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1. 01:08 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/31/15 (George Bearden)
2. 02:07 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 09/01/15 (Theodore Cowan)
3. 07:23 AM - Re: HKS to 912 Slingshot ()
4. 08:27 AM - Re: HKS to 912 Slingshot ()
5. 08:38 AM - Re: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 09/01/15 (John Hauck)
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| Subject: | RE: Kolb-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/31/15 |
> Does anyone know of a protective tape that I can put on the top edges
> of the side rails
To protect the paint on some exposed areas of my recumbent bike I use a
heavy aluminum tape with adhesive on one side. I think air conditioner guys
use it. I had a roll from building a pre-fab metal shed. Cut off the
requisite length, round the corners with scissors, apply, then fly. Good
stuff but not as tuff as PVC pipe idea,
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 09/01/15 |
I have a 912 on my slingshot almost ten years now. Just make sure you put the
proper shims under the rear mounts. The rear needs to be abt 3/4 of an inch
higher than the front or it will be extremely stick heavy. I will send exact
measurements if you need them. If your cage is one of the last ones built it
may have the corrected mounts. Ted cowan 912 ul zoom zoom. P.s. I have a great
little seven rib firestar for sale w/503 and ten gal tank.
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> 1. 05:33 AM - HKS to 912 Slingshot (McCarthy Tom)
> 2. 01:59 PM - Re: Aileron Gap Seals (John Hauck)
> 3. 03:13 PM - Re: Aileron Gap Seals (Richard Pike)
> 4. 03:21 PM - Re: HKS to 912 Slingshot (John Hauck)
> 5. 03:31 PM - Re: HKS to 912 Slingshot (John Hauck)
> 6. 11:11 PM - Official Kolb-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) (Matt
Dralle)
> 7. 11:23 PM - Official Kolb-List Usage Guidelines (Matt Dralle)
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> ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 05:33:42 AM PST US
> From: McCarthy Tom <mccarthy@jefnet.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: HKS to 912 Slingshot
>
>
> I have not posted for some time, but read the list fairly regularly. After a
little
> over 5 years and 203 hours, the HKS 700E was removed and I am now in the
> process of installing the 912 UL on my Slingshot. I was very pleased with the
> HKS, but thought it lacked the climb I was used to in my previous Kolb planes.
> I was able to sell the motor on Barnstormers in one day with many other takers
> in waiting. I have been collecting the necessary parts over the past 3
> years for the changeover, and thanks to Brian's help at EAA, the last of the
expensive
> stuff was acquired. Additional thanks should go out to Daryl at Warp
> drive, it is a pleasure to deal with these companies that have customer skills
> that equal the excellent products they sell. I have a used Titan exhaust
> and am surprised that it was not pre drilled for the EGT probes, any insight
would
> be appreciated.
>
>
> Tom McCarthy
> Slingshot N863GB 912 UL
> Zenith 601HD N514TM 912 UL
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 01:59:27 PM PST US
> From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Aileron Gap Seals
>
>
> The best method for durability is the same procedure
> outlined in old Kolb Aircraft instruction manuals. Tape is
> temporary.
>
> I have an aileron gap seal that is 23 years old and 3,300.0+
> hours. Another that is 15 years old and I don't know how
> many hours on that one. Both are showing some age, but
> still serviceable.
>
> This system is more work intensive than tape, but looks and
> performs the best, in my humble opinion.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Omak, WA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Shadow94
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 10:32 AM
> Subject: Kolb-List: Aileron Gap Seals
>
> <seanote@echoes.net>
>
> Starting to plan ahead for sealing the aileron gaps and was
> hoping a few of my fellow Kolbers might be able and willing
> to share some photos of gap sealing methods. Preferably
> ones that work the best for them.
>
> --------
> Mark
> Twinstar MKII
> Great Bend, PA
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446620#446620
>
>
>
> Photoshare, and much much more:
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 03:13:04 PM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Aileron Gap Seals
> From: "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron@charter.net>
>
>
> What John said. Here is what Stits fabric gap seals look like after 20 years.
The
> area within the prop arc is starting to crack on one aileron, will be a simple
> repair. This winter. Not a priority. Everything else is still OK.
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
>
> Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446666#446666
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1040741_small_130.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1040743_small_739.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1040742_small_684.jpg
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 03:21:56 PM PST US
> From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: HKS to 912 Slingshot
>
>
> I have had 912 series engines. Never had an EGT. Never
> needed and EGT. Put a few hours on all of them.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Omak, WA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> McCarthy Tom
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:33 AM
> Subject: Kolb-List: HKS to 912 Slingshot
>
> <mccarthy@jefnet.com>
>
> I have not posted for some time, but read the list fairly
> regularly. After a little over 5 years and 203 hours, the
> HKS 700E was removed and I am now in the process of
> installing the 912 UL on my Slingshot. I was very pleased
> with the HKS, but thought it lacked the climb I was used to
> in my previous Kolb planes. I was able to sell the motor on
> Barnstormers in one day with many other takers in waiting.
