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1. 05:37 AM - Re: Re: motor mounts (Herb)
2. 07:07 AM - Re: Tires for your Firestar (Charlie England)
3. 07:14 AM - Re: Re: Tires for your Firestar (Charlie England)
4. 09:30 AM - Re: Re: Tires for your Firestar (Richard Girard)
5. 09:34 AM - Re: Kolb tires (Rick Neilsen)
6. 09:57 AM - Re: Re: Tires for your Firestar (Bill Berle)
7. 10:38 AM - Re: Re: Tires for your Firestar (Larry Cottrell)
8. 10:50 AM - Re: Re: Kolb tires (B Young)
9. 10:52 AM - Re: Re: Kolb tires (B Young)
10. 11:11 AM - Re: Re: Tires for your Firestar (Bill Berle)
11. 12:25 PM - Re: Re: Kolb tires (John Hauck)
12. 12:37 PM - Re: Re: Tires for your Firestar (John Hauck)
13. 01:00 PM - Re: Re: Tires for your Firestar (Stuart Harner)
14. 02:17 PM - Re: Re: Tires for your Firestar (Bill Berle)
15. 02:23 PM - Re: Kolb tires (Rex Rodebush)
16. 03:10 PM - Re: Re: Kolb tires (John Hauck)
17. 03:39 PM - Re: Re: Tires for your Firestar (John Hauck)
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Subject: | Re: motor mounts |
Not now...just getting my ducks in a row for my next project... seems
that you had a good price on them? Herb
On 03/13/2016 09:06 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
>
> Herb, I have them. Do you need 4
>
> --------
> Kolb Firestar II
> 503 C-Box / RK400
> Soon to have a
> Rotax 670 DCDI
> with a C-Box and
> RK 400 Clutch
>
> Challenger II
> 503 Tall Drive
>
> Location : Buffalo South Carolina
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=453733#453733
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Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
You could be right, but the only time I've ever seen a mark on an auto
tire is when the tire tech marks it prior to pulling it off the rim to
fix a flat. I will concede that you have about a decade more experience
available, as I'm only 64 (until the end of the week).
I do agree that a/c tires are usually made to higher standards than what
you'd find on a garden trailer (what's often seen on UL's & other
non-certified light a/c. But the fact that the instructions give 2
possible alignments, depending on whether the tube is marked, seems to
say that the tire has a heavy spot, and the tube does also (which may or
may not be the valve stem). The very fact that they are marking the
light spot on the wheel makes it very difficult to accept that it's
'balanced'.
Charlie
On 3/12/2016 9:58 AM, John Hauck wrote:
>
> To the best of my knowledge, there is a reference mark on all auto/truck and
aircraft tires to align the valve stem, whether tube or tubeless. The valve stem,
tube or tubeless, is aligned with the mark on the tire bead. I imagine the
tire is manufactured to compensate for the valve stem and the valve stem hole
in the wheel. What do you think?
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charlie England
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 9:48 PM
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tires for your Firestar
>
>
> OK, lets go with your assertion. Why are there explicit instructions on aligning
a stripe on the tube with a red dot on the tire, or aligning a red dot on
the tire with the valve stem if there's no stripe on the tube?
>
> On 3/11/2016 9:36 PM, John Hauck wrote:
>>
>> Yes, aircraft tires are trued and balanced when manufactured. Of course the
tire, tube, and wheel assembly must be fine tuned when mounted, just like an
auto tire that is also trued and balanced when they are manufactured.
>>
>> Off road, golf cart type tires are not trued and balanced when manufactured.
It is obvious when you mount an egg shaped out balance tire on your airplane.
>>
>> john h
>> mkIII
>> Titus, Alabama
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charlie
>> England
>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 8:59 PM
>> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tires for your Firestar
>>
>> --> <ceengland7@gmail.com>
>>
>> Just a heads-up; if you think a/c tires are trued & balanced, read
>> this installation guide carefully. :-)
>>
>> http://www.desser.com/content/tire_mounting_info.asp
>>
>> Charlie
>>
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Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
The tires and wheels do look nice, and are likely a good option if
flying close to home.
However, it seems like you're missing his point. He's talking about real
'bush' flying, away from airports & service facilities. With
conventional 2 piece wheels, you could break them down with simple hand
tools to repair a flat, and a small hand pump to re-inflate. But with
auto-style one piece wheels, it requires specialized (heavy) tools to
break a tire down for repair. Not likely to be in a tool kit you can
carry in a Kolb or other very light a/c.
Charlie
On 3/13/2016 11:19 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
>
> Bill, I use a cheap harbor freight device for putting the tires on, cost $49.95
I think.
