---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 05/16/15: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:30 AM - Re: firefly cables (Ducati SS) 2. 08:09 AM - Re: firefly cables (Stuart Harner) 3. 02:08 PM - MKIII Classic construction drawings online (Richard Pike) 4. 02:31 PM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 8 Msgs - 05/15/15 (Jules) 5. 02:31 PM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 8 Msgs - 05/15/15 (Jules) 6. 04:32 PM - Re: firefly cables (Herb) 7. 07:25 PM - Re: Re: firefly cables (chris davis) 8. 09:18 PM - Re: firefly cables (Stuart Harner) 9. 09:18 PM - Re: Re: firefly cables (Stuart Harner) 10. 10:10 PM - Re: firefly cables (Larry Cottrell) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:30:00 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: firefly cables From: "Ducati SS" Go to page 7 of this list and open Kolbd detail photos. Pictures of stick connections, turn buckles and boom pulley. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442165#442165 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:09:55 AM PST US From: "Stuart Harner" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: firefly cables Here are some greatly reduced images. Hopefully they are what you need. If you want to see the original files email me directly and I can send them to you. They are about 1.5 MB each. Stuart From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of chris davis Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 10:30 PM Subject: Kolb-List: firefly cables Hi KOLBERS as you may know i am building a handicap Kolb Firefly . it id the second Kolb Ivhave buit my firstwas a Fiestar fat and fast .I have a request does anybodyvhave a picture of thier Firefly cables after they leave the stick and rudder pedals they go overfour pulleys then under four pulleys then into the fusalage tube .My prblem is thwt ill cant find a plan or an explanaton of how the first four are rigged TRAVIS has sent me plans and a new construction kanual as I.had to move my roject from Fl. To Ma. And somehow it disapeared Travis said they use washrs to pace them but the angle seems wrongvthe cables don travel strait over the pulley when you run them throughvth next set so a PIC or two would help a lot TRAVIS Said tha BRIAN changed the design since the plans were drawn? Thankq you CHRIS DAVIS Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android k ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:08:07 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: MKIII Classic construction drawings online From: "Richard Pike" I hope this will be a useful resource. http://oh2fly.net/oldpoops/Lexan%20rear%20enclosure.html -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Kingsport, TN 3TN0 There are two kinds of people: those who say to God, 'Thy will be done,' and those to whom God says, 'All right, then, have it your way.' Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442170#442170 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:31:16 PM PST US From: Jules Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 8 Msgs - 05/15/15 I am trying to reschedule to attend but will probably be late. On May 16, 2015, at 2:03 AM, Kolb-List Digest Server wrote: * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete Kolb-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Kolb-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 15-05-15&Archive=Kolb Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 15-05-15&Archive=Kolb =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 05/15/15: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:58 AM - Re: Horizontal stab position (Frankd) 2. 10:00 AM - Re: Firefly quick build and Danny Day (Malcolm Brubaker) 3. 10:05 AM - Re: Firefly quick build and Danny Day (Malcolm Brubaker) 4. 10:51 AM - Re: Horizontal stab position (Rex Rodebush) 5. 12:30 PM - Re: Firefly quick build and Danny Day (Herb) 6. 01:28 PM - Re: Firefly quick build and Danny Day (Malcolm Brubaker) 7. 08:30 PM - firefly cables (chris davis) 8. 10:49 PM - Re: Re: Horizontal stab position (Tony Malins) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:58:25 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Horizontal stab position From: "Frankd" Hi Tony, Before you change anything, how did the plane fly? I had an issue like this on my MkIII Xtra that made the aircraft unsafe to fly, but if the flight went well on your aircraft maybe there are no changes to be made. Now, like John H mentioned, if the aircraft needed full up trim then maybe the Horz Stab angle is set incorrectly. But all these planes are a little different to each other and I would review the flight handling first before making any change. Also, make small changes using washers, etc, if you can, until you get it dialed in. Safe flying. FrankD N1014S, MkIIIXtra. