---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 08/20/15: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:35 AM - Re: Edit Subject Line (Jason Omelchuck) 2. 08:53 AM - Re: Re: Edit Subject Line (Herb) 3. 09:26 AM - Re: do not archive (Airknocker) 4. 09:41 AM - Re: do not archive (Matt Dralle) 5. 02:47 PM - Re: Re: do not archive (Stuart Harner) 6. 03:10 PM - Re: Painting trim (GARY JINDRA) 7. 05:55 PM - Re: Edit Subject Line (Richard Pike) 8. 06:07 PM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 08/18/15 (Ed Hase) 9. 07:12 PM - Re: Painting trim (Herb) 10. 07:15 PM - Re: legs (Flylawnchairs) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:35:25 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Edit Subject Line From: "Jason Omelchuck" Richard P. If you believe this tag line "There are two kinds of people: those who say to God, 'Thy will be done,' and those to whom God says, 'All right, then, have it your way.'" Is kind, generous and loving I believe you have a ways to go to be like the gentleman in the video. FWIW Jason Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446189#446189 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:53:19 AM PST US From: Herb Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Edit Subject Line I have met Brother Pike...a fine gentleman! Instantly likeable.... Richard is tops in my book for contributing unselfishly to the list... I have learned a lot reading his post... Finally...when Richard and millions like him...are gone,,,what then ? My byline if I could figure how to do it...would be " The most dangerous man in America; Any honest man with principle"!! Herb Little more Tolerance would not hurt... On 08/20/2015 10:34 AM, Jason Omelchuck wrote: > > Richard P. > > If you believe this tag line > > "There are two kinds of people: those who say to God, 'Thy will be done,' and those to whom God says, 'All right, then, have it your way.'" > > Is kind, generous and loving I believe you have a ways to go to be like the gentleman in the video. > > FWIW > Jason > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446189#446189 > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:26:22 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: do not archive From: "Airknocker" FYI a search on the word "archive" just pulled this post up. I guess all those who type "do not archive" are just wasting electrons. [Wink] -------- "I don't care, I'm still free. You can't take the sky from me" - Josh Wedon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446193#446193 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:41:43 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: do not archive From: "Matt Dralle" The Do Not Archive flag only applies to the Email distribution of the List form data, namely the historic List data you would find here: http://www.matronics.com/archives It doesn't really apply to the Forums version of the Lists because the data on the Forums isn't really "archived" per say. Matt Dralle Matronics List Admin -------- Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446194#446194 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:47:03 PM PST US From: "Stuart Harner" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: do not archive Matt, Inside baseball curiosity here. So there are two databases of messages? The forum database that is complete and gets searched by the search function, then the archive database that is the truncated (missing the "do not archive" messages)? With all the forums you host there must be multiple servers with raid arrays I am guessing? Stuart IT guy in a past life. Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 11:41 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: do not archive The Do Not Archive flag only applies to the Email distribution of the List form data, namely the historic List data you would find here: http://www.matronics.com/archives It doesn't really apply to the Forums version of the Lists because the data on the Forums isn't really "archived" per say. Matt Dralle Matronics List Admin -------- Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446194#446194 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:10:53 PM PST US From: GARY JINDRA Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Painting trim =C2-They sell fine line tape for painting at the auto parts. It is very t hin is plastic so it can be stretched to make curves. It has smooth edges t hat will not leave rough paint lines. You put it on first to get lines or d esigns then use blue painters tape on it. Spend the money to use good tape and paper if you want the best paint job you can do.=C2-Gary Jindra=C2- =C2-=C2- Mark 3c 912 ul380 hours From: Herb To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 12:41 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Painting trim Stuart =C2- I suspect that the print on the newspaper will bleed with the aceton e and mek that is in the paint?=C2- Think I will buy some brown paper at on e of the auto or hardware stores...Herb ps thanks for the procedure...Think I am good to go on the fuselage..will paint the wing leading edge outside...:-) On 08/19/2015 10:23 AM, Stuart Harner wrote: > > Herb, > > You are correct about putting the first layer of tape exactly on the line > you want. Then tape the paper down to the first tape with another layer o f > tape. I know this takes twice as much tape but it is worth it just in the > ease of application.