---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 04/05/15: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:49 AM - Re: Latex Paint Forum at Sun N Fun (Patrick Ladd) 2. 06:09 AM - Confidence building flight (Stuart Harner) 3. 06:40 AM - Re: Confidence building flight (Herb) 4. 07:51 AM - Re: Confidence building flight (Rick Neilsen) 5. 08:18 AM - Re: Confidence building flight (Stuart Harner) 6. 08:29 AM - Re: Confidence building flight (John Hauck) 7. 08:29 AM - Re: Confidence building flight (Herb) 8. 08:41 AM - Re: Confidence building flight (John Hauck) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:49:39 AM PST US From: Patrick Ladd Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Latex Paint Forum at Sun N Fun John. Terrible news. Went for my simulator flight yesterday in a Piper Arrow. Shot two circuits and missed the blood runway each time and pancaked in a field. Instructors said I was ``a little rusty.` It was disgraceful. I shall have to check out a real plane just to prove to myself that I can still do it. Hanging my head in shame. Pat From: John Hauck Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 3:13 PM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Latex Paint Forum at Sun N Fun Patrick: I certainly remember your trip to Sun and Fun, and also to Monument Valley. Those were some very good years. Never thought they would end. john h MKIII Titus, Alabama From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Ladd Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 3:43 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Latex Paint Forum at Sun N Fun Have a good trip John. As a non flyer now I have the next best thing coming up this afternoon. I am booked in for a Simulator flight at a local airfield. A poor substitute but there you go. Pat From: John Hauck Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 12:07 AM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Latex Paint Forum at Sun N Fun Kolbers: I plan to fly Miss P'fer, my MKIII, to Sun and Fun 2015. If I make it to Lakeland it will be my 32d consecutive visit. The Kolb Gang has graciously offered me and Miss P'fer a corner of their display area to live in for the week. Kolb display is located on the left as you enter the main gate at Paradise City. Hope to see a bunch of you all down there. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama I will be presenting the Latex Paint forum at this years Sun N Fun flyin in Lakeland, FL. It will be on Tuesday the 21st at noon in classroom 11. I will be flying down from PA with a friend in his Aerotrek and will be helping out at the Aerotrek display also. Hope to meet some of you there. Malcolm Morrison www.wienerdogaero.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Kolb-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://foru ms.matronics.comhref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www .matronics.com/c - The Kolb-List Email Forum - --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - --> http://forums.matronics.com - List Contribution Web Site - Thank you for your generous support! -Matt Dralle, List Admin. --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:09:34 AM PST US From: "Stuart Harner" Subject: Kolb-List: Confidence building flight Hi everyone, Managed to get out last evening and un-winterize the Firefly. It started on the first pull! Made two fast taxi trips up to flying speed, then took off for real. There was a little wind shear turbulence at 2 to 4 hundred feet, but it was light. Made it around just fine, but got a little high. Used a little slip on final to take care of that and kept some throttle on all the way down. Rounded out the descent and planted it firmly on two wheels with no bounce. So much fun I did it again. Same results. Now it is time to get serious and fly, fly, fly. Happy Easter! S ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:40:57 AM PST US From: Herb Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Confidence building flight Way to go Stuart!! Frosty morn down here in Ky... Fred and I will always feel a part of your flying... did you remove the electric start? someone may had said...the engine will break in noticeably in the 40 hour range... Herb ps anyone know anything about installing a VW on a Kolb?? :-) On 04/05/2015 08:09 AM, Stuart Harner wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > Managed to get out last evening and un-winterize the Firefly. It > started on the first pull! > > Made two fast taxi trips up to flying speed, then took off for real. > There was a little wind shear turbulence at 2 to 4 hundred feet, but > it was light. Made it around just fine, but got a little high. Used > a little slip on final to take care of that and kept some throttle on > all the way down. Rounded out the descent and planted it firmly on two > wheels with no bounce. > > So much fun I did it again. Same results. > > Now it is time to get serious and fly, fly, fly. > > Happy Easter! > > S > > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:51:14 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Confidence building flight From: Rick Neilsen Taxi trips to flying speed aren't recommended for new or rusty pilots. Without a aggressive forward stick movement as the throttle is retarded will result in the aircraft lifting off with little power. Herb, yes there are a growing number of VWs on Kolbs. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIC On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Herb wrote: > Way to go Stuart!! Frosty morn down here in Ky... Fred and I will always > feel a part of your flying... > > did you remove the electric start? > > someone may had said...the engine will break in noticeably in the 40 > hour range... Herb > > ps anyone know anything about installing a VW on a Kolb?? :-) > > On 04/05/2015 08:09 AM, Stuart Harner wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > Managed to get out last evening and un-winterize the Firefly. It started > on the first pull! > > > Made two fast taxi trips up to flying speed, then took off for real. > There was a little wind shear turbulence at 2 to 4 hundred feet, but it was > light. Made it around just fine, but got a little high. Used a little > slip on final to take care of that and kept some throttle on all the way > down. Rounded out the descent and planted it firmly on two wheels with no > bounce. > > > So much fun I did it again. Same results. > > > Now it is time to get serious and fly, fly, fly. > > > Happy Easter! > > > S > > > * > > > * > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:18:39 AM PST US From: "Stuart Harner" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Confidence building flight No, you kept the started and installed the recoil unit. I start the cold engine by squeezing the bulb until gas gets to carb, then two shots of primer into port on carb, throttle closed, enricher to full. Pull rope, engine starts. Thanks for the great deal