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442132#442132 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:00:58 AM PST US From: Malcolm Brubaker Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firefly quick build and Danny Day if you give me the diameter of the tail spring =C2-I may have a pice of 7 0_75 alum also Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker Michigan Sport Pilot Repair http://michigansportpilotrepair.comLSRM-A, PPC, WS Great Sails - Sailmaker for Ultralight & Light Sport (989)513-3022=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- From: Herb Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:50 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Firefly quick build and Danny Day Trying to locate Danny Day...mentioned in an UL news article a few weeks back... Engine rebuilder in Phoenix Arizona...I have two engines which have had the Rotax label removed and his name and probably a serial number engraved on a copper plate installed in its place... I need to know the history of these engines.. for I bought them and a Kolb Firefly quick build and a Trike from an estate in LA County California...I suspect that they are fresh rebuilds or low time engines...but cannot be sure...one is a 447 that looks new...the other is a nice running 503... I plan to sell the trike and and the 503 and finish the Firefly...and keep the 447 for it... =C2- Thus far , I am missing motor mounts, rudder and elevator cables. tail wheel rod, seat webbing,right axle.=C2- Likely in a box that went to the L.A. county landfill! :-)=C2- Herb S - - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:05:32 AM PST US From: Malcolm Brubaker Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firefly quick build and Danny Day Herb I have a set of new =C2-firefly axils ,a folding wing holder, the pa rt that sits on the boom tube and can sew a seat for you. I also have a win d screen =C2-call or email off list for moor info=C2-=C2- the Danny D ay thing is a mystery to me! Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker Michigan Sport Pilot Repair http://michigansportpilotrepair.comLSRM-A, PPC, WS Great Sails - Sailmaker for Ultralight & Light Sport (989)513-3022=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- From: Herb Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:50 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Firefly quick build and Danny Day Trying to locate Danny Day...mentioned in an UL news article a few weeks back... Engine rebuilder in Phoenix Arizona...I have two engines which have had the Rotax label removed and his name and probably a serial number engraved on a copper plate installed in its place... I need to know the history of these engines.. for I bought them and a Kolb Firefly quick build and a Trike from an estate in LA County California...I suspect that they are fresh rebuilds or low time engines...but cannot be sure...one is a 447 that looks new...the other is a nice running 503... I plan to sell the trike and and the 503 and finish the Firefly...and keep the 447 for it... =C2- Thus far , I am missing motor mounts, rudder and elevator cables. tail wheel rod, seat webbing,right axle.=C2- Likely in a box that went to the L.A. county landfill! :-)=C2- Herb S - - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:51:55 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Horizontal stab position From: "Rex Rodebush" The L.E. position of the horiz. stab. has been changed several times since the Xtra came out. I set mine per instructions from Brian at TNK and it has worked great. I think it was given in degrees using the motor mounts as a base. He also gave me the wing angle based on the same. I used a digital level. Call Travis or Brian for information. Rex (will have my 40 hours flown off by this summer) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442140#442140 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:30:14 PM PST US From: Herb Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firefly quick build and Danny Day Quite a few small parts missing...and I was promised a box of parts from California that were left behind...gonna wait on that ...... plus I will be at the Kolb factory next week...so will save shipping...Herb > On 05/15/2015 07:59 AM, Malcolm Brubaker wrote: > if you give me the diameter of the tail spring I may have a pice of > 70_75 alum also > Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker > Michigan Sport Pilot Repair > *http://michigansportpilotrepair.com* > > LSRM-A, PPC, WS > Great Sails - Sailmaker > for Ultralight & Light Sport > (989)513-3022 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Herb > *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:50 PM > *Subject:* Kolb-List: Firefly quick build and Danny Day > > > > > > Trying to locate Danny Day...mentioned in an UL news article a few weeks > back... Engine rebuilder in Phoenix Arizona...I have two engines which > have had the Rotax label removed and his name and probably a serial > number engraved on a copper plate installed in its place... I need to > know the history of these engines.. for I bought them and a Kolb Firefly > quick build and a Trike from an estate in LA County California...I > suspect that they are fresh rebuilds or low time engines...but cannot be > sure...one is a 447 that looks new...the other is a nice running 503... > I plan to sell the trike and and the 503 and finish the Firefly...and > keep the 447 for it... > > Thus far , I am missing motor mounts, rudder and elevator cables. > tail wheel rod, seat webbing,right axle. Likely in a box that went to > the L.A. county lb-List" > target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-Lista > href="http://forums.matronics.com/" target="_blank">http://forums.mat > &nbs//www.matronics.com/contribution" > target="_blank">http://www.matronics.co================ > > > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:28:31 PM PST US From: Malcolm Brubaker Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firefly quick build and Danny Day thes parts I have are new 10 years old =C2-never installed=C2-=C2- I got them from an estate sail in Michigan ill sell them cheep=C2- so let m e know Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker Michigan Sport Pilot Repair http://michigansportpilotrepair.comLSRM-A, PPC, WS Great Sails - Sailmaker for Ultralight & Light Sport (989)513-3022=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- From: Herb Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 3:29 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firefly quick build and Danny Day Quite a few small parts missing...and I was promised a box of parts from California that were left behind...gonna wait on that ...... plus=C2- I w ill be at the Kolb factory next week...so will save shipping...Herb=C2- On 05/15/2015 07:59 AM, Malcolm Brubaker wrote: if you give me the diameter of the tail spring =C2-I may have a pice o f 70_75 alum also Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker Michigan Sport Pilot Repair http://michigansportpilotrepair.com LSRM-A, P PC, WS Great Sails - Sailmaker for Ultralight & Light Sport (989)513-3022 =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- From: Herb Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:50 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Firefly quick build and Danny Day Trying to locate Danny Day...mentioned in an UL news article a few weeks back... Engine rebuilder in Phoenix Arizona...I have two engines which have had the Rotax label removed and his name and probably a serial number engraved on a copper plate installed in its place... I need to know the history of these engines.. for I bought them and a Kolb Firefly quick build and a Trike from an estate in LA County California...I suspect that they are fresh rebuilds or low time engines...but cannot be sure...one is a 447 that looks new...the other is a nice running 503... I plan to sell the trike and and the 503 and finish the Firefly...and keep the 447 for it... =C2- Thus far , I am missing motor mounts, rudder and elevator cables. tail wheel rod, seat webbing,right axle.=C2- Likely in a box that went t o the L.A. county lb-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Naviga tor?Kolb-Lista href="http://forums.matronics.com/" target="_blank">http ://forums.mat =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2 - =C2- &nbs//www.matronics.com/contribution" target="_blank">http://w ww.matronics.co================ ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:30:42 PM PST US From: chris davis Subject: Kolb-List: firefly cables =0AHi KOLBERS as you may know i am building a handicap Kolb Firefly . it id the second Kolb Ivhave buit my firstwas a Fiestar fat and fast .I have a r equest does anybodyvhave a picture of thier Firefly cables after they leave the stick and rudder pedals they go overfour pulleys then under four pulle ys then into the fusalage tube .My prblem is thwt ill-=0A=0A=0A-cant fi nd a plan or an explanaton -of how the first four are rigged TRAVIS has s ent me plans and a new construction kanual as I.had to move my roject from Fl. To Ma. And somehow it disapeared Travis said they use washrs to pace th em but the angle seems wrongvthe cables -don travel strait over the pulle y when you run them throughvth next set so a PIC or two would help a lot TR AVIS Said tha BRIAN -changed the design since the plans were drawn?=0A=0A Thankq you CHRIS DAVIS=0A=0ASent from Yahoo Mail on Androidk=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:49:26 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Horizontal stab position From: Tony Malins Thanks for the info Rex. Will do that. Cheers Tony > On 16/05/2015 12:54 AM, "Rex Rodebush" wrote: > > > The L.E. position of the horiz. stab. has been changed several times since > the Xtra came out. I set mine per instructions from Brian at TNK and it > has worked great. I think it was given in degrees using the motor mounts > as a base. He also gave me the wing angle based on the same. I used a > digital level. Call Travis or Brian for information. > > Rex (will have my 40 hours flown off by this summer) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442140#442140 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:31:26 PM PST US From: Jules Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 8 Msgs - 05/15/15 I am trying to reschedule to attend but will probably be late. On May 16, 2015, at 2:03 AM, Kolb-List Digest Server wrote: * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete Kolb-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Kolb-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 15-05-15&Archive=Kolb Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 15-05-15&Archive=Kolb =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 05/15/15: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:58 AM - Re: Horizontal stab position (Frankd) 2. 10:00 AM - Re: Firefly quick build and Danny Day (Malcolm Brubaker) 3. 10:05 AM - Re: Firefly quick build and Danny Day (Malcolm Brubaker) 4. 