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1. 09:49 AM - Grounding to the frame... (Nick Cassara)
2. 10:43 AM - My First Flight Impressions (Leland.Lam)
3. 10:47 AM - Re: My First Flight Impressions (Robert Laird)
4. 01:20 PM - Re: My First Flight Impressions (Frank)
5. 01:41 PM - Re: My First Flight Impressions (John Hauck)
6. 03:36 PM - Re: My First Flight Impressions (Leland.Lam)
7. 03:48 PM - Re: My First Flight Impressions (Leland.Lam)
8. 04:54 PM - Re: Headphones (dcharter)
9. 05:45 PM - Re: Grounding to the frame... (Rex Rodebush)
10. 06:13 PM - Re: Re: My First Flight Impressions (Jon LaVasseur)
11. 07:06 PM - Re: My First Flight Impressions (Leland.Lam)
12. 07:35 PM - Frustrating posts (Richard Pike)
13. 07:41 PM - Re: Frustrating posts (Larry Cottrell)
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| Subject: | Grounding to the frame... |
Hello Kolb Flyers,
Things on the list seem a little slow... so I soon will need to jump into
setting up the electrical system in my Kolbra, and my "hot box" wants to be
grounded to the frame. So please share your suggestions with me. I have not
put too much effort in to studying aircraft electrical systems yet.
Nick Cassara
Palmer, Alaska
607AK
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| Subject: | My First Flight Impressions |
A big thank you to everyone who has posted on this web page.
I have spent a lot of time reading all of the post back to 2009 trying to learn
as much as I could before taking my Mark III Classic up for the first time.
I have a PPL and was flying the normal GA stuff for about 20 years and I thought
that would be preparation enough for the KOLB. Luckily I happened to find this
web site and began reading and I am glad I did. Perhaps my first flight would
have been ok, but the good people here really helped me prepare for the difference
in the way the Kolb handles from other aircraft. I have the Rotax 912S
so the plane leaves the ground very quickly. Like many of the other Kolbs here
this plane is suffering from the home sick angel syndrome. It gets off the ground
very quickly and climbs at an impressive rate.
I have the dual sticks and my ailerons are a little heavy. I am going to fly this
way for a while to see if I will get used to it. Its not horrible it is just
a little different, but I feel the aircraft is safely controllable.
I left the pattern to do some stall work. These were non-events, this Kolb mostly
has a mushy stall. As I entered with nose high feet over the Horizon and some
power, I could get a quick break and a wing drop. The wings were easy to pick
up with the rudder. Nose low stalls were mushes and with rudder keeping the
wings in place the nose would not really fall just mush while a loss in altitude
was occurring.
I deployed the first notch of flaps and watched the nose point down. I pulled back
on the stick added in a little more power and I started laughing to myself
from recalling all of the discussions regarding flap usage. It is a strange feeling
having some of the control responses reversed due to the tractor pusher
configuration. I can just say when the flaps are deployed the nose down pitch
is pronounced, just be ready to react with stick and throttle as necessary.
I decided to retract the flaps and do my first landing clean. I turned to final
and set up for a 60 MPH approach. I had 4000 feet of dirt runway so I was not
concerned about landing long. Over the fence I held 50 and flew it down to just
above the runway and brought power back to idle. I held it as long as I could
and it stuck in a nice 3 point landing. The plane swerved a little to the right
at touch down, and I responded with a little left rudder, and we were stopped.
No bent landing gear, no spins, no unintentional stalls, no problems.
VERY COOL AIRPLANE I am still smiling.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=436896#436896
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| Subject: | Re: My First Flight Impressions |
Excellent report. Thanks for sharing (and thanks for reading all you could
before your first flight!).
-- Robert
On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Leland.Lam <wadelamoreaux@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> A big thank you to everyone who has posted on this web page.
> I have spent a lot of time reading all of the post back to 2009 trying to
> learn as much as I could before taking my Mark III Classic up for the fir
st
> time.
> I have a PPL and was flying the normal GA stuff for about 20 years and I
> thought that would be preparation enough for the KOLB. Luckily I happened
> to find this web site and began reading and I am glad I did. Perhaps my
> first flight would have been ok, but the good people here really helped m
e
> prepare for the difference in the way the Kolb handles from other aircraf
t.
> I have the Rotax 912S so the plane leaves the ground very quickly. Like
> many of the other Kolbs here this plane is suffering from the home sick
> angel syndrome. It gets off the ground very quickly and climbs at an
> impressive rate.
> I have the dual sticks and my ailerons are a little heavy. I am going to
> fly this way for a while to see if I will get used to it. It=99s no
t horrible
> it is just a little different, but I feel the aircraft is safely
> controllable.