on this engine Herb, I really like it. One thing I have found is that if I start it and let it warm up (CHT at 200=B0 +) while standing beside it, I can shut it off, get all strapped in and then start it up again from the seat. This is a nice feature to not be trying to get into a running plane. I tried it cold, but could not get enough pull to get it to start. Better leverage standing up with my left hand on the leading edge. More to come! Stuart From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Herb Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 8:40 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Confidence building flight Way to go Stuart!! Frosty morn down here in Ky... Fred and I will always feel a part of your flying... did you remove the electric start? someone may had said...the engine will break in noticeably in the 40 hour range... Herb ps anyone know anything about installing a VW on a Kolb?? :-) On 04/05/2015 08:09 AM, Stuart Harner wrote: Hi everyone, Managed to get out last evening and un-winterize the Firefly. It started on the first pull! Made two fast taxi trips up to flying speed, then took off for real. There was a little wind shear turbulence at 2 to 4 hundred feet, but it was light. Made it around just fine, but got a little high. Used a little slip on final to take care of that and kept some throttle on all the way down. Rounded out the descent and planted it firmly on two wheels with no bounce. So much fun I did it again. Same results. Now it is time to get serious and fly, fly, fly. Happy Easter! S ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:29:21 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Confidence building flight Rick: How are we doing on VW powered Kolbs, number wise? I was up at the Kolb Co a couple weeks ago. There was a VW powered MKIII in the process of final build. Don't know of any VW powered airplanes, Kolbs or not, in my neck of the woods. Heard there is a VW powered MKIII in Idaho, in the building process. I'm grounded until I get my main gear mounts and legs back from Kolb. Hoping for next week. Only two weeks until time to fly to Lakeland. My how time flies when one is getting older. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Neilsen Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 9:51 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Confidence building flight Taxi trips to flying speed aren't recommended for new or rusty pilots. Without a aggressive forward stick movement as the throttle is retarded will result in the aircraft lifting off with little power. Herb, yes there are a growing number of VWs on Kolbs. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIC ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:29:35 AM PST US From: Herb Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Confidence building flight Now I am wondering what I did with it??? Forgetful old fart , Herb On 04/05/2015 10:18 AM, Stuart Harner wrote: > > No, you kept the started and installed the recoil unit. > > I start the cold engine by squeezing the bulb until gas gets to carb, > then two shots of primer into port on carb, throttle closed, enricher > to full. Pull rope, engine starts. > > Thanks for the great deal on this engine Herb, I really like it. > > One thing I have found is that if I start it and let it warm up (CHT > at 200 +) while standing beside it, I can shut it off, get all > strapped in and then start it up again from the seat. This is a nice > feature to not be trying to get into a running plane. I tried it cold, > but could not get enough pull to get it to start. Better leverage > standing up with my left hand on the leading edge. > > More to come! > > Stuart > > *From:*owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Herb > *Sent:* Sunday, April 05, 2015 8:40 AM > *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: Kolb-List: Confidence building flight > > Way to go Stuart!! Frosty morn down here in Ky... Fred and I will > always feel a part of your flying... > > did you remove the electric start? > > someone may had said...the engine will break in noticeably in the 40 > hour range... Herb > > ps anyone know anything about installing a VW on a Kolb?? :-) > > On 04/05/2015 08:09 AM, Stuart Harner wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > Managed to get out last evening and un-winterize the Firefly. It > started on the first pull! > > Made two fast taxi trips up to flying speed, then took off for > real. There was a little wind shear turbulence at 2 to 4 hundred > feet, but it was light. Made it around just fine, but got a little > high. Used a little slip on final to take care of that and kept > some throttle on all the way down. Rounded out the descent and > planted it firmly on two wheels with no bounce. > > So much fun I did it again. Same results. > > Now it is time to get serious and fly, fly, fly. > > Happy Easter! > > S > > * * > > * * > > * * > > * *Matronics List Features Navigator to & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, -->http://www.matronic================= > http://forums.matronics.com > - List Contribution Web > Site -Matt Dralle, > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > * * > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:41:00 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Confidence building flight Stuart: This is a good point to remember if one is going to do engine off flight with an in air restart. I learned the hard way. Brand new Firestar, 1987. Was thrilled because I could restart from the cockpit. Of course I didn't trying cranking a cold engine while seated. About the second day of flight on the new bird. Climbed to 3,000 feet over a very large hay field. Shut down the engine, glided to 1,500 feet. Pulled the recoil starter. Fired off, easy. That was so much fun I climbed to 5,000 feet, shut down, and glided to 1,000 feet. After several attempts to restart I realized the engine had cooled quickly and it wasn't going to happen. Thank goodness I made a good decision to do my testing over a good forced landing area. Made my first forced landing in my new Firestar. I liked to do engine off flight in my Ultrastar, but when the engine was shut down, or if I killed it horsing around, it was an automatic forced landing. On the ground I had to get out of the aircraft to restart. This meant dealing with 4 point harness and parachute bridal on my Jim Handbury hand deployed parachute. A royal pain in the butt. Happy Easter, everyone! john h mkIII Titus, Alabama One thing I have found is that if I start it and let it warm up (CHT at 200=B0 +) while standing beside it, I can shut it off, get all strapped in and then start it up again from the seat. This is a nice feature to not be trying to get into a running plane. I tried it cold, but could not get enough pull to get it to start. Better leverage standing up with my left hand on the leading edge. More to come! 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