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1. 10:33 AM - Re: FireStar 2 Kit Received ! (Bill Berle)
2. 10:57 AM - Re: FireStar 2 Kit Received ! (Herb)
3. 12:04 PM - Fixing a Flat Tire (KIRBY, DENNIS T GS-13 USAF AFMC AFNWC/EZS)
4. 12:21 PM - Re: Fixing a Flat Tire (John Hauck)
5. 12:22 PM - Re: Fixing a Flat Tire (Larry Cottrell)
6. 12:33 PM - Re: Fixing a Flat Tire (Bill Berle)
7. 12:50 PM - Re: FireStar 2 Kit Received ! (Rick Neilsen)
8. 01:01 PM - Re: Fixing a Flat Tire (John Hauck)
9. 01:06 PM - Re: Firestar 2 Kit Received ! (John Hauck)
10. 01:07 PM - FW: FireStar 2 Kit Received ! (John Hauck)
11. 01:15 PM - Re: FireStar 2 Kit Received ! (Bill Berle)
12. 01:17 PM - Re: Fixing a Flat Tire (Rick Neilsen)
13. 01:27 PM - Re: FW: FireStar 2 Kit Received ! (Rick Neilsen)
14. 02:06 PM - Re: FW: FireStar 2 Kit Received ! (Bill Berle)
15. 02:17 PM - Re: Kolb tires (Rex Rodebush)
16. 02:26 PM - Re: FireStar 2 Kit Received ! (Dennis Rowe)
17. 03:37 PM - Re: FireStar 2 Kit Received ! (John Hauck)
18. 03:37 PM - Re: FW: FireStar 2 Kit Received ! (John Hauck)
19. 03:43 PM - Re: Re: Kolb tires (John Hauck)
20. 03:44 PM - Re: FireStar 2 Kit Received ! (Charlie England)
21. 03:55 PM - Re: FireStar 2 Kit Received ! (B Young)
22. 04:13 PM - Re: FireStar 2 Kit Received ! (Bill Berle)
23. 04:59 PM - Re: FireStar 2 Kit Received ! (Charlie England)
24. 07:09 PM - Re: New (free) Aviation App (gbrasch)
25. 07:30 PM - Re: Fixing a Flat Tire (Brad Nation)
26. 08:04 PM - Re: FW: FireStar 2 Kit Received ! (John Hauck)
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Subject: | Re: FireStar 2 Kit Received ! |
Well, the used FS2 kit that I had purchased has arrived! I picked it up form the
Yellow Freight terminal (YRC nowdays) last night. Got it back to my hangar,
and was able to spend a couple of hours unpacking most of it. I have not been
able to do a full inventory, because I do not have a full inventory sheet from
Kolb. But I have a lot of various airplane hardware floating around in my hangar
:)
One of the chimpanzees involved somewhere in the shipping crushed two or three
small tubes in the horizontal stabilizers.
The fuselage cage had been hand-painted with white brush-on house paint or something.
I'm thankful for that, because there is only minor corrosion in the form
of brown stains in the white paint, and no serious pitting. I will eventually
have it blasted and re-primed or powder coated. Any suggestions, warnings, or
experience good or bad with powder coating and steel priming is welcome.
The kit came with brownish-red plastic wheels and 15 x 6.00 x 6 tires. Alumuinum
gear legs, short windshield, one gas can. It is serial number FS-636, the instruction
manual is dated 1996.
The aluminum tube for the tailboom ("fuselage tube" in Kolb language) had apparently
been accidentally drilled for the wing ribs, because the original builder
did not realize the tubes were different. So I may be able to salvage it, repair
it, or plug the holes with "Dead" rivets. Or, I may have to replace the tube.
I will be using 4 stroke power on this, as I have mentioned previously. Dagwodzz
has been very kind to spend some quality time with me on the phone educating
me about V-twins. Thank you Dagz! I am also looking at the absolutely beautiful
Pegasus Power O-100 engine from Pete Plumb in California. I have seen this
engine run in person and was very very impressed.
If anyone can point me to specific articles or archives on this list regarding
technical errors in the plans or instructions, or common problems building the
FireStar, Again I am happy to hear about it.