>
>
> Rick, The only tires that I sell are these that I have pictures of and they fit
on a 8 inch rims
>
> --------
> Kolb Firestar II
> 503 C-Box / RK400
> Soon to have a
> Rotax 670 DCDI
> with a C-Box and
> RK 400 Clutch
>
> Challenger II
> 503 Tall Drive
>
> Location : Buffalo South Carolina
>
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Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
I have three metal tire irons that I carry with me. Less than 1 lb. for the
set and with a little water as lubricant they get the tire off a one piece
wheel just fine. It's breaking the bead that's the trick and for that I
just use a hammer with one iron to get it started. It's not what I'd use at
home, but we're talking stranded in the outback with the vultures circling.
:-}
Rick Girard
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 9:16 AM, Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> The tires and wheels do look nice, and are likely a good option if flying
> close to home.
>
> However, it seems like you're missing his point. He's talking about real
> 'bush' flying, away from airports & service facilities. With conventional
2
> piece wheels, you could break them down with simple hand tools to repair
a
> flat, and a small hand pump to re-inflate. But with auto-style one piece
> wheels, it requires specialized (heavy) tools to break a tire down for
> repair. Not likely to be in a tool kit you can carry in a Kolb or other
> very light a/c.
>
> Charlie
>
> On 3/13/2016 11:19 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
>
m
>> >
>>
>> Bill, I use a cheap harbor freight device for putting the tires on, cos
t
>> $49.95 I think.
>>
>>
>> Rick, The only tires that I sell are these that I have pictures of and
>> they fit on a 8 inch rims
>>
>> --------
>> Kolb Firestar II
>> 503 C-Box / RK400
>> Soon to have a
>> Rotax 670 DCDI
>> with a C-Box and
>> RK 400 Clutch
>>
>> Challenger II
>> 503 Tall Drive
>>
>> Location : Buffalo South Carolina
>>
>>
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Amazon has Carlyle 800-6 4ply tires straight rib for $50, I have these on
my plane now. They are showing wear and need replacement. I would like
taller tires but haven't decided yet and $100 for the Carlyle vs $220 for
the 21" tall 800-6 tires is a consideration.
I'm going to talk to the Matco guys at Sun N Fun about braking power.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:34 AM, B Young <byoungplumbing@gmail.com> wrote:
> Rick... Dessors.com had 800 -6 Carlyle turf tires for a 6 inch rim for
> 80,,, the 21-800-6 for 110. Or the same tire with the tread ground off
> for 170. Also 800-6 aircraft tires from 160 to somewhere north of 200
> they all fit 6inch rims
>
> Boyd
>
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Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
Yes, I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to hassle or trash-talk anyone
or their product. I do prefer not having to wrestle with someone just to get
an answer to my question, but regardless of the effort it takes to get that answer
my motives and agendas are positive and not negative.
My situation is that I want to fly extreme-STOL up in the mountains and desert.
I've been scouting several locations in my 172, and believe it or not most of
them are actually within 50 or 60 miles of the "big city" limits. So it's not
like I'm going out Grizzly bear bow hunting in the Aleutian Islands or anything...
but it's still way too far for me to just "walk into town" with a tire and
wheel in my hands.
I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a tire pump. Even on a certified172
I can take the wheel off the airplane with a medium Crescent wrench,
take the wheel apart with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch
a tire, and get it back together to fly back home.
Bill Berle
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com" <kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 9:29 AM
I have three metal
tire irons that I carry with me. Less than 1 lb. for the set
and with a little water as lubricant they get the tire off a
one piece wheel just fine. It's breaking the bead
that's the trick and for that I just use a hammer with
one iron to get it started. It's not what I'd use at
home, but we're talking stranded in the outback with the
vultures circling. :-}
Rick Girard
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 9:16 AM, Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
wrote:
Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
The tires and wheels do look nice, and are likely a good
option if flying close to home.
However, it seems like you're missing his point.
He's talking about real 'bush' flying, away from
airports & service facilities. With conventional 2 piece
wheels, you could break them down with simple hand tools to
repair a flat, and a small hand pump to re-inflate. But with
auto-style one piece wheels, it requires specialized (heavy)
tools to break a tire down for repair. Not likely to be in a
tool kit you can carry in a Kolb or other very light
a/c.
Charlie
On 3/13/2016 11:19 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
Flyer" <joe.a.lawson@gmail.com>
Bill, I use a cheap harbor freight device for putting the
tires on, cost $49.95 I think.
Rick, The only tires that I sell are these that I have
pictures of and they fit on a 8 inch rims
--------
Kolb Firestar II
503 C-Box / RK400
Soon to have a
Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch
Challenger II
503 Tall Drive
Location : Buffalo South Carolina
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Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
"
I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a tire pump. Even on
a certified172 I can take the wheel off the airplane with a medium Crescent
wrench, take the wheel apart with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner
tube or patch a tire, and get it back together to fly back home."
