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1. 08:10 AM - Re: the price is right (west1m)
2. 08:34 AM - Re: Re: the price is right (Herb)
3. 09:22 AM - Re: the price is right (w0odi)
4. 09:47 AM - Re: Re: the price is right (Herb)
5. 10:05 AM - Re: the price is right (w0odi)
6. 10:49 AM - Re: the price is right (west1m)
7. 12:58 PM - Re: Re: the price is right (Herb)
8. 02:58 PM - Re: Aileron trim (Rex Rodebush)
9. 05:34 PM - Re: Re: Aileron trim (John Hauck)
10. 06:49 PM - Re: Re: Aileron trim (Charlie England)
11. 08:13 PM - Re: the price is right (Richard Pike)
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Subject: | Re: the price is right |
Both GREAT deals. But for no more than I used mine last year I would let my Firefly
go for $5K and throw in a trailer to get it home. For a few more bucks I
would throw in a 503 with a warp drive prop.
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Hastings, MN
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Subject: | Re: the price is right |
Mercy!! The bottom is falling out of the Ultra Lite business!!
When the Ohio Firefly did no sell at 8k...I became worried...nearly
three hundred hours on the engine however..
If your bird can sit where it is til spring...send some details
and pics... also of the 503 and prop... Then again...if you have it in
the spring...nothing wrong with cranking the price up a bit...:-)
I buy and fix up boats and motors and nothing sold last spring!!!
Barn is full!! Worried Herb
On 01/05/2016 10:10 AM, west1m wrote:
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> Both GREAT deals. But for no more than I used mine last year I would let my Firefly
go for $5K and throw in a trailer to get it home. For a few more bucks
I would throw in a 503 with a warp drive prop.
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Subject: | Re: the price is right |
west1m wrote:
> Both GREAT deals. But for no more than I used mine last year I would let my Firefly
go for $5K and throw in a trailer to get it home. For a few more bucks
I would throw in a 503 with a warp drive prop. But it is a long way from brand
new...
Can you send me some pics of your Kolb Herb?
woodyz1957@gmail.com
thanks
Larry
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Subject: | Re: the price is right |
They are on Craigs list Nashville... But...that 5k bird in Minnesota
sounds fantastically good!!! New fabric and paint can be done for less
than 1k....and recall; the aluminum rivets for holding the fabric to the
ribs are about 16 bucks for 500 on Ebay...last spring anyway.... Herb
ps anyone needing pics of the tries , tubes and rims...I have them ...
1.5 meg photos but did not want to attach them and gain the ire of Bro.
Pike!! :-) and too lazy to reduce them...!
Email prvately so we do not grab too much band width...
On 01/05/2016 11:21 AM, w0odi wrote:
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> west1m wrote:
>> Both GREAT deals. But for no more than I used mine last year I would let my
Firefly go for $5K and throw in a trailer to get it home. For a few more bucks
I would throw in a 503 with a warp drive prop. But it is a long way from brand
new...
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> Can you send me some pics of your Kolb Herb?
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> woodyz1957@gmail.com
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> thanks
> Larry
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Subject: | Re: the price is right |
Herbgh(at)nctc.com wrote:
> They are on Craigs list Nashville... But...that 5k bird in Minnesota
> sounds fantastically good!!! New fabric and paint can be done for less
> than 1k....and recall; the aluminum rivets for holding the fabric to the
> ribs are about 16 bucks for 500 on Ebay...last spring anyway.... Herb
>
> ps anyone needing pics of the tries , tubes and rims...I have them ...
> 1.5 meg photos but did not want to attach them and gain the ire of Bro.
> Pike!! :-) and too lazy to reduce them...!
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> Email prvately so we do not grab too much band width...
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> On 01/05/2016 11:21 AM, w0odi wrote:
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> > Sorry Herb I guess I need to read things closer... I will see if I can find
that 5k firefly on here think it was westm1 who posted it??
> > Larry
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> > west1m wrote:
> > > Both GREAT deals. But for no more than I used mine last year I would let
my Firefly go for $5K and throw in a trailer to get it home. For a few more bucks
I would throw in a 503 with a warp drive prop. But it is a long way from brand
new...
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> > Can you send me some pics of your Kolb Herb?