I have several minor and medium size modifications and tweaks that I am looking
into on this airplane. Some of them are aerodynamic (raked tips, VG's, etc.),
some of them are engine related (4 stroke), and some of them are mechanical (aircraft
quality hardware and fasteners wherever possible... I have this stuff
laying around).
Glad to be a brand new, green, wet-behind-the-ears Kolber !
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 3/15/16, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com" <kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2016, 9:21 AM
you could also try
this. I've never used it, can't make a
recommendation.
https://www.zoro.com/3m-flexible-foam-nvh-08463/i/G0406463/?gdffi=047ada998cf641fa93e55ae8579df863&gdfms=5EA4232146CF4B229C255AAAF651CF33&gclid=CPW8-dyLw8sCFQYIaQodCZwIjw&gclsrc=aw.ds
Lots of Youtube videos about using urethane foam
to fill tires, too, but it doesn't remain flexible so
it'll crush up over time and make a mess in something
like an aircraft tire.
Rick
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 1:08 PM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
Here's a potential game-changer solution right
here...
http://www.goldspeedproducts.com/shop/tire-blocks/
These are foam inserts that allow you to run lower pressure
and even run safely when punctured flat.
I'll bet that these foam blocks weigh less than the
three piece tire iron set that was mentioned earlier, or the
can of flat tire repair goop :)
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com
- safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net
- winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit
entities
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Larry Cottrell
<lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com"
<kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 10:37 AM
"
I
will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a
tire
pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off the
airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel
apart
with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch
a
tire, and get it back together to fly back
home."
I just
carry a can of "spare tire" wrapped in bubble
wrap
in the back of my plane.
Larry
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 10:56 AM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
Yes, I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to
hassle or trash-talk anyone or their product. I do prefer
not having to wrestle with someone just to get an answer
to
my question, but regardless of the effort it takes to get
that answer my motives and agendas are positive and not
negative.
My situation is that I want to fly extreme-STOL up in the
mountains and desert. I've been scouting several
locations in my 172, and believe it or not most of them
are
actually within 50 or 60 miles of the "big
city"
limits. So it's not like I'm going out Grizzly
bear
bow hunting in the Aleutian Islands or anything... but
it's still way too far for me to just "walk into
town" with a tire and wheel in my hands.
I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a
tire
pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off the
airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel
apart
with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch
a
tire, and get it back together to fly back home.
Bill Berle
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com"
<kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 9:29 AM
I have three metal
tire irons that I carry with me. Less than 1 lb. for
the
set
and with a little water as lubricant they get the tire
off
a
one piece wheel just fine. It's breaking the bead
that's the trick and for that I just use a hammer
with
one iron to get it started. It's not what I'd
use
at
home, but we're talking stranded in the outback
with
the
vultures circling. :-}
Rick Girard
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 9:16 AM, Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
wrote:
Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
The tires and wheels do look nice, and are likely a
good
option if flying close to home.
However, it seems like you're missing his point.
He's talking about real 'bush' flying, away
from
airports & service facilities. With conventional 2
piece
wheels, you could break them down with simple hand
tools
to
repair a flat, and a small hand pump to re-inflate. But
with
auto-style one piece wheels, it requires specialized
(heavy)
tools to break a tire down for repair. Not likely to be
in
a
tool kit you can carry in a Kolb or other very light
a/c.
Charlie
On 3/13/2016 11:19 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
Flyer" <joe.a.lawson@gmail.com>
Bill, I use a cheap harbor freight device for putting
the
tires on, cost $49.95 I think.
Rick, The only tires that I sell are these that I have
pictures of and they fit on a 8 inch rims
--------
Kolb Firestar II
503 C-Box / RK400
Soon to have a
Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch
Challenger II
503 Tall Drive
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Subject: | Re: FireStar 2 Kit Received ! |
Ouch...that boom tube is 500 bucks at Kolb.... last I checked....they
get it in 20 ft lengths and it does them no good to cut to size when
selling parts...Herb
On 03/16/2016 12:33 PM, Bill Berle wrote:
>
> Well, the used FS2 kit that I had purchased has arrived! I picked it up form
the Yellow Freight terminal (YRC nowdays) last night. Got it back to my hangar,
and was able to spend a couple of hours unpacking most of it. I have not been
able to do a full inventory, because I do not have a full inventory sheet from
Kolb. But I have a lot of various airplane hardware floating around in my hangar
:)
>
> One of the chimpanzees involved somewhere in the shipping crushed two or three
small tubes in the horizontal stabilizers.