I just carry a can of "spare tire" wrapped in bubble wrap in the back of my
plane.
Larry
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
>
> Yes, I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to hassle or trash-talk
> anyone or their product. I do prefer not having to wrestle with someone
> just to get an answer to my question, but regardless of the effort it tak
es
> to get that answer my motives and agendas are positive and not negative.
>
> My situation is that I want to fly extreme-STOL up in the mountains and
> desert. I've been scouting several locations in my 172, and believe it or
> not most of them are actually within 50 or 60 miles of the "big city"
> limits. So it's not like I'm going out Grizzly bear bow hunting in the
> Aleutian Islands or anything... but it's still way too far for me to just
> "walk into town" with a tire and wheel in my hands.
>
> I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a tire pump. Even o
n
> a certified172 I can take the wheel off the airplane with a medium Cresce
nt
> wrench, take the wheel apart with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner
> tube or patch a tire, and get it back together to fly back home.
>
>
> Bill Berle
> --------------------------------------------
> On Mon, 3/14/16, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
> To: "kolb-list@matronics.com" <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 9:29 AM
>
> I have three metal
> tire irons that I carry with me. Less than 1 lb. for the set
> and with a little water as lubricant they get the tire off a
> one piece wheel just fine. It's breaking the bead
> that's the trick and for that I just use a hammer with
> one iron to get it started. It's not what I'd use at
> home, but we're talking stranded in the outback with the
> vultures circling. :-}
> Rick Girard
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
> at 9:16 AM, Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
>
>
> The tires and wheels do look nice, and are likely a good
> option if flying close to home.
>
>
> However, it seems like you're missing his point.
> He's talking about real 'bush' flying, away from
> airports & service facilities. With conventional 2 piece
> wheels, you could break them down with simple hand tools to
> repair a flat, and a small hand pump to re-inflate. But with
> auto-style one piece wheels, it requires specialized (heavy)
> tools to break a tire down for repair. Not likely to be in a
> tool kit you can carry in a Kolb or other very light
> a/c.
>
>
> Charlie
>
>
> On 3/13/2016 11:19 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
>
>
> Flyer" <joe.a.lawson@gmail.com>
>
>
> Bill, I use a cheap harbor freight device for putting the
> tires on, cost $49.95 I think.
>
>
> Rick, The only tires that I sell are these that I have
> pictures of and they fit on a 8 inch rims
>
>
> --------
>
> Kolb Firestar II
>
> 503 C-Box / RK400
>
> Soon to have a
>
> Rotax 670 DCDI
>
> with a C-Box and
>
> RK 400 Clutch
>
>
> Challenger II
>
> 503 Tall Drive
>
>
> Location : Buffalo South Carolina
>
>
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I stopped by matco last week, they have a backing plate that that you
can mount a brake caliper on both front and back. I've got access to
extra calipers so only picked up the backing plate. usually it comes as
a kit with two plates and two calipers
Boyd
On Mar 14, 2016 10:37 AM, "Rick Neilsen" <neilsenrm@gmail.com> wrote:
> Amazon has Carlyle 800-6 4ply tires straight rib for $50, I have these on
> my plane now. They are showing wear and need replacement. I would like
> taller tires but haven't decided yet and $100 for the Carlyle vs $220 for
> the 21" tall 800-6 tires is a consideration.
>
> I'm going to talk to the Matco guys at Sun N Fun about braking power.
>
> Rick Neilsen
> Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:34 AM, B Young <byoungplumbing@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Rick... Dessors.com had 800 -6 Carlyle turf tires for a 6 inch rim for
>> 80,,, the 21-800-6 for 110. Or the same tire with the tread ground off
>> for 170. Also 800-6 aircraft tires from 160 to somewhere north of 200
>> they all fit 6inch rims
>>
>> Boyd
>>
>
>
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with the bigger tires you will need the extra brakes
On Mar 14, 2016 10:37 AM, "Rick Neilsen" <neilsenrm@gmail.com> wrote:
> Amazon has Carlyle 800-6 4ply tires straight rib for $50, I have these on
> my plane now. They are showing wear and need replacement. I would like
> taller tires but haven't decided yet and $100 for the Carlyle vs $220 for
> the 21" tall 800-6 tires is a consideration.
>
> I'm going to talk to the Matco guys at Sun N Fun about braking power.
