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1. 07:49 AM - Re: Auto Pilot (Denny Baber)
2. 08:39 AM - Re: Auto Pilot (mojavjoe@comcast.net)
3. 11:41 AM - Re: Auto Pilot (Herb)
4. 03:14 PM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 11/22/15 (Tim Hrib)
5. 03:48 PM - Re: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 11/22/15 (kinne russ)
6. 04:39 PM - Re: Auto Pilot (t41pilot)
7. 04:52 PM - Re: Re: Auto Pilot (Herb)
8. 05:07 PM - Re: Auto Pilot (t41pilot)
9. 05:34 PM - Re: Re: Auto Pilot (Herb)
10. 07:24 PM - Re: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 11/22/15 (Richard Girard)
11. 08:22 PM - Re: Re: Auto Pilot (Charlie England)
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| Subject: | Fund Raiser Behind By 22% - Please Contribute Today! |
Dear Listers,
The percentage of members making a Contribution to support the Lists this year
is currently behind last year by at this time by roughly 22%. Please take this
opportunity to show your support for the Matronics Lists and Forums!
Please remember that it is *solely* your direct Contributions that keep these Lists
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Any chance you have the schematic on your computer, just a forward away?
Respectfully,
Dennis Baber
(305) 814-7218
baberdk@gmail.com
Receive gracefully and share; that's all there is.
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ditto:
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From: "Denny Baber" <baberdk@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 10:48:54 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Auto Pilot
Any chance you have the schematic on your computer, just a forward away?=C2
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Respectfully,
Dennis Baber
(305) 814-7218
baberdk@gmail.com
Receive gracefully and share; that's all there is.
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for me?? Not claiming to be an 'spert on the subject...!
The boards come assembled....and it is a matter of adding power and
hooking the serial port up... the serial communication is self
clocking..only 2 lines...called I2L as I recall...search that...Yahoo or
Google.. Each chip on the 9 or 10 Dof board have a unique address and
are monitoring the serial port for their chance to communicate...
I have the parts but have not tried to implement it...would need a
battery to run the robust servo's. and a servo driver board...equally
cheap...since the auto pilot would only operate on trim tabs...it would
be over ridden by the joy stick inputs...and would not do well in very
turbulent air...
No one has tried it that I can find...??
Downloading the software(the routines to communicate with the 10dof
and gather the info are already written but could need some modification
there requiring some knowledge of the C language and ability with an
editor/ assembler... tutorials are on the net and almost all computer
operating systems come with a C compiler and suitable editor..
a project for sure... I have the parts...but then again I have some
other parts that have not been useful at age 72!! :-)
Herb
On 11/23/2015 10:38 AM, mojavjoe@comcast.net wrote:
> ditto:
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> *From: *"Denny Baber" <baberdk@gmail.com>
> *To: *"kolb-list" <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent: *Monday, November 23, 2015 10:48:54 AM
> *Subject: *Re: Kolb-List: Auto Pilot
>
> Any chance you have the schematic on your computer, just a forward away?
>
>
> Respectfully,
> Dennis Baber
> (305) 814-7218
> baberdk@gmail.com <mailto:baberdk@gmail.com>
> Receive gracefully and share; that's all there is.
>
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| Subject: | RE: Kolb-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 11/22/15 |
what's this religious baloney on every posting of the Kolb list? I belong
to confer with other Kolbers. i'm not here to be indoctrinated with religi
ous doctrine..... Tim
> Date: Mon=2C 23 Nov 2015 00:03:11 -0800
> From: kolb-list@matronics.com
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> Subject: Kolb-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 11/22/15
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> 0. 09:39 AM - Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A
Contribution Today! (Matt Dralle)
> 1. 03:40 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 11/21/15 (Theodore Cow
an)
> 2. 05:30 AM - Auto Pilot (Denny Baber)
> 3. 06:53 AM - Re: Auto Pilot (Herb)
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> From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make
A Contribution
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> From: Theodore Cowan <tc1917@bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 11/21/15
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>
> I had same trouble this week on project with dark blue. Crap
>
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> >
> > 1. 04:44 PM - Non-Kolb rant/public service announcement (Richard Pi
ke)
> > 2. 05:02 PM - Re: Non-Kolb rant/public service announcement (chris
davis)
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> > Time: 04:44:59 PM PST US
> > Subject: Kolb-List: Non-Kolb rant/public service announcement
> > From: "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron@charter.net>
> >
> >
> > Do Not Archive.
