---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 12/31/15: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:50 AM - Re: tires (Stuart Harner) 2. 06:25 AM - Re: tires (Watkinsdw) 3. 07:55 AM - Fw: Fw: Matt Dralle (list admin) (Charlie England) 4. 08:02 AM - Re: Re: tires (B Young) 5. 09:18 AM - Re: tires (Leland.Lam) 6. 09:41 AM - Azusa rims... (Nick Cassara) 7. 10:35 AM - q (kinne russ) 8. 10:46 AM - Re: Azusa rims... (Larry Cottrell) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:50:52 AM PST US From: "Stuart Harner" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: tires Larry, One would think that screws in a tire are something to be avoided, right? J Anyway, you might want to try some tire bead sealer. I have never used it but have cleaned it off of rims where it had been applied and it seemed to stick to the rim quite tightly. Although it is intended as a sealer and not a glue, it has some glue like qualities and may just add enough friction between the tire and rim to solve your problem without putting holes in the rims. Bead sealer should be available at your local automotive store or easily found online. BTW, a 800 X 6 tube for a garden tractor is about $20. Don=99t know if they will work with your rims, but might be worth checking out. Good Luck, Stuart From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Cottrell Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 9:02 PM Subject: Kolb-List: tires Well I have finally had enough of flat tires due to the tire spinning against the tube. I am using 800x6 tires on my Firestar. It would be nice to be able to run them with low tire pressure to absorb some of the rough country that I sometime land in. The problem of course is the tire spins and severs the valve stem. Not sure if you have priced tubes lately but they are about $56. each. I was toying with the idea of going flying, but discovered that I had a flat- again. (last one was two years ago, but its still too darned soon.) I was lucky in that I had a spare tube. I had to first modify my floor jack so that I could even lift the plane. I replaced the round cup with a 1.5 X 1.5 X10 inch piece of square tubing. I should have already done that, so I couldn't complain too much. This way I can stick the end of the axle inside the tubing and securely jack up the plane. When I took it apart it was as I had guessed, the valve stem was ripped off the tube. I think I have the Azusa rims, but the hole for the valve stem seems to be in the wrong place and one cannot access the valve stem while it is on the plane, since it requires that you use some sort of a tool to bend the 90 degree stem to a point that you can get to it with an air hose. The entire thing is guaranteed to make a Saint cranky. The only "light" part of the tire change occurred as I was screwing the two halves of the rims together. I was concerned that I might pinch the tube against the halves. I got the tire mounted and using a box end wrench to twist the valve stem so that I could put some air in it. I was bracing it against my vise to apply enough pressure. I put some air in it and when I stopped I could hear it hissing. I moved the tire and it quit? I put some more air in it and again it started hissing. I stopped and stood the tire up, and it quit again. In confusion I turned it up and found that I also had a can of WD 40 on the other side that was a lot emptier than when I started. The bench won't rust anyway. I called John Hauck to see what he knew about using screws to secure the tire to the rim. With a bit of internet search he found this site. http://www.jegs.com/p/JEGS-Performance-Products/JEGS-Wheel-Rim-to-Tire-Sc rew-Kit/756883/10002/-1 I ordered them. Not sure if anyone else could benefit from my experience or not, but there isn't anything else going on. I intend to put 6 in each side of the rims, and run about 4 lbs of air. John checked to see if he could find similar type screws, and the best he could do was about $1.29 each for stainless steel screws, so the price from JEGS was not all that bad. Have a great and safe New Year, Larry -- The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant. If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:25:40 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: tires From: "Watkinsdw" Hi, Larry, For what it's worth, I decided to switch to tubeless. I called Matco, who made my wheels, and ordered a "Tubeless kit." It consists of a large "O" ring that gets squeezed between the halves when you torque the bolts down, and of course, a new valve stem. Works great on my Kolb. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=451558#451558 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:55:04 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Fwd: Fwd: Matt Dralle (list admin) From: Charlie England Retrying to a single list each time; first attempt at multiple lists seems to have failed. -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Matt Dralle (list admin) From: Charlie England , kolb-list@matronics.com Just saw a post on the VAF forum that Matt had a stroke yesterday. The post quoted his facebook page: /Matt Update: He is responding to comments being made by squeezing Katie's hand and he was able to answer his age by using his one hand. All early indicators are that he is doing ok. Katie sends her thanks for the prayers and that they are definitely helping. / Please keep him in your thoughts and prayers, and remember that he won't be able to deal with list maintenance issues for some time. I'm trying to send this to the RV, aeroelectric, and kolb lists. If you're a member of additional lists, it might be good to pass it on. Charlie ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:02:22 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: tires From: B Young The o ring should not be squeezed between the halves... Put the oring on 1 side, bolt the halves together,, then slide the o ring into the V between the halves... It seals better if you put some silicone grease on the o ring Boyd On Dec 31, 2015 7:28 AM, "Watkinsdw" wrote: > > Hi, Larry, > For what it's worth, I decided to switch to tubeless. I called Matco, who > made my wheels, and ordered a "Tubeless kit." It consists of a large "O" > ring that gets squeezed between the halves when you torque the bolts down, > and of course, a new valve stem. Works great on my Kolb. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=451558#451558 > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:18:44 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: tires From: "Leland.Lam" I grew up riding Dirt Bikes and to solve the problem of tires tearing off the valve stem they use Rim Locks. Most Dirt Bikes run about 12-16psi and a RIM lock device is the most economical way to keep the 55hp motors from shredding the inner tube. I doubt if you can find rim locks for our Kolb sized rims but these can be fabricated easily. Another solution might be the use of " TIRE BALLS" and no inner tube at all. They make specific sized balls for almost any sized tire. These are used often in long cross country off road races where the terrain is very rugged. I see guys use tennis balls and all kinds of crazy things that hold up to extreme abuse. A quick search on line and I think you will get many ideas. Down side is these both add a few pounds to your aircraft. Good Luck -------- Kolb Mark III Classic Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=451578#451578 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/tireballs_179.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/rim_lock_213.jpg ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:41:41 AM PST US From: Nick Cassara Subject: Kolb-List: Azusa rims... Kolbers, I ordered an extra pair of Azusa rims to mount my 8.50 x 6 Aero Classic LSA/Ultralight Dressler tires on and the valve stems where no where close to the hole on the Azuse split rims. I made new holes in the rims in the correct position for the tubes and plugged the old holes with Lab Metal. With the stems in the correct position hopefully the tubes wont slip, but time will tell. Enjoy, Nick Cassara Palmer, Alaska Kolb Kolbra #1,prototype ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:35:43 AM PST US From: kinne russ Subject: Kolb-List: q List Any Kolbers in Richardson (Dallas) TX? Pls reply. Thanx Russ K ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:46:20 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Azusa rims... From: Larry Cottrell Yeah, I plan to modify my rims as well. If the stems pointed where they were supposed to be, one could even check the air pressure every now and then. I think I will try the screws, seems to me to be the most simple fix. I have done the tubeless route and I had a flat every time I turned around. I think I will pass on the glue as well. Larry On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Nick Cassara wrote: > > Kolbers, > > I ordered an extra pair of Azusa rims to mount my 8.50 x 6 Aero Classic > LSA/Ultralight Dressler tires on and the valve stems where no where close > to the hole on the Azuse split rims. I made new holes in the rims in the > correct position for the tubes and plugged the old holes with Lab Metal. > With the stems in the correct position hopefully the tubes won=99t slip, but > time will tell. > > Enjoy, > > Nick Cassara > Palmer, Alaska > > Kolb Kolbra #1,prototype > =========== =========== =========== =========== =========== > > -- *The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant.* *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.