>
> Rick Neilsen
> Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:34 AM, B Young <byoungplumbing@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Rick... Dessors.com had 800 -6 Carlyle turf tires for a 6 inch rim for
>> 80,,, the 21-800-6 for 110. Or the same tire with the tread ground off
>> for 170. Also 800-6 aircraft tires from 160 to somewhere north of 200
>> they all fit 6inch rims
>>
>> Boyd
>>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
Here's a potential game-changer solution right here...
http://www.goldspeedproducts.com/shop/tire-blocks/
These are foam inserts that allow you to run lower pressure and even run safely
when punctured flat.
I'll bet that these foam blocks weigh less than the three piece tire iron set that
was mentioned earlier, or the can of flat tire repair goop :)
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
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On Mon, 3/14/16, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com" <kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 10:37 AM
"
I
will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a tire
pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off the
airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel apart
with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch a
tire, and get it back together to fly back
home."
I just
carry a can of "spare tire" wrapped in bubble wrap
in the back of my plane.
Larry
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 10:56 AM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
Yes, I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to
hassle or trash-talk anyone or their product. I do prefer
not having to wrestle with someone just to get an answer to
my question, but regardless of the effort it takes to get
that answer my motives and agendas are positive and not
negative.
My situation is that I want to fly extreme-STOL up in the
mountains and desert. I've been scouting several
locations in my 172, and believe it or not most of them are
actually within 50 or 60 miles of the "big city"
limits. So it's not like I'm going out Grizzly bear
bow hunting in the Aleutian Islands or anything... but
it's still way too far for me to just "walk into
town" with a tire and wheel in my hands.
I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a tire
pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off the
airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel apart
with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch a
tire, and get it back together to fly back home.
Bill Berle
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com"
<kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 9:29 AM
I have three metal
tire irons that I carry with me. Less than 1 lb. for the
set
and with a little water as lubricant they get the tire off
a
one piece wheel just fine. It's breaking the bead
that's the trick and for that I just use a hammer
with
one iron to get it started. It's not what I'd use
at
home, but we're talking stranded in the outback with
the
vultures circling. :-}
Rick Girard
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 9:16 AM, Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
wrote:
Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
The tires and wheels do look nice, and are likely a good
option if flying close to home.
However, it seems like you're missing his point.
He's talking about real 'bush' flying, away
from
airports & service facilities. With conventional 2
piece
wheels, you could break them down with simple hand tools
to
repair a flat, and a small hand pump to re-inflate. But
with
auto-style one piece wheels, it requires specialized
(heavy)
tools to break a tire down for repair. Not likely to be in
a
tool kit you can carry in a Kolb or other very light
a/c.
Charlie
On 3/13/2016 11:19 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
Flyer" <joe.a.lawson@gmail.com>
Bill, I use a cheap harbor freight device for putting
the
tires on, cost $49.95 I think.
Rick, The only tires that I sell are these that I have
pictures of and they fit on a 8 inch rims
--------
Kolb Firestar II
503 C-Box / RK400
Soon to have a
Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch
Challenger II
503 Tall Drive
Location : Buffalo South Carolina
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John Williamson had dual calipers on his Kolbra.
Another caliper on my MKIII would be nice to have. I can not quite hold
my aircraft at wide open throttle.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of B Young
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb tires
with the bigger tires you will need the extra brakes
On Mar 14, 2016 10:37 AM, "Rick Neilsen" <neilsenrm@gmail.com> wrote:
Amazon has Carlyle 800-6 4ply tires straight rib for $50, I have these
on my plane now. They are showing wear and need replacement. I would
like taller tires but haven't decided yet and $100 for the Carlyle vs
$220 for the 21" tall 800-6 tires is a consideration.
I'm going to talk to the Matco guys at Sun N Fun about braking power.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:34 AM, B Young <byoungplumbing@gmail.com>
wrote:
Rick... Dessors.com had 800 -6 Carlyle turf tires for a 6 inch rim
for 80,,, the 21-800-6 for 110. Or the same tire with the tread ground
off for 170. Also 800-6 aircraft tires from 160 to somewhere north of
200 they all fit 6inch rims
Boyd
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Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
You can go down to the local ag supplier or tire dealer that does ag tires and
get your tires filled with foam. No more flats and no more suspension help.
4-6 psi, even 8-10 psi is a big help on rough/soft fields/strips. Believe that
foam would make the tire rigid, or at least that is what I have read on some
of the antique tractor forums. A big foot print makes a lot of difference when
pulling.
I use the best heavy duty inner tube I can find for the MKIII. Now I discover
Desser has a double heavy duty self sealing tube:
"CUSTOMERS asked for an AIRCRAFT SPECIFICATION TUBE for this application. Twice
as thick as the Light Sport Rated tube and made by our aircraft tube manufacturer.