> >
> > After 4 weeks of incredible frustration=2C I have finally resolved a fr
ustrating
> > painting situation=2C and I thought I would share it with you guys so t
hat you
> never
> > have to go through the same aggravation=2C which revolves around Rustol
eum
> > 2X Ultracover Paint+Primer.
> >
> > Bought an old Honda street/trail bike and decided to restore/repaint it
using
> Rustoleum
> > Metallic blue Metalflake. Assumed that it would be good to use the same
> > brand paint from primer to clear coat. Finally discovered today that wa
s a
> > flawed assumption.
> >
> > Used Rustoleum 2X Paint/Primer for the primer coat. This is the sorries
t thing/stupidest
> > thing I have ever used or done. Painted and repainted and repainted
> > (Never claimed to be smart) all 7 panels of the bike=2C and kept having
the paint
> > wrinkle up on me at various stages of the process.
> >
> > Corresponded back and forth 3 times with Rustoleum service help=2C no h
elp.
> >
> > If you get the paint on just the least bit too wet=2C the Primer/Paint
makes it
> wrinkle=2C
> > even if you give it 3 or 4 days between primer/paint/clear coat.
> >
> > Finally today I laid the color coat right onto the plain Honda 27 year
old factory
> > paint=2C (repaired and reused the front fender which I had not planned
to use)
> > it went on perfectly=2C and clear coated it ten minutes after the final
color
> > coat=3B it turned out perfectly. Turns out the culprit was the Rustoleu
m Primer/Paint.
> > The Metallic Blue/Clear Coat worked flawlessly.
> >
> > So avoid this 2X Paint+Primer like the plague. End of rant. Thank you f
or putting
> > up with this=2C may you avoid similar aggravation. Attachment is the re
ar fender=2C
> > primered it Monday=2C color coat Thursday=2C clear coat today=3B Saturd
ay - immediate
> > wrinkles=2C as you can see. This was the 4th attempt on this part.
> >
> > Do Not Archive.
> >
> > --------
> > Richard Pike
> > Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> > Kingsport=2C TN 3TN0
> >
> > Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=449861#449861
> >
> >
> > Attachments:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1040807_medium_271.jpg
> >
> >
> > ________________________________ Message 2 __________________________
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> >
> >
> > Time: 05:02:52 PM PST US
> > From: chris davis <capedavis@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Non-Kolb rant/public service announcement
> >
> > Richard =2C thank you I am installing a 1920 claw foot tub in my upstai
rs bat
> > h cleaned it up inside and sanded off the old =C2-paint went to theha
rdwa
> > re stote abought a canof rustolium 2x dark red primer ithink i will tak
e it
> > back ! Thanks Chris
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> >
> > On Sat=2C Nov 21=2C 2015 at 7:43 PM=2C Richard Pike<thegreybaron@charte
r.net> w
> > er.net>
> >
> > Do Not Archive.
> >
> > After 4 weeks of incredible frustration=2C I have finally resolved a fr
ustrat
> > ing painting situation=2C and I thought I would share it with you guys
so tha
> > t you never have to go through the same aggravation=2C which revolves a
round
> > Rustoleum 2X Ultracover Paint+Primer.
> >
> > Bought an old Honda street/trail bike and decided to restore/repaint it
usi
> > ng Rustoleum Metallic blue Metalflake. Assumed that it would be good to
use
> > the same brand paint from primer to clear coat. Finally discovered toda
y t
> > hat was a flawed assumption.
> >
> > Used Rustoleum 2X Paint/Primer for the primer coat. This is the sorries
t th
> > ing/stupidest thing I have ever used or done. Painted and repainted and
rep
> > ainted (Never claimed to be smart) all 7 panels of the bike=2C and kept
havin
> > g the paint wrinkle up on me at various stages of the process.
> >
> > Corresponded back and forth 3 times with Rustoleum service help=2C no h
elp.
> >
> > If you get the paint on just the least bit too wet=2C the Primer/Paint
makes
> > it wrinkle=2C even if you give it 3 or 4 days between primer/paint/clea
r coat
> > ..