>
> The fuselage cage had been hand-painted with white brush-on house paint or something.
I'm thankful for that, because there is only minor corrosion in the form
of brown stains in the white paint, and no serious pitting. I will eventually
have it blasted and re-primed or powder coated. Any suggestions, warnings,
or experience good or bad with powder coating and steel priming is welcome.
>
> The kit came with brownish-red plastic wheels and 15 x 6.00 x 6 tires. Alumuinum
gear legs, short windshield, one gas can. It is serial number FS-636, the
instruction manual is dated 1996.
>
> The aluminum tube for the tailboom ("fuselage tube" in Kolb language) had apparently
been accidentally drilled for the wing ribs, because the original builder
did not realize the tubes were different. So I may be able to salvage it,
repair it, or plug the holes with "Dead" rivets. Or, I may have to replace the
tube.
>
> I will be using 4 stroke power on this, as I have mentioned previously. Dagwodzz
has been very kind to spend some quality time with me on the phone educating
me about V-twins. Thank you Dagz! I am also looking at the absolutely beautiful
Pegasus Power O-100 engine from Pete Plumb in California. I have seen this
engine run in person and was very very impressed.
>
> If anyone can point me to specific articles or archives on this list regarding
technical errors in the plans or instructions, or common problems building the
FireStar, Again I am happy to hear about it.
>
> I have several minor and medium size modifications and tweaks that I am looking
into on this airplane. Some of them are aerodynamic (raked tips, VG's, etc.),
some of them are engine related (4 stroke), and some of them are mechanical
(aircraft quality hardware and fasteners wherever possible... I have this stuff
laying around).
>
> Glad to be a brand new, green, wet-behind-the-ears Kolber !
>
>
> Bill Berle
> www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
> www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Tue, 3/15/16, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
> To: "kolb-list@matronics.com" <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2016, 9:21 AM
>
> you could also try
> this. I've never used it, can't make a
> recommendation.
> https://www.zoro.com/3m-flexible-foam-nvh-08463/i/G0406463/?gdffi=047ada998cf641fa93e55ae8579df863&gdfms=5EA4232146CF4B229C255AAAF651CF33&gclid=CPW8-dyLw8sCFQYIaQodCZwIjw&gclsrc=aw.ds
>
> Lots of Youtube videos about using urethane foam
> to fill tires, too, but it doesn't remain flexible so
> it'll crush up over time and make a mess in something
> like an aircraft tire.
> Rick
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
> at 1:08 PM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
> Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
>
>
>
> Here's a potential game-changer solution right
> here...
>
>
>
> http://www.goldspeedproducts.com/shop/tire-blocks/
>
>
>
> These are foam inserts that allow you to run lower pressure
> and even run safely when punctured flat.
>
>
>
> I'll bet that these foam blocks weigh less than the
> three piece tire iron set that was mentioned earlier, or the
> can of flat tire repair goop :)
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill Berle
>
> www.ezflaphandle.com
> - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
>
> www.grantstar.net
> - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit
> entities
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------
>
> On Mon, 3/14/16, Larry Cottrell
> <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
>
> To: "kolb-list@matronics.com"
> <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>
> Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 10:37 AM
>
>
>
> "
>
> I
>
> will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a
> tire
>
> pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off the
>
> airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel
> apart
>
> with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch
> a
>
> tire, and get it back together to fly back
>
> home."
>
>
>
> I just
>
> carry a can of "spare tire" wrapped in bubble
> wrap
>
> in the back of my plane.
