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Tue 02/17/15


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     1. 01:49 AM - Re: new camera mount- version 3 (Tony &Heather Oldman)
     2. 06:54 AM - Re: new camera mount- version 3 (Stuart Harner)
     3. 08:17 AM - Re: new camera mount- version 3 (Patrick Ladd)
     4. 03:55 PM - Re: new camera mount- version 3 (Larry Cottrell)
     5. 04:11 PM - Re: new camera mount- version 3 (kinne russ)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:49:33 AM PST US
    From: Tony &Heather Oldman <aoldman@xtra.co.nz>
    Subject: Re: new camera mount- version 3
    Then go for it Pat. If it dosnt put you in the soup kitchen then it will be worth every penny,I lost two good friends on a training flight about 3 wee ks ago. The instructor on that flight tought me to fly over 20 years ago. J ack was 86 years young had flown most things and had many aviation awards f or his years of instruction and dedication to aviation,his pilots license w as 75 years old at the time of the accident, =C2-. His teachings included aviation is fun, go have safe fun .The student on that flight was a senior police officer ,he loved to fly . I had taken him for a flight in the Kolb about 3 weeks before the accident ,he loved it. Who could not like the way a Kolb flys ?Not trying to be morbid , just saying do it while you are abl e, none of us know what is around the corner ,=C2-So if you have the mean s go do it. I expect a debrief.=C2- Regards=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2-Downunder=C2- =C2- =C2 - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- M K111c and not flying enough =C2- On Monday, 16 February 2015 11:45 PM, Patrick Ladd <patrickjladd@hotma il.com> wrote: Hi Larry,welcome back. Glad that your operation is sorting itself out more quickly than expected. Your camera mount seems perfect. It even dealt with the vibration when you were on the ground.=C2- Wx in the UK has been pre tty good. In the south we have had not winter yet although Scotland and the North of England have had some snow. Nothing that persisted beyond a coupl e of days. Overcast and rain today but we have had several long periods of nil wind and good flying weather with a large high pressure area over us.No flying for me any more I am afraid although i am trying to convince myself that my bank book would stand a half hour flight in a Spitfire.=C2- I fl ew a Mustang for an hour in Kissimmee many years ago and I have managed to get into a couple of T6`s and a couple of jets over the years and I would d early love to add the Spitfire. Heigh Ho.=C2- Pat=C2-http://forums.matr onics.com _p;=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- generous bsp;=C2-=C2 -=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- href="http://www.matronics.com/contributio n">http://www.matronics.com/c=============== =


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    Time: 06:54:20 AM PST US
    From: "Stuart Harner" <stuart@harnerfarm.net>
    Subject: new camera mount- version 3
    Larry, Nice video, and thanks for giving us that live in winter something to look forward to. It is interesting that the most stable spot you have found is at the far forward point of the nose. One would think that the long moment arms on the airframe would be the most sensitive to aircraft vibrations, wing tips, tail, and nose, while the closer you got to the center of mass, the more stable it would be. You said that the camera was pointed down at about 13 degrees. Curious, 13 degrees from what? Level flight, ground stance, fuselage? Whatever it is, it worked pretty well. Single digits temperature and strong gusty winds in central ND today, so just left with watching and dreaming. Keep them coming! Stuart Firefly Serenity From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Cottrell Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 10:45 PM Subject: Kolb-List: new camera mount- version 3 As you might recall, I had a bone spur removed from one of my feet. The healing process has gone a bit better than the Doc thought it should. I am not able to do any extended walking, but within reason, things are fine. I realize that most of you poor souls are experiencing Global warming at its best. Apparently there isn't a large enough population here where I live to adversely affect the climate, so we are having our usual nice two weeks or so of great weather here in the West. Today was 61 degrees with no wind. The wife is out of town for the weekend, so there was no one to tell me that I shouldn't fly yet. You should look at today's video and be reassured that even your shitty weather will also pass. I have found that the only thing that stays the same is -every thing changes. The Virb camera that I have recently bought seemed a bit more difficult to get good smooth video than the Drift that I had been using. The Virb seems to have a bit clearer picture, and I do like the track and speed feature on it as well. So I want to make it my main camera. I tried it on the wing, and I have to hold it at a certain speed to keep the shake and jello out of it. I put it back on the nose, and had the same problem. The speed that the video was the least shaky at, was just a bit too slow for comfortable "yanking and banking". The next best speed was full throttle. Also not what I really wanted. Having nothing to occupy my time these last few weeks other than ice packs and TV, I formed the thought that the bar of Alum that I had fixed to fit behind the pitot tube holder and the nose pf the pod, might be contributing to the shakes. So this morning I dug out my virb box and got one of the sticky pads that they had for a helmet mount. I stuck it on the nose pod, fixed up a safety wire just in case, and tried my best to wait the recommended 24 hours for the base to be "firmly" attached. Well, I did my best, but if I was ever going to have "patients", I would have been a Doctor. I finally couldn't stand it any longer and rolled the plane out. I could have stuck it out of sight under the nose pod, if I had thought of it before, but I don't mind it up on top, although I do think it is raising hell with my "yarn" slip indicator. The video is the most steady through out the full throttle range that I have found yet, and of course I had a great time. Hang in there guys, better times are coming. <https://vimeo.com/119720660?utm_source=email&utm_medium=clip-transco de_complete-finished-20120100&utm_campaign=7701&email_id=Y2xpcF90cmFu c2NvZGVkfGY4MGU5Yzk5ZTYwODY0NWE0MWFhMzg0NWJlYzMwZTY1NDM2fDc2NDA2NDl8MTQyN DA2MTU3MXw3NzAx> https://vimeo.com/119720660 password- owyheeflyer Larry -- If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.