> >
> > Finally today I laid the color coat right onto the plain Honda 27 year
old
> > factory paint=2C (repaired and reused the front fender which I had not
planne
> > d to use)=C2- it went on perfectly=2C and clear coated it ten minutes
after
> > the final color coat=3B it turned out perfectly. Turns out the culprit
was t
> > he Rustoleum Primer/Paint. The Metallic Blue/Clear Coat worked flawless
ly.
> >
> > So avoid this 2X Paint+Primer like the plague. End of rant. Thank you f
or p
> > utting up with this=2C may you avoid similar aggravation. Attachment is
the r
> > ear fender=2C primered it Monday=2C color coat Thursday=2C clear coat t
oday=3B Satu
> > rday - immediate wrinkles=2C as you can see. This was the 4th attempt o
n this
> > part.
> >
> > Do Not Archive.
> >
> > --------
> > Richard Pike
> > Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> > Kingsport=2C TN 3TN0
> >
> > Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=449861#449861
> >
> >
> > Attachments:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1040807_medium_271.jpg
> >
> >
> > =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle=2C List Admin.
> > S -
> > -
> > =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle=2C List Admin.
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>
> Time: 05:30:51 AM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Auto Pilot
> From: Denny Baber <baberdk@gmail.com>
>
> I thought this is interesting.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQbwz12ykUo&list=TLE-NlfdTSFhsyMjExMj
AxNQ
>
>
> Respectfully=2C
> Dennis Baber
> (305) 814-7218
> baberdk@gmail.com
> Receive gracefully and share=3B that's all there is.
>
> ________________________________ Message 3 ____________________________
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>
> Time: 06:53:37 AM PST US
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Auto Pilot
> From: Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com>
>
> The actual electronics is certainly similar to the 10 Dof
> board...."degrees of Freedon"... it incorporates a solid state 3 axis
> qyro=2CTriple axis magnetometer=2C 3 axis accelerometer..and barometer fo
r
> altitude.... $7 dollars and 47 cents.. on ebay.. Think I paid 9 bucks...
>
> It can be set up to communicate with the Arduino processor board...which
> can be programmed to communicate with a display and to drive the
> servos. The processor board cost 5 bucks or so..mostly from China or
> Hong Kong for the knock off versions.. The original Arduino was
> developed in Italy...and therefore cost more...
>
> the 10 dof is the size of ones thumb...and the Arduino is credit
> card size...
>
> I got the hots for an auto pilot experiment for my current
> Firefly....and bought these two boards along with the Raspberry Pi (35
> bucks) which is also capable of taking the 10 dof board inputs...and
> driving a video display...
>
> Most of the canned software is out there... written in some version
> of C language..
>
> You tube has several videos showing the operation of a makeshift auto
> pilot using these devices...Herb
>
> On 11/22/2015 07:29 AM=2C Denny Baber wrote:
> > I thought this is interesting.
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQbwz12ykUo&list=TLE-NlfdTSFhsyMjEx
MjAxNQ
> >
> >
> > Respectfully=2C
> > Dennis Baber
> > (305) 814-7218 <tel:%28305%29%20814-7218>
> > baberdk@gmail.com <mailto:baberdk@gmail.com>
> > Receive gracefully and share=3B that's all there is.
>
> --
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Kolb-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 11/22/15 |
Tim
Some of our members are ministers/clergy of some sort, and that=92s just
what they do, The rest of us can easily ignore it.
Guess that=92s =91freedom of speech=92
Russ K
> On Nov 23, 2015, at 6:13 PM, Tim Hrib <tim_hrib@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> what's this religious baloney on every posting of the Kolb list? I
belong to confer with other Kolbers. i'm not here to be indoctrinated
with religious doctrine..... Tim
>
>
> > Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 00:03:11 -0800
> > From: kolb-list@matronics.com <mailto:kolb-list@matronics.com>
> > To: kolb-list-digest@matronics.com
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> > Subject: Kolb-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 11/22/15
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> > 0. 09:39 AM - Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A
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> > 1. 03:40 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 11/21/15 (Theodore
Cowan)
> > 2. 05:30 AM - Auto Pilot (Denny Baber)
> > 3. 06:53 AM - Re: Auto Pilot (Herb)
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> > Time: 09:39:29 AM PST US
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> > Subject: Kolb-List: Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please
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> > From: Theodore Cowan <tc1917@bellsouth.net
<mailto:tc1917@bellsouth.net>>
> > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 11/21/15
> >
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> > I had same trouble this week on project with dark blue. Crap
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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> > Sent from my iPhone
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> > > Total Messages Posted Sat 11/21/15: 2
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > > Today's Message Index:
> > > ----------------------
> > >
> > > 1. 04:44 PM - Non-Kolb rant/public service announcement (Richard
Pike)
> > > 2. 05:02 PM - Re: Non-Kolb rant/public service announcement (chris
davis)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________ Message 1
_____________________________________
> > >
> > >
> > > Time: 04:44:59 PM PST US
> > > Subject: Kolb-List: Non-Kolb rant/public service announcement
> > > From: "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron@charter.net
<mailto:thegreybaron@charter.net>>
> > >
> > >
> > > Do Not Archive.