> I have been collecting the necessary parts over the past 3
> years for the changeover, and thanks to Brian's help at EAA,
> the last of the expensive stuff was acquired. Additional
> thanks should go out to Daryl at Warp drive, it is a
> pleasure to deal with these companies that have customer
> skills that equal the excellent products they sell. I have
> a used Titan exhaust and am surprised that it was not pre
> drilled for the EGT probes, any insight would be
> appreciated.
>
>
> Tom McCarthy
> Slingshot N863GB 912 UL
> Zenith 601HD N514TM 912 UL
>
>
> Photoshare, and much much more:
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 03:31:06 PM PST US
> From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: HKS to 912 Slingshot
>
>
> Meant to say, "I have had three 912..............
>
> Sorry about that. Getting old is Hell. ;-)
>
> john h
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> John Hauck
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 4:22 PM
> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: HKS to 912 Slingshot
>
> <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> I have had 912 series engines. Never had an EGT. Never
> needed and EGT. Put a few hours on all of them.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Omak, WA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> McCarthy Tom
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:33 AM
> Subject: Kolb-List: HKS to 912 Slingshot
>
> <mccarthy@jefnet.com>
>
> I have not posted for some time, but read the list fairly
> regularly. After a little over 5 years and 203 hours, the
> HKS 700E was removed and I am now in the process of
> installing the 912 UL on my Slingshot. I was very pleased
> with the HKS, but thought it lacked the climb I was used to
> in my previous Kolb planes. I was able to sell the motor on
> Barnstormers in one day with many other takers in waiting.
> I have been collecting the necessary parts over the past 3
> years for the changeover, and thanks to Brian's help at EAA,
> the last of the expensive stuff was acquired. Additional
> thanks should go out to Daryl at Warp drive, it is a
> pleasure to deal with these companies that have customer
> skills that equal the excellent products they sell. I have
> a used Titan exhaust and am surprised that it was not pre
> drilled for the EGT probes, any insight would be
> appreciated.
>
>
> Tom McCarthy
> Slingshot N863GB 912 UL
> Zenith 601HD N514TM 912 UL
>
>
> Photoshare, and much much more:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Photoshare, and much much more:
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________
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>
> Time: 11:11:00 PM PST US
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> Subject: Kolb-List: Official Kolb-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)
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| Subject: | Re: HKS to 912 Slingshot |
Hey John,
I see you are in Omak headed south. Stop by on your way through. We are
only 2 miles off of Hwy 17 near Mesa. We would like to see ya'll! Just let
us know.
Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: John Hauck
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 3:21 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: HKS to 912 Slingshot
I have had 912 series engines. Never had an EGT. Never
needed and EGT. Put a few hours on all of them.
john h
mkIII
Omak, WA
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
McCarthy Tom
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:33 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: HKS to 912 Slingshot
<mccarthy@jefnet.com>
I have not posted for some time, but read the list fairly
regularly. After a little over 5 years and 203 hours, the
HKS 700E was removed and I am now in the process of
installing the 912 UL on my Slingshot. I was very pleased
with the HKS, but thought it lacked the climb I was used to
in my previous Kolb planes. I was able to sell the motor on
Barnstormers in one day with many other takers in waiting.
I have been collecting the necessary parts over the past 3
years for the changeover, and thanks to Brian's help at EAA,
the last of the expensive stuff was acquired. Additional
thanks should go out to Daryl at Warp drive, it is a
pleasure to deal with these companies that have customer
skills that equal the excellent products they sell. I have
a used Titan exhaust and am surprised that it was not pre
drilled for the EGT probes, any insight would be
appreciated.
Tom McCarthy
Slingshot N863GB 912 UL
Zenith 601HD N514TM 912 UL
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| Subject: | Re: HKS to 912 Slingshot |
Once again, John,
In my invite I neglected to mention my Kolb Firestar II/ HKS 912 project is
near ready for inspection. Would like to have your "critique".
Hope you will stop by.
Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: John Hauck
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 3:21 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: HKS to 912 Slingshot
I have had 912 series engines. Never had an EGT. Never
needed and EGT. Put a few hours on all of them.
john h
mkIII
Omak, WA
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
McCarthy Tom
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:33 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: HKS to 912 Slingshot
<mccarthy@jefnet.com>
I have not posted for some time, but read the list fairly
regularly. After a little over 5 years and 203 hours, the
HKS 700E was removed and I am now in the process of
installing the 912 UL on my Slingshot. I was very pleased
with the HKS, but thought it lacked the climb I was used to
in my previous Kolb planes. I was able to sell the motor on
Barnstormers in one day with many other takers in waiting.
