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0. 01:02 AM - PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During November! (Matt Dralle)
1. 04:40 AM - Spitfire flight (Patrick Ladd)
2. 05:34 AM - Re: Spitfire flight (william sullivan)
3. 07:36 AM - Re: Spitfire flight (Rex Rodebush)
4. 07:46 AM - Kolb flight over the Ozarks (Rex Rodebush)
5. 08:18 AM - Re: Kolb flight over the Ozarks (william sullivan)
6. 08:29 AM - Re: Kolb flight over the Ozarks (John Hauck)
7. 09:13 AM - Re: Kolb flight over the Ozarks (Rex Rodebush)
8. 09:29 AM - Re: Re: Kolb flight over the Ozarks (John Hauck)
9. 10:17 AM - Re: Spitfire flight (Tom O'Hara)
10. 12:11 PM - Re: Kolb flight over the Ozarks (B Young)
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| Subject: | PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During November! |
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Here it is for the benefit of those interested. My Spitfire Flight.
John and those others who consider that this has no place on a Kolb list
(and they may be right) look away now or hit delete. For those who have
expressed interest, here it is, an experience which very few have had
since 1940.
I went to Biggin Hill, kown as Biggin on the Bump from the steeple
chase type runway, where I FLEW A SPITFIRE ON Wednesday. 28th Oct. Wx
was awful.Spent the night in digs nearby listening to the rain. Morning
was overcast with heavy rain forecast. Turned up at Biggin at 8.30 fully
expecting to have a cancellation. However around 10 a clearance came
through.Cloudbase above 4/5000 with just a little light scud around 1200
ft. A long and boring talk to cover all the Health and Safety aspects
which surrounds everything we do today in case I break a nail and decide
to sue somebody.This was followed by a very good talk about actual
safety procedures in the case of having to bale out etc. Decide that
unless the wing falls off I shall stay in the a/c. Got tucked in the
rear cockpit which was comfortable but narrow. My pilot taxied and we
took off. Great surge of power as the throttle opened and the tail came
up. Climbed out of the pattern and the pilot handed over control to me.
2500ft lid as we were under the approach into Gatwick. No room between
my legs for the stick to move sideways, so it was fixed vertically from
the cockpit floor to above knee height with no lateral movement but with
a swivelling handle on the top which gave the left to right movement.
Controls were very light. Laterally just light, fore and aft, like
balancing on a pin. I remembered during helicopter training being told
to rest the wrist on the knee and keep it there. All stick movement to
be done with the fingers. The Spit. was just like that. Wings seemed
very small and the whole thing had a light aircraft feel about like
flying my Extra but with much lighter control inputs.I am used to steep
turns from my gliding days and have no problem in putting a wing down.
Did what I thought were steep turns,, until the pilot stood us
absolutely vertically on one wingtip. The steepest I have ever been
except during aerobatics. Flew around the area and could see down the
Thames to Gravesend, Rochester airport, Brands Hatch circuit, .Kenley,
another famous B of B station.Very nostalgic to be flying in the same
airspace that the Battle of Britain was fought in and it was easy to
imagine some young guy, less than a quarter my age, with only a couple
of hundred flying hours flying over that same counrtryside after maybe
the fourth climb of the day to 20,000feet, perhaps just a boring patrol,
perhaps shot up from fight, nursing a damaged plane back into Biggin
with the prospect of doing it all again, soon.
Enough day dreaming. Did I want to do a victory roll? You bet. When I
did this in the Mustang, about 40 years ago, we barrel rolled and had
time for discussion while it happened, More stick, more, hard over. I
can hear the pilots voice now. In the Spit we wound her up to about 280
and pulled into a very steep climb and FLICKED. I have never been spun
so fast. Faster than any fairground ride. We had spun through 360
degrees before I could blink. No need to be strapped in. I was plastered
against the side of the cockpit. Slowly lost height as we flew back
towards Biggin. Entered circuit at 1000ft, thump as the wheel came down
on downwind leg, slowed as the flaps were deployed and a nice curving
approach right onto the numbers. Love to do it again when I had more
idea what to expect.