10:51 AM - Re: Horizontal stab position (Rex Rodebush) 5. 12:30 PM - Re: Firefly quick build and Danny Day (Herb) 6. 01:28 PM - Re: Firefly quick build and Danny Day (Malcolm Brubaker) 7. 08:30 PM - firefly cables (chris davis) 8. 10:49 PM - Re: Re: Horizontal stab position (Tony Malins) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:58:25 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Horizontal stab position From: "Frankd" Hi Tony, Before you change anything, how did the plane fly? I had an issue like this on my MkIII Xtra that made the aircraft unsafe to fly, but if the flight went well on your aircraft maybe there are no changes to be made. Now, like John H mentioned, if the aircraft needed full up trim then maybe the Horz Stab angle is set incorrectly. But all these planes are a little different to each other and I would review the flight handling first before making any change. Also, make small changes using washers, etc, if you can, until you get it dialed in. Safe flying. FrankD N1014S, MkIIIXtra. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442132#442132 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:00:58 AM PST US From: Malcolm Brubaker Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firefly quick build and Danny Day if you give me the diameter of the tail spring =C2-I may have a pice of 7 0_75 alum also Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker Michigan Sport Pilot Repair http://michigansportpilotrepair.comLSRM-A, PPC, WS Great Sails - Sailmaker for Ultralight & Light Sport (989)513-3022=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- From: Herb Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:50 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Firefly quick build and Danny Day Trying to locate Danny Day...mentioned in an UL news article a few weeks back... Engine rebuilder in Phoenix Arizona...I have two engines which have had the Rotax label removed and his name and probably a serial number engraved on a copper plate installed in its place... I need to know the history of these engines.. for I bought them and a Kolb Firefly quick build and a Trike from an estate in LA County California...I suspect that they are fresh rebuilds or low time engines...but cannot be sure...one is a 447 that looks new...the other is a nice running 503... I plan to sell the trike and and the 503 and finish the Firefly...and keep the 447 for it... =C2- Thus far , I am missing motor mounts, rudder and elevator cables. tail wheel rod, seat webbing,right axle.=C2- Likely in a box that went to the L.A. county landfill! :-)=C2- Herb S - - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:05:32 AM PST US From: Malcolm Brubaker Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firefly quick build and Danny Day Herb I have a set of new =C2-firefly axils ,a folding wing holder, the pa rt that sits on the boom tube and can sew a seat for you. I also have a win d screen =C2-call or email off list for moor info=C2-=C2- the Danny D ay thing is a mystery to me! Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker Michigan Sport Pilot Repair http://michigansportpilotrepair.comLSRM-A, PPC, WS Great Sails - Sailmaker for Ultralight & Light Sport (989)513-3022=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- From: Herb Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:50 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Firefly quick build and Danny Day Trying to locate Danny Day...mentioned in an UL news article a few weeks back... Engine rebuilder in Phoenix Arizona...I have two engines which have had the Rotax label removed and his name and probably a serial number engraved on a copper plate installed in its place... I need to know the history of these engines.. for I bought them and a Kolb Firefly quick build and a Trike from an estate in LA County California...I suspect that they are fresh rebuilds or low time engines...but cannot be sure...one is a 447 that looks new...the other is a nice running 503... I plan to sell the trike and and the 503 and finish the Firefly...and keep the 447 for it... =C2- Thus far , I am missing motor mounts, rudder and elevator cables. tail wheel rod, seat webbing,right axle.=C2- Likely in a box that went to the L.A. county landfill! :-)=C2- Herb S - - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:51:55 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Horizontal stab position From: "Rex Rodebush" The L.E. position of the horiz. stab. has been changed several times since the Xtra came out. I set mine per instructions from Brian at TNK and it has worked great. I think it was given in degrees using the motor mounts as a base. He also gave me the wing angle based on the same. I used a digital level. Call Travis or Brian for information. Rex (will have my 40 hours flown off by this summer) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442140#442140 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:30:14 PM PST US From: Herb Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firefly quick build and Danny Day Quite a few small parts missing...and I was promised a box of parts from California that were left behind...gonna wait on that ...... plus I will be at the Kolb factory next week...so will save shipping...Herb > On 05/15/2015 07:59 AM, Malcolm Brubaker wrote: > if you give me the diameter of the tail spring I may have a pice of > 70_75 alum also > Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker > Michigan Sport Pilot Repair > *http://michigansportpilotrepair.com* > > LSRM-A, PPC, WS > Great Sails - Sailmaker > for Ultralight & Light Sport > (989)513-3022 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Herb > *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:50 PM > *Subject:* Kolb-List: Firefly quick build and Danny Day > > > > > > Trying to locate Danny Day...mentioned in an UL news article a few weeks > back... Engine rebuilder in Phoenix Arizona...I have two engines which > have had the Rotax label removed and his name and probably a serial > number engraved on a copper plate installed in its place... I need to > know the history of these engines.. for I bought them and a Kolb Firefly > quick build and a Trike from an estate in LA County California...I > suspect that they are fresh rebuilds or low time engines...but cannot be > sure...one is a 447 that looks new...the other is a nice running 503... > I plan to sell the trike and and the 503 and finish the Firefly...and > keep the 447 for it... > > Thus far , I am missing motor mounts, rudder and elevator cables. > tail wheel rod, seat webbing,right axle. Likely in a box that went to > the L.A. county lb-List" > target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-Lista > href="http://forums.matronics.com/" target="_blank">http://forums.mat > &nbs//www.matronics.com/contribution" > target="_blank">http://www.matronics.co================ > > > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:28:31 PM PST US From: Malcolm Brubaker Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firefly quick build and Danny Day thes parts I have are new 10 years old =C2-never installed=C2-=C2- I got them from an estate sail in Michigan ill sell them cheep=C2- so let m e know Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker Michigan Sport Pilot Repair http://michigansportpilotrepair.comLSRM-A, PPC, WS Great Sails - Sailmaker for Ultralight & Light Sport (989)513-3022=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- From: Herb Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 3:29 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firefly quick build and Danny Day Quite a few small parts missing...and I was promised a box of parts from California that were left behind...gonna wait on that ...... plus=C2- I w ill be at the Kolb factory next week...so will save shipping...Herb=C2- On 05/15/2015 07:59 AM, Malcolm Brubaker wrote: if you give me the diameter of the tail spring =C2-I may have a pice o f 70_75 alum also Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker Michigan Sport Pilot Repair http://michigansportpilotrepair.com LSRM-A, P PC, WS Great Sails - Sailmaker for Ultralight & Light Sport (989)513-3022 =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- From: Herb Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:50 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Firefly quick build and Danny Day Trying to locate Danny Day...mentioned in an UL news article a few weeks back... Engine rebuilder in Phoenix Arizona...I have two engines which have had the Rotax label removed and his name and probably a serial number engraved on a copper plate installed in its place... I need to know the history of these engines.. for I bought them and a Kolb Firefly quick build and a Trike from an estate in LA County California...I suspect that they are fresh rebuilds or low time engines...but cannot be sure...one is a 447 that looks new...the other is a nice running 503... I plan to sell the trike and and the 503 and finish the Firefly...and keep the 447 for it... =C2- Thus far , I am missing motor mounts, rudder and elevator cables. tail wheel rod, seat webbing,right axle.=C2- Likely in a box that went t o the L.A. county lb-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Naviga tor?Kolb-Lista href="http://forums.matronics.com/" target="_blank">http ://forums.mat =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2 - =C2- &nbs//www.matronics.com/contribution" target="_blank">http://w ww.matronics.co================ ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:30:42 PM PST US From: chris davis Subject: Kolb-List: firefly cables =0AHi KOLBERS as you may know i am building a handicap Kolb Firefly . it id the second Kolb Ivhave buit my firstwas a Fiestar fat and fast .I have a r equest does anybodyvhave a picture of thier Firefly cables after they leave the stick and rudder pedals they go overfour pulleys then under four pulle ys then into the fusalage tube .My prblem is thwt ill-=0A=0A=0A-cant fi nd a plan or an explanaton -of how the first four are rigged TRAVIS has s ent me plans and a new construction kanual as I.had to move my roject from Fl. To Ma. And somehow it disapeared Travis said they use washrs to pace th em but the angle seems wrongvthe cables -don travel strait over the pulle y when you run them throughvth next set so a PIC or two would help a lot TR AVIS Said tha BRIAN -changed the design since the plans were drawn?