=C2- You can actually use plain old brown masking t ape for > this and save a little $$. Usually I put all the first tape down before I > start putting the tape/paper down. That way you can stand back and "eyeba ll" > your work to see if it matches what you were planning. Sometimes tape get s > applied to the wrong side of the "line" and it is really hard to see that if > you have the masking paper in place. > > Looking at the first run of tape also helps identify any less than straig ht > areas. Much easier to lift and adjust a single line of tape than the whol e > masked up edge. > > I found the local big box hardware store had brown masking paper in rolls up > to 12" wide. The local NAPA store had wider stock. I did not try newspape rs > as there are lots of recommendations against that. Hopefully you won't ha ve > any problems. Putting two or three layers of newspaper in the first 12" a way > from the trim line would help absorb any overspray that may be heavier in > that area. > > Last piece of advice. Run your fingernail over all the tape where it > contacts the fabric just before you spray. That way there is nice fresh > tight contact between the tape and the fabric. This will help prevent the > new paint from creeping under the tape. Don't worry about the blue tape > sticking to the previous paint. As long as it has had a day or two to dry , > the blue tape will peel off nicely and not leave any residue. It can be > removed as soon as the paint on the tape is dry to the touch. > > Best of luck and post pictures when you get'er done! > > Stuart > > > >=C2- =C2- I bought the standard, recommended 3M blue tape..and gathere d up as much > news paper that I might need... I was warned about the type of newspaper > that has the small holes in it... > >=C2- =C2- I can see laying down the first line of blue tape then overl aying that > with another line of tape which includes the blocking paper.... > need all the help that I can get...=C2- Herb in Ky > > S - - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:55:12 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Edit Subject Line From: "Richard Pike" Jason Omelchuck wrote: > Richard P. > > If you believe this tag line > > "There are two kinds of people: those who say to God, 'Thy will be done,' and those to whom God says, 'All right, then, have it your way.'" > > Is kind, generous and loving I believe you have a ways to go to be like the gentleman in the video. > > FWIW > Jason I have a long ways to go to be like any number of gentlemen. Just a sinner saved by grace. Never claimed to be any more than that. Definitely a work in progress, and not always doing all that well. So how's it going with you? -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Would you consider yourself to be a good person? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446218#446218 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:07:57 PM PST US From: Ed Hase Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 08/18/15 Please remove me On 8/19/2015 2:02 AM, Kolb-List Digest Server wrote: > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Kolb-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. 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The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Kolb-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 15-08-18&Archive=Kolb > > Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 15-08-18&Archive=Kolb > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Kolb-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Tue 08/18/15: 6 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 07:55 PM - Re: Re: Primer Bulb (John Hauck) > 2. 08:21 PM - Re: Primer Bulb (Richard Pike) > 3. 08:23 PM - Re: Re: legs (John Hauck) > 4. 08:45 PM - Re: Re: Primer Bulb (John Hauck) > 5. 10:08 PM - fly safe...use a rubber...hose that is!! (Herb) > 6. 11:17 PM - Re: Re: legs (Richard Girard) > > > > ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 07:55:52 PM PST US > From: "John Hauck" > Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Primer Bulb > > > I've used Gates neoprene fuel like for all three of my Kolbs > over a 30+ year span. Found out early on plastic line is a > failure waiting to happen. First failure was the fuel pump > pulse line. Fortunately I found it on the ground. > > I use straight neoprene fuel line for all fuel deliver, > drains, and vent tubes. Adding aluminum lines to replace > sections of neoprene is probably ok, but adds a lot of > additional connections, usually where a possible failure > could occur. > > Keep it simple. > > john h > JBER, Anchorage, Alaska > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > Richard Pike > Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 5:19 AM > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Primer Bulb > > --> > > Hate to be the duty curmudgeon, but I had a couple problems > with Heavenbound Aviation's guide. > One is that he pictures a fuel filter with a paper filtering > element. Will that still allow gas to flow through it if it > gets a dose of water? > > If you use a good quality filter in your tank, then you can > use an inline bronze filter in a transparent case with out > any worries. The best tank filter/pickup is a replacement > for the ones that go on in-tank car fuel pumps, they are > fine