---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 08/29/15: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:46 PM - Hat's off to Turtle lake WI. (west1m) 2. 02:28 PM - Re: Hat's off to Turtle lake WI. (Larry Cottrell) 3. 02:59 PM - Re: Hat's off to Turtle lake WI. (John Hauck) 4. 03:04 PM - Re: Hat's off to Turtle lake WI. (west1m) 5. 03:20 PM - Re: Hat's off to Turtle lake WI. (Michael Orth) 6. 03:39 PM - Re: Re: Hat's off to Turtle lake WI. (Larry Cottrell) 7. 04:11 PM - Re: Hat's off to Turtle lake WI. (kinne russ) 8. 04:41 PM - Re: Hat's off to Turtle lake WI. (Herb) 9. 08:28 PM - Re: Hat's off to Turtle lake WI. (west1m) 10. 08:39 PM - Re: Re: Hat's off to Turtle lake WI. (Larry Cottrell) 11. 08:40 PM - Re: second chantz chutes (wakataka) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:46:51 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Hat's off to Turtle lake WI. From: "west1m" I went out the other day for the longest distance I have ever done. Nothing like the rest of you, going to Alaska and the like... But for me it was great. I went from New Richmond to Chetek to Rice lake to Cumberland and back to New Richmond. In all a bit over one hundred miles. Yeah yeah, big deal! Any way, had a great time, froze my fanny off on the way to Chetek, where a guy gave me a ride into town where I purchased a sweat shirt. All was well until about Turtle lake when I had a slight wardrobe malfunction... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP9irkNoMTI -------- West1m Hastings, MN Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446522#446522 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:28:49 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Hat's off to Turtle lake WI. From: Larry Cottrell Thanks for the video. I laughed as much as you probably did, after you landed and saw the footage. As John Hauck is always saying those long flights were made up of short hops, just like you did that day. I am sure that you are happy with your little bird, it looks like a sweet one. However if you would like to make it more suitable for those long hops, it wouldn't take much. I used to use the short wind screen when I first started, but the wind would hit me just about the top of the head, so I was always worried about my hat, and the wind would make my nose run. I got tired of snot on my glasses, so I bought a full enclosure from Kolb and put it on. Besides giving me about 5 MPH more speed, I was a lot warmer. The wind beating on you while going around the patch is nothing. Multiply that over a hundred miles and your senses are reeling. Oh, if you should decide that you want to get the enclosure, don't use the part that closes off the back, that will negate the additional speed that you gained with the full screen. I made a hot air capture device for my 447 and could fly in temps as low as 50 degrees in a tee shirt. Thanks for the video, Larry On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 2:46 PM, west1m wrote: > > I went out the other day for the longest distance I have ever done. > Nothing like the rest of you, going to Alaska and the like... But for me it > was great. > I went from New Richmond to Chetek to Rice lake to Cumberland and back to > New Richmond. In all a bit over one hundred miles. Yeah yeah, big deal! > Any way, had a great time, froze my fanny off on the way to Chetek, where > a guy gave me a ride into town where I purchased a sweat shirt. All was > well until about Turtle lake when I had a slight wardrobe malfunction... > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP9irkNoMTI > > -------- > West1m > Hastings, MN > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446522#446522 > > -- *The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant.* *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:59:40 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Hat's off to Turtle lake WI. Congratulations. All cross country flights are made up of legs. To make a long cross country flight takes a few more legs than the short ones. Enjoyed your video. Glad you did not lose your hat or get beat to death with you hoodie draw strings. john h mkIII Prince George, BC, Canada -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of west1m Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 1:46 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Hat's off to Turtle lake WI. I went out the other day for the longest distance I have ever done. Nothing like the rest of you, going to Alaska and the like... But for me it was great. I went from New Richmond to Chetek to Rice lake to Cumberland and back to New Richmond. In all a bit over one hundred miles. Yeah yeah, big deal! Any way, had a great time, froze my fanny off on the way to Chetek, where a guy gave me a ride into town where I purchased a sweat shirt. All was well until about Turtle lake when I had a slight wardrobe malfunction... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP9irkNoMTI -------- West1m Hastings, MN Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446522#446522 = Photoshare, and much much more: = = = ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:04:18 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Hat's off to Turtle lake WI. From: "west1m" Thanks guys. Larry I would appreciate a picture of your heat device. And Larry, your are the Video King! -------- West1m Hastings, MN Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446528#446528 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:20:05 PM PST US From: "Michael Orth" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Hat's off to Turtle lake WI. A couple of S/S woodscrews would cure that flying-hat problem. Michael http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso 170120T00&p0=263&m sg=Obama+GTFO ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- -----Original Message----- From: west1m Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 1:46 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Hat's off to Turtle lake WI. I went out the other day for the longest distance I have ever done. Nothing like the rest of you, going to Alaska and the like... But for me it was great. I went from New Richmond to Chetek to Rice lake to Cumberland and back to New Richmond. In all a bit over one hundred miles. Yeah yeah, big deal! Any way, had a great time, froze my fanny off on the way to Chetek, where a guy gave me a ride into town where I purchased a sweat shirt. All was well until about Turtle lake when I had a slight wardrobe malfunction... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP9irkNoMTI -------- West1m Hastings, MN Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446522#446522 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 08/29/15 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:39:10 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Hat's off to Turtle lake WI. From: Larry Cottrell You are lucky, I managed to find the pictures on my wife's computer. The way the heater works is that it captures the hot air coming out of the shroud and is funneled into a scat tube that I ran to the nose pod. In the image- Tools to bend- I used a 1 1/2 or 2 inch chunk of pipe with a thin piece of flat stock welded to the pipe to hold the aluminum that will make up the tube. I drilled a hole in the end to stick a piece of 3/8 rod to give me leverage enough to bend the piece. I left the alum about three inches longer than the opening in the shroud so that I could fit the scat tubing over it. The next picture- tools for flanges- is merely a piece of 2x4 with a kerf cut about 1/2 inch deep is to bend enough of the tubing into a flange so that you can rivet it to the shroud. I then cut a circle that I could close off one end of the tube. In the picture- heater open you can see that I cut out panels so that I could allow all the heat to escape if I didn't need it. I used a push pull cable to activate the door, and I placed that in the cockpit. Once you get it made, put down a strip of high temp silicone sealer and rivet it to the shroud. Even with the back of the enclosure open I was able to fly mine all winter long and still be able to stay pretty comfortable. If any of this is not plain, feel free to ask for clarification. Larry On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 4:04 PM, west1m wrote: > > Thanks guys. Larry I would appreciate a picture of your heat device. > And Larry, your are the Video King! > > -------- > West1m > Hastings, MN > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446528#446528 > > -- *The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant.* *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:11:51 PM PST US From: kinne russ Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Hat's off to Turtle lake WI. A staple gun is quicker and easier > On Aug 29, 2015, at 6:19 PM, Michael Orth wrote: > > A couple of S/S woodscrews would cure that flying-hat problem. > > Michael > http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso 170120T00&p0=263&ms g=Obama+GTFO > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > -----Original Message----- > From: west1m > Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 1:46 PM > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kolb-List: Hat's off to Turtle lake WI. > > > I went out the other day for the longest distance I have ever done. Nothing like the rest of you, going to Alaska and the like... But for me it was great. > I went from New Richmond to Chetek to Rice lake to Cumberland and back to New Richmond. In all a bit over one hundred miles. Yeah yeah, big deal! > Any way, had a great time, froze my fanny off on the way to Chetek, where a guy gave me a ride into town where I purchased a sweat shirt. All was well until about Turtle lake when I had a slight wardrobe malfunction... > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP9irkNoMTI > > -------- > West1m > Hastings, MN > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446522#446522 > > > > > > > > ============ > Kolb-List Email Forum - > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > ============= sp; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - ============= sp; - List Contribution Web Site - sp; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. http://www.matronics.com/contribution ============ > > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > 08/29/15 > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:41:25 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Hat's off to Turtle lake WI. From: Herb Nice video...nearly Larry quality...:-) Good looking bird too! I agree with having the full enclosure... only way to go...this last Firefly came in at 266 lbs with full enclosure.. Easy to make...from raw stock...The lexan; 1/16th inch cost 40 some bucks at the local plastic outlet...one of the few things that has not gone up in price ... Think I bought 3/4 of a sheet...? The tubing was from stock..The first time I made one...I looked at a picture...then ran some straight edge material from the nose to the approximate area for the top bow..I used 1x1 aluminum angle on both sides...Attached the left side to the frame and attached the other side to the lexan