I have been collecting the necessary parts over the past 3
years for the changeover, and thanks to Brian's help at EAA,
the last of the expensive stuff was acquired. Additional
thanks should go out to Daryl at Warp drive, it is a
pleasure to deal with these companies that have customer
skills that equal the excellent products they sell. I have
a used Titan exhaust and am surprised that it was not pre
drilled for the EGT probes, any insight would be
appreciated.
Tom McCarthy
Slingshot N863GB 912 UL
Zenith 601HD N514TM 912 UL
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 09/01/15 |
Ted:
What do you mean by "extremely stick heavy"?
john h
mkIII
Omak, WA
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Theodore Cowan
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 2:07 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 09/01/15
<tc1917@bellsouth.net>
I have a 912 on my slingshot almost ten years now. Just
make sure you put the proper shims under the rear mounts.
The rear needs to be abt 3/4 of an inch higher than the
front or it will be extremely stick heavy. I will send
exact measurements if you need them. If your cage is one of
the last ones built it may have the corrected mounts. Ted
cowan 912 ul zoom zoom. P.s. I have a great little seven
rib firestar for sale w/503 and ten gal tank.
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> 1. 05:33 AM - HKS to 912 Slingshot (McCarthy Tom)
> 2. 01:59 PM - Re: Aileron Gap Seals (John Hauck)
> 3. 03:13 PM - Re: Aileron Gap Seals (Richard Pike)
> 4. 03:21 PM - Re: HKS to 912 Slingshot (John Hauck)
> 5. 03:31 PM - Re: HKS to 912 Slingshot (John Hauck)
> 6. 11:11 PM - Official Kolb-List FAQ (Frequently Asked
Questions) (Matt Dralle)
> 7. 11:23 PM - Official Kolb-List Usage Guidelines
(Matt Dralle)
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> ________________________________ Message 1
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 05:33:42 AM PST US
> From: McCarthy Tom <mccarthy@jefnet.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: HKS to 912 Slingshot
>
>
> I have not posted for some time, but read the list fairly
regularly.
> After a little over 5 years and 203 hours, the HKS 700E
was removed
> and I am now in the process of installing the 912 UL on my
Slingshot.
> I was very pleased with the HKS, but thought it lacked the
climb I was used to in my previous Kolb planes.
> I was able to sell the motor on Barnstormers in one day
with many
> other takers in waiting. I have been collecting the
necessary parts
> over the past 3 years for the changeover, and thanks to
Brian's help
> at EAA, the last of the expensive stuff was acquired.
Additional
> thanks should go out to Daryl at Warp drive, it is a
pleasure to deal with these companies that have customer
skills
> that equal the excellent products they sell. I have a
used Titan exhaust
> and am surprised that it was not pre drilled for the EGT
probes, any
> insight would be appreciated.
>
>
> Tom McCarthy
> Slingshot N863GB 912 UL
> Zenith 601HD N514TM 912 UL
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 01:59:27 PM PST US
> From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Aileron Gap Seals
>
>
> The best method for durability is the same procedure
outlined in old
> Kolb Aircraft instruction manuals. Tape is temporary.
>
> I have an aileron gap seal that is 23 years old and
3,300.0+ hours.
> Another that is 15 years old and I don't know how many
hours on that
> one. Both are showing some age, but still serviceable.
>
> This system is more work intensive than tape, but looks
and performs
> the best, in my humble opinion.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Omak, WA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Shadow94
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 10:32 AM
> Subject: Kolb-List: Aileron Gap Seals
>
> <seanote@echoes.net>
>
> Starting to plan ahead for sealing the aileron gaps and
was hoping a
> few of my fellow Kolbers might be able and willing to
share some
> photos of gap sealing methods. Preferably ones that work
the best for
> them.
>
> --------
> Mark
> Twinstar MKII
> Great Bend, PA
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446620#446620
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> ________________________________ Message 3
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 03:13:04 PM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Aileron Gap Seals
> From: "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron@charter.net>
>
>
> What John said. Here is what Stits fabric gap seals look
like after 20
> years. The area within the prop arc is starting to crack
on one
> aileron, will be a simple repair. This winter. Not a
priority. Everything else is still OK.