> > >
> > > After 4 weeks of incredible frustration, I have finally resolved a
frustrating
> > > painting situation, and I thought I would share it with you guys
so that you
> > never
> > > have to go through the same aggravation, which revolves around
Rustoleum
> > > 2X Ultracover Paint+Primer.
> > >
> > > Bought an old Honda street/trail bike and decided to
restore/repaint it using
> > Rustoleum
> > > Metallic blue Metalflake. Assumed that it would be good to use the
same
> > > brand paint from primer to clear coat. Finally discovered today
that was a
> > > flawed assumption.
> > >
> > > Used Rustoleum 2X Paint/Primer for the primer coat. This is the
sorriest thing/stupidest
> > > thing I have ever used or done. Painted and repainted and
repainted
> > > (Never claimed to be smart) all 7 panels of the bike, and kept
having the paint
> > > wrinkle up on me at various stages of the process.
> > >
> > > Corresponded back and forth 3 times with Rustoleum service help,
no help.
> > >
> > > If you get the paint on just the least bit too wet, the
Primer/Paint makes it
> > wrinkle,
> > > even if you give it 3 or 4 days between primer/paint/clear coat.
> > >
> > > Finally today I laid the color coat right onto the plain Honda 27
year old factory
> > > paint, (repaired and reused the front fender which I had not
planned to use)
> > > it went on perfectly, and clear coated it ten minutes after the
final color
> > > coat; it turned out perfectly. Turns out the culprit was the
Rustoleum Primer/Paint.
> > > The Metallic Blue/Clear Coat worked flawlessly.
> > >
> > > So avoid this 2X Paint+Primer like the plague. End of rant. Thank
you for putting
> > > up with this, may you avoid similar aggravation. Attachment is the
rear fender,
> > > primered it Monday, color coat Thursday, clear coat today;
Saturday - immediate
> > > wrinkles, as you can see. This was the 4th attempt on this part.
> > >
> > > Do Not Archive.
> > >
> > > --------
> > > Richard Pike
> > > Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> > > Kingsport, TN 3TN0
> > >
> > > Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A>
> > >
> > >
> > > Read this topic online here:
> > >
> > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=449861#449861
<http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=449861#449861>
> > >
> > >
> > > Attachments:
> > >
> > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1040807_medium_271.jpg
<http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1040807_medium_271.jpg>
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________ Message 2
_____________________________________
> > >
> > >
> > > Time: 05:02:52 PM PST US
> > > From: chris davis <capedavis@yahoo.com
<mailto:capedavis@yahoo.com>>
> > > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Non-Kolb rant/public service announcement
> > >
> > > Richard , thank you I am installing a 1920 claw foot tub in my
upstairs bat
> > > h cleaned it up inside and sanded off the old =C2-paint went to
thehardwa
> > > re stote abought a canof rustolium 2x dark red primer ithink i
will take it
> > > back ! Thanks Chris
> > >
> > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> > >
> > > On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 7:43 PM, Richard
Pike<thegreybaron@charter.net <mailto:thegreybaron@charter.net>> w
> > > er.net <http://er.net/>>
> > >
> > > Do Not Archive.
> > >
> > > After 4 weeks of incredible frustration, I have finally resolved a
frustrat
> > > ing painting situation, and I thought I would share it with you
guys so tha
> > > t you never have to go through the same aggravation, which
revolves around
> > > Rustoleum 2X Ultracover Paint+Primer.
> > >
> > > Bought an old Honda street/trail bike and decided to
restore/repaint it usi
> > > ng Rustoleum Metallic blue Metalflake. Assumed that it would be
good to use
> > > the same brand paint from primer to clear coat. Finally discovered
today t
> > > hat was a flawed assumption.
