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1. 02:32 AM - Re: rivets (Patrick Ladd)
2. 11:35 AM - Pitot Source (Leland.Lam)
3. 11:54 AM - Re: Pitot Source (Charlie England)
4. 12:34 PM - Re: Pitot Source (Martin Koxxy)
5. 01:01 PM - Re: Pitot Source (Stuart Harner)
6. 01:44 PM - Re: Pitot Source (Leland.Lam)
7. 05:19 PM - Re: Pitot Source (John Hauck)
8. 06:00 PM - Re: Pitot Source (Larry Cottrell)
9. 08:26 PM - Re: Pitot Source (Stuart Harner)
10. 08:26 PM - Re: Pitot Source (Stuart Harner)
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Hi Russ,
no such luck. A weeks cruise. Southampton to Stavangar first leg. Its
raining and blowing up a hooghlie at the moment and the temps in Norway
are way down. Taking my wheelchair but don`t anticipate
getting around too much. Sit on the boat and read and draw. Shame. this
is the first time I have ventured abroad since I was taken ill 5 years
ago on the eve of going to the States.. Tal;k to you in a week.
Pat
From: kinne russ
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: rivets
Bon Voyage, Pat! =97 got your trout rod with you?
Russ
On May 28, 2015, at 7:47 AM, Patrick Ladd <patrickjladd@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Gosh you guys sure have hair triggers. Give the guys a break. If you
were supplying goods to the aircraft industry wouldn`t you keep an eye
on the literature? These days that includes lists and blogs. I don`t
see any `Big Brother` in that. Just good business practice.
They saw an item being criticised for being over priced and just
pointed out that it was being compared to a different product and
mentioned the fact that they also sell cheaper ones. Seems reasonable to
me.
It appears that they support the sponsorship deal. Seems to show good
intent.
An old saying occurs to me. Something about `With hold your verdict
until all the evidence is in`
Incidentally its no good sending me posts telling me that I am wrong a
I am off to Norway for seven days in the morning.
Cheers
Pat
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Ok Kolbers I have a dilemma that I need advice on. I am installing an MGL altimeter
in my Mark III and it comes with the integrated ASI. I already have an Airspeed
indicator so the question becomes:
1) Can a single Pitot ram air source be split to drive two ASI?
2) Ignore the MGL ASI and use the old analog ASI already in the plane.
3) Install an additional Pitot tube.
It would be nice to have a redundant system, but I am not really all that excited
about installing another pitot tube.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442764#442764
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| Subject: | Re: Pitot Source |
On May 29, 2015 1:35:05 PM CDT, "Leland.Lam" <wadelamoreaux@gmail.com> wrote:
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>Ok Kolbers I have a dilemma that I need advice on. I am installing an
>MGL altimeter in my Mark III and it comes with the integrated ASI. I
>already have an Airspeed indicator so the question becomes:
>
>
> 1) Can a single Pitot ram air source be split to drive two ASI?
> 2) Ignore the MGL ASI and use the old analog ASI already in the plane.
> 3) Install an additional Pitot tube.
>
>It would be nice to have a redundant system, but I am not really all
>that excited about installing another pitot tube.
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442764#442764
>
>
Or 4: remove the old a/s indicator...
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| Subject: | Re: Pitot Source |
I have seen several specs for instruments that use pitot pressure saying
that one pitot for several instruments is OK. Makes sense when you realize
that a pitot system does not actually move air, but rather transmits
pressure. The only downside is that you give up redundancy (clogged or
disconnected tubing, leaking fittings).
BTW, do not try to blow out obstructions without disconnecting the
instrument(s). That goes for the static port as well.
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Leland.Lam <wadelamoreaux@gmail.com>
wrote:
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> Ok Kolbers I have a dilemma that I need advice on. I am installing an MGL
> altimeter in my Mark III and it comes with the integrated ASI. I already
> have an Airspeed indicator so the question becomes:
>
>
> 1) Can a single Pitot ram air source be split to drive two ASI?
> 2) Ignore the MGL ASI and use the old analog ASI already in the plane.
> 3) Install an additional Pitot tube.
>
> It would be nice to have a redundant system, but I am not really all that
> excited about installing another pitot tube.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442764#442764
>
>
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If I were to have redundant ASI systems, I would not want them tied together
for the sake of redundancy.
Past experience:
1) Forced the rear end of a bug into the pitot tube while on takeoff roll.
Airspeed was up, rotated and started climb out. Glanced back at ASI and it
was at 0!
I would want the second pitot tube several inches from the first so that a
really big butt bug couldn't plug them both. The odds of spearing a bug on
takeoff, fairly large. Spearing two on the same flight?
2) Child of passenger crawled under the wing and broke the pitot tube after
I had checked in on pre-flight. Little bugger "put it back" so as to cover
up the damage. It worked fine until we were in the air. In this case, the
kid probably would have busted two pitot tubes if he could have......
There is no substitute for the "seat of your pants". :)
Stuart
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Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 1:35 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Pitot Source
Ok Kolbers I have a dilemma that I need advice on. I am installing an MGL
altimeter in my Mark III and it comes with the integrated ASI. I already
have an Airspeed indicator so the question becomes:
1) Can a single Pitot ram air source be split to drive two ASI?
2) Ignore the MGL ASI and use the old analog ASI already in the plane.
3) Install an additional Pitot tube.
It would be nice to have a redundant system, but I am not really all that
excited about installing another pitot tube.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442764#442764
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| Subject: | Re: Pitot Source |
Thank you for all of the replies. I was happy with just one ASI, but I needed an
altimeter and since the MGL has the ASI built into it I was hoping to utilize
this function.
I am flying in and out of a Class D under the Mode C veil of PHX, so I have had
to add a few things into the airplane to keep the controllers happy.
Many thanks to you all,
Leland
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442779#442779
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How does one tell airspeed by the seat of their pants?
john h
mkIII
Meridian, MS
There is no substitute for the "seat of your pants". :)
Stuart
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| Subject: | Re: Pitot Source |
I tell by how big a bite I am taking out of my shorts. :-) It helps to err
on the side of TOO FAST. :-)
Larry
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 6:18 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
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> How does one tell airspeed by the seat of their pants?
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Meridian, MS
>
>
> There is no substitute for the "seat of your pants". :)
>
> Stuart
>
>
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Yeah, when I smucked that bug with the pitot, I must have been doing 90
MPH when the Chief got back to earth. J
Actually, probably not. Years later, I realized that after the runway
was made, I never look at the ASI. It took a question from a fellow
pilot about what speed I touch down at. I realized I couldn=99t
answer it because I never look at the panel when I touch down, I am
concentrating on the runway at that moment. I have to force myself to
look inside.
Stuart
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Cottrell
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Pitot Source
I tell by how big a bite I am taking out of my shorts. :-) It helps to
err on the side of TOO FAST. :-)
Larry
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 6:18 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
wrote:
How does one tell airspeed by the seat of their pants?
john h
mkIII
Meridian, MS
There is no substitute for the "seat of your pants". :)
Stuart
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The friction causes them to heat up. :)
Altitude too:
Grass stains mean you were too low and ice means you were too high.
Attitude too:
Sun burn means you were upside down. Brown stains means, well you can
imagine that one!
Stuart
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hauck
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 7:19 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Pitot Source
How does one tell airspeed by the seat of their pants?
john h
mkIII
Meridian, MS
There is no substitute for the "seat of your pants". :)
Stuart
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