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
>
> Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446666#446666
>
>
> Attachments:
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>
> ________________________________ Message 4
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 03:21:56 PM PST US
> From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: HKS to 912 Slingshot
>
>
> I have had 912 series engines. Never had an EGT. Never
needed and
> EGT. Put a few hours on all of them.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Omak, WA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
McCarthy
> Tom
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:33 AM
> Subject: Kolb-List: HKS to 912 Slingshot
>
> <mccarthy@jefnet.com>
>
> I have not posted for some time, but read the list fairly
regularly.
> After a little over 5 years and 203 hours, the HKS 700E
was removed
> and I am now in the process of installing the 912 UL on my
Slingshot.
> I was very pleased with the HKS, but thought it lacked the
climb I was
> used to in my previous Kolb planes. I was able to sell
the motor on
> Barnstormers in one day with many other takers in waiting.
> I have been collecting the necessary parts over the past
3 years for
> the changeover, and thanks to Brian's help at EAA, the
last of the
> expensive stuff was acquired. Additional thanks should go
out to
> Daryl at Warp drive, it is a pleasure to deal with these
companies
> that have customer
> skills that equal the excellent products they sell. I
have
> a used Titan exhaust and am surprised that it was not pre
drilled for
> the EGT probes, any insight would be appreciated.
>
>
> Tom McCarthy
> Slingshot N863GB 912 UL
> Zenith 601HD N514TM 912 UL
>
>
> Photoshare, and much much more:
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 5
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 03:31:06 PM PST US
> From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: HKS to 912 Slingshot
>
>
> Meant to say, "I have had three 912..............
>
> Sorry about that. Getting old is Hell. ;-)
>
> john h
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
John Hauck
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 4:22 PM
> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: HKS to 912 Slingshot
>
> <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> I have had 912 series engines. Never had an EGT. Never
needed and
> EGT. Put a few hours on all of them.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Omak, WA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
McCarthy
> Tom
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:33 AM
> Subject: Kolb-List: HKS to 912 Slingshot
>
> <mccarthy@jefnet.com>
>
> I have not posted for some time, but read the list fairly
regularly.
> After a little over 5 years and 203 hours, the HKS 700E
was removed
> and I am now in the process of installing the 912 UL on my
Slingshot.
> I was very pleased with the HKS, but thought it lacked the
climb I was
> used to in my previous Kolb planes. I was able to sell
the motor on
> Barnstormers in one day with many other takers in waiting.
> I have been collecting the necessary parts over the past
3 years for
> the changeover, and thanks to Brian's help at EAA, the
last of the
> expensive stuff was acquired. Additional thanks should go
out to
> Daryl at Warp drive, it is a pleasure to deal with these
companies
> that have customer
> skills that equal the excellent products they sell. I
have
> a used Titan exhaust and am surprised that it was not pre
drilled for
> the EGT probes, any insight would be appreciated.
>
>
> Tom McCarthy
> Slingshot N863GB 912 UL
> Zenith 601HD N514TM 912 UL
>
>
> Photoshare, and much much more:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Photoshare, and much much more:
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 6
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 11:11:00 PM PST US
> From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Official Kolb-List FAQ (Frequently
Asked
> Questions)
>
>
> Dear Listers,
>
> Please read over the Kolb-List Frequently Asked Questions
(FAQ) below.
> The complete Kolb-List FAQ including the Usage Guidelines
can be found
> at the following URL:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Kolb-List.FAQ.html
>
> Thank you,
>
> Matt Dralle
> Matronics Email List Administrator
>
>
> [ Note: This FAQ was designed to be displayed with a fixed
width font such as
> Courier. Proportional fonts will cause display
formatting
> errors. ]
>
>
> This FAQ can also be viewed in HTML online at the
following address:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm
>
>
>
************************************************************
> ******* LIST POLICIES AND FREQUENTLY ASKED
QUESTIONS *******
>
************************************************************
>
>
> PLEASE READ. This document contains Kolb-List policies
and
> information for new and old subscribers. Understanding
the Kolb-List
> policies will minimize problems for the Administrator, and
will help
> keep the Kolb-List running smoothly for all of us.
>
>
> ******************************************
> *** Quick Start Guide to List Features ***
> ******************************************
>
> There are many features available on the Matronics Email
Lists and each
> one is described in detailed below. However, using the
List Navigator
> you can quickly access the complete set of features
available for this
> List. The List Navigator can be found at the following
URL:
>
>
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
>
>
> ****************************************
> *** How to Subscribe and Unsubscribe ***
> ****************************************
>
> Simply go to the Web Page shown below and enter your
email address and
> select the List(s) that you wish to subscribe or
unsubscribed from. You
> may also use the handy "Find" function to determine the
exact syntax of
> your email address as it is subscribed to the List.
Please see the
> complete instructions at the top of the Web Page for
more information.