> > >
> > > Used Rustoleum 2X Paint/Primer for the primer coat. This is the
sorriest th
> > > ing/stupidest thing I have ever used or done. Painted and
repainted and rep
> > > ainted (Never claimed to be smart) all 7 panels of the bike, and
kept havin
> > > g the paint wrinkle up on me at various stages of the process.
> > >
> > > Corresponded back and forth 3 times with Rustoleum service help,
no help.
> > >
> > > If you get the paint on just the least bit too wet, the
Primer/Paint makes
> > > it wrinkle, even if you give it 3 or 4 days between
primer/paint/clear coat
> > > ..
> > >
> > > Finally today I laid the color coat right onto the plain Honda 27
year old
> > > factory paint, (repaired and reused the front fender which I had
not planne
> > > d to use)=C2- it went on perfectly, and clear coated it ten
minutes after
> > > the final color coat; it turned out perfectly. Turns out the
culprit was t
> > > he Rustoleum Primer/Paint. The Metallic Blue/Clear Coat worked
flawlessly.
> > >
> > > So avoid this 2X Paint+Primer like the plague. End of rant. Thank
you for p
> > > utting up with this, may you avoid similar aggravation. Attachment
is the r
> > > ear fender, primered it Monday, color coat Thursday, clear coat
today; Satu
> > > rday - immediate wrinkles, as you can see. This was the 4th
attempt on this
> > > part.
> > >
> > > Do Not Archive.
> > >
> > > --------
> > > Richard Pike
> > > Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> > > Kingsport, TN 3TN0
> > >
> > > Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A>
> > >
> > >
> > > Read this topic online here:
> > >
> > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=449861#449861
<http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=449861#449861>
> > >
> > >
> > > Attachments:
> > >
> > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1040807_medium_271.jpg
<http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1040807_medium_271.jpg>
> > >
> > >
> > > =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
> > > S -
> > > -
> > > =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________ Message 2
_____________________________________
> >
> >
> > Time: 05:30:51 AM PST US
> > Subject: Kolb-List: Auto Pilot
> > From: Denny Baber <baberdk@gmail.com <mailto:baberdk@gmail.com>>
> >
> > I thought this is interesting.
> >
> >
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQbwz12ykUo&list=TLE-NlfdTSFhsyMjExMjA
xNQ
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQbwz12ykUo&list=TLE-NlfdTSFhsyMjExMj
AxNQ>
> >
> >
> > Respectfully,
> > Dennis Baber
> > (305) 814-7218
> > baberdk@gmail.com <mailto:baberdk@gmail.com>
> > Receive gracefully and share; that's all there is.
> >
> > ________________________________ Message 3
_____________________________________
> >
> >
> > Time: 06:53:37 AM PST US
> > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Auto Pilot
> > From: Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com <mailto:Herbgh@nctc.com>>
> >
> > The actual electronics is certainly similar to the 10 Dof
> > board...."degrees of Freedon"... it incorporates a solid state 3
axis
> > qyro,Triple axis magnetometer, 3 axis accelerometer..and barometer
for
> > altitude.... $7 dollars and 47 cents.. on ebay.. Think I paid 9
bucks...
> >
> > It can be set up to communicate with the Arduino processor
board...which
> > can be programmed to communicate with a display and to drive the
> > servos. The processor board cost 5 bucks or so..mostly from China or
> > Hong Kong for the knock off versions.. The original Arduino was
> > developed in Italy...and therefore cost more...
> >
> > the 10 dof is the size of ones thumb...and the Arduino is credit
> > card size...
> >
> > I got the hots for an auto pilot experiment for my current
> > Firefly....and bought these two boards along with the Raspberry Pi
(35
> > bucks) which is also capable of taking the 10 dof board inputs...and
> > driving a video display...
> >
> > Most of the canned software is out there... written in some version
> > of C language..
> >
> > You tube has several videos showing the operation of a makeshift
auto
> > pilot using these devices...Herb
> >
> > On 11/22/2015 07:29 AM, Denny Baber wrote:
> > > I thought this is interesting.