> I left the pattern to do some stall work. These were non-events, this Kol
b
> mostly has a mushy stall. As I entered with nose high =9Cfeet over
the
> Horizon=9D and some power, I could get a quick break and a wing dro
p. The
> wings were easy to pick up with the rudder. Nose low stalls were mushes a
nd
> with rudder keeping the wings in place the nose would not really fall jus
t
> mush while a loss in altitude was occurring.
> I deployed the first notch of flaps and watched the nose point down. I
> pulled back on the stick added in a little more power and I started
> laughing to myself from recalling all of the discussions regarding flap
> usage. It is a strange feeling having some of the control responses
> reversed due to the tractor =9Cpusher=9D configuration. I can
just say when the
> flaps are deployed the nose down pitch is pronounced, just be ready to
> react with stick and throttle as necessary.
> I decided to retract the flaps and do my first landing clean. I turned to
> final and set up for a 60 MPH approach. I had 4000 feet of dirt runway so
I
> was not concerned about landing long. Over the fence I held 50 and flew i
t
> down to just above the runway and brought power back to idle. I held it a
s
> long as I could and it stuck in a nice 3 point landing. The plane swerved
a
> little to the right at touch down, and I responded with a little left
> rudder, and we were stopped. No bent landing gear, no spins, no
> unintentional stalls, no problems. VERY COOL AIRPLANE I am still smili
ng.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=436896#436896
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/kolb2_176.jpg
>
>
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>
>
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| Subject: | Re: My First Flight Impressions |
Happy that you like it.
Fly safe-- enjoy
Frank
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 12, 2015, at 12:43 PM, "Leland.Lam" <wadelamoreaux@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> A big thank you to everyone who has posted on this web page.
> I have spent a lot of time reading all of the post back to 2009 trying to learn
as much as I could before taking my Mark III Classic up for the first time.
> I have a PPL and was flying the normal GA stuff for about 20 years and I thought
that would be preparation enough for the KOLB. Luckily I happened to find
this web site and began reading and I am glad I did. Perhaps my first flight would
have been ok, but the good people here really helped me prepare for the difference
in the way the Kolb handles from other aircraft. I have the Rotax 912S
so the plane leaves the ground very quickly. Like many of the other Kolbs here
this plane is suffering from the home sick angel syndrome. It gets off the
ground very quickly and climbs at an impressive rate.
> I have the dual sticks and my ailerons are a little heavy. I am going to fly
this way for a while to see if I will get used to it. Its not horrible it is just
a little different, but I feel the aircraft is safely controllable.
> I left the pattern to do some stall work. These were non-events, this Kolb mostly
has a mushy stall. As I entered with nose high feet over the Horizon and
some power, I could get a quick break and a wing drop. The wings were easy to
pick up with the rudder. Nose low stalls were mushes and with rudder keeping the
wings in place the nose would not really fall just mush while a loss in altitude
was occurring.
> I deployed the first notch of flaps and watched the nose point down. I pulled
back on the stick added in a little more power and I started laughing to myself
from recalling all of the discussions regarding flap usage. It is a strange
feeling having some of the control responses reversed due to the tractor pusher
configuration. I can just say when the flaps are deployed the nose down pitch
is pronounced, just be ready to react with stick and throttle as necessary.
> I decided to retract the flaps and do my first landing clean. I turned to final
and set up for a 60 MPH approach. I had 4000 feet of dirt runway so I was not
concerned about landing long. Over the fence I held 50 and flew it down to
just above the runway and brought power back to idle. I held it as long as I could
and it stuck in a nice 3 point landing. The plane swerved a little to the
right at touch down, and I responded with a little left rudder, and we were stopped.
No bent landing gear, no spins, no unintentional stalls, no problems.
VERY COOL AIRPLANE I am still smiling.
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=436896#436896
>
>
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/kolb2_176.jpg
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | My First Flight Impressions |
I flew formation with your airplane from Sherman, TX, to the Rock House, Burns
Junction, OR, via Gallup, NM, Monument Valley, UT, Wendover, UT, and Elko, NV.
Is it still the Crawgator?
Also did a flight with it from Gantt IAP, Alabama to London, KY.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Leland.Lam
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 12:43 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: My First Flight Impressions
A big thank you to everyone who has posted on this web page.
I have spent a lot of time reading all of the post back to 2009 trying to learn
as much as I could before taking my Mark III Classic up for the first time.
I have a PPL and was flying the normal GA stuff for about 20 years and I thought
that would be preparation enough for the KOLB. Luckily I happened to find this
web site and began reading and I am glad I did. Perhaps my first flight would
have been ok, but the good people here really helped me prepare for the difference
in the way the Kolb handles from other aircraft. I have the Rotax 912S
so the plane leaves the ground very quickly. Like many of the other Kolbs here
this plane is suffering from the home sick angel syndrome. It gets off the ground
very quickly and climbs at an impressive rate.
