---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 01/14/15: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:56 AM - Form blocks (Frank) 2. 07:27 AM - Re: Form blocks (Frank) 3. 08:59 AM - Re: Frustrating posts (Tony Vitiello) 4. 09:57 AM - History (John Hauck) 5. 10:12 AM - Re: Re: Frustrating posts (Larry Cottrell) 6. 10:13 AM - Re: History (Larlaeb) 7. 10:28 AM - Re: Re: History (John Hauck) 8. 10:31 AM - Re: Re: History (pcking) 9. 12:32 PM - Re: History (Tony Vitiello) 10. 03:29 PM - Re: History (chris davis) 11. 04:12 PM - Re: History (John Hauck) 12. 08:40 PM - Re: History (WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com) 13. 08:56 PM - Re: History (John Hauck) 14. 09:51 PM - Re: History (Rick Neilsen) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:56:09 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Form blocks From: Frank Making some form blocks and have forgotten what angle to cut the edges so the flanges will spring back and end up at 90 degrees. Using .025-- 6061T6. Would someone with A better (younger) memory please enlighten me. Thanks Frank Sent from my iPhone ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:27:29 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Form blocks From: Frank Sent from my iPhone On Jan 14, 2015, at 8:52 AM, Frank wrote: > Making some form blocks and > have forgotten what angle to cut > the edges so the flanges will spring > back and end up at 90 degrees. Using > .025-- 6061T6. Would someone with > A better (younger) memory please > enlighten me. Thanks > Frank > > > Sent from my iPhone ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:59:16 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Frustrating posts From: "Tony Vitiello" Larlaeb wrote: > I think it's great if people take the time to format their posts and all that, spell things properly and use good prose. I even like it if they size their pictures smaller unless that costs some detail. However, I'm mainly just grateful that they take the time to post their experiences, videos, pictures, advice and opinions about flying and if they don't have the time or knowledge to make it pretty, that's still ok and I want to encourage them to share anyway. Just where I am.... > > Thanks, > Allan I agree too. I recently posted pics not thinking about the size and did go back and edit the post. That being said, any post that is relevant to Kolb is welcome in my opinion. My gripe is that there isn't more activity. Would love to see more pics, more videos, more build logs. I know that there is tons of info archived but new posts are what generate some excitement about Kolb. You can't find hardly any discussion, photos or videos about the "new" Firestar II SS. I know of at least 2 of these flying but if someone was interested in this model they would be hard pressed to find a video of it in the air. I say post a huge picture of your build progress on anything Kolb! It's better than nothing! Tony -------- Tony Vitiello St. Louis, MO Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=436994#436994 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:57:37 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Kolb-List: History I haven't flown my mkIII since I landed on my return flight from Oregon the end of Sep. Eventually, I will, if he weather will cooperate a little bit. I am tired of Winter and ready for Spring so I can get outside and play. I used to fly in any wind, weather, temperature, altitude, but that was yesterday. I am getting a little older and it ain't as much fun flying in adverse weather now. So....I pick my flying days to suit me. Could have done the same thing on my last flight out West, Sep 2014, but there is something about adrenalin that influences the decision making process. Most of the time if you don't fly when it is windy, you don't get anywhere out there. Here is a little bit of history. 10 years ago John Williamson, Kolbra, Gary Haley, MKIII, me, MKIII, and Ken Korenek, Titan Tornado, decided to do a last cross country flight of 2005. Of course, the other three were from Arlington and Houston, TX, and I had to fly from Titus, AL. On 5 Dec 2005, we met at the airport, Beaumont, TX, flew the river to Port Arthur, TX, then hooked a right at the Gulf of Mexico, flew south, low level, down the beach the length of Texas to the Mexican Border, turned right up the Rio Grande, another right and up the Pecos River, to Sonora, TX, another right to Austin, Houston, and back to Titus, AL. The flight took me 5 days and 4 nights. Took the other three from Texas, 3 days and 2 nights. All in all it was a great flight and a chance for four homebuilt airplane pilots to spend time together. One night we slept on the floor of the FBO at Mustang Beach, the next night in our tents at the airport in Del Rio, TX. The photo is of the three Kolbs high tailing it down the beach somewhere on the Texas coast. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama - If you don't do it today, you may be too old to do it tomorrow. Get busy and have some fun. I say post a huge picture of your build progress on anything Kolb! It's better than nothing! Tony -------- Tony Vitiello St. Louis, MO ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:12:31 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Frustrating posts From: Larry Cottrell > > > I agree too. I recently posted pics not thinking about the size and did > go back and edit the post. That being said, any post that is relevant to > Kolb is welcome in my opinion. My gripe is that there isn't more > activity. Would love to see more pics, more videos, more build logs. > > I know that there is tons of info archived but new posts are what generate > some excitement about Kolb. You can't find hardly any discussion, photos > or videos about the "new" Firestar II SS. I know of at least 2 of these > flying but if someone was interested in this model they would be hard > pressed to find a video of it in the air. > > I say post a huge picture of your build progress on anything Kolb! It's > better than nothing! > > Tony > > -------- > Tony Vitiello > St. Louis, MO > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > I understand that having someone bitching about the size of your picture feels a bit like cold water thrown unexpectedly on your enthusiasm. Been there done that! However there is a bit of truth that every one should understand. The attention span of most people is about 5 seconds. So when an attachment is noticed at the bottom of an email- excitement is generated. Then when you go from excitement to Where and what am I looking at? Most of us are lost. As you might remember I send a pretty large number of videos. I have learned that 3 or 4 minutes is about all the time that I have before some of the ones who will view it get bored. I have had complaints about not having motor noise, too much music- and so on. While it might make me feel unappreciated, it is still true. None of these comments are intended to hurt, they are just true, and if considered objectively will improve your ability to share whatever thought you were trying to convey. Communication where no visible clues are present require a bit different thinking. Any help communicating still might feel like criticism, but if listened to, will assist you in getting your message across with the best information. So don't be discouraged. Any and all communication from this list is preferable to jokes about the other political party, or most of the subjects conveyed. So keep them coming, work at making it more interesting. Larry > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=436994#436994 > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:13:49 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: History From: "Larlaeb" Great Picture! Those are my stomping grounds pretty much and I may have landed on that beach. :) Hope the weather warms up, not just up there but down here too! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=437000#437000 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:28:53 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: History Thanks. My apologies to those on the Kolb BBS. I don't normally use it. For some reason I took a peek at my post on BBS and was surprised the attached photo was too large. Photo size on my email fits perfect. I have no idea how it comes out on others, and really don't have any control over that. Love one another. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama Great Picture! Those are my stomping grounds pretty much and I may have landed on that beach. :) Hope the weather warms up, not just up there but down here too! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=437000#437000 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:31:17 AM PST US From: "pcking" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: History John, We can center the good part. Great picture. PCKing ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 1:28 PM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: History > > Thanks. > > My apologies to those on the Kolb BBS. I don't normally use it. For some > reason I took a peek at my post on BBS and was surprised the attached > photo > was too large. > > Photo size on my email fits perfect. I have no idea how it comes out on > others, and really don't have any control over that. > > Love one another. > > john h > mkIII > Titus, Alabama > > > > Great Picture! Those are my stomping grounds pretty much and I may have > landed on that beach. :) Hope the weather warms up, not just up there > but > down here too! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=437000#437000 > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:32:26 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: History From: "Tony Vitiello" Very nice John! -------- Tony Vitiello St. Louis, MO Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=437007#437007 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:29:19 PM PST US From: chris davis Subject: Re: Kolb-List: History Great pic John thats pretty nice formation for old homebuilders . Nice to r ead an email from you hope you can fly more soon . I am still working on th e Firefly designing and building hand rudder controls . oh you might be of help I need some lightweight cable blocks that i could use to reroute the r udder cables from the foot pedal to the throttle arm so i will be able to o perate the throttle and the rudder with one arm I have the arm built and ha ve a motorcycle twist grip throttle on it and the rig works well i just nee d 5 --3/32 cable blocks to make it operate the rudder. I cant find what i a m looking for in any aircraft supply but i thing i am coming close with a s mall stainless marine cable blockMarine Hardware - Pulley Block With Remova ble Pin - WebRiggingSupply.com=C2-=C2- What do you think of this | =C2- | | =C2- | | =C2- | =C2- | =C2- | =C2- | =C2- | | Marine Hardware - Pulley Block With Removable Pin - ...Stainless Steel Ma rine Hardware > Pulley Block With Removable Pin Pulley Block With Removable Pin S.S. T304 with Nylon Sheave Part No. A B C D WT. EACH LBS. ... | | | | View on www.webriggingsuppl... | Preview by Yahoo | | | | =C2- | =C2- =C2-Chris Davis KXP 503 492 hrs Glider Pilot Disabled from crash building Firefly On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 1:10 PM, John Hauck wrote: I haven't flown my mkIII since I landed on my return flight from Oregon the end of Sep.=C2- Eventually, I will, if he weather will cooperate a little bit. I am tired of Winter and ready for Spring so I can get outside and play. I used to fly in any wind, weather, temperature, altitude, but that was yesterday.=C2- I am getting a little older and it ain't as much fun flyin g in adverse weather now.=C2- So....I pick my flying days to suit me.=C2- Co uld have done the same thing on my last flight out West, Sep 2014, but there is something about adrenalin that influences the decision making process.=C2 - Most of the time if you don't fly when it is windy, you don't get anywhere out there. Here is a little bit of history.=C2- 10 years ago John Williamson, Kolbra , Gary Haley, MKIII, me, MKIII, and Ken Korenek, Titan Tornado, decided to do a last cross country flight of 2005.=C2- Of course, the other three were fr om Arlington and Houston, TX, and I=C2- had to fly from Titus, AL.=C2- On 5 Dec 2005, we met at the airport, Beaumont, TX, flew the river to Port Arthur, TX, the n hooked a right at the Gulf of Mexico, flew south, low level, down the beach the length of Texas to the Mexican Border, turned right up the Rio Grande, another right and up the Pecos River, to Sonora, TX, another right to Austin, Houston, and back to Titus, AL.=C2- The flight took me 5 days and 4 nights.=C2- Took the other three from Texas, 3 days and 2 nights.=C2- A ll in all it was a great flight and a chance for four homebuilt airplane pilots to spend time together.=C2- One night we slept on the floor of the FBO at Mu stang Beach, the next night in our tents at the airport in Del Rio, TX. The photo is of the three Kolbs high tailing it down the beach somewhere on the Texas coast. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama - If you don't do it today, you may be too old to do it tomorrow.=C2- Get busy and have some fun. I say post a huge picture of your build progress on anything Kolb!=C2- It 's better than nothing! Tony -------- Tony Vitiello St. Louis, MO ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:12:42 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: History Have you considered using aircraft cable pulleys made up with 4130 or 6061? Not knowing how you are rigging your rudder control, I think that is the way I would go, rather than hardware store material. However, the phenolic pulleys are very expensive. I looked at some on Aircraft Spruce. Was a shock. I'd try and locate some aircraft salvage companies to see what they have available. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of chris davis Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 5:29 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: History Great pic John thats pretty nice formation for old homebuilders . Nice to read an email from you hope you can fly more soon . I am still working on the Firefly designing and building hand rudder controls . oh you might be of help I need some lightweight cable blocks that i could use to reroute the rudder cables from the foot pedal to the throttle arm so i will be able to operate the throttle and the rudder with one arm I have the arm built and have a motorcycle twist grip throttle on it and the rig works well i just need 5 --3/32 cable blocks to make it operate the rudder. I cant find what i am looking for in any aircraft supply but i thing i am coming close with a small stainless marine cable blockMarine Hardware - Pulley Block With Removable Pin - WebRiggingSupply.com What do you think of this image Marine Hardware - Pulley Block With Removable Pin - ... Stainless Steel Marine Hardware > Pulley Block With Removable Pin Pulley Block With Removable Pin S.S. T304 with Nylon Sheave Part No. A B C D WT. EACH LBS. ... View on www.webriggingsuppl... Preview by Yahoo Chris Davis KXP 503 492 hrs Glider Pilot Disabled from crash building Firefly On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 1:10 PM, John Hauck wrote: I haven't flown my mkIII since I landed on my return flight from Oregon the end of Sep. Eventually, I will, if he weather will cooperate a little bit. I am tired of Winter and ready for Spring so I can get outside and play. I used to fly in any wind, weather, temperature, altitude, but that was yesterday. I am getting a little older and it ain't as much fun flying in adverse weather now. So....I pick my flying days to suit me. Could have done the same thing on my last flight out West, Sep 2014, but there is something about adrenalin that influences the decision making process. Most of the time if you don't fly when it is windy, you don't get anywhere out there. Here is a little bit of history. 