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1. 03:59 AM - Re: Re: Extending instrument panel (Patrick Ladd)
2. 04:13 AM - Re: Extending instrument panel (Mcabbage)
3. 04:13 AM - Re: Extending instrument panel (Mcabbage)
4. 04:44 AM - Re: Extending instrument panel (olendorf)
5. 07:00 AM - Re: Extending instrument panel (Richard Pike)
6. 07:17 AM - Re: Extending instrument panel (Richard Pike)
7. 08:19 AM - Re: Rotax 503 - 300 Hour Rebuild - Advice (miyer2u)
8. 08:26 AM - Re: Re: Extending instrument panel (Rick Neilsen)
9. 04:03 PM - Re: Extending instrument panel (Mcabbage)
10. 04:17 PM - Re: Re: Extending instrument panel (Larry Cottrell)
11. 04:23 PM - Re: Extending instrument panel (Mcabbage)
12. 04:31 PM - Re: Re: Extending instrument panel (Bill Berle)
13. 06:17 PM - Re: Re: Extending instrument panel (Larry Cottrell)
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| Subject: | Re: Extending instrument panel |
<<The only thing on my cockpit that I need to do anything with is adjust
the altimeter. I do that on the ground>>
Thats interesting Larry. Do you not set your altimeter to read zero when
you land at an away field? Normally we set QFE Baro pressure at your
home field if just messing about locally. When approaching another field
the local pressure will be passed to you along with wind speed and
direction, circuit direction, circuit height etc. So if you are
supposed to join the circuit at 1000 ft then that is the height which
your altimeter shows.
Pat
From: Larry Cottrell
Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 5:55 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Extending instrument panel
Looking at the inside shot of the pictures you posted, there's not much
room between the pilot's shins and the bottom edge of the extension.
I am not sure how big you are, but let me tell you how I get into my
plane. I am 6 feet- 235 lbs. I sit backwards on my seat, lift my left
leg over the stick, and down onto the rudder pedals. I of course reverse
this process to get out of the plane. My plane has longer gear legs, so
I had to change the method of entering the cockpit. With the smaller
gear legs, One can lift up the wind screen- stick the left leg in, then
put your butt on the seat. Much like what you do to get into a sports
car. These are only ways to get in that I have found. Smaller younger
pilots will be able to do things that I probably cannot.
The only thing on my cockpit that I need to do anything with is adjust
the altimeter. I do that on the ground. The rest of the controls that I
need- tank selection- fuel pump, strobe, ignition switch are all located
in various spots that are within reach.
Primarily what I am saying is that you can position every thing that you
need in spots that allow you to reach them while seated and flying. It
just takes some thinking on your part. However you are the one that will
be flying it, your choice, but give it some serious thought. I have a
small center console in front of the stick that holds my radio, all my
switches- plug ins for the intercom. HAC man system on the left side by
the throttle, fuel selector switches on the gusset to the left of my
seat. Take a poll and see how many have moved their console out.
Larry
Larry
On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 9:06 PM, George Alexander <gtalexander@att.net>
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Mcabbage wrote:
> I would like to extend my fs2 Inst. panel
>
> .S N I P .
>
> Mike
Being one who must remain conscious of leg room, I would be careful
how deep you make your extension and/or the top to bottom measurement.
Too much in either of these dimensions will cut down that leg room.
Looking at the inside shot of the pictures you posted, there's not much
room between the pilot's shins and the bottom edge of the extension.
As Beauford would say.... "Worth what you paid fer it.."
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Thanks guys yes proper planning! I am 6 feet 190 lbs size 12 sneakers! So I agree
not much room down there for sure!
Mike
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Thanks guys yes proper planning! I am 6 feet 190 lbs size 12 sneakers! So I agree
not much room down there for sure!
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: Extending instrument panel |
This is how I did it. The panel is attached to a rubber hose at the bottom. The
top rests against the nose cone. This allows the nose cone off by itself. Not
attached to the panel at all. Yes you lose a little shin room. Just be sure
to account for that. I rounded off the panel at the bottom so I didn't cut my
legs off in a crash.
Two things I would do differently next time around. The compass needs to be vertical.
The panel should be painted black.
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| Subject: | Re: Extending instrument panel |
lcottrell wrote:
> Looking at the inside shot of the pictures you posted, there's not much room
between the pilot's shins and the bottom edge of the extension.
>
> The only thing on my cockpit that I need to do anything with is adjust the altimeter.
I do that on the ground. The rest of the controls that I need- tank selection-
fuel pump, strobe, ignition switch are all located in various spots
that are within reach.
>
> Primarily what I am saying is that you can position every thing that you need
in spots that allow you to reach them while seated and flying. It just takes
some thinking on your part. However you are the one that will be flying it, your
choice, but give it some serious thought. I have a small center console in
front of the stick that holds my radio, all my switches- plug ins for the intercom.
HAC man system on the left side by the throttle, fuel selector switches
on the gusset to the left of my seat. Take a poll and see how many have moved
their console out.
> Larry
>
>
I agree with what Larry says here. (Even if Scott Olendorf's panel setup is extremely
cool)
It is really easy to make the panel on the FSII slide out a bit; notice that the
wood has holes drilled in it and the windscreen tubes fit through it. You remove
one screw on either side and the panel will slide up the tubes about 8 inches,
plenty of room to get access to the back side.
Radio Shack is out of business, but the little black box with all the switches
on it has lots of room for all your wiring needs. Probably other electronics shops
sell similar boxes.
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Richard Pike
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| Subject: | Re: Extending instrument panel |
One more thought: if you do extend the panel back toward your shins, make sure
it is not rigidly attached to anything.
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Thank you Richard and Jim for your inputs! Appreciate it.