and some simple latches..Works well... Herb On 08/29/2015 04:28 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote: > Thanks for the video. I laughed as much as you probably did, after you > landed and saw the footage. As John Hauck is always saying those long > flights were made up of short hops, just like you did that day. > > I am sure that you are happy with your little bird, it looks like a > sweet one. However if you would like to make it more suitable for > those long hops, it wouldn't take much. I used to use the short wind > screen when I first started, but the wind would hit me just about the > top of the head, so I was always worried about my hat, and the wind > would make my nose run. I got tired of snot on my glasses, so I bought > a full enclosure from Kolb and put it on. Besides giving me about 5 > MPH more speed, I was a lot warmer. The wind beating on you while > going around the patch is nothing. Multiply that over a hundred miles > and your senses are reeling. > > Oh, if you should decide that you want to get the enclosure, don't use > the part that closes off the back, that will negate the additional > speed that you gained with the full screen. I made a hot air capture > device for my 447 and could fly in temps as low as 50 degrees in a tee > shirt. > > Thanks for the video, > Larry > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 2:46 PM, west1m > wrote: > > > > > I went out the other day for the longest distance I have ever > done. Nothing like the rest of you, going to Alaska and the > like... But for me it was great. > I went from New Richmond to Chetek to Rice lake to Cumberland and > back to New Richmond. In all a bit over one hundred miles. Yeah > yeah, big deal! > Any way, had a great time, froze my fanny off on the way to > Chetek, where a guy gave me a ride into town where I purchased a > sweat shirt. All was well until about Turtle lake when I had a > slight wardrobe malfunction... > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP9irkNoMTI > > -------- > West1m > Hastings, MN > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446522#446522 > > > ========== > -List" rel="noreferrer" > target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > ========== > FORUMS - > eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > b Site - > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > -- > /The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant./ > / > / > /If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email > address before sending./ > http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- Signature text; This the byline area? ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:28:42 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Hat's off to Turtle lake WI. From: "west1m" Larry, the heater system looks great! I have not heard of "scat tube" before but I can see it on the side of the picture. I tried to look it up on the internet but all I came up with was a ton of porn sites. The enclosed front end sounds like the way to go. It isn't getting any warmer here in Minnesota any time soon. I'll have to look at some picts of that too and see if I can make one. I have seen a few pictures here and there. The staple gun is probably a better way to go, I am kind of clumsy so I would hate to stab my self with a screwdriver trying to use the wood screws. -------- West1m Hastings, MN Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446548#446548 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:39:54 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Hat's off to Turtle lake WI. From: Larry Cottrell LOL, sorry about that. I am having trouble typing still, but I looked up a link for you. Larry http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/scat.php On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 9:28 PM, west1m wrote: > > Larry, the heater system looks great! I have not heard of "scat tube" > before but I can see it on the side of the picture. I tried to look it up > on the internet but all I came up with was a ton of porn sites. > > The enclosed front end sounds like the way to go. It isn't getting any > warmer here in Minnesota any time soon. I'll have to look at some picts of > that too and see if I can make one. I have seen a few pictures here and > there. > > The staple gun is probably a better way to go, I am kind of clumsy so I > would hate to stab my self with a screwdriver trying to use the wood screws. > > -------- > West1m > Hastings, MN > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446548#446548 > > -- *The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant.* *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:40:36 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: second chantz chutes From: "wakataka" I think the name is John Dunham, not Dunlap. He repacked a BRS canister for me about 3 years ago. The bridle was folded wrong and that prevented the cover from fitting on properly. He had tried to stick it on with slilcone. It blew off and went through the prop on the second flight. He promised a replacement cover that never came. Another friend who is very knowledgeable about BRS chutes repacked the bridle for me. The last I saw John was about a year ago and it looked like he might be living in the old van he was traveling in, along with some very ragged female company. I hope he gets past the mid-life crisis he seemed to be going through. Meanwhile, I won't be sending him any more chutes. -------- There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact. 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