"LEAKGUARD" Butyl Inner Tubes Are Blended With A Proprietary Leak Resistant Compound
For Less Maintenance. Aero Classic provides more aircraft tubes to the US
Military than any other manufacturer. Aero Classic tubes are FULL SIZE, not
stretch to fit."
I'll give these a try next time I change out my tubes.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Berle
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
Here's a potential game-changer solution right here...
http://www.goldspeedproducts.com/shop/tire-blocks/
These are foam inserts that allow you to run lower pressure and even run safely
when punctured flat.
I'll bet that these foam blocks weigh less than the three piece tire iron set that
was mentioned earlier, or the can of flat tire repair goop :)
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com" <kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 10:37 AM
"
I
will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a tire pump. Even on a certified172
I can take the wheel off the airplane with a medium Crescent wrench,
take the wheel apart with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch
a tire, and get it back together to fly back home."
I just
carry a can of "spare tire" wrapped in bubble wrap in the back of my plane.
Larry
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 10:56 AM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
Yes, I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to hassle or trash-talk anyone
or their product. I do prefer not having to wrestle with someone just to get
an answer to my question, but regardless of the effort it takes to get that
answer my motives and agendas are positive and not negative.
My situation is that I want to fly extreme-STOL up in the mountains and desert.
I've been scouting several locations in my 172, and believe it or not most
of them are actually within 50 or 60 miles of the "big city"
limits. So it's not like I'm going out Grizzly bear bow hunting in the Aleutian
Islands or anything... but it's still way too far for me to just "walk into
town" with a tire and wheel in my hands.
I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a tire pump. Even on a
certified172 I can take the wheel off the airplane with a medium Crescent wrench,
take the wheel apart with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or
patch a tire, and get it back together to fly back home.
Bill Berle
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com"
<kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 9:29 AM
I have three metal
tire irons that I carry with me. Less than 1 lb. for the set
and with a little water as lubricant they get the tire off a
one piece wheel just fine. It's breaking the bead
that's the trick and for that I just use a hammer with
one iron to get it started. It's not what I'd use at
home, but we're talking stranded in the outback with the
vultures circling. :-}
Rick Girard
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 9:16 AM, Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
wrote:
Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
The tires and wheels do look nice, and are likely a good
option if flying close to home.
However, it seems like you're missing his point.
He's talking about real 'bush' flying, away from
airports & service facilities. With conventional 2 piece
wheels, you could break them down with simple hand tools to
repair a flat, and a small hand pump to re-inflate. But with
auto-style one piece wheels, it requires specialized
(heavy)
tools to break a tire down for repair. Not likely to be in a
tool kit you can carry in a Kolb or other very light
a/c.
Charlie
On 3/13/2016 11:19 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
Flyer" <joe.a.lawson@gmail.com>
Bill, I use a cheap harbor freight device for putting the
tires on, cost $49.95 I think.
Rick, The only tires that I sell are these that I have
pictures of and they fit on a 8 inch rims
--------
Kolb Firestar II
503 C-Box / RK400
Soon to have a
Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch
Challenger II
503 Tall Drive
Location : Buffalo South Carolina
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John,
You are right about foaming a tire. When I worked for the county road crew we would
foam tires on the packer that went flat.
Foaming is a permanent fix for a tire, it will never go flat again. It also is
very, very heavy. If I foamed the tires on the Firefly I am not sure I could
lift off with them. :)
Also correct about making the tire solid. No give what so ever. Would be like landing
with skis on pavement. :(
A can of "fix-a-flat" is probably a fairly good way to go. If you get a small puncture
the sealant will probably seal it and there should be enough "air" to
fill the small tire of a Kolb. A slice or rip in the tire or tube can't be fixed
with sealant so you are probably walking.
The LEAKGUARD is an interesting product and will probably be a good return for
the small amount of increased weight. Of course maybe we could fill our tires
with helium to counteract the added weight. :)
I wonder how many more Kolb's would qualify as ultralight if we put bags of helium
between the ribs? Bryan?
Stuart
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Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 2:38 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
You can go down to the local ag supplier or tire dealer that does ag tires and
get your tires filled with foam. No more flats and no more suspension help.
4-6 psi, even 8-10 psi is a big help on rough/soft fields/strips. Believe that
foam would make the tire rigid, or at least that is what I have read on some
of the antique tractor forums. A big foot print makes a lot of difference when
pulling.
I use the best heavy duty inner tube I can find for the MKIII. Now I discover
Desser has a double heavy duty self sealing tube:
"CUSTOMERS asked for an AIRCRAFT SPECIFICATION TUBE for this application. Twice
as thick as the Light Sport Rated tube and made by our aircraft tube manufacturer.