>
> Larry
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
>
> at 10:56 AM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
>
> wrote:
>
>
> Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yes, I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to
>
> hassle or trash-talk anyone or their product. I do prefer
>
> not having to wrestle with someone just to get an answer
> to
>
> my question, but regardless of the effort it takes to get
>
> that answer my motives and agendas are positive and not
>
> negative.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> My situation is that I want to fly extreme-STOL up in the
>
> mountains and desert. I've been scouting several
>
> locations in my 172, and believe it or not most of them
> are
>
> actually within 50 or 60 miles of the "big
> city"
>
> limits. So it's not like I'm going out Grizzly
> bear
>
> bow hunting in the Aleutian Islands or anything... but
>
> it's still way too far for me to just "walk into
>
> town" with a tire and wheel in my hands.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a
> tire
>
> pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off the
>
> airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel
> apart
>
> with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch
> a
>
> tire, and get it back together to fly back home.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill Berle
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> On Mon, 3/14/16, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
>
>
>
> To: "kolb-list@matronics.com"
>
> <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>
>
>
> Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 9:29 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I have three metal
>
>
>
> tire irons that I carry with me. Less than 1 lb. for
> the
>
> set
>
>
>
> and with a little water as lubricant they get the tire
> off
>
> a
>
>
>
> one piece wheel just fine. It's breaking the bead
>
>
>
> that's the trick and for that I just use a hammer
>
> with
>
>
>
> one iron to get it started. It's not what I'd
> use
>
> at
>
>
>
> home, but we're talking stranded in the outback
> with
>
> the
>
>
>
> vultures circling. :-}
>
>
>
> Rick Girard
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
>
>
>
> at 9:16 AM, Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
>
>
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The tires and wheels do look nice, and are likely a
> good
>
>
>
> option if flying close to home.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> However, it seems like you're missing his point.
>
>
>
> He's talking about real 'bush' flying, away
>
> from
>
>
>
> airports & service facilities. With conventional 2
>
> piece
>
>
>
> wheels, you could break them down with simple hand
> tools
>
> to
>
>
>
> repair a flat, and a small hand pump to re-inflate. But
>
> with
>
>
>
> auto-style one piece wheels, it requires specialized
>
> (heavy)
>
>
>
> tools to break a tire down for repair. Not likely to be
> in
>
> a
>
>
>
> tool kit you can carry in a Kolb or other very light
>
>
>
> a/c.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Charlie
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 3/13/2016 11:19 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Flyer" <joe.a.lawson@gmail.com>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill, I use a cheap harbor freight device for putting
>
> the
>
>
>
> tires on, cost $49.95 I think.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Rick, The only tires that I sell are these that I have
>
>
>
> pictures of and they fit on a 8 inch rims
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --------
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Kolb Firestar II
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 503 C-Box / RK400
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Soon to have a
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Rotax 670 DCDI
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> with a C-Box and
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> RK 400 Clutch
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Challenger II
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 503 Tall Drive
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Location : Buffalo South Carolina
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Fixing a Flat Tire |
Bill Berle wrote: << I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a tire
pump. I can take the wheel off the airplane with a medium Crescent wrench,
take the wheel apart with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch
a tire, and get it back together to fly back home. >
Bill / Kolb Friends -
I, too, travel with tire changing tools in my Mark-3 when I go backcountry flying.
As Bill describes above, I am able to remove and take apart my split rims
and patch (or replace) the inner tube.
But what about using "Fix-a-Flat" for the solution? Does anyone have experience
blasting this goop into their Kolb inner tubes to remedy a flat tire? Seems
a lot lighter and easier, and you don't need the tire pump.
Pros? Cons?
Dennis Kirby
Mark-3
New Mexico
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Subject: | Fixing a Flat Tire |
John W and also Bruce Chaisson repaired flats on the Kolbra and MKIII at MV
with Fix A Flat in a can. It worked.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of KIRBY, DENNIS T
GS-13 USAF AFMC AFNWC/EZS
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 2:04 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Fixing a Flat Tire
--> AFNWC/EZS" <dennis.kirby.3@us.af.mil>
Bill Berle wrote: << I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a
tire pump. I can take the wheel off the airplane with a medium Crescent
wrench, take the wheel apart with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner
tube or patch a tire, and get it back together to fly back home. >
Bill / Kolb Friends -
I, too, travel with tire changing tools in my Mark-3 when I go backcountry
flying. As Bill describes above, I am able to remove and take apart my
split rims and patch (or replace) the inner tube.
