ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:15:33 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: visit --New Kolb Owner-- From: "Leland.Lam" Frank, I am already back in sunny Arizona with the Kolb safely tucked into it's Hanger at the small private field where it will live. If everything goes well I will be doing a little flying over the holidays. Thank you for everything. Leland Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=436111#436111 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:41:29 PM PST US From: Sky Biker Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Latex Paint Rolling Video Thank you for your post on latex paint. I painted mine in 04 with latex an d caught so much flack from members of the Challenger site for using latex and I didn't know what I was doing. Needless to say I stopped any contact with the site...no need for closed minds and know it all's. As I said I spr ay painted it in 04 and used a clear coat over the latex. Other than where I ran out of clear coat it still look good and the color faded some with no clear coat. From: gliderx5@comcast.net Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Latex Paint Rolling Video Joe There's a link on www.wienerdogaero.com=2C under latex=2C history=2C on "UV and Latex" that takes you to some research on the subject. Bottom line is that latex does a good job. Malcolm Morrison www.wienerdogaero.com From: "Joe Montano" Sent: Wednesday=2C December 24=2C 2014 11:55:39 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Latex Paint Rolling Video What about UV protection Sent from my iPad On Dec 24=2C 2014=2C at 10:14 AM=2C John Hauck wrote : Homer Kolb used plastic to cover his early hang gliders=2C but I doubt he w ould use bed sheets today=2C if he were still with us. Would not recommend that material in lieu of Polyester Dacron. Since fabric covering for our a irplanes is a critical component=2C I would not deviate in any way from the factory recommended method of covering and processing. Of course=2C this i s my own personal opinion=2C and my own ass when I am up there and at the m ercy of Murphy and gravity. john hmkIIITitus=2C Alabama From: owner-kolb-li st-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Be half Of Frank Goodnight Sent: Wednesday=2C December 24=2C 2014 9:51 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Latex Paint Rolling Video Interesting video =2C I k now nothing about latex =2C but want to try it. Please permit a couple of q uestions . #1 is the base cloth poly fiber ? If so is it glued to the airfr ame with Polly tack?# 2 what is the green coat =2C some sort of primer=2C o r is it for UV protection or just to get the latex to stick to the cloth. # 3 What about UV protection? Thanks for the paint lesson--the poly fiber pr ocess is just too expensive if there are other options that will work . I t hink an old friend from many years ago =2CMike Makepiece from ElDoradoArkan sas--used bed sheets from Walmart with latex house paint to cover the Fishe r Planesthat he built. Worked good on the light and slow Fishers. A good X mas to you and to all Kolbers.Frank Goodnight Sent from my iPad On Dec 24=2C 2014=2C at 7:09 AM=2C gliderx5@comcast.net wrote:I just finish ed a new video on applying latex paint with a roller. After the sanding and polishing process the results are nearly as good as spraying. Both methods =2C spraying and rolling have their advantages. Spraying gives the best fin ish=2C it=92s faster for big areas=2C and requires less sanding to smooth t he orange peel. But=2C you need spray equipment and a paint booth the conta in the over spray=2C and you need to mask parts that you don=92t want paint ed. Rolling is faster for smaller areas and requires no masking other than along edges=2C it needs no paint booth or equipment=2C there=92s no over sp ray. But=2C it requires more sanding to remove the orange peel and while th e result is quite good it=92s probably not quite as good as spraying. Have a look at the video and let me know what you think.https://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=OhlxE3EFcCQ Merry Christmas Malcolm Morrisonwww.wienerdogaero.com ==========ctric.com>www.buildersbooks.comuilthelp.com otstore.com matronics.com/contribution==========://www. matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List==========cs.com== ======== -- Please Support Your Lists This Month - - (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) November is the Annual Lis t Fund Raiser. 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