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    Time: 08:17:20 AM PST US
    From: Patrick Ladd <patrickjladd@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: new camera mount- version 3
    Hi Tony <<,I lost two good friends on a training flight about 3 weeks ago>> That is really rough. Commiserations. I lost two friends as well, many years ago. I had just started gliding, probably not solo. A friend who joined the club with me was with an instructor practicing `cable breaks`. If you have no gliding experience that is the equivalent of engine failure on take off. The last thing anyone heard was the instructor saying `Now, safety above all things`. The glider took off and at around 400ft the instructor disconnected the cable. The runway was a mile and a quarter and used by Stirling and Horsa glider combination during the war so the pilot had only to put his nose down, maintain speed and land. He elected to return to the launch point where we expected him to do a down wind landing as there was plenty of room. At around 100feet he tried to turn back into wind. Didn`t get his bank steep enough and his inside wing stalled and he spun in. Killed instantly. The instructor died a couple of days later. Cause of the accident was never established. we assumed that the P2 froze on the controls and the instructor could not over ride him. Very sad and made worse as it was Boxing Day. Thanks for the urging to have a go at the Spitfire flight. I must plan a campaign and start leaving posts encouraging me to to fly around the house. Cheers Pat From: Tony &Heather Oldman Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 9:48 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: new camera mount- version 3 Then go for it Pat. If it dosnt put you in the soup kitchen then it will be worth every penny,I lost two good friends on a training flight about 3 weeks ago. The instructor on that flight tought me to fly over 20 years ago. Jack was 86 years young had flown most things and had many aviation awards for his years of instruction and dedication to aviation,his pilots license was 75 years old at the time of the accident, . His teachings included aviation is fun, go have safe fun .The student on that flight was a senior police officer ,he loved to fly .. I had taken him for a flight in the Kolb about 3 weeks before the accident ,he loved it. Who could not like the way a Kolb flys ? Not trying to be morbid , just saying do it while you are able, none of us know what is around the corner , So if you have the means go do it. I expect a debrief. Regards Downunder MK111c and not flying enough On Monday, 16 February 2015 11:45 PM, Patrick Ladd <patrickjladd@hotmail.com> wrote: Hi Larry, welcome back. Glad that your operation is sorting itself out more quickly than expected. Your camera mount seems perfect. It even dealt with the vibration when you were on the ground. Wx in the UK has been pretty good. In the south we have had not winter yet although Scotland and the North of England have had some snow. Nothing that persisted beyond a couple of days. Overcast and rain today but we have had several long periods of nil wind and good flying weather with a large high pressure area over us. No flying for me any more I am afraid although i am trying to convince myself that my bank book would stand a half hour flight in a Spitfire. I flew a Mustang for an hour in Kissimmee many years ago and I have managed to get into a couple of T6`s and a couple of jets over the years and I would dearly love to add the Spitfire. Heigh Ho. Pat http://forums.matronics.com _p; generous bsp; href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ================ ronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-L ist matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com ronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 03:55:10 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: new camera mount- version 3
    From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
    On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 7:53 AM, Stuart Harner <stuart@harnerfarm.net> wrote: > Larry, > > > Nice video, and thanks for giving us that live in winter something to look > forward to. > > > It is interesting that the most stable spot you have found is at the far > forward point of the nose. One would think that the long moment arms on the > airframe would be the most sensitive to aircraft vibrations, wing tips, > tail, and nose, while the closer you got to the center of mass, the more > stable it would be. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > What causes the "Jello" and other problems is the vibration. The closer to > the engine the more you get. There are certain rpm ranges that the harmonic > vibrations dampen out. The nose pod had the least amount of vibration. > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > You said that the camera was pointed down at about 13 degrees. Curious, 13 > degrees from what? Level flight, ground stance, fuselage? Whatever it is, > it worked pretty well. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > It was level with the ground. The Elite has a feature that shows when it is level side to side and forward and aft. As well as the number of degrees it is off. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Single digits temperature and strong gusty winds in central ND today, so > just left with watching and dreaming. > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Hang in there it will get there. Larry > > > Keep them coming! > > > Stuart > > Firefly Serenity > > > -- > > *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email > address before sending.* > > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List>* > > *http://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com>* > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution <http://www.matronics.com/contribution>* > > > * > > > * > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.*


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    Time: 04:11:37 PM PST US
    From: kinne russ <russk50@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: new camera mount- version 3
    Pat - go for it, ole friend! I=99ll be right behind you, jealous as hell Fair winds, Russ > On Feb 16, 2015, at 5:41 AM, Patrick Ladd <patrickjladd@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Larry, > welcome back. Glad that your operation is sorting itself out more quickly than expected. Your camera mount seems perfect. It even dealt with the vibration when you were on the ground. Wx in the UK has been pretty good. In the south we have had not winter yet although Scotland and the North of England have had some snow. Nothing that persisted beyond a couple of days. Overcast and rain today but we have had several long periods of nil wind and good flying weather with a large high pressure area over us. > No flying for me any more I am afraid although i am trying to convince myself that my bank book would stand a half hour flight in a Spitfire. I flew a Mustang for an hour in Kissimmee many years ago and I have managed to get into a couple of T6`s and a couple of jets over the years and I would dearly love to add the Spitfire. Heigh Ho. Pat > > http://forums.matronics.com > _p; generous bsp; href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c= =============== > > > <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> >




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