mesh nylon, very large with lots of surface area, and > pretty cheap. > > His description and pictures of using safety wire as a fuel > line clamp is simply wrong. He uses one wrap and a straight > twist. One wrap fails to secure part of one side, and a > straight end is a good way to jab yourself and bleed all > over your airplane every time you get near your fuel system. > Double wrap and bend the end over like in the attached > photo. (found that old filter & line in the scrap bin) > > Finally, I suggest never using blue urethane line for > anything, period. Soft aluminum fuel line from Aircraft > Spruce is cheaper and lasts forever if properly installed. > Blue urethane can look good and feel soft, and break without > warning. (Guess how I know this?) Good grade NAPA fuel line > will still look good on the outside after many years and > does not deteriorate, I use that where the aluminum line > ends to connect to the carbs, fuel pump, etc. > > Worth what ya paid for it. > > -------- > Richard Pike > Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > Kingsport, TN 3TN0 > There are two kinds of people: those who say to God, 'Thy > will be done,' and those to whom God says, 'All right, then, > have it your way.' > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446069#446069 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1040718_small_157.jpg > > > > Photoshare, and much much more: > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:21:07 PM PST US > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Primer Bulb > From: "Richard Pike" > > > John Hauck wrote: >> >> Adding aluminum lines to replace sections of neoprene is probably ok, but adds > a lot of additional connections, usually where a possible failure >> could occur. >> >> Keep it simple. >> >> john h >> JBER, Anchorage, Alaska >> >> -- > > I guess if I had 100 hp on my MKIII I wouldn't care about hauling around extra > ounces either, but since neoprene is heavier than aluminum fuel line, and I only > have 65 hp to work with, I will use the good/light stuff and insure due diligence > at my connections. > > Clear skies and tailwinds to you Bro. > > -------- > Richard Pike > Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > Kingsport, TN 3TN0 > There are two kinds of people: those who say to God, 'Thy will be done,' and those > to whom God says, 'All right, then, have it your way.' > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446130#446130 > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:23:15 PM PST US > From: "John Hauck" > Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: legs > > > I'm certainly not the "procedure police", but I am and have > been a member of the Kolb Builder and Flyers List for many > years. > > I speak for myself and no one else. > > The best way to kill a good Kolb List is to ignore the > posted guidelines, turning a List for serious builders and > flyers of Kolb aircraft into a chat room. It is then no > longer the Kolb List. > > Please have some respect for those of us that are "real" > Kolb enthusiast. Some of you seem to do you damnedest to > ruin our List. > > If you want to share subjects not Kolb related, take them > somewhere else. Start a bull shit list for bull shit > subjects. > > There are times traffic on the Kolb List is slow and > nonexistent. That does not mean the List is dead. When > someone has a problem or wants to share something Kolb, they > will, and the conversations begin on that subject. > > Please do not destroy our Kolb List. > > john h > Kolb MKIII, N101AB > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > Patrick Ladd > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 10:38 AM > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: legs > > > > Come on you guys, there would seem to be some great stories > out there. Lets have `em. Let the procedure police stew for > while. Pat > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brad Nation > Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 4:04 AM > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: legs > > > > Does an hour back seat ride in an A-7 with an emergency > landing or taxi ride in a B-57G count? > > Sent from my iPad > > Brad > >> On Aug 10, 2015, at 09:37, Tom O'Hara > wrote: >> --> >> >> Okay, are we comparing who paid what for how many hours in > what type >> of aircraft? If so..... crossed the Alps in hot air. > Left Murren, >> flew >> 5.75 hours, up to 19,500 ft. Dropper to 10' and flew the > Eiger glacier. >> Landed north of Lugano and could see all the way down the > Italian boot. >> At one point had a Swiss Air 747 doing a turn around us. > Best day of >> my >> life---- with my pants on. Cost about $2200USD. That > included meals >> and a hotel for the night before. Lifted off with 120 > gallons of >> propane and landed with less than 10--phew. >> >> Still love my Kolb!! Just think the Kolb is about 10x > faster! >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445771#445771 >> >> > > > Photoshare, and much much more: > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:45:26 PM PST US > From: "John Hauck" > Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Primer Bulb > > > Brother Pike: > > I have no doubt you will make the very best fuel line > connections possible, no matter how many there are. > > I can assure you my 65 hp MKIII flew quite well with > neoprene fuel line. Most folks know