But what about using "Fix-a-Flat" for the solution? Does anyone have
experience blasting this goop into their Kolb inner tubes to remedy a flat
tire? Seems a lot lighter and easier, and you don't need the tire pump.
Pros? Cons?
Dennis Kirby
Mark-3
New Mexico
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Subject: | Re: Fixing a Flat Tire |
But what about using "Fix-a-Flat" for the solution? Does anyone have
experience blasting this goop into their Kolb inner tubes to remedy a flat
tire? Seems a lot lighter and easier, and you don't need the tire pump.
Pros? Cons?
Dennis Kirby
Mark-3
New Mexico
I have carried a can of"Spare tire" or fix a flat in my plane for about 12
years. I have never needed it, but its there when I do. Perhaps I should
check the expiration date?
Larry
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 1:03 PM, KIRBY, DENNIS T GS-13 USAF AFMC AFNWC/EZS <
dennis.kirby.3@us.af.mil> wrote:
> AFNWC/EZS" <dennis.kirby.3@us.af.mil>
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> Bill Berle wrote: << I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and
> a tire pump. I can take the wheel off the airplane with a medium Crescent
> wrench,
> take the wheel apart with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or
> patch
> a tire, and get it back together to fly back home. >
>
>
> Bill / Kolb Friends -
>
> I, too, travel with tire changing tools in my Mark-3 when I go backcountry
> flying. As Bill describes above, I am able to remove and take apart my
> split rims and patch (or replace) the inner tube.
>
> But what about using "Fix-a-Flat" for the solution? Does anyone have
> experience blasting this goop into their Kolb inner tubes to remedy a flat
> tire? Seems a lot lighter and easier, and you don't need the tire pump.
>
> Pros? Cons?
>
> Dennis Kirby
> Mark-3
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The effectiveness of Fix-a-Flat will clearly depend on the damage to the tire or
tube. Bullhead thorn, no problem. Lava rock through the sidewall... problem
:)
It appears to me that if there is any kind of run-flat wheel/tire out there that
is light enough to not cause a weight issue, it is probably well worth the extra
money. Being well-versed in Murphy's Law and the Law of Applied Entropy I
can guarantee that any punctured flat tire event will happen less than 30 minutes
before sunset !
Bill Berle
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On Wed, 3/16/16, KIRBY, DENNIS T GS-13 USAF AFMC AFNWC/EZS <dennis.kirby.3@us.af.mil>
wrote:
Subject: Kolb-List: Fixing a Flat Tire
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com" <kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 16, 2016, 12:03 PM
"KIRBY, DENNIS T GS-13 USAF AFMC AFNWC/EZS" <dennis.kirby.3@us.af.mil>
Bill Berle wrote: << I will have a small lightweight
tool kit with me, and a tire pump. I can take the wheel off
the airplane with a medium Crescent wrench,
take the wheel apart with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an
inner tube or patch
a tire, and get it back together to fly back home. >
Bill / Kolb Friends -
I, too, travel with tire changing tools in my Mark-3 when I
go backcountry flying. As Bill describes above, I am
able to remove and take apart my split rims and patch (or
replace) the inner tube.
But what about using "Fix-a-Flat" for the solution?
Does anyone have experience blasting this goop into their
Kolb inner tubes to remedy a flat tire? Seems a lot
lighter and easier, and you don't need the tire pump.
Pros? Cons?
Dennis Kirby
Mark-3
New Mexico
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Subject: | Re: FireStar 2 Kit Received ! |
Bill
Consider that new engine very carefully. I'm speaking from experience. I
was the first to put a VW on a Kolb. It is a big undertaking. First the Peg
asus
Power O-100 engine uses a difocal mount and kolbs have a bed type mount. I
had to fabricate a custom mount for the VW. I had help as GP Aircraft made
a prop end mount that made it easier. You will have to fabricate a custom
exhaust system. You will need to enter the black science of prop selection.
You may like magnetos but I don't, they are heavy, expensive, under
powered, and there is a reason they come in pairs. Now the real tough
stuff, the engine is still in development. You will be the test pilot for
not just the engine installation but for the engine too.
Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to talk you out of it but do not
underestimate the task you will be taking on. I spent one extra year
installing my VW. Then I changed to a redrive VW engine. Then I had a
redrive failure. Then I fabricated a new lower engine mount. Five years
later I was still tweaking exhaust systems, Props, carb settings, and
redrive ratios. Eighteen years later I'm still battling engine noise - the
engine mount transmits too much vibration noise to the airframe. One of my
high engine mounts had a soft enough mount that was very smooth and quiet
but chewed up engine mounting bushings/dampers.
One more thing, engine builders overestimate power and underestimate weight
and price.
It could be a worthy challenge but are you up to it?
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
>
> Well, the used FS2 kit that I had purchased has arrived! I picked it up
> form the Yellow Freight terminal (YRC nowdays) last night. Got it back to
> my hangar, and was able to spend a couple of hours unpacking most of it.
I
> have not been able to do a full inventory, because I do not have a full
> inventory sheet from Kolb. But I have a lot of various airplane hardware
> floating around in my hangar :)
>
> One of the chimpanzees involved somewhere in the shipping crushed two or
> three small tubes in the horizontal stabilizers.
>
> The fuselage cage had been hand-painted with white brush-on house paint o
r
> something. I'm thankful for that, because there is only minor corrosion i
n
> the form of brown stains in the white paint, and no serious pitting. I wi
ll
> eventually have it blasted and re-primed or powder coated. Any suggestion
s,
> warnings, or experience good or bad with powder coating and steel priming
> is welcome.
>
> The kit came with brownish-red plastic wheels and 15 x 6.00 x 6 tires.
> Alumuinum gear legs, short windshield, one gas can. It is serial number
> FS-636, the instruction manual is dated 1996.
>
> The aluminum tube for the tailboom ("fuselage tube" in Kolb language) had
> apparently been accidentally drilled for the wing ribs, because the
> original builder did not realize the tubes were different. So I may be ab
le
> to salvage it, repair it, or plug the holes with "Dead" rivets. Or, I may
> have to replace the tube.
>
> I will be using 4 stroke power on this, as I have mentioned previously.
> Dagwodzz has been very kind to spend some quality time with me on the pho
ne
> educating me about V-twins. Thank you Dagz! I am also looking at the
> absolutely beautiful Pegasus Power O-100 engine from Pete Plumb in
> California. I have seen this engine run in person and was very very
> impressed.
>
> If anyone can point me to specific articles or archives on this list
> regarding technical errors in the plans or instructions, or common proble
ms
> building the FireStar, Again I am happy to hear about it.
>
> I have several minor and medium size modifications and tweaks that I am
> looking into on this airplane. Some of them are aerodynamic (raked tips,
> VG's, etc.), some of them are engine related (4 stroke), and some of them
> are mechanical (aircraft quality hardware and fasteners wherever
> possible... I have this stuff laying around).
>
> Glad to be a brand new, green, wet-behind-the-ears Kolber !
>
>
> Bill Berle
> www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
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> for-profit entities
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Tue, 3/15/16, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
> To: "kolb-list@matronics.com" <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2016, 9:21 AM
>
> you could also try
> this. I've never used it, can't make a
> recommendation.
>
> https://www.zoro.com/3m-flexible-foam-nvh-08463/i/G0406463/?gdffi=047ad
a998cf641fa93e55ae8579df863&gdfms=5EA4232146CF4B229C255AAAF651CF33&gclid
=CPW8-dyLw8sCFQYIaQodCZwIjw&gclsrc=aw.ds
>
> Lots of Youtube videos about using urethane foam
> to fill tires, too, but it doesn't remain flexible so
> it'll crush up over time and make a mess in something
> like an aircraft tire.
> Rick
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
> at 1:08 PM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
> Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
>
>
> Here's a potential game-changer solution right
> here...
>
>
> http://www.goldspeedproducts.com/shop/tire-blocks/
>
>
> These are foam inserts that allow you to run lower pressure
> and even run safely when punctured flat.