The local pub for Biggin pilots during the war was The White Hart at the
village of Brasted. There they preserve behind glass the old wooden
blackout shutters from the pub. These are signed in chalk by the many of
the pilots who used the bar. Paddy Barthrop, Peter Townsend, Screwball
Buerling, Neville Duke etc. An amazing relic to have survived. I have
had a drink there a few times and although the place has been tarted up
it does not need much imagination to see it filled with young guys in
uniform, drinking and smoking as though it was there last day on earth.
Which for many, of course, it was.
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Spitfire flight |
Pat- Thank you! It's something lots of us either can't afford, or will never
have the opportunity to do. Great write up.
do not archive
Bill Sullivan
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On Sun, 11/1/15, Patrick Ladd <patrickjladd@hotmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Kolb-List: Spitfire flight
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Date: Sunday, November 1, 2015, 7:40 AM
Here it is for the benefit of those interested.
My Spitfire Flight.
John and those others who consider that this has no place on
a Kolb list (and
they may be right) look away now or hit delete. For those
who have expressed
interest, here it is, an experience which very few have had
since 1940.
I went to Biggin Hill, kown as Biggin on the Bump
from the steeple
chase type runway, where I FLEW A SPITFIRE ON Wednesday.
28th Oct. Wx was
awful.Spent the night in digs nearby listening to the rain.
Morning was overcast
with heavy rain forecast. Turned up at Biggin at 8.30 fully
expecting to have a
cancellation. However around 10 a clearance came
through.Cloudbase above 4/5000
with just a little light scud around 1200 ft. A long and
boring talk to cover
all the Health and Safety aspects which surrounds everything
we do today in case
I break a nail and decide to sue somebody.This was followed
by a very good talk
about actual safety procedures in the case of having to bale
out etc. Decide
that unless the wing falls off I shall stay in the a/c. Got
tucked in the rear
cockpit which was comfortable but narrow. My pilot taxied
and we took off.
Great surge of power as the throttle opened and the tail
came up. Climbed out of
the pattern and the pilot handed over control to me. 2500ft
lid as we were under
the approach into Gatwick. No room between my legs for the
stick to move
sideways, so it was fixed vertically from the cockpit floor
to above knee height
with no lateral movement but with a swivelling handle on the
top which gave the
left to right movement. Controls were very light. Laterally
just light, fore and
aft, like balancing on a pin. I remembered during helicopter
training being told
to rest the wrist on the knee and keep it there. All stick
movement to be done
with the fingers. The Spit. was just like that. Wings seemed
very small and the
whole thing had a light aircraft feel about like flying my
Extra but with much
lighter control inputs.I am used to steep turns from my
gliding days and have no
problem in putting a wing down. Did what I thought
were steep turns,,
until the pilot stood us absolutely vertically on one
wingtip. The steepest I
have ever been except during aerobatics. Flew around the
area and could see down
the Thames to Gravesend, Rochester airport, Brands Hatch
circuit, .Kenley,
another famous B of B station.Very nostalgic to be flying in
the same airspace
that the Battle of Britain was fought in and it was easy to
imagine some young
guy, less than a quarter my age, with only a couple of
hundred
flying hours flying over that same counrtryside after
maybe the fourth
climb of the day to 20,000feet, perhaps just a boring
patrol, perhaps shot up
from fight, nursing a damaged plane back into Biggin with
the prospect of doing
it all again, soon.
Enough day dreaming. Did I want to do a victory roll?
You bet. When I did
this in the Mustang, about 40 years ago, we barrel rolled
and had time for
discussion while it happened, More stick, more, hard over. I
can hear the pilots
voice now. In the Spit we wound her up to about 280 and
pulled into a very
steep climb and FLICKED. I have never been spun so fast.