I build heavy > airplanes, haul 25 gallons of fuel, and 100 or more pounds > of gear when I go flying. I didn't encounter any problem > flying to Lakeland, FL, Homer Kolb's house, and Oshkosh > hauling all that load with 65 hp. > > I doubt very seriously you or your 65 hp MKIII would ever > notice the difference in a few extra ounces. > > john h > mkIII powered with 65, 80, and 100 (95 useable) HP engines. > JBER, Anchorage, Alaska > > I guess if I had 100 hp on my MKIII I wouldn't care about > hauling around extra ounces either, but since neoprene is > heavier than aluminum fuel line, and I only have 65 hp to > work with, I will use the good/light stuff and insure due > diligence at my connections. > > Clear skies and tailwinds to you Bro. > > -------- > Richard Pike > Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > Kingsport, TN 3TN0 > There are two kinds of people: those who say to God, 'Thy > will be done,' and those to whom God says, 'All right, then, > have it your way.' > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446130#446130 > > > > Photoshare, and much much more: > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 10:08:16 PM PST US > From: Herb > Subject: Kolb-List: fly safe...use a rubber...hose that is!! > > > Pore ole Herb....I go into the auto parts store and ask for Gates fuel > line...Most sell that particular brand...Neoprene seems to refer to the > outside cover.. Three layers... good for 10% corn elixir... That what > you buy..John? > > Wonder if Beauford gets his corn through a straw or gates hose?? :-) > > For all of those on the edge of their seats :-) ,,,,Just about > ready to commit to the air...got caught in that 90% done 90% to go > syndrome...and to be honest lots of things to do on my 35 acres... The > Firefly is looking pretty good... Full enclosure is done... > > Wondering if the two blade 60 inch Warp Drive prop is going to be > enough...? As I said before...I will trade a three blade, > medium(503,582) Ivo for a three blade UL version... I like the > smoothness of the IVO .. > > And....all my previous builds were completely done in Insignia > White....so I have no experience in taping and trim painting....I want > to do the Bryan Milborn standard paint job...quite similar to half of > the Kolbs that are for sale on Barnstormers....The previous owner had > painted the tail feathers in a trim scheme that looks close to Factory.. > > Interesting that a so so Firefly for sale has an asking of 9k and a > darn pretty one 25k!! I know well that my 1k john boat will catch as > many fish as a 50K bass boat...:-) Maybe the 9k version does not come > with a fishing pole? But I digress! > > The previous owner had painted the tail feathers in a trim scheme > that looks close to Factory... > > I bought the standard, recommended 3M blue tape..and gathered up as > much news paper that I might need... I was warned about the type of > newspaper that has the small holes in it... > > I can see laying down the first line of blue tape then overlaying > that with another line of tape which includes the blocking paper.... > need all the help that I can get... Herb in Ky > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 11:17:00 PM PST US > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: legs > From: Richard Girard > > And if I may add to John's request, if you want to give a builder an atta > boy, or signify your agreement with someone else's technical answer or > anything that doesn't add some knowledge to the forum archives, please, > PLEASE, put do not archive below your signature. This isn't my request, > this is Matt's, it's in the user agreement we all sign to be members of > this forum. The reason for not saving every last comment is simple, Matt's > servers have a limited capacity. Go ahead and make whatever comment you > think appropriate, but if it doesn't add to the technical database just add > those three little words to your comment. > > Rick Girard > do not archive > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 10:19 PM, John Hauck wrote: > >> I'm certainly not the "procedure police", but I am and have >> been a member of the Kolb Builder and Flyers List for many >> years. >> >> I speak for myself and no one else. >> >> The best way to kill a good Kolb List is to ignore the >> posted guidelines, turning a List for serious builders and >> flyers of Kolb aircraft into a chat room. It is then no >> longer the Kolb List. >> >> Please have some respect for those of us that are "real" >> Kolb enthusiast. Some of you seem to do you damnedest to >> ruin our List. >> >> If you want to share subjects not Kolb related, take them >> somewhere else. Start a bull shit list for bull shit >> subjects. >> >> There are times traffic on the Kolb List is slow and >> nonexistent. That does not mean the List is dead. When >> someone has a problem or wants to share something Kolb, they >> will, and the conversations begin on that subject. >> >> Please do not destroy our Kolb List. >> >> john h >> Kolb MKIII, N101AB >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >> Patrick Ladd >> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 10:38 AM >> To: kolb-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: legs >> >> >> >> Come on you guys, there would seem to be some great stories >> out there. Lets have `em. Let the procedure police stew for >> while. Pat >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Brad