=0A=0A Thankq you CHRIS DAVIS=0A=0ASent from Yahoo Mail on Androidk=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:49:26 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Horizontal stab position From: Tony Malins Thanks for the info Rex. Will do that. Cheers Tony > On 16/05/2015 12:54 AM, "Rex Rodebush" wrote: > > > The L.E. position of the horiz. stab. has been changed several times since > the Xtra came out. I set mine per instructions from Brian at TNK and it > has worked great. I think it was given in degrees using the motor mounts > as a base. He also gave me the wing angle based on the same. I used a > digital level. Call Travis or Brian for information. > > Rex (will have my 40 hours flown off by this summer) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442140#442140 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:32:56 PM PST US From: Herb Subject: Re: Kolb-List: firefly cables Stewart On my first Friefly, the sling seat allowed my rear end stretch the sling seat enough to touch the cables...Is that what you see? Herb On 05/16/2015 10:09 AM, Stuart Harner wrote: > > Here are some greatly reduced images. Hopefully they are what you need. > > If you want to see the original files email me directly and I can send > them to you. They are about 1.5 MB each. > > Stuart > > *From:*owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *chris davis > *Sent:* Friday, May 15, 2015 10:30 PM > *To:* Kolb-List Diget Server; .Kolb-List@matronics.com > *Subject:* Kolb-List: firefly cables > > > Hi KOLBERS as you may know i am building a handicap Kolb Firefly . it > id the second Kolb Ivhave buit my firstwas a Fiestar fat and fast .I > have a request does anybodyvhave a picture of thier Firefly cables > after they leave the stick and rudder pedals they go overfour pulleys > then under four pulleys then into the fusalage tube .My prblem is thwt > ill > > cant find a plan or an explanaton of how the first four are rigged > TRAVIS has sent me plans and a new construction kanual as I.had to > move my roject from Fl. To Ma. And somehow it disapeared Travis said > they use washrs to pace them but the angle seems wrongvthe cables don > travel strait over the pulley when you run them throughvth next set so > a PIC or two would help a lot TRAVIS Said tha BRIAN changed the > design since the plans were drawn? > > Thankq you CHRIS DAVIS > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > k > > * * > * * > *< - The Kolb-List Email Forum Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse* > ** > ** > ** > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List* > ** > ** > *http://forums.matronics.com* > ** > ** > ** > ** > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > ** > * * ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:25:14 PM PST US From: chris davis Subject: Re: RE: Kolb-List: firefly cables Stuartthank you for the pics they are very clear Ithonk that I can nloe the m up on my compiter I have A wuestion the two brackets tjay hpld the pulley s Arethey parrilell. To the cross bar?Mine appear to be at about 26-30 degr eeup on the outsideand that seems to be the reason that the cables dont run true to the pulleys .I will check out your picms on the big screen a.d if I cant figure it out i will write you off list and ask you to send me the f ull original files . Thanks again CHRIS=0A=0ASent from Yahoo Mail on Androi d=0A=0AFrom:"Stuart Harner" =0ADate:Sat, May 16, 201 5 at 11:18 AM=0ASubject:RE: Kolb-List: firefly cables=0AUu=0A=0AHere are so me grefttplpatly reduced images. Hopefully they are what you need.=0A=0A- =0A=0AIf you want to see the original files email me directly and I can sen d them to you. They are about 1.5 MB each.=0A=0A-=0A=0AStuart=0A=0A-=0A =0AFrom: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-serve r@matronics.com] On Behalf Of chris davis=0ASent: Friday, May 15, 2015 10:3 0 PM=0ATo: Kolb-List Diget Server; .Kolb-List@matronics.com=0ASubject: Kolb -List: firefly cables=0A=0A-=0A=0A=0AHi KOLBERS as you may know i am buil ding a handicap Kolb Firefly . it id the second Kolb Ivhave buit my firstwa s a Fiestar fat and fast .I have a request does anybodyvhave a picture of t hier Firefly cables after they leave the stick and rudder pedals they go ov erfour pulleys then under four pulleys then into the fusalage tube .My prbl em is thwt ill-=0A=0A-=0A=0A-cant find a plan or an explanaton -of how the first four are rigged TRAVIS has sent me plans and a new constructi on kanual as I.had to move my roject from Fl. To Ma. And somehow it disapea red Travis said they use washrs to pace them but the angle seems wrongvthe cables -don travel strait over the pulley when you run them throughvth ne xt set so a PIC or two would help a lot TRAVIS Said tha BRIAN -changed th e design since the plans were drawn?=0A=0AThankq you CHRIS DAVIS=0A=0ASent from Yahoo Mail on Androidk=0A=0A- -http://www.matronics.com/Navigator? Kolb-Listhttp://forums.matronics.