I have the dual sticks and my ailerons are a little heavy. I am going to fly this
way for a while to see if I will get used to it. Its not horrible it is just
a little different, but I feel the aircraft is safely controllable.
I left the pattern to do some stall work. These were non-events, this Kolb mostly
has a mushy stall. As I entered with nose high feet over the Horizon and some
power, I could get a quick break and a wing drop. The wings were easy to pick
up with the rudder. Nose low stalls were mushes and with rudder keeping the
wings in place the nose would not really fall just mush while a loss in altitude
was occurring.
I deployed the first notch of flaps and watched the nose point down. I pulled back
on the stick added in a little more power and I started laughing to myself
from recalling all of the discussions regarding flap usage. It is a strange feeling
having some of the control responses reversed due to the tractor pusher
configuration. I can just say when the flaps are deployed the nose down pitch
is pronounced, just be ready to react with stick and throttle as necessary.
I decided to retract the flaps and do my first landing clean. I turned to final
and set up for a 60 MPH approach. I had 4000 feet of dirt runway so I was not
concerned about landing long. Over the fence I held 50 and flew it down to just
above the runway and brought power back to idle. I held it as long as I could
and it stuck in a nice 3 point landing. The plane swerved a little to the right
at touch down, and I responded with a little left rudder, and we were stopped.
No bent landing gear, no spins, no unintentional stalls, no problems.
VERY COOL AIRPLANE I am still smiling.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=436896#436896
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/kolb2_176.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: My First Flight Impressions |
John,
I have seen many of the pictures of you and Miss P'fer in formation with this plane.
Yes it is still the "Crawgator".
My wife seems to think the Crawgator logo should be removed, but that seems like
it would be defacing history. Some people just can't appreciate fine art. :D
I wish everyone would do the Mounument Valley fly again, that is almost right in
my back yard. Hope to fly with you someday in the meantime I will just have
to live vicariously by reading of your adventures.
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| Subject: | Re: My First Flight Impressions |
The Crawgator Logo
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My original firestar with a 377 was quiet. Anyways I was having trouble hearing
in my luscombe. I got a different com box, I don't remember which one but it
did replace the transcom ll. World of difference. I hear everything now.
I suppose the higher speeds create alot more air over the wing and into the prop
causing all the noise. I'll try to get the name of the com box I bought tomorrow.
Dan
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| Subject: | Re: Grounding to the frame... |
I'm sure grounding to the frame will work fine. Many people do it. I just felt
more comfortable with a separate grounding plate for all components.
See attached picture. It's the brass/copper colored plate mounted to the aluminum
seat pan.
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| Subject: | Re: My First Flight Impressions |
Leland,
Where do you fly from?
On Monday, January 12, 2015 4:52 PM, Leland.Lam <wadelamoreaux@gmail.c
om> wrote:
The Crawgator Logo
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=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
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| Subject: | Re: My First Flight Impressions |
(P48) Pleasant Valley Airport just north of Phoenix, AZ.
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| Subject: | Frustrating posts |
Let's see... Do I minimize the size of the page and be unable to read anything,
or do I leave the page the normal size and scroll back and forth so I can read
it?
Nah - I'll just ignore those posts and hope that maybe in the future, people will
take 5 seconds and resize their pictures before they post them.
Right click your picture. In the drop down box click on "resize."
Choose "Medium" or "Large." Attach that one instead.
Makes it easier to read, and also makes Matt Dralle happy, because you transformed
a 3 meg file to a 300 kb file.
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
My soul shall be joyful in the LORD; It shall rejoice in His salvation. Psalm 35:9
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| Subject: | Re: Frustrating posts |
For once I cannot complain with your assessment. You however can click on
it and it reduces a bit, but you still have to scroll.
Larry
On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Richard Pike <thegreybaron@charter.net>
wrote:
>
> Let's see... Do I minimize the size of the page and be unable to read
> anything, or do I leave the page the normal size and scroll back and forth
> so I can read it?
>
> Nah - I'll just ignore those posts and hope that maybe in the future,
> people will take 5 seconds and resize their pictures before they post them.
>
> Right click your picture. In the drop down box click on "resize."
>
> Choose "Medium" or "Large." Attach that one instead.
>
> Makes it easier to read, and also makes Matt Dralle happy, because you
> transformed a 3 meg file to a 300 kb file.
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
> My soul shall be joyful in the LORD; It shall rejoice in His salvation.
> Psalm 35:9
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=436936#436936
>
>
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