"LEAKGUARD" Butyl Inner Tubes Are Blended With A Proprietary Leak Resistant Compound
For Less Maintenance. Aero Classic provides more aircraft tubes to the US
Military than any other manufacturer. Aero Classic tubes are FULL SIZE, not
stretch to fit."
I'll give these a try next time I change out my tubes.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Berle
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
Here's a potential game-changer solution right here...
http://www.goldspeedproducts.com/shop/tire-blocks/
These are foam inserts that allow you to run lower pressure and even run safely
when punctured flat.
I'll bet that these foam blocks weigh less than the three piece tire iron set that
was mentioned earlier, or the can of flat tire repair goop :)
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com" <kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 10:37 AM
"
I
will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a tire pump. Even on a certified172
I can take the wheel off the airplane with a medium Crescent wrench,
take the wheel apart with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch
a tire, and get it back together to fly back home."
I just
carry a can of "spare tire" wrapped in bubble wrap in the back of my plane.
Larry
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 10:56 AM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
Yes, I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to hassle or trash-talk anyone
or their product. I do prefer not having to wrestle with someone just to get
an answer to my question, but regardless of the effort it takes to get that
answer my motives and agendas are positive and not negative.
My situation is that I want to fly extreme-STOL up in the mountains and desert.
I've been scouting several locations in my 172, and believe it or not most
of them are actually within 50 or 60 miles of the "big city"
limits. So it's not like I'm going out Grizzly bear bow hunting in the Aleutian
Islands or anything... but it's still way too far for me to just "walk into
town" with a tire and wheel in my hands.
I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a tire pump. Even on a
certified172 I can take the wheel off the airplane with a medium Crescent wrench,
take the wheel apart with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or
patch a tire, and get it back together to fly back home.
Bill Berle
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com"
<kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 9:29 AM
I have three metal
tire irons that I carry with me. Less than 1 lb. for the set
and with a little water as lubricant they get the tire off a
one piece wheel just fine. It's breaking the bead
that's the trick and for that I just use a hammer with
one iron to get it started. It's not what I'd use at
home, but we're talking stranded in the outback with the
vultures circling. :-}
Rick Girard
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 9:16 AM, Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
wrote:
Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
The tires and wheels do look nice, and are likely a good
option if flying close to home.
However, it seems like you're missing his point.
He's talking about real 'bush' flying, away from
airports & service facilities. With conventional 2 piece
wheels, you could break them down with simple hand tools to
repair a flat, and a small hand pump to re-inflate. But with
auto-style one piece wheels, it requires specialized
(heavy)
tools to break a tire down for repair. Not likely to be in a
tool kit you can carry in a Kolb or other very light
a/c.
Charlie
On 3/13/2016 11:19 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
Flyer" <joe.a.lawson@gmail.com>
Bill, I use a cheap harbor freight device for putting the
tires on, cost $49.95 I think.
Rick, The only tires that I sell are these that I have
pictures of and they fit on a 8 inch rims
--------
Kolb Firestar II
503 C-Box / RK400
Soon to have a
Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch
Challenger II
503 Tall Drive
Location : Buffalo South Carolina
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Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
The foam blocks that I linked in my post looked like they had some give to them,
not rigid. They had a compressor tool that squeezes the foam blocks for installation....
I am betting that they use a flexible foam.
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Stuart Harner <stuart@harnerfarm.net> wrote:
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 12:57 PM
"Stuart Harner" <stuart@harnerfarm.net>
John,
You are right about foaming a tire. When I worked for the
county road crew we would foam tires on the packer that went
flat.
Foaming is a permanent fix for a tire, it will never go flat
again. It also is very, very heavy. If I foamed
the tires on the Firefly I am not sure I could lift off with
them. :)
Also correct about making the tire solid. No give what so
ever. Would be like landing with skis on pavement. :(
A can of "fix-a-flat" is probably a fairly good way to go.
If you get a small puncture the sealant will probably seal
it and there should be enough "air" to fill the small tire
of a Kolb. A slice or rip in the tire or tube can't be fixed
with sealant so you are probably walking.
The LEAKGUARD is an interesting product and will probably be
a good return for the small amount of increased
weight. Of course maybe we could fill our tires with
helium to counteract the added weight. :)
I wonder how many more Kolb's would qualify as ultralight if
we put bags of helium between the ribs? Bryan?
Stuart
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]
On Behalf Of John Hauck
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 2:38 PM
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
You can go down to the local ag supplier or tire dealer that
does ag tires and get your tires filled with foam. No
more flats and no more suspension help. 4-6 psi, even
8-10 psi is a big help on rough/soft fields/strips.
Believe that foam would make the tire rigid, or at least
that is what I have read on some of the antique tractor
forums. A big foot print makes a lot of difference
when pulling.