> > >
> > >
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQbwz12ykUo&list=TLE-NlfdTSFhsyMjExMjA
xNQ
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQbwz12ykUo&list=TLE-NlfdTSFhsyMjExMj
AxNQ>
> > >
> > >
> > > Respectfully,
> > > Dennis Baber
> > > (305) 814-7218 <tel:%28305%29%20814-7218>
> > > baberdk@gmail.com <mailto:baberdk@gmail.com>
<mailto:baberdk@gmail.com <mailto:baberdk@gmail.com>>
> > > Receive gracefully and share; that's all there is.
> >
> > --
> > Signature text; Add catchy phrase here..
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Thought of using an Arduino and heavy duty RC servo to create an electric elevator
trim for the firefly but never did it. It would be a simple matter though
with no gyro required. A pot or momentary switch could be used as a control in
the cockpit somewhere with the servo contained in the elevator hooked to a trim
tab. Servo sketches are readily available. The entire Arduino board would
not be necessary once your software routine was debugged, just the microprocessor,
regulated 5 volt power, and power transistor/FET to source the current
needed by the servo.
--------
Gregg Kaat
2011 Firefly
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a 555 timer circuit might be the simplest way to go...pot on the panel ,
timer circuit...and three wires to the servo.
Where is Jack Hart when we need him??? :-) Herb
On 11/23/2015 06:39 PM, t41pilot wrote:
>
> Thought of using an Arduino and heavy duty RC servo to create an electric elevator
trim for the firefly but never did it. It would be a simple matter though
with no gyro required. A pot or momentary switch could be used as a control
in the cockpit somewhere with the servo contained in the elevator hooked to a
trim tab. Servo sketches are readily available. The entire Arduino board would
not be necessary once your software routine was debugged, just the microprocessor,
regulated 5 volt power, and power transistor/FET to source the current
needed by the servo.
>
> --------
> Gregg Kaat
> 2011 Firefly
>
>
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Needed the microprocessor to have enough outputs to drive my cool led bargraph
to show the trim position :)
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Gregg Kaat
2011 Firefly
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Bells and whistles!! :-)
On 11/23/2015 07:07 PM, t41pilot wrote:
>
> Needed the microprocessor to have enough outputs to drive my cool led bargraph
to show the trim position :)
>
> --------
> Gregg Kaat
> 2011 Firefly
>
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Kolb-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 11/22/15 |
Tim, What someone puts on their posts as a tag line or sign off is easy
enough to ignore if it's a bother. How about we just keep to Kolb issues in
our comments and discussions and let tag lines just take care of themselves
.
Rick Girard
do not archive
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 5:46 PM, kinne russ <russk50@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tim
> Some of our members are ministers/clergy of some sort, and that=99s
just
> what they do, The rest of us can easily ignore it.
> Guess that=99s =98freedom of speech=99
> Russ K
>
> On Nov 23, 2015, at 6:13 PM, Tim Hrib <tim_hrib@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> what's this religious baloney on every posting of the Kolb list? I
> belong to confer with other Kolbers. i'm not here to be indoctrinated wit
h
> religious doctrine..... Tim
>
>
> > Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 00:03:11 -0800
> > From: kolb-list@matronics.com
> > To: kolb-list-digest@matronics.com
> > Subject: Kolb-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 11/22/15
> >
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> >
> > 0. 09:39 AM - Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A
> Contribution Today! (Matt Dralle)
> > 1. 03:40 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 11/21/15 (Theodore Cowan)
> > 2. 05:30 AM - Auto Pilot (Denny Baber)
> > 3. 06:53 AM - Re: Auto Pilot (Herb)
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________ Message 0
> _____________________________________
> >
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> > Time: 09:39:29 AM PST US
> > From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Kolb-List: Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Mak
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> > From: Theodore Cowan <tc1917@bellsouth.net>
> > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 11/21/15
> >
> >
> > I had same trouble this week on project with dark blue. Crap
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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> >
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> > > On Nov 22, 2015, at 2:02 AM, Kolb-List Digest Server <
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> > > 1. 04:44 PM - Non-Kolb rant/public service announcement (Richard Pike
)
> > > 2. 05:02 PM - Re: Non-Kolb rant/public service announcement (chris
> davis)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________ Message 1
> _____________________________________
> > >
> > >
> > > Time: 04:44:59 PM PST US
> > > Subject: Kolb-List: Non-Kolb rant/public service announcement
> > > From: "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron@charter.net>
> > >
> > >
> > > Do Not Archive.