> The Subscribe/Unsubscribe web page is:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
>
> Note that you will receive TWO conformation emails
regarding your subsciption
> process. The first verifies that your
subscription/unsubsciption request
> was received, and the second confirms that the process
has been completed.
>
> You should receive the first email within a few minutes
of your request.
> The second conformation will arrive in less than 24
hours. You
> cannot post
>
> until you receive the second conformation email message.
>
>
> *****************************
> *** How to Post a Message ***
> *****************************
>
> Send an email message to:
>
> kolb-list@matronics.com
>
> Your message will be redistributed to everyone currently
subscribed
> to the List.
>
>
> *****************************************************
> *** SPAM Fighter - You Must be Subscribed to Post ***
> *****************************************************
>
> When a new post is received by the system, the From:
line of the message
> is checked and compared against the current subscription
list. If the
> email address is found, the message is passed on to the
List Processor.
> If the email address isn't found in the current list of
subscribers, it
> is dumped. This serves to very effectively thwart 99%
of the SPAM that
> gets posted to the Lists.
>
> Remember, however, that the syntax of your email address
is very important
> with regard to the configuration of your email
application such as Outlook
> or Eudora. For example, the following two email
addresses may be
> functionally equivalent, but only one would pass the
Matronics Email SPAM
> test depending on which was syntax was subscribed to the
given List:
>
> smith@machine.domain.com
>
> smith@domain.com
>
> Either email address syntax is alright, just be sure that
you
> configure your email application to match *exactly* the
address
> you've subscibed to the List.
>
>
> **************************************
> *** Enclosure Support on the Lists ***
> **************************************
>
> Limited posting of enclosures such as pictures,
documents, and spreadsheets
> is supported on the Lists. There are a number of
restrictions, and these
> are detailed below. Please abide by the rules put forth
regarding the
> content of enclosures.
>
> These are some of the features and limits of enclosures
on the Matronics
> Lists:
>
> 1) Enclosures will only be posted to the Real Time
version of the Lists.
>
> 2) Enclosures will NOT be included in the Daily Digest
version of the Lists.
>
> 3) Enclosures WILL BE forwarded on to the BBS Forum Web
site.
>
> 4) Enclosures will NOT be appended to the Archives.
>
> 5) Enclosures will NOT be available in the List Browse
feature.
>
> 6) Only the following file types and extensions will be
allowed:
>
> bmp doc dwg dxf gif jpg pdf png txt xls
>
> All other enclosures types will be rejected and email
returned to
> sender. The enclosure types listed above are
relatively safe from
> a virus standpoint and don't pose a particularly
large security risk.
>
> 7) !! All incoming enclosures will be scanned for
viruses prior to posting
> to the List. This is done in real time and will not
slow down
> the process of posting the message !!
>
>
> Here are some rules for posting enclosures. Failure to
abide by
> these rules
>
> could result in the removal of a subscriber's email
address from the Lists.
>
> 1) Pay attention to what you are posting!! Make sure
that the files
> you are enclosing aren't HUGE (greater that 1MB).
Remember that there
> are still people checking they're email via dial up
modem. If you post
> 30MB worth of pictures, you are placing an
unnecessary burden on these
> folks and the rest of us, for that matter.
>
> 2) SCALE YOUR PICTURES DOWN!!! I don't want to see huge
3000 x 2000
> pictures getting posted that are 3 or 4MB each. This
is just
> unacceptable. Use a program such as Photoshop to
scale the picture
> down to something on the order of 800 x 600 and try
to keep the
> file size to less-than 200KB, preferably much less.
>
> Microsoft has a really awesome utility available for
free that allows
> you to Right-Click on a picture in Explorer and
automatically
> scale it down and resave it. This is a great utility
- get it, use it!
>
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppow
ertoys.mspx
> Look for the link "Image Resizer"
>
> 3) !! This would seem to go without saying, but I'll say
it anyway. Do not
> post anything that would be considered offensive by
your grandmother.
> And you know what I'm saying; I don't want to see
anything even
> questionable. !!
>
> 4) REMEMBER THIS: If you post a 1MB enclosure to a List
with 1000 members
> subscribed, your 1MB enclosure must be resent 1000
times amounting
> to 1MB X 1000 = 1 Gigabyte of network traffic!! BE
CAREFUL and
> BE COURTEOUS!
>
> Also see the section below on the Matronics Photo and
File Share where
> you can have your files and photos posted on the
Matronics web server
> for long time viewing and availability.
>
>
> *******************
> *** Digest Mode ***
> *******************
>
> Each day, starting at 12 midnight PST US, a new 'digest'
will be started.
> This digest will contain the same information that is
currently appended
> to the archive file. It has all of the headers except
for the "From:"
> and "Subject:" lines removed, and includes a message
separator consisting
> of a line of underscores.