10 years ago John Williamson, Kolbra, Gary Haley, MKIII, me, MKIII, and Ken Korenek, Titan Tornado, decided to do a last cross country flight of 2005. Of course, the other three were from Arlington and Houston, TX, and I had to fly from Titus, AL. On 5 Dec 2005, we met at the airport, Beaumont, TX, flew the river to Port Arthur, TX, then hooked a right at the Gulf of Mexico, flew south, low level, down the beach the length of Texas to the Mexican Border, turned right up the Rio Grande, another right and up the Pecos River, to Sonora, TX, another right to Austin, Houston, and back to Titus, AL. The flight took me 5 days and 4 nights. Took the other three from Texas, 3 days and 2 nights. All in all it was a great flight and a chance for four homebuilt airplane pilots to spend time together. One night we slept on the floor of the FBO at Mustang Beach, the next night in our tents at the airport in Del Rio, TX. The photo is of the three Kolbs high tailing it down the beach somewhere on the Texas coast. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama - If you don't do it today, you may be too old to do it tomorrow. Get busy and have some fun. I say post a huge picture of your build progress on anything Kolb! It's better than nothing! Tony -------- Tony Vitiello St. Louis, MO ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:40:25 PM PST US From: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: History John, A really good picture. Who took it? And note all eyes on the beach are looking skyward at those Kolb's. Bill Varnes Audubon, NJ Kolb FireStar - First flight 1994 (20 years flying it) Me - 78 yo In a message dated 1/14/2015 12:57:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jhauck@elmore.rr.com writes: The photo is of the three Kolbs high tailing it down the beach somewhere on the Texas coast. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:56:49 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: History Ken Korenek took the picture of John W's Kolbra, Gary H's MKIII, and my MKIII. We never got higher than that all the way down the Texas coast, up the Rio Grande and Pecos Rivers. Was a great flight. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama John, A really good picture. Who took it? And note all eyes on the beach are looking skyward at those Kolb's. Bill Varnes Audubon, NJ Kolb FireStar - First flight 1994 (20 years flying it) Me - 78 yo In a message dated 1/14/2015 12:57:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jhauck@elmore.rr.com writes: The photo is of the three Kolbs high tailing it down the beach somewhere on the Texas coast. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:51:40 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: History From: Rick Neilsen John Great photo. You were flying a real tight formation. Did a flight of six (five Kolbs) with John H and John W from Iron Mtn. MI into Oshkosh years ago. The John's were giving the rest of us a rough time about how wide a grouping we were flying. We were never allowed to call us a formation. As time went on got use to flying a bit tighter grouping but never a formation. Later did a lot of flying with a good friend next to his Firestar II. He used to complain if I got within a quarter mile of his wing tip. One evening he was out flying by himself and I unexpectedly flew up next to him still way over a hundred feet off his wing tip. Ever see someone jump when you startle them, well his whole plane jumped. Do not archive Rick Neilsen Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 11:56 PM, John Hauck wrote: > Ken Korenek took the picture of John W's Kolbra, Gary H's MKIII, and my > MKIII. > > > We never got higher than that all the way down the Texas coast, up the Rio > Grande and Pecos Rivers. Was a great flight. > > > john h > > mkIII > > Titus, Alabama > > John, > > > A really good picture. Who took it? And note all eyes on the beach are > looking skyward at those Kolb's. > > > Bill Varnes > Audubon, NJ > Kolb FireStar - First flight 1994 (20 years flying it) > > Me - 78 yo > > In a message dated 1/14/2015 12:57:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > jhauck@elmore.rr.com writes: > > The photo is of the three Kolbs high tailing it down the beach somewhere on > the Texas coast. > > > * > > > * > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.