> > >
> > > After 4 weeks of incredible frustration, I have finally resolved a
> frustrating
> > > painting situation, and I thought I would share it with you guys so
> that you
> > never
> > > have to go through the same aggravation, which revolves around
> Rustoleum
> > > 2X Ultracover Paint+Primer.
> > >
> > > Bought an old Honda street/trail bike and decided to restore/repaint
> it using
> > Rustoleum
> > > Metallic blue Metalflake. Assumed that it would be good to use the sa
me
> > > brand paint from primer to clear coat. Finally discovered today that
> was a
> > > flawed assumption.
> > >
> > > Used Rustoleum 2X Paint/Primer for the primer coat. This is the
> sorriest thing/stupidest
> > > thing I have ever used or done. Painted and repainted and repainted
> > > (Never claimed to be smart) all 7 panels of the bike, and kept having
> the paint
> > > wrinkle up on me at various stages of the process.
> > >
> > > Corresponded back and forth 3 times with Rustoleum service help, no
> help.
> > >
> > > If you get the paint on just the least bit too wet, the Primer/Paint
> makes it
> > wrinkle,
> > > even if you give it 3 or 4 days between primer/paint/clear coat.
> > >
> > > Finally today I laid the color coat right onto the plain Honda 27 yea
r
> old factory
> > > paint, (repaired and reused the front fender which I had not planned
> to use)
> > > it went on perfectly, and clear coated it ten minutes after the final
> color
> > > coat; it turned out perfectly. Turns out the culprit was the Rustoleu
m
> Primer/Paint.
> > > The Metallic Blue/Clear Coat worked flawlessly.
> > >
> > > So avoid this 2X Paint+Primer like the plague. End of rant. Thank you
> for putting
> > > up with this, may you avoid similar aggravation. Attachment is the
> rear fender,
> > > primered it Monday, color coat Thursday, clear coat today; Saturday -
> immediate
> > > wrinkles, as you can see. This was the 4th attempt on this part.
> > >
> > > Do Not Archive.
> > >
> > > --------
> > > Richard Pike
> > > Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> > > Kingsport, TN 3TN0
> > >
> > > Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
> > >
> > >
> > > Read this topic online here:
> > >
> > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=449861#449861
> > >
> > >
> > > Attachments:
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> > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1040807_medium_271.jpg
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________ Message 2
> _____________________________________
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> > >
> > > Time: 05:02:52 PM PST US
> > > From: chris davis <capedavis@yahoo.com>
> > > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Non-Kolb rant/public service announcement
> > >
> > > Richard , thank you I am installing a 1920 claw foot tub in my
> upstairs bat
> > > h cleaned it up inside and sanded off the old =C2-paint went to
> thehardwa
> > > re stote abought a canof rustolium 2x dark red primer ithink i will
> take it
> > > back ! Thanks Chris
> > >
> > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> > >
> > > On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 7:43 PM, Richard Pike<thegreybaron@charter.ne
t>
> w
> > > er.net>
> > >
> > > Do Not Archive.
> > >
> > > After 4 weeks of incredible frustration, I have finally resolved a
> frustrat
> > > ing painting situation, and I thought I would share it with you guys
> so tha
> > > t you never have to go through the same aggravation, which revolves
> around
> > > Rustoleum 2X Ultracover Paint+Primer.
> > >
> > > Bought an old Honda street/trail bike and decided to restore/repaint
> it usi
> > > ng Rustoleum Metallic blue Metalflake. Assumed that it would be good
> to use
> > > the same brand paint from primer to clear coat. Finally discovered
> today t
> > > hat was a flawed assumption.
> > >
> > > Used Rustoleum 2X Paint/Primer for the primer coat. This is the
> sorriest th
> > > ing/stupidest thing I have ever used or done. Painted and repainted
> and rep
> > > ainted (Never claimed to be smart) all 7 panels of the bike, and kept
> havin
> > > g the paint wrinkle up on me at various stages of the process.
> > >
> > > Corresponded back and forth 3 times with Rustoleum service help, no
> help.
> > >
> > > If you get the paint on just the least bit too wet, the Primer/Paint
> makes
> > > it wrinkle, even if you give it 3 or 4 days between primer/paint/clea
r
> coat
> > > ..