I use the best heavy duty inner tube I can find for the
MKIII. Now I discover Desser has a double heavy duty
self sealing tube:
"CUSTOMERS asked for an AIRCRAFT SPECIFICATION TUBE for this
application. Twice as thick as the Light Sport Rated
tube and made by our aircraft tube manufacturer.
"LEAKGUARD" Butyl Inner Tubes Are Blended With A
Proprietary Leak Resistant Compound For Less Maintenance.
Aero Classic provides more aircraft tubes to the US Military
than any other manufacturer. Aero Classic tubes are FULL
SIZE, not stretch to fit."
I'll give these a try next time I change out my tubes.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]
On Behalf Of Bill Berle
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 1:09 PM
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
Here's a potential game-changer solution right here...
http://www.goldspeedproducts.com/shop/tire-blocks/
These are foam inserts that allow you to run lower pressure
and even run safely when punctured flat.
I'll bet that these foam blocks weigh less than the three
piece tire iron set that was mentioned earlier, or the can
of flat tire repair goop :)
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance
upgrade for light aircraft www.grantstar.net
- winning proposals for
non-profit and for-profit entities
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com"
<kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 10:37 AM
"
I
will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a
tire pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel
off the airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take
the wheel apart with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an
inner tube or patch a tire, and get it back together
to fly back home."
I just
carry a can of "spare tire" wrapped in bubble wrap in
the back of my plane.
Larry
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 10:56 AM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
Yes, I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to
hassle or trash-talk anyone or their product. I do
prefer not having to wrestle with someone just to get
an answer to my question, but regardless of the effort
it takes to get that answer my motives and agendas are
positive and not negative.
My situation is that I want to fly extreme-STOL up in
the mountains and desert. I've been scouting
several locations in my 172, and believe it or not
most of them are actually within 50 or 60 miles of the
"big city"
limits. So it's not like I'm going out Grizzly bear
bow hunting in the Aleutian Islands or anything... but
it's still way too far for me to just "walk into town"
with a tire and wheel in my hands.
I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a
tire pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel
off the airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take
the wheel apart with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an
inner tube or patch a tire, and get it back together
to fly back home.
Bill Berle
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com"
<kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 9:29 AM
I have three metal
tire irons that I carry with me. Less than 1 lb. for
the set
and with a little water as lubricant they get the
tire off a
one piece wheel just fine. It's breaking the bead
that's the trick and for that I just use a
hammer with
one iron to get it started. It's not what I'd
use at
home, but we're talking stranded in the outback
with the
vultures circling. :-}
Rick Girard
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 9:16 AM, Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
wrote:
Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
The tires and wheels do look nice, and are likely a
good
option if flying close to home.
However, it seems like you're missing his point.
He's talking about real 'bush' flying, away
from
airports & service facilities. With conventional
2 piece
wheels, you could break them down with simple hand
tools to
repair a flat, and a small hand pump to re-inflate.
But with
auto-style one piece wheels, it requires specialized
(heavy)
tools to break a tire down for repair. Not likely to
be in a
tool kit you can carry in a Kolb or other very light
a/c.
Charlie
On 3/13/2016 11:19 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
Flyer" <joe.a.lawson@gmail.com>
Bill, I use a cheap harbor freight device for
putting the
tires on, cost $49.95 I think.
Rick, The only tires that I sell are these that I
have
pictures of and they fit on a 8 inch rims
--------
Kolb Firestar II
503 C-Box / RK400
Soon to have a
Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch
Challenger II
503 Tall Drive
Location : Buffalo South Carolina
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I have 8.00-6 tires and one Matco caliper was not enough. I added an additional
newer Matco caliper on the existing wheels and now I can lock a wheel to make
a sharp turn and also hold tight at run up. See pictures.
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Rex/Kolbers:
I like that. Much beefier looking caliper.
What is the mechanical advantage of your brake pedals?
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rex Rodebush
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 4:22 PM
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I have 8.00-6 tires and one Matco caliper was not enough. I added an
additional newer Matco caliper on the existing wheels and now I can lock a
wheel to make a sharp turn and also hold tight at run up. See pictures.
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Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
I think you are right. I found their Facebook page. Looked at a few video clips.
Seemed to be working out on quads and SXSs.
May have something there. Give'em a try. Let us know how they work out.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Berle
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 4:14 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
The foam blocks that I linked in my post looked like they had some give to them,
not rigid. They had a compressor tool that squeezes the foam blocks for installation....
I am betting that they use a flexible foam.
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
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On Mon, 3/14/16, Stuart Harner <stuart@harnerfarm.net> wrote:
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 12:57 PM
"Stuart Harner" <stuart@harnerfarm.net>
John,
You are right about foaming a tire. When I worked for the county road crew we
would foam tires on the packer that went flat.