Nation >> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 4:04 AM >> To: kolb-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: legs >> >> >> >> Does an hour back seat ride in an A-7 with an emergency >> landing or taxi ride in a B-57G count? >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> Brad >> >>> On Aug 10, 2015, at 09:37, Tom O'Hara >> wrote: >>> --> >>> >>> Okay, are we comparing who paid what for how many hours in >> what type >>> of aircraft? If so..... crossed the Alps in hot air. >> Left Murren, >>> flew >>> 5.75 hours, up to 19,500 ft. Dropper to 10' and flew the >> Eiger glacier. >>> Landed north of Lugano and could see all the way down the >> Italian boot. >>> At one point had a Swiss Air 747 doing a turn around us. >> Best day of >>> my >>> life---- with my pants on. Cost about $2200USD. That >> included meals >>> and a hotel for the night before. Lifted off with 120 >> gallons of >>> propane and landed with less than 10--phew. >>> >>> Still love my Kolb!! Just think the Kolb is about 10x >> faster! >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445771#445771 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> Photoshare, and much much more: >> >> >> >> >> > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:12:37 PM PST US From: Herb Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Painting trim I bought the blue tape and gave it a try this evening...for the life of me could not run a straight line across the top of the wing...!! Gave up and put the puppy back in the garage...Think I will prevail on a buddy who painted F4's for McDonald Douglas back in St Louis...Quite a step down and I know he will have his nose in the air...but he owes me one...:-) Herb On 08/20/2015 05:10 PM, GARY JINDRA wrote: > They sell fine line tape for painting at the auto parts. It is very > thin is plastic so it can be stretched to make curves. It has smooth > edges that will not leave rough paint lines. You put it on first to > get lines or designs then use blue painters tape on it. Spend the > money to use good tape and paper if you want the best paint job you > can do. > */Gary Jindra > /* > */Mark 3c 912 ul/* > */380 hours > /* > *//* > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Herb > *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 19, 2015 12:41 PM > *Subject:* Re: Kolb-List: Painting trim > > > > > Stuart > > I suspect that the print on the newspaper will bleed with the acetone > and mek that is in the paint? Think I will buy some brown paper at one > of the auto or hardware stores...Herb > > ps thanks for the procedure...Think I am good to go on the > fuselage..will paint the wing leading edge outside...:-) > > On 08/19/2015 10:23 AM, Stuart Harner wrote: > > > > > > Herb, > > > > You are correct about putting the first layer of tape exactly on the > line > > you want. Then tape the paper down to the first tape with another > layer of > > tape. I know this takes twice as much tape but it is worth it just > in the > > ease of application. You can actually use plain old brown masking > tape for > > this and save a little $$. Usually I put all the first tape down > before I > > start putting the tape/paper down. That way you can stand back and > "eyeball" > > your work to see if it matches what you were planning. Sometimes > tape gets > > applied to the wrong side of the "line" and it is really hard to see > that if > > you have the masking paper in place. > > > > Looking at the first run of tape also helps identify any less than > straight > > areas. Much easier to lift and adjust a single line of tape than the > whole > > masked up edge. > > > > I found the local big box hardware store had brown masking paper in > rolls up > > to 12" wide. The local NAPA store had wider stock. I did not try > newspapers > > as there are lots of recommendations against that. Hopefully you > won't have > > any problems. Putting two or three layers of newspaper in the first > 12" away > > from the trim line would help absorb any overspray that may be > heavier in > > that area. > > > > Last piece of advice. Run your fingernail over all the tape where it > > contacts the fabric just before you spray. That way there is nice fresh > > tight contact between the tape and the fabric. This will help > prevent the > > new paint from creeping under the tape. Don't worry about the blue tape > > sticking to the previous paint. As long as it has had a day or two > to dry, > > the blue tape will peel off nicely and not leave any residue. It can be > > removed as soon as the paint on the tape is dry to the touch. > > > > Best of luck and post pictures when you get'er done! > > > > Stuart > > > > > > > > > > > > I bought the standard, recommended 3M blue tape..and gathered up > as much > > news paper that I might need... I was warned about the type of newspaper > > that has the small holes in it... > > > > I can see laying down the first line of blue tape then overlaying > that > > with another line of tape which includes the blocking paper.... > > need all the help that I can get... > Her://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List" > target="_blank">http://www.matr --> > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:15:23 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: legs From: "Flylawnchairs" Very cool brad ! 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