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1. 09:22 AM - Re: Re: Tires for your Firestar (Richard Girard)
2. 09:45 AM - Re: Re: Kolb tires (Richard Girard)
3. 09:50 AM - Re: Re: Tires for your Firestar (Bill Berle)
4. 01:10 PM - Re: Kolb tires (Rex Rodebush)
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| Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
you could also try this. I've never used it, can't make a recommendation.
https://www.zoro.com/3m-flexible-foam-nvh-08463/i/G0406463/?gdffi=047ada9
98cf641fa93e55ae8579df863&gdfms=5EA4232146CF4B229C255AAAF651CF33&gclid=
CPW8-dyLw8sCFQYIaQodCZwIjw&gclsrc=aw.ds
Lots of Youtube videos about using urethane foam to fill tires, too, but it
doesn't remain flexible so it'll crush up over time and make a mess in
something like an aircraft tire.
Rick
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
>
> Here's a potential game-changer solution right here...
>
> http://www.goldspeedproducts.com/shop/tire-blocks/
>
> These are foam inserts that allow you to run lower pressure and even run
> safely when punctured flat.
>
> I'll bet that these foam blocks weigh less than the three piece tire iron
> set that was mentioned earlier, or the can of flat tire repair goop :)
>
>
> Bill Berle
> www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
> www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and
> for-profit entities
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> On Mon, 3/14/16, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
> To: "kolb-list@matronics.com" <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 10:37 AM
>
> "
> I
> will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a tire
> pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off the
> airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel apart
> with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch a
> tire, and get it back together to fly back
> home."
>
> I just
> carry a can of "spare tire" wrapped in bubble wrap
> in the back of my plane.
> Larry
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
> at 10:56 AM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
> Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
>
>
> Yes, I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to
> hassle or trash-talk anyone or their product. I do prefer
> not having to wrestle with someone just to get an answer to
> my question, but regardless of the effort it takes to get
> that answer my motives and agendas are positive and not
> negative.
>
>
> My situation is that I want to fly extreme-STOL up in the
> mountains and desert. I've been scouting several
> locations in my 172, and believe it or not most of them are
> actually within 50 or 60 miles of the "big city"
> limits. So it's not like I'm going out Grizzly bear
> bow hunting in the Aleutian Islands or anything... but
> it's still way too far for me to just "walk into
> town" with a tire and wheel in my hands.
>
>
> I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a tire
> pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off the
> airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel apart
> with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch a
> tire, and get it back together to fly back home.
>
>
> Bill Berle
>
> --------------------------------------------
>
> On Mon, 3/14/16, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
>
> To: "kolb-list@matronics.com"
> <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>
> Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 9:29 AM
>
>
> I have three metal
>
> tire irons that I carry with me. Less than 1 lb. for the
> set
>
> and with a little water as lubricant they get the tire off
> a
>
> one piece wheel just fine. It's breaking the bead
>
> that's the trick and for that I just use a hammer
> with
>
> one iron to get it started. It's not what I'd use
> at
>
> home, but we're talking stranded in the outback with
> the
>
> vultures circling. :-}
>
> Rick Girard
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
>
> at 9:16 AM, Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
>
> wrote:
>
>
> Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
>
>
> The tires and wheels do look nice, and are likely a good
>
> option if flying close to home.
>
>
> However, it seems like you're missing his point.
>
> He's talking about real 'bush' flying, away
> from
>
> airports & service facilities. With conventional 2
> piece
>
> wheels, you could break them down with simple hand tools
> to
>
> repair a flat, and a small hand pump to re-inflate. But
> with
>
> auto-style one piece wheels, it requires specialized
> (heavy)
>
> tools to break a tire down for repair. Not likely to be in
> a
>
> tool kit you can carry in a Kolb or other very light
>
> a/c.
>
>
> Charlie
>
>
> On 3/13/2016 11:19 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
>
>
>
> Flyer" <joe.a.lawson@gmail.com>
>
>
> Bill, I use a cheap harbor freight device for putting
> the
>
> tires on, cost $49.95 I think.
>
>
> Rick, The only tires that I sell are these that I have
>
> pictures of and they fit on a 8 inch rims
>
>
> --------
>
>
> Kolb Firestar II
>
>
> 503 C-Box / RK400
>
>
> Soon to have a
>
>
> Rotax 670 DCDI
>
>
> with a C-Box and
>
>
> RK 400 Clutch
>
>
> Challenger II
>
>
> 503 Tall Drive
>
>
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Rex, the problem with this setup is you have a rigid caliper mount, a rigid
disk mount, and single action calipers. Where is the movement that allows
the caliper to squeeze the disk from both sides? My guess is that this is
why you weren't getting stopping and holding power.
I have a customer with Matco brakes on his Highlander, but they have slide
pins so the caliper can move to bring both inside and outside pucks to bear
on the disk.
My trike's brakes have slide pins for the disk instead, but the outcome is
the same and the caliper grips both sides of the disk.
