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Thu 01/29/15


Total Messages Posted: 9



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 01:23 AM - Trimming messages (JC Gilpin)
     2. 04:59 AM - Re: Bourke engine gibberish (Michael Velemirov)
     3. 05:49 AM - Re: Re: Bourke engine gibberish (william sullivan)
     4. 06:46 AM - Re: Re: Bourke engine gibberish (undoctor)
     5. 07:04 AM - Re: Re: Bourke engine gibberish (Herb)
     6. 07:30 AM - Re: Wankel (woody)
     7. 08:15 AM - Re: Re: Wankel (Charlie England)
     8. 08:22 AM - Re: Re: Bourke engine gibberish (Charlie England)
     9. 10:31 AM - Re: Re: Bourke engine gibberish (william sullivan)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:23:28 AM PST US
    Subject: Trimming messages
    From: JC Gilpin <j.gilpin@bigpond.com>
    Sure would be good if everyone trimmed the history of old messages from their postings..... Just leave enough to remind us what the post is replying to. JG


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    Time: 04:59:51 AM PST US
    From: "Michael Velemirov" <mvelemirov@neo.rr.com>
    Subject: RE: Bourke engine gibberish
    I=99m getting gibberish also. I=99m using windows 7 and Windows live email Michael Velemirov Twinstar Mk II


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    Time: 05:49:55 AM PST US
    From: william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net>
    Subject: Re: RE: Bourke engine gibberish
    I only get gibberish when people say, "this is what it looks like:" and post it. Windows 7, Home Edition, Firefox, and Yahoo Mail. do not archive Bill Sullivan -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 1/29/15, Michael Velemirov <mvelemirov@neo.rr.com> wrote: Subject: Kolb-List: RE: Bourke engine gibberish To: "Kolb-List Digest Server" <kolb-list@matronics.com> Date: Thursday, January 29, 2015, 7:59 AM Im getting gibberish also. Im using windows 7 and Windows live email Michael Velemirov Twinstar Mk II


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    Time: 06:46:42 AM PST US
    Subject: RE: Bourke engine gibberish
    From: undoctor <undoctor@ptd.net>
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    Time: 07:04:36 AM PST US
    From: Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com>
    Subject: Re: RE: Bourke engine gibberish
    Nothing wrong with Winders or crab apple....but I divorced them both for Linux Mint . Works very well.. I run firefox web browser and Thunderbird mail... Herb On 01/29/2015 07:49 AM, william sullivan wrote: > > I only get gibberish when people say, "this is what it looks like:" and post it. Windows 7, Home Edition, Firefox, and Yahoo Mail. > > do not archive > > Bill Sullivan > -------------------------------------------- > On Thu, 1/29/15, Michael Velemirov <mvelemirov@neo.rr.com> wrote: > > Subject: Kolb-List: RE: Bourke engine gibberish > To: "Kolb-List Digest Server" <kolb-list@matronics.com> > Date: Thursday, January 29, 2015, 7:59 AM > > > > > > Im getting gibberish also. Im > using windows 7 and Windows > live email > Michael Velemirov > Twinstar Mk II > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:30:26 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Wankel
    From: "woody" <n3022.176@gmail.com>
    I believe that Mazda still puts a Wankel rotary engine in their RX-8. A car that will outrun anything in it's class including the Porches. I've watched this firsthand at Barbers road course in Leeds, AL. The engine, with two turbochargers, puts out tremendous HP & torque. Nobody can stay with them, coming out of the tight turns or on the long straights. I imagine these engines to be expensive to buy & feed as 2 stroke engines are notorious gas guzzlers. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=437818#437818