>
> Each day at 23:55 PST US, the day's messages as
described above will be
> combined and sent as a single message to everyone on the
digest email list.
>
> To subscribe to the digest list, use the same
subscription web form
> described above, and just select the Digest version of
the List.
>
> http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
>
> Note that you *can* be subscribed to both the realtime
and digest versions
> of the List at the same time. This is perfectly
acceptable.
>
> Now some caveats:
>
> * Messages sent to "kolb-list-digest" will be forwarded
to the standard
> email list. In other words, you cannot post messages
only to the
> digest List.
>
> * If you are subscribed to both the regular List and the
digest List, you
> will receive the realtime postings as well as the
digest at the end of
> the day.
>
> * If you reply to the digest email, your message will be
forwarded to the
> normal list associated with the digest. Important
Note: Please change
> the subject line to reflect the topic of your
response! Also, please
> *do not include all or most of the digest in your
reply*.
>
>
> ****************************
> *** List Digest Browser ***
> ****************************
>
> An archive of all the List Digests can be found online
in either plain text
> or HTML format. These archives contain the exact Digest
that was posted to
> the Digest email list on the given day. The Digest
Archives can be found
> at the following location:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest
>
>
> *****************************************
> *** The "DO NOT ARCHIVE" Message Flag ***
> *****************************************
>
> At times, your message may concern something that is
revelent only
> to a very
>
> small number of persons or to a limited area, and you
may not wish
> to archive
>
> it. In such a case, simply put the following phrase
anywhere in the
> message:
>
> do not archive
>
> Your message will not be appended to the archive, but
will be sent to List
> email distribution as normal.
>
>
> **********************************************
> ***** READ THIS - Automatic Unsubscribes *****
> **********************************************
>
> Note that if your email address begins to cause problems
such as bounced
> email, mailbox is filled, or any other errors, your
address will be promptly
> removed from the List. If you discover that you are no
longer receiving
> messages from the Kolb-List, go to the following Web
page, and look
> for your email address and a possible reason for your
removal.
>
> The Matronics Email List uses utility called the "Email
Weasel" that
> automatically looks though the day's bounced email for
addresses that
> caused problems due to common things like "user is
unknown", "mailbox
> full", etc. If the Email Weasel removes your email
address from the
> Lists you will find record of it at the following URL:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/unsubscribed
>
> If the problem listed on the web site above has been
resolved, please feel
> free to resubscribe to the Lists of your choice.
>
>
> *******************************
> *** List Member Information ***
> *******************************
>
> If you have not done so already, please email me your
phone numbers and
> paper mail address in the following format:
>
> smith@somehost.com
> Joe Smith
> 123 Airport Lane
> Tower, CA 91234-1234
> 098-765-1234 w
> 123-456-7890 h
>
> Please forward this information to the following email
address:
>
> requests@matronics.com
>
> I have a file of such things, that I typically use to
contact you when
> there are problems with your email address. The
information will NOT
> be used for any other commercial purpose.
>
>
> ****************************************
> *** Realtime Web Email List Browsing ***
> ****************************************
>
> Recent messages posted to the Kolb-List are also made
available on
> the Web for realtime browsing. Seven days worth of back
postings are
> available with this feature. The messages can be sorted
by Subject,
> Author, Date, or Message Thread. The Realtime List
Browser indexes are
> updated twice per hour at xx:15 and xx:45. You can also
reply to a
> message
>
> or start a new message directly from the List Browser
Interface (coming soon).
> You do not have to be subscribed to the given list to
use the List
> Browser Interface in view-mode.
>
>
http://www.matronics.com/browselist/kolb-list
>
>
> *******************************************
> *** Web Forums Bulletin Board Interface ***
> *******************************************
>
> A phpBB BBS web Forums front end is available for all
Kolb-List content.
> content. The Forums contain all of the same content
available via
> the email
>
> distribution and found on the various archive viewing
formats such as the
> List Browse, etc. Any posts on the web Forums will be
cross posted to the
> respective email List, and posts to the Email List will
be cross posted to
> the web Forums.
>
> You may view all List content on the Forums without any
special login.
> If you wish to post a message via the Web Forum
interface, however, you
> will need to Register. This is a simple process that
takes only a few
> minutes. A link to the Registration page can be found
at the top of the
> main web Forums page. Note that registering on the
Forum web site also
> enables you to send email posts to the Lists as well.
You will also
> need to
>
> Subscribe to the respective Email List as described
above to receive the
> Email Distribution of the List, however.