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution -=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:18:26 PM PST US From: "Stuart Harner" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: firefly cables Herb, Not that I have noticed. Guess I will have to have someone look at it from the side while I am in the seat. I did install the seat as tight as I could get it, but it does stretch a little when I am in it. It also "recovers" in a couple of hours. Did you have the sling on the top of the tube at the back of your butt, or did it wrap under it? Stuart From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Herb Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 11:26 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: firefly cables Stewart On my first Friefly, the sling seat allowed my rear end stretch the sling seat enough to touch the cables...Is that what you see? Herb On 05/16/2015 10:09 AM, Stuart Harner wrote: Here are some greatly reduced images. Hopefully they are what you need. If you want to see the original files email me directly and I can send them to you. They are about 1.5 MB each. Stuart From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of chris davis Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 10:30 PM Subject: Kolb-List: firefly cables Hi KOLBERS as you may know i am building a handicap Kolb Firefly . it id the second Kolb Ivhave buit my firstwas a Fiestar fat and fast .I have a request does anybodyvhave a picture of thier Firefly cables after they leave the stick and rudder pedals they go overfour pulleys then under four pulleys then into the fusalage tube .My prblem is thwt ill cant find a plan or an explanaton of how the first four are rigged TRAVIS has sent me plans and a new construction kanual as I.had to move my roject from Fl. To Ma. And somehow it disapeared Travis said they use washrs to pace them but the angle seems wrongvthe cables don travel strait over the pulley when you run them throughvth next set so a PIC or two would help a lot TRAVIS Said tha BRIAN changed the design since the plans were drawn? Thankq you CHRIS DAVIS Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android k < - The Kolb-List Email Forum Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:18:27 PM PST US From: "Stuart Harner" Subject: RE: RE: Kolb-List: firefly cables Chris, Not they are not parallel to the tube, they are angled up a little. I had some trouble getting the pulleys into the bracket. Bryan at the factory said it was fine to "bend" them a little to get things to line up. I also had to use different bolts that were called out in the plans. A bit of a trick figuring it all out, but it worked fine in the end. Stuart From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of chris davis Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 9:25 PM Subject: Re: RE: Kolb-List: firefly cables Stuartthank you for the pics they are very clear Ithonk that I can nloe them up on my compiter I have A wuestion the two brackets tjay hpld the pulleys Arethey parrilell. To the cross bar?Mine appear to be at about 26-30 degreeup on the outsideand that seems to be the reason that the cables dont run true to the pulleys .I will check out your picms on the big screen a.d if I cant figure it out i will write you off list and ask you to send me the full original files . Thanks again CHRIS Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android _____ From:"Stuart Harner" Date:Sat, May 16, 2015 at 11:18 AM Subject:RE: Kolb-List: firefly cables Uu Here are some grefttplpatly reduced images. Hopefully they are what you need. If you want to see the original files email me directly and I can send them to you. They are about 1.5 MB each. Stuart From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of chris davis Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 10:30 PM Subject: Kolb-List: firefly cables Hi KOLBERS as you may know i am building a handicap Kolb Firefly . it id the second Kolb Ivhave buit my firstwas a Fiestar fat and fast .I have a request does anybodyvhave a picture of thier Firefly cables after they leave the stick and rudder pedals they go overfour pulleys then under four pulleys then into the fusalage tube .My prblem is thwt ill cant find a plan or an explanaton of how the first four are rigged TRAVIS has sent me plans and a new construction kanual as I.had to move my roject from Fl. To Ma. And somehow it disapeared Travis said they use washrs to pace them but the angle seems wrongvthe cables don travel strait over the pulley when you run them throughvth next set so a PIC or two would help a lot TRAVIS Said tha BRIAN changed the design since the plans were drawn? Thankq you CHRIS DAVIS Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android k http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:10:00 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: firefly cables From: Larry Cottrell On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 10:16 PM, Stuart Harner wrote: > Herb, > > > Not that I have noticed. Guess I will have to have someone look at it fro m > the side while I am in the seat. I did install the seat as tight as I > could get it, but it does stretch a little when I am in it. It also > =9Crecovers=9D in a couple of hours. > > > Did you have the sling on the top of the tube at the back of your butt, o r > did it wrap under it? > > > Stuart > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ > > I don't know about the rest of you, but I didn't feel all that good with the sling bottom. I riveted a thin alum sheet onto the framework for the seat and put me a nice temper foam pad down to sit on. I would hate to set down HARD and end up with a suppository. 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