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    Time: 08:15:18 AM PST US
    From: Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Wankel
    On 1/29/2015 9:30 AM, woody wrote: > > I believe that Mazda still puts a Wankel rotary engine in their RX-8. > A car that will outrun anything in it's class including the Porches. > I've watched this firsthand at Barbers road course in Leeds, AL. > The engine, with two turbochargers, puts out tremendous HP & torque. > Nobody can stay with them, coming out of the tight turns or on the long straights. > I imagine these engines to be expensive to buy & feed as 2 stroke engines > are notorious gas guzzlers. > > Yes, very light and quick, and not, not, and not. The twin turbo was the last generation RX7; the RX8 (Renesis powered) was normally aspirated (no turbo option). Unfortunately, the RX8 is no longer produced, and Mazda is not currently selling rotary powered cars, to my knowledge (definitely not in the USA). I previously sent links to two potential new rotary products from Mazda, a small (~300cc) 'sustainer' engine for a hybrid car (should be just about perfect for a Kolb), and the 16B, a larger displacement (1600cc), all aluminum rotary intended for a new sports car. The latter has us aviating rotor heads salivating. It will likely be around 250-275 HP normally aspirated, and the core engine will weigh around 120-130 lbs (the Renesis core weighs around 190 lbs & produces around 200 HP). Remember, those weights are for bare engines; what a V-8 builder would call a 'long block'. All up for flight, with radiator, oil cooler, etc, a Renesis weighs around 330-340 lbs. The weight & HP numbers for the Renesis are 'real world', proven-in-a/c numbers, not marketing hype from someone trying to sell you worthless stock options. The engines are relatively inexpensive from salvage yards; typically a few hundred dollars for the old 13B engines and from a few hundred to under a couple thousand for Renesis engines in near new condition. Fuel economy is slightly worse (~10%) than piston engines, but the normally aspirated engines prefer the lowest octane fuel you can find. And they are --not-repeat-not-- 2 stroke engines. They go through a normal 4 stroke power cycle just like a piston engine; but do all 4 strokes in one rev of the rotor. Engineers often call them 'rotary combustion' engines, since the combustion process travels around the engine as it occurs. I wouldn't claim to be an authority, but I am familiar with them; I've owned two RX-7's, I'm installing a Renesis in an RV-7 & I have a lot of friends already flying rotaries. If anyone wants more info, just let me know. Thanks, Charlie


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    Time: 08:22:02 AM PST US
    Subject: RE: Bourke engine gibberish
    From: Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
    Hi Dave, This reply is from my Samsung Galaxy S4 (android) using the K9 email app. Can everyone read it? On January 29, 2015 8:46:02 AM CST, undoctor <undoctor@ptd.net> wrote: >Hi Michael, >From the info I've read I've come to the conclusion it's a result of >using my Android somewhat smart phone to post rather than my PC. That >being the case I'll try to use my PC. > >Starting tomorrow... > >Dave Kulp >Bethlehem, PA > >Do not archive > > >Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone > ><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Michael >Velemirov <mvelemirov@neo.rr.com> </div><div>Date:01/29/2015 7:59 AM >(GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: Kolb-List Digest Server ><kolb-list@matronics.com> </div><div>Subject: Kolb-List: RE: Bourke >engine gibberish </div><div> ></div>Im getting gibberish also. Im using windows 7 and Windows live >email >Michael Velemirov >Twinstar Mk II > > -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.


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    Time: 10:31:58 AM PST US
    From: william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net>
    Subject: RE: Bourke engine gibberish
    Yes- all in the clear, no code. do not archive. -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 1/29/15, Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com> wrote: Subject: RE: Kolb-List: RE: Bourke engine gibberish To: kolb-list@matronics.com Date: Thursday, January 29, 2015, 11:21 AM Hi Dave, This reply is from my Samsung Galaxy S4 (android) using the K9 email app. Can everyone read it? On January 29, 2015 8:46:02 AM CST, undoctor <undoctor@ptd.net> wrote: Hi Michael,From the info I've read I've come to the conclusion it's a result of using my Android somewhat smart phone to post rather than my PC. That being the case I'll try to use my PC. Starting tomorrow... Dave KulpBethlehem, PA Do not archive Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone -------- Original message --------From: Michael Velemirov Date:01/29/2015 7:59 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Kolb-List Digest Server Subject: Kolb-List: RE: Bourke engine gibberish Im getting gibberish also. Im using windows 7 and Windows live email Michael Velemirov Twinstar Mk II ~, -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.




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