Take a look at the disk brakes on almost all cars. They have single action
calipers mounted on slide pins so the caliper can grip both sides of the
disk.
Rick Girard
PS For builders out there. If you are getting ready to mount Matco brakes
with single action calipers think through where the brake dust is going and
mount the caliper so the slide pins are UPWIND of the pucks. If you don't
the dust turns the slide pin lube into lapping compound. The builder of the
Highlander didn't and my customer was going through brake pucks every 30
hours and having to replace disks every 60 hours. This on an airplane that
rarely sees a paved runway. At the last caliper rebuild I showed him the
problem and got him to let me reverse the caliper mounting. He's at 60
hours and the brake pucks show little wear.
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Rex Rodebush <jrrodebush@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have 8.00-6 tires and one Matco caliper was not enough. I added an
> additional newer Matco caliper on the existing wheels and now I can lock
a
> wheel to make a sharp turn and also hold tight at run up. See pictures.
>
> Rex
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=453759#453759
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| Subject: | Re: Tires for your Firestar |
I'm sure that the chemical type of foam is the key, because of exactly that problem...
getting less flexible over time and turning into a mess. I have no idea
for sure, but this may be a good application for some kind of foam made form
silicone rubber.
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
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On Tue, 3/15/16, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com" <kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2016, 9:21 AM
you could also try
this. I've never used it, can't make a
recommendation.
https://www.zoro.com/3m-flexible-foam-nvh-08463/i/G0406463/?gdffi=047ada998cf641fa93e55ae8579df863&gdfms=5EA4232146CF4B229C255AAAF651CF33&gclid=CPW8-dyLw8sCFQYIaQodCZwIjw&gclsrc=aw.ds
Lots of Youtube videos about using urethane foam
to fill tires, too, but it doesn't remain flexible so
it'll crush up over time and make a mess in something
like an aircraft tire.
Rick
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 1:08 PM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
Here's a potential game-changer solution right
here...
http://www.goldspeedproducts.com/shop/tire-blocks/
These are foam inserts that allow you to run lower pressure
and even run safely when punctured flat.
I'll bet that these foam blocks weigh less than the
three piece tire iron set that was mentioned earlier, or the
can of flat tire repair goop :)
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com
- safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net
- winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit
entities
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Larry Cottrell
<lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com"
<kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 10:37 AM
"
I
will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a
tire
pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off the
airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel
apart
with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch
a
tire, and get it back together to fly back
home."
I just
carry a can of "spare tire" wrapped in bubble
wrap
in the back of my plane.
Larry
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 10:56 AM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
Yes, I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to
hassle or trash-talk anyone or their product. I do prefer
not having to wrestle with someone just to get an answer
to
my question, but regardless of the effort it takes to get
that answer my motives and agendas are positive and not
negative.
My situation is that I want to fly extreme-STOL up in the
mountains and desert. I've been scouting several
locations in my 172, and believe it or not most of them
are
actually within 50 or 60 miles of the "big
city"
limits. So it's not like I'm going out Grizzly
bear
bow hunting in the Aleutian Islands or anything... but
it's still way too far for me to just "walk into
town" with a tire and wheel in my hands.
I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a
tire
pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off the
airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel
apart
with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch
a
tire, and get it back together to fly back home.
Bill Berle
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com"
<kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 9:29 AM
I have three metal
tire irons that I carry with me. Less than 1 lb. for
the
set
and with a little water as lubricant they get the tire
off
a
one piece wheel just fine. It's breaking the bead
that's the trick and for that I just use a hammer
with
one iron to get it started. It's not what I'd
use
at
home, but we're talking stranded in the outback
with
the
vultures circling. :-}
Rick Girard
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 9:16 AM, Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
wrote:
Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
The tires and wheels do look nice, and are likely a
good
option if flying close to home.
However, it seems like you're missing his point.
He's talking about real 'bush' flying, away
from
airports & service facilities. With conventional 2
piece
wheels, you could break them down with simple hand
tools
to
repair a flat, and a small hand pump to re-inflate. But
with
auto-style one piece wheels, it requires specialized
(heavy)
tools to break a tire down for repair. Not likely to be
in
a
tool kit you can carry in a Kolb or other very light
a/c.
Charlie
On 3/13/2016 11:19 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
Flyer" <joe.a.lawson@gmail.com>
Bill, I use a cheap harbor freight device for putting
the
tires on, cost $49.95 I think.
Rick, The only tires that I sell are these that I have
pictures of and they fit on a 8 inch rims
--------
Kolb Firestar II
503 C-Box / RK400
Soon to have a
Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch
Challenger II
503 Tall Drive
Location : Buffalo South Carolina
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The mechanical advantage is about 4.5:1 with the new design. I modified the brakes
to fit my feet as it was difficult not to ride the brakes while taxing.
The next time I'm at the airport I'll take some pictures of the new brake pedals
and also check if the calipers are dual acting. They are the Matco setup and
have not been changed. I assume they would be dual acting.
Rex
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