Mahesh
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| Subject: | Re: Extending instrument panel |
Pat
Many of us live in remote locations that never talk to control towers. I
think it has been ten years since talking to any tower. Even flying into
the the LSA strip at Oshkosh and Sun N Fun, just flew in. I set my
altimeter at the base elevation of the airport I take off from while on the
ground.
I have a stick that I use to adjust my altimeter and switches on the panel
while belted in. I have a holder that keeps the stick safely stored when
not in use. George A got a chuckle and took pictures of it a few years back.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 6:44 AM, Patrick Ladd <patrickjladd@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> <<The only thing on my cockpit that I need to do anything with is adjust
> the altimeter. I do that on the ground>>
> Thats interesting Larry. Do you not set your altimeter to read zero when
> you land at an away field? Normally we set QFE Baro pressure at your home
> field if just messing about locally. When approaching another field the
> local pressure will be passed to you along with wind speed and direction,
> circuit direction, circuit height etc. So if you are supposed to join the
> circuit at 1000 ft then that is the height which your altimeter shows.
> Pat
>
> *From:* Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, March 7, 2016 5:55 AM
> *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Kolb-List: Re: Extending instrument panel
>
> Looking at the inside shot of the pictures you posted, there's not much
> room between the pilot's shins and the bottom edge of the extension.
>
>
> I am not sure how big you are, but let me tell you how I get into my
> plane. I am 6 feet- 235 lbs. I sit backwards on my seat, lift my left leg
> over the stick, and down onto the rudder pedals. I of course reverse this
> process to get out of the plane. My plane has longer gear legs, so I had to
> change the method of entering the cockpit. With the smaller gear legs, One
> can lift up the wind screen- stick the left leg in, then put your butt on
> the seat. Much like what you do to get into a sports car. These are only
> ways to get in that I have found. Smaller younger pilots will be able to do
> things that I probably cannot.
>
> The only thing on my cockpit that I need to do anything with is adjust the
> altimeter. I do that on the ground. The rest of the controls that I need-
> tank selection- fuel pump, strobe, ignition switch are all located in
> various spots that are within reach.
>
> Primarily what I am saying is that you can position every thing that you
> need in spots that allow you to reach them while seated and flying. It just
> takes some thinking on your part. However you are the one that will be
> flying it, your choice, but give it some serious thought. I have a small
> center console in front of the stick that holds my radio, all my switches-
> plug ins for the intercom. HAC man system on the left side by the throttle,
> fuel selector switches on the gusset to the left of my seat. Take a poll
> and see how many have moved their console out.
>
> Larry
> Larry
>
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 9:06 PM, George Alexander <gtalexander@att.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Mcabbage wrote:
>> > I would like to extend my fs2 Inst. panel
>> >
>> > .S N I P .
>> >
>> > Mike
>>
>>
>> Being one who must remain conscious of leg room, I would be careful how
>> deep you make your extension and/or the top to bottom measurement. Too
>> much in either of these dimensions will cut down that leg room. Looking at
>> the inside shot of the pictures you posted, there's not much room between
>> the pilot's shins and the bottom edge of the extension.
>>
>> As Beauford would say.... "Worth what you paid fer it.."
>>
>> --------
>> George Alexander
>> FS II R503 N709FS
>> http://www.oh2fly.net
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=453484#453484
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>>
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| Subject: | Re: Extending instrument panel |
Thank you Olendorf, George, Larry, John and Rick
Richard- Ouch! that looks like it hurt! a lot.... it hurts just to see.
Larry, how did you extend the gear legs?
Many thanks
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: Extending instrument panel |
"Larry, how did you extend the gear legs?"
I got a pair of 4130 gear legs built by a friend that were 36 inches long.
That gives me 24 inches sticking out rather than the stock alum legs. I
also run 800X6 tires.
Larry
On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 5:02 PM, Mcabbage <Mc@americanbuilding.com> wrote:
>
> Thank you Olendorf, George, Larry, John and Rick
>
> Richard- Ouch! that looks like it hurt! a lot.... it hurts just to see.
>
> Larry, how did you extend the gear legs?
>
> Many thanks
> Mike
>
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> 2007 Firestar 2 503 N203SD
> Moster 185 flattop PPG/Sky K2 Paraglider
> Trike Buggy Soaring Trike & Northwing Stratus XP
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Nice!
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| Subject: | Re: Extending instrument panel |
The extra long 36 inch gear.... do you notice a shorter takeoff roll because of
the higher ground angle of the wing??? Enquiring minds want to know ! I want
to build up my Firestar 2 as a STOL airplane :)
Bill Berle
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On Mon, 3/7/16, Mcabbage <Mc@americanbuilding.com> wrote:
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Extending instrument panel
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Date: Monday, March 7, 2016, 4:23 PM
"Mcabbage" <Mc@americanbuilding.com>
Nice!
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The extra long 36 inch gear.... do you notice a shorter takeoff roll
because of the higher ground angle of the wing??? Enquiring minds want to
know ! I want to build up my Firestar 2 as a STOL airplane :)
I am afraid that I cannot say for sure. You would have to ask others for
that answer. I only know that it looks better, feels better, and I like it.
:-)
Larry
On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
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> The extra long 36 inch gear.... do you notice a shorter takeoff roll
> because of the higher ground angle of the wing??? Enquiring minds want to
> know ! I want to build up my Firestar 2 as a STOL airplane :)
>
> Bill Berle
> www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
> www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and
> for-profit entities
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>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Extending instrument panel
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Date: Monday, March 7, 2016, 4:23 PM
>
> "Mcabbage" <Mc@americanbuilding.com>
>
> Nice!
>
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> Moster 185 flattop PPG/Sky K2 Paraglider
> Trike Buggy Soaring Trike & Northwing Stratus XP
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