> > >
> > > Finally today I laid the color coat right onto the plain Honda 27 yea
r
> old
> > > factory paint, (repaired and reused the front fender which I had not
> planne
> > > d to use)=C2- it went on perfectly, and clear coated it ten minutes
> after
> > > the final color coat; it turned out perfectly. Turns out the culprit
> was t
> > > he Rustoleum Primer/Paint. The Metallic Blue/Clear Coat worked
> flawlessly.
> > >
> > > So avoid this 2X Paint+Primer like the plague. End of rant. Thank you
> for p
> > > utting up with this, may you avoid similar aggravation. Attachment is
> the r
> > > ear fender, primered it Monday, color coat Thursday, clear coat today
;
> Satu
> > > rday - immediate wrinkles, as you can see. This was the 4th attempt o
n
> this
> > > part.
> > >
> > > Do Not Archive.
> > >
> > > --------
> > > Richard Pike
> > > Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> > > Kingsport, TN 3TN0
> > >
> > > Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
> > >
> > >
> > > Read this topic online here:
> > >
> > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=449861#449861
> > >
> > >
> > > Attachments:
> > >
> > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1040807_medium_271.jpg
> > >
> > >
> > > =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
> > > S -
> > > -
> > > =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________ Message 2
> _____________________________________
> >
> >
> > Time: 05:30:51 AM PST US
> > Subject: Kolb-List: Auto Pilot
> > From: Denny Baber <baberdk@gmail.com>
> >
> > I thought this is interesting.
> >
> >
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQbwz12ykUo&list=TLE-NlfdTSFhsyMjExMj
AxNQ
> >
> >
> > Respectfully,
> > Dennis Baber
> > (305) 814-7218
> > baberdk@gmail.com
> > Receive gracefully and share; that's all there is.
> >
> > ________________________________ Message 3
> _____________________________________
> >
> >
> > Time: 06:53:37 AM PST US
> > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Auto Pilot
> > From: Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com>
> >
> > The actual electronics is certainly similar to the 10 Dof
> > board...."degrees of Freedon"... it incorporates a solid state 3 axis
> > qyro,Triple axis magnetometer, 3 axis accelerometer..and barometer for
> > altitude.... $7 dollars and 47 cents.. on ebay.. Think I paid 9 bucks..
.
> >
> > It can be set up to communicate with the Arduino processor board...whic
h
>
> > can be programmed to communicate with a display and to drive the
> > servos. The processor board cost 5 bucks or so..mostly from China or
> > Hong Kong for the knock off versions.. The original Arduino was
> > developed in Italy...and therefore cost more...
> >
> > the 10 dof is the size of ones thumb...and the Arduino is credit
> > card size...
> >
> > I got the hots for an auto pilot experiment for my current
> > Firefly....and bought these two boards along with the Raspberry Pi (35
> > bucks) which is also capable of taking the 10 dof board inputs...and
> > driving a video display...
> >
> > Most of the canned software is out there... written in some version
> > of C language..
> >
> > You tube has several videos showing the operation of a makeshift auto
> > pilot using these devices...Herb
> >
> > On 11/22/2015 07:29 AM, Denny Baber wrote:
> > > I thought this is interesting.
> > >
> > >
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQbwz12ykUo&list=TLE-NlfdTSFhsyMjExMj
AxNQ
> > >
> > >
> > > Respectfully,
> > > Dennis Baber
> > > (305) 814-7218 <tel:%28305%29%20814-7218>
> > > baberdk@gmail.com <mailto:baberdk@gmail.com <baberdk@gmail.com>>
> > > Receive gracefully and share; that's all there is.
> >
> > --
> > Signature text; Add catchy phrase here..
> >
> >
> > =====================
> >=====================
> >====================
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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The thread seems to have forked to using a servo as a simple trim tab
controller. On that subject...
The servos have feedback pots (sorry; potentiometers) that can drive an
LED ladder display. They have to have them for feedback to the
controller. For a controller,
http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__18309__Hobbyking_LED_Servo_Tester.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt46maA-MRc
This one has a display, but realistically, the knob should be display
enough.
Charlie
Two quotes:
Simplicate and add lightness
Better is the enemy of good enough
On 11/23/2015 7:07 PM, t41pilot wrote:
>
> Needed the microprocessor to have enough outputs to drive my cool led bargraph
to show the trim position :)
>
> --------
> Gregg Kaat
> 2011 Firefly
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=450074#450074
>
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