>
>
> I'll bet that these foam blocks weigh less than the
> three piece tire iron set that was mentioned earlier, or the
> can of flat tire repair goop :)
>
>
> Bill Berle
>
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> On Mon, 3/14/16, Larry Cottrell
> <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
>
> To: "kolb-list@matronics.com"
> <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>
> Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 10:37 AM
>
>
> "
>
> I
>
> will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a
> tire
>
> pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off the
>
> airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel
> apart
>
> with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch
> a
>
> tire, and get it back together to fly back
>
> home."
>
>
> I just
>
> carry a can of "spare tire" wrapped in bubble
> wrap
>
> in the back of my plane.
>
> Larry
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
>
> at 10:56 AM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
>
> wrote:
>
>
> Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
>
>
> Yes, I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to
>
> hassle or trash-talk anyone or their product. I do prefer
>
> not having to wrestle with someone just to get an answer
> to
>
> my question, but regardless of the effort it takes to get
>
> that answer my motives and agendas are positive and not
>
> negative.
>
>
> My situation is that I want to fly extreme-STOL up in the
>
> mountains and desert. I've been scouting several
>
> locations in my 172, and believe it or not most of them
> are
>
> actually within 50 or 60 miles of the "big
> city"
>
> limits. So it's not like I'm going out Grizzly
> bear
>
> bow hunting in the Aleutian Islands or anything... but
>
> it's still way too far for me to just "walk into
>
> town" with a tire and wheel in my hands.
>
>
> I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a
> tire
>
> pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off the
>
> airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel
> apart
>
> with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch
> a
>
> tire, and get it back together to fly back home.
>
>
> Bill Berle
>
>
> --------------------------------------------
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>
> On Mon, 3/14/16, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
>
> wrote:
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> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
>
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> To: "kolb-list@matronics.com"
>
> <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>
>
> Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 9:29 AM
>
>
> I have three metal
>
>
> tire irons that I carry with me. Less than 1 lb. for
> the
>
> set
>
>
> and with a little water as lubricant they get the tire
> off
>
> a
>
>
> one piece wheel just fine. It's breaking the bead
>
>
> that's the trick and for that I just use a hammer
>
> with
>
>
> one iron to get it started. It's not what I'd
> use
>
> at
>
>
> home, but we're talking stranded in the outback
> with
>
> the
>
>
> vultures circling. :-}
>
>
> Rick Girard
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
>
>
> at 9:16 AM, Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
>
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
>
>
> The tires and wheels do look nice, and are likely a
> good
>
>
> option if flying close to home.
>
>
> However, it seems like you're missing his point.
>
>
> He's talking about real 'bush' flying, away
>
> from
>
>
> airports & service facilities. With conventional 2
>
> piece
>
>
> wheels, you could break them down with simple hand
> tools
>
> to
>
>
> repair a flat, and a small hand pump to re-inflate. But
>
> with
>
>
> auto-style one piece wheels, it requires specialized
>
> (heavy)
>
>
> tools to break a tire down for repair. Not likely to be
> in
>
> a
>
>
> tool kit you can carry in a Kolb or other very light
>
>
> a/c.
>
>
> Charlie
>
>
> On 3/13/2016 11:19 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Flyer" <joe.a.lawson@gmail.com>
>
>
> Bill, I use a cheap harbor freight device for putting
>
> the
>
>
> tires on, cost $49.95 I think.
>
>
> Rick, The only tires that I sell are these that I have
>
>
> pictures of and they fit on a 8 inch rims
>
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Subject: | Fixing a Flat Tire |
2004, landed at Fort Nelson Airport, BC, right after sun down. Went in the FBO
to see about fuel. When I walked back out to the MKIII, a main tire was flat.
Earlier I had experienced a main tire flat on the bank of the Knik River south
of Palmer, AK. Only tube I could find with a 90 degree valve stem was in Lowes.
It was for a wheel barrow. That is something like a 400X6, in an 800X6 tire.