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> > woodyz1957@gmail.com
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Subject: | Re: the price is right |
I am not really trying to sell it, it just isn't getting much use. I dumped a ton
of money into it in the last year and a half. EIS, Warp Drive prop (two blade),
Black max brakes and wheels and so on. I had neck surgery and did not want
to pull the rope so I installed an electric starter. Flys great, but sits an
hour away and I don't get out there enough. Here is a good example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP9irkNoMTI
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West1m
Hastings, MN
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Subject: | Re: the price is right |
Yep!! Brakes, elect start should bring the price up to 5500 at
least....:-) Nice video.....I notice that all turtles look alike to
me...!! Herb
On 01/05/2016 12:49 PM, west1m wrote:
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> I am not really trying to sell it, it just isn't getting much use. I dumped a
ton of money into it in the last year and a half. EIS, Warp Drive prop (two blade),
Black max brakes and wheels and so on. I had neck surgery and did not want
to pull the rope so I installed an electric starter. Flys great, but sits
an hour away and I don't get out there enough. Here is a good example.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP9irkNoMTI
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> Hastings, MN
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Subject: | Re: Aileron trim |
Thanks to all who responded, on and off line. I'm going to try a flap adjustment
first and then aileron trim if the flap trim is not successful. If that causes
more problems I'll probably just live with it. Solo the required stick pressure
is just a few ounces by my estimation. With a 220# passenger it is much
more noticeable. I will keep the washer/wing angle as a possibility for the
future. I'll post the results when known.
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Subject: | Re: Aileron trim |
Rex/Gang:
I use a small piece of bungee cord from the aileron torque tube to the
control stick. Each end is looped around the tube and secured with a small
1/4" wide hose clamp.
Will work on dual controls and single center stick. On a single center
stick find a place to secure the stationary end of the bungee.
Adjustment is infinite. When the moving end on the stick is at its lowest
point there is neutral forced trim. Moving the loop up the stick increases
trim force.
I have used this system on my MKIII for 23 years. In fact, I recently
changed out the original piece of bungee. My bungee looks like it may be
1/2" in diameter.
This is a simple way to get the job done effectively without drill holes,
popping rivets, hanging sheet metal and Lexan on an aileron, changing out
wing mounts, etc.
Be glad to post photos next time I go over to Gantt International Airport,
when the temps get above freezing. ;-)
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rex Rodebush
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 4:58 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Aileron trim
Thanks to all who responded, on and off line. I'm going to try a flap
adjustment first and then aileron trim if the flap trim is not successful.
If that causes more problems I'll probably just live with it. Solo the
required stick pressure is just a few ounces by my estimation. With a 220#
passenger it is much more noticeable. I will keep the washer/wing angle as
a possibility for the future. I'll post the results when known.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=451779#451779
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Subject: | Re: Aileron trim |
I like John's method. I've never owned/flown a Kolb, but the 'standard'
aileron trim for the 2 seat RV-x's is very similar to John's method. The
RV's use a lever that has its pivot on the control stick, and springs
from the lever to convenient solid points on either side of the stick.
moving the lever increases tension on one spring; decreases it on the
other. This supplies a bias to the stick just like what John is
describing. Very effective on the RVs, it's cheap, and weighs almost
nothing. In flight, you can't tell it's there, and RV's have pretty
light controls.
Charlie
On 1/5/2016 7:34 PM, John Hauck wrote:
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> Rex/Gang:
>
> I use a small piece of bungee cord from the aileron torque tube to the
> control stick. Each end is looped around the tube and secured with a small
> 1/4" wide hose clamp.
>
> Will work on dual controls and single center stick. On a single center
> stick find a place to secure the stationary end of the bungee.
>
> Adjustment is infinite. When the moving end on the stick is at its lowest
> point there is neutral forced trim. Moving the loop up the stick increases
> trim force.
>
> I have used this system on my MKIII for 23 years. In fact, I recently
> changed out the original piece of bungee. My bungee looks like it may be
> 1/2" in diameter.
>
> This is a simple way to get the job done effectively without drill holes,
> popping rivets, hanging sheet metal and Lexan on an aileron, changing out
> wing mounts, etc.
>
> Be glad to post photos next time I go over to Gantt International Airport,
> when the temps get above freezing. ;-)
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rex Rodebush
> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 4:58 PM
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Aileron trim
>
>
> Thanks to all who responded, on and off line. I'm going to try a flap
> adjustment first and then aileron trim if the flap trim is not successful.
> If that causes more problems I'll probably just live with it. Solo the
> required stick pressure is just a few ounces by my estimation. With a 220#
> passenger it is much more noticeable. I will keep the washer/wing angle as
> a possibility for the future. I'll post the results when known.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=451779#451779
>
>
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Subject: | Re: the price is right |
[quote="Herbgh(at)nctc.com"]
ps anyone needing pics of the tries , tubes and rims...I have them ...
1.5 meg photos but did not want to attach them and gain the ire of Bro.
Pike!! :-) and too lazy to reduce them...!
[quote]
Proverbs 26:15? [Laughing]
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
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