Foaming is a permanent fix for a tire, it will never go flat again. It also
is very, very heavy. If I foamed the tires on the Firefly I am not sure I could
lift off with them. :)
Also correct about making the tire solid. No give what so ever. Would be like
landing with skis on pavement. :(
A can of "fix-a-flat" is probably a fairly good way to go.
If you get a small puncture the sealant will probably seal it and there should
be enough "air" to fill the small tire of a Kolb. A slice or rip in the tire
or tube can't be fixed with sealant so you are probably walking.
The LEAKGUARD is an interesting product and will probably be a good return for
the small amount of increased weight. Of course maybe we could fill our tires
with helium to counteract the added weight. :)
I wonder how many more Kolb's would qualify as ultralight if we put bags of helium
between the ribs? Bryan?
Stuart
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Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 2:38 PM
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
You can go down to the local ag supplier or tire dealer that does ag tires and
get your tires filled with foam. No more flats and no more suspension help.
4-6 psi, even
8-10 psi is a big help on rough/soft fields/strips. Believe that foam would make
the tire rigid, or at least that is what I have read on some of the antique
tractor forums. A big foot print makes a lot of difference when pulling.
I use the best heavy duty inner tube I can find for the MKIII. Now I discover
Desser has a double heavy duty self sealing tube:
"CUSTOMERS asked for an AIRCRAFT SPECIFICATION TUBE for this application. Twice
as thick as the Light Sport Rated tube and made by our aircraft tube manufacturer.
"LEAKGUARD" Butyl Inner Tubes Are Blended With A Proprietary Leak Resistant Compound
For Less Maintenance.
Aero Classic provides more aircraft tubes to the US Military than any other manufacturer.
Aero Classic tubes are FULL SIZE, not stretch to fit."
I'll give these a try next time I change out my tubes.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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On Behalf Of Bill Berle
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 1:09 PM
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
Here's a potential game-changer solution right here...
http://www.goldspeedproducts.com/shop/tire-blocks/
These are foam inserts that allow you to run lower pressure and even run safely
when punctured flat.
I'll bet that these foam blocks weigh less than the three piece tire iron set
that was mentioned earlier, or the can of flat tire repair goop :)
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft www.grantstar.net
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On Mon, 3/14/16, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com"
<kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 10:37 AM
"
I
will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a tire pump. Even on a
certified172 I can take the wheel off the airplane with a medium Crescent wrench,
take the wheel apart with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube
or patch a tire, and get it back together to fly back home."
I just
carry a can of "spare tire" wrapped in bubble wrap in the back of my plane.
Larry
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 10:56 AM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
Yes, I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to hassle or trash-talk anyone
or their product. I do prefer not having to wrestle with someone just to
get an answer to my question, but regardless of the effort it takes to get
that answer my motives and agendas are positive and not negative.
My situation is that I want to fly extreme-STOL up in the mountains and desert.
I've been scouting several locations in my 172, and believe it or not
most of them are actually within 50 or 60 miles of the "big city"
limits. So it's not like I'm going out Grizzly bear bow hunting in the Aleutian
Islands or anything... but it's still way too far for me to just "walk into
town"
with a tire and wheel in my hands.
I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a tire pump. Even on
a certified172 I can take the wheel off the airplane with a medium Crescent
wrench, take the wheel apart with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube
or patch a tire, and get it back together to fly back home.
Bill Berle
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On Mon, 3/14/16, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com"
<kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 9:29 AM
I have three metal
tire irons that I carry with me. Less than 1 lb. for the set
and with a little water as lubricant they get the tire off a
one piece wheel just fine. It's breaking the bead
that's the trick and for that I just use a hammer with
one iron to get it started. It's not what I'd use at
home, but we're talking stranded in the outback with the
vultures circling. :-}
Rick Girard
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 9:16 AM, Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
wrote:
Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
The tires and wheels do look nice, and are likely a good
option if flying close to home.
However, it seems like you're missing his point.
He's talking about real 'bush' flying, away from
airports & service facilities. With conventional
2 piece
wheels, you could break them down with simple hand tools to
repair a flat, and a small hand pump to re-inflate.
But with
auto-style one piece wheels, it requires specialized
(heavy)
tools to break a tire down for repair. Not likely to be in a
tool kit you can carry in a Kolb or other very light
a/c.
Charlie
On 3/13/2016 11:19 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
Flyer" <joe.a.lawson@gmail.com>
Bill, I use a cheap harbor freight device for putting the
tires on, cost $49.95 I think.
Rick, The only tires that I sell are these that I have
pictures of and they fit on a 8 inch rims
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Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch
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