Faster than any
fairground ride. We had spun through 360 degrees before I
could blink. No need
to be strapped in. I was plastered against the side of the
cockpit. Slowly lost
height as we flew back towards Biggin. Entered circuit at
1000ft, thump as the
wheel came down on downwind leg, slowed as the flaps were
deployed and a nice
curving approach right onto the numbers. Love to do it again
when I had more
idea what to expect.
The local pub for Biggin pilots during the war was The
White Hart at the
village of Brasted. There they preserve behind glass the old
wooden blackout
shutters from the pub. These are signed in chalk by the many
of the pilots who
used the bar. Paddy Barthrop, Peter Townsend, Screwball
Buerling, Neville Duke
etc. An amazing relic to have survived. I have had a drink
there a few times and
although the place has been tarted up it does not need much
imagination to see
it filled with young guys in uniform, drinking and smoking
as though it was
there last day on earth. Which for many, of course, it
was.
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Spitfire flight |
I envy you. Thanks for sharing.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=448525#448525
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| Subject: | Kolb flight over the Ozarks |
A few weeks ago I treated myself and bought a Garmin Virb action camera.
I posted the first video last night on UTube.
Hope you enjoy it.
https://youtu.be/5XNdZRFWqbw
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=448527#448527
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb flight over the Ozarks |
Rex- Nice!
do not archive
Bill Sullivan
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On Sun, 11/1/15, Rex Rodebush <jrrodebush@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb flight over the Ozarks
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Date: Sunday, November 1, 2015, 10:45 AM
"Rex Rodebush" <jrrodebush@gmail.com>
A few weeks ago I treated myself and bought a Garmin Virb
action camera.
I posted the first video last night on UTube.
Hope you enjoy it.
https://youtu.be/5XNdZRFWqbw
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=448527#448527
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| Subject: | Kolb flight over the Ozarks |
Rex R/Gang:
Enjoyed my flight with you, however, 10 minutes at altitude is a long time.
I enjoy take offs and landings, low level flights, and special scenery.
Understand this was your first flight with the Virb. I have no
justification for constructive criticism. You are doing much better than
me. I got a Virb for Christmas last year. Waiting for the right time to
use it for the first time in my MKIII and RZR. My how time flies.
Got home day before yesterday Was on the road 5 months and a day. Need to
get over to the airstrip to see if I still have an airplane in the hanger.
Probably won't make it today. It has been raining since yesterday. I
haven't flown since Sun and Fun last April, except for a flight in Larry
Cottrell's FSII this summer.
john h
hauck's holler, Alabama
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From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rex Rodebush
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 9:46 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb flight over the Ozarks
A few weeks ago I treated myself and bought a Garmin Virb action camera.
I posted the first video last night on UTube.
Hope you enjoy it.
https://youtu.be/5XNdZRFWqbw
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=448527#448527
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb flight over the Ozarks |
I agree John. The next video will be at a lower altitude. I am also looking at
making a mount for the camera right below the nose so the view will be completely
unobstructed.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=448539#448539
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb flight over the Ozarks |
Soon as I get time, and get the MKIII back in the air, I'll get the Virb out
and find a place to mount it.
Larry Cottrell is fortunate that he has unlimited areas to fly with
unobstructed views and big mountains, canyons, and dry lakes. Here in
Alabama there are trees and more trees, plus the absence of mountains and
prominent terrain features.
john h
hauck's holler, Alabama
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From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rex Rodebush
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 11:11 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb flight over the Ozarks
I agree John. The next video will be at a lower altitude. I am also
looking at making a mount for the camera right below the nose so the view
will be completely unobstructed.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=448539#448539
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| Subject: | Re: Spitfire flight |
Wow-- what an experience. Thanks for the flight debriefing.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=448543#448543
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb flight over the Ozarks |
nice video... if I were to make a suggestion,,, if you could move the
camera mount up to provide more of an outside view. and less plane,,, at
least for me it would nice...
Boyd
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