>
> The Matroincs Email List Web BBS Forums can be found at
the following URL:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com
>
>
> *********************************
> *** Matronics Email List Wiki ***
> *********************************
>
> In an attempt to make it easy to store and find structured
and often
> accessed information, Matronics has installed a Wiki at:
>
> http://wiki.matronics.com
>
> The Wiki allows individuals to create web pages to contain
useful
> information for other users of the mailing lists and web
site. Unlike
> an ordinary web page
>
> where the content needs to be submitted to Matronics for
inclusion,
> the Wiki permits the users to construct their own pages
and have them visible immediately.
>
> While constructing pages for the Wiki is not difficult,
some may not
> be comfortable building pages. In that case, simply
prepare the text
> and any images and email it to:
>
> wiki-support@matronics.com
>
> One of the volunteers on that list will take your
submission and
> construct a Wiki page for you.
>
> Often someone produces a particularly useful posting in
email one one
> of the Lists that would be of general interest. In that
case Matronics
> may take that post and convert it into a Wiki page.
>
>
> *********************
> *** List Archives ***
> *********************
>
> A file containing of all of the previous postings to the
Kolb-List is
> available on line. The archive file information is
available via the
> Web and FTP in a number of forms. Each are briefly
described below:
>
>
> * Kolb-List.FAQ
>
> - Latest version of the Kolb-List Frequently
Asked Question
> page (this document).
>
> * Kolb-Archive.digest.complete
>
> - Complete file with most of the email header
info removed and
> page breaks inserted between messages.
>
> * Kolb-Archive.digest.vol-??
>
> - Same as the file above, but broken up into
small sections that
> can more easily handled.
>
> * Kolb-Archive.digest.complete.zip
>
> - Same as the Kolb-Archive.digest.complete file
above, but
> in PKZIP format. Use "binary" data transfer
methods.
>
> * Kolb-Archive.digest.complete.Z
>
> - Same as the Kolb-Archive.digest.complete file
above, but in
> UNIX compress format. Use "binary" data
transfer methods.
>
>
> Download Via FTP
> ----------------
>
> The archive file is available via anonymous FTP from
ftp.matronics.com
> in the "/pub/Archives" directory. It is updated daily
and can be found in
> a number of formats as described above. (All filenames
are case
> sensitive.)
>
> ftp://ftp.matronics.com/pub/Archives
>
>
> Download Via Web
> ----------------
>
> The archives are also available via a web listing.
These can be found
> toward the bottom of the following web page:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/archives
>
>
> ******************************************
> *** Complete List Web Archive Browsing ***
> ******************************************
>
> All messages posted to the Kolb-List are also available
using the
> Email List Archive Browsing feature. With this utility,
all messages
> in the List are indexed, and individual sub-archives can
be browsed.
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/archive/archive-index.cgi?Kolb
>
>
> *****************************************
> **** High-Speed Archive Search Engine ***
> *****************************************
>
> You can use the custom, high-performance Matronics Email
List Search Engine
> to quickly locate and browse any messages that have been
posted to the
> List. The Engine allows the user to easily search any
of the currently
> available List archives.
>
> http://www.matronics.com/search
>
>
> ****************************
> *** File and Photo Share ***
> ****************************
>
> With the Matronics Email List File and Photo Share you
can share pictures
> and other data with members of the List without having
to forward a
> copy of it to everyone. To share your Files and Photos,
simply email
> them to:
>
> pictures@matronics.com
>
> !! ==> Please including the following information with
each submission:
>
> 1) Email Lists that they are related to.
> 2) Your Full Name.
> 3) Your Email Address.
> 4) One line Subject description.
> 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph
description of topic.
> 6-x) One-line Description of each photo
or file
>
> Prior to public availability of the files and photos,
each will be scanned
> for viruses. Please also note that the process of
making the files and
> photos available on the web site is a pseudo-manual
process, and I try to
> process them every few days.
>
> Following the availability of the new Photoshare, an
email message will be
> sent to the Email Lists enumerated in 1) above
indicating that the new
> Share is available and what the direct URL to it is.
>
> For a current list of available Photoshares, have a look
at the Main
> Index Page:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
>
>
> **************************
> *** List Archive CDROM ***
> **************************
>
> A complete Matronics Email List Archive CD is available
that contains
> all of the archives since the beginning of each of the
Lists. The archives
> for all of the Lists are included on the CD along with a
freeware search
> engine written by a list member. The CD is burned the
day you order it
> and will contain archive received up to the last
minute. They make
> great gifts!
>
> http://www.matronics.com/ArchiveCDROM
>
>
> **********************************
> *** List Support Contributions ***
> **********************************
>
> The Matronics Lists are run *completely* through the
support of it members.
> You won't find any PopUpAds, flashing Banner ads, or any
other form of
> annoying commercialism on either the Email Messages or
the List web pages
> associated with the Matronics Email Lists. Every year
during November
> I run a low-key, low-pressure "Fund Raiser" where,
throughout the month,
> I ask List members to make a Contribution in any amount
with which they
> are comfortable.
>
> I will often offer free gifts with certain contribution
levels during the
> Fund Raiser to increase the participation. The gifts
are usually donated
> by companies that are themselves List members.
>
> Your Contributions go directly to supporting the
operation of the Lists
> including the high-speed, business-class Internet
connection, server
> system hardware and software upgrades, and to partially
offset the many
> many hours I spend running, maintaining, upgrading, and
developing the
> variety of services found here.
>
> Generally Contributions range from $20 to $100 and are
completely voluntary
> and non-compulsory. I ask only that if person enjoys
the Lists and obtains
> value from them, that they make a Contribution of equal
magnitude.
>
> Contributions are accepted throughout the year, and if
you've just
> subscribed, feel free to make a Contribution when you've
settled in.
>
> The website for making SSL Secure Contributions is
listed below. There are
> a variety of payment methods including Visa and
MasterCard, PayPal, and
> sending a personal check.
>
> If you enjoy and value the List, won't you make a
Contribution today to
> support its continued operation?
>
> http://www.matronics.com/contributions
>
> Thank you!
> Matt Dralle
> Email List Administrator
>
>
>
************************************************************
******************
> Kolb-List Usage Guidelines
>
************************************************************
**********
> ********
>
> The following details the official Usage Guidelines for
the Kolb-List.
> You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by
the rules therein.
> Failure to use the Kolb-List in the manner described below
may result
> in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
>
>
> Kolb-List Policy Statement
>
> The purpose of the Kolb-List is to provide a forum of
discussion for
> things related to this particular discussion group. The
List's goals
> are to serve as an information resource to its members; to
deliver
> high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster
camaraderie
> among its members; and to support safe operation.
Reaching these
> goals requires the participation and cooperation of each
and every
> member of the List. To this end, the following guidelines
have been established:
>
>
> - Please keep all posts related to the List at some level.
Do not submit
> posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random
humor, long
> lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
>
> - THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your
post will be
> relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that,
DON'T send it.
>
> - Remember that your post will be included for posterity
in an archive
> that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try
to be concise and
> terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy
posts and
> responses.
>
> - Keep your signature brief. Please include your name,
email address,
> aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A
short line
> about where you are in the building process is also
nice. Avoid
> bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume
unnecessary
> space in the archive.
>
> - DON'T post requests to the List for information when
that info is
> easily obtainable from other widely available sources.
Consult the
> web page or FAQ first.
>
> - If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:"
line of
> your response the same as that of the original post.
This makes it
> easy to find threads in the archive.
>
> - When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post
in your
> response. DO use lines from the original post to help
"tune in" the
> reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The
impact that
> quoting the entire original post has on the size of the
archive
> can not be overstated!
>
> - When the poster asks you to respond to him/her
personally, DO NOT
> then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that
clicking the
> "reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily
send your
> response to the original poster. You might have to
actively address
> your response with the original poster's email address.
>
> - DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have
something
> to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to
go!", "I
> agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are
better sent
> to the original poster directly, rather than to the List
at large.
>
> - When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that
you need to
> comment on every last point in their posts, unless you
can truly
> contribute something valuable.
>
> - Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep
your tone
> polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments,
personally attack
> other listers, or take the moral high ground on an
obviously
> controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless
debate that
> will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
>
> - Occasional posts by vendors or individuals who are
regularly
> subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable.
Posts by
> List members promoting their respective products or
items for sale
> should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not
resemble
> a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about
commercialism, but
> is about sharing information and knowledge. This
applies to
> everyone, including those who provide products to the
entire
> community. Informal presentation and moderation should
be the
> operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists.
>
> -------
>
>
> [This is an automated posting.]
>
> do not archive
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 7
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 11:23:17 PM PST US
> From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Official Kolb-List Usage Guidelines
>
>
> Dear Listers,
>
> Please read over the Kolb-List Usage Guidelines below.
The complete
> Kolb-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be
found at the
> following URL:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Kolb-List.FAQ.html
>
> Thank you,
>
> Matt Dralle
> Matronics Email List Administrator
>
>
>
************************************************************
******************
> Kolb-List Usage Guidelines
>
************************************************************
**********
> ********
>
> The following details the official Usage Guidelines for
the Kolb-List.
> You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by
the rules therein.
> Failure to use the Kolb-List in the manner described below
may result
> in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
>
>
> Kolb-List Policy Statement
>
> The purpose of the Kolb-List is to provide a forum of
discussion for
> things related to this particular discussion group. The
List's goals
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