I flew the Kenai Peninsula to Seldovia, over to McCarthy, north to Dead
Horse/Prudhoe Bay, Kaktovik, Point Barrow, AK, Tuktoyaktuk, Northwest Territory,
and south to Fort Nelson before the tube failed. Found a patch, and with the
help of a local motorcycle gang, that had a hanger at the airport, put a fix
on the tube, then flew the rest of the way home to Alabama. There are places
I landed off airports to wait out weather that had no help should that tire
go flat. The Man was watching out for me. ;-)
Murphy never strikes when it is convenient for the victim.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Berle
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fixing a Flat Tire
The effectiveness of Fix-a-Flat will clearly depend on the damage to the tire or
tube. Bullhead thorn, no problem. Lava rock through the sidewall... problem
:)
It appears to me that if there is any kind of run-flat wheel/tire out there that
is light enough to not cause a weight issue, it is probably well worth the extra
money. Being well-versed in Murphy's Law and the Law of Applied Entropy I
can guarantee that any punctured flat tire event will happen less than 30 minutes
before sunset !
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 3/16/16, KIRBY, DENNIS T GS-13 USAF AFMC AFNWC/EZS <dennis.kirby.3@us.af.mil>
wrote:
Subject: Kolb-List: Fixing a Flat Tire
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com" <kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 16, 2016, 12:03 PM
"KIRBY, DENNIS T GS-13 USAF AFMC AFNWC/EZS" <dennis.kirby.3@us.af.mil>
Bill Berle wrote: << I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a
tire pump. I can take the wheel off the airplane with a medium Crescent wrench,
take the wheel apart with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or
patch a tire, and get it back together to fly back home. >
Bill / Kolb Friends -
I, too, travel with tire changing tools in my Mark-3 when I go backcountry flying.
As Bill describes above, I am able to remove and take apart my split rims
and patch (or
replace) the inner tube.
But what about using "Fix-a-Flat" for the solution? Does anyone have experience
blasting this goop into their Kolb inner tubes to remedy a flat tire? Seems
a lot lighter and easier, and you don't need the tire pump.
Pros? Cons?
Dennis Kirby
Mark-3
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Subject: | Firestar 2 Kit Received ! |
Very valid points from a man who has been there and done that, and seems
to still be doing it.
After considering where I fly and how unforgiving gravity is, I go with
the best, proven, engine I can find for my aircraft.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Neilsen
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireStar 2 Kit Received !
Bill
Consider that new engine very carefully. I'm speaking from experience. I
was the first to put a VW on a Kolb. It is a big undertaking. First the
Pegasus Power O-100 engine uses a difocal mount and kolbs have a bed
type mount. I had to fabricate a custom mount for the VW. I had help as
GP Aircraft made a prop end mount that made it easier. You will have to
fabricate a custom exhaust system. You will need to enter the black
science of prop selection. You may like magnetos but I don't, they are
heavy, expensive, under powered, and there is a reason they come in
pairs. Now the real tough stuff, the engine is still in development. You
will be the test pilot for not just the engine installation but for the
engine too.
Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to talk you out of it but do not
underestimate the task you will be taking on. I spent one extra year
installing my VW. Then I changed to a redrive VW engine. Then I had a
redrive failure. Then I fabricated a new lower engine mount. Five years
later I was still tweaking exhaust systems, Props, carb settings, and
redrive ratios. Eighteen years later I'm still battling engine noise -
the engine mount transmits too much vibration noise to the airframe. One
of my high engine mounts had a soft enough mount that was very smooth
and quiet but chewed up engine mounting bushings/dampers.
One more thing, engine builders overestimate power and underestimate
weight and price.
It could be a worthy challenge but are you up to it?
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Well, the used FS2 kit that I had purchased has arrived! I picked it up
form the Yellow Freight terminal (YRC nowdays) last night. Got it back
to my hangar, and was able to spend a couple of hours unpacking most of
it. I have not been able to do a full inventory, because I do not have a
full inventory sheet from Kolb. But I have a lot of various airplane
hardware floating around in my hangar :)
One of the chimpanzees involved somewhere in the shipping crushed two or
three small tubes in the horizontal stabilizers.
The fuselage cage had been hand-painted with white brush-on house paint
or something. I'm thankful for that, because there is only minor
corrosion in the form of brown stains in the white paint, and no serious
pitting. I will eventually have it blasted and re-primed or powder
coated. Any suggestions, warnings, or experience good or bad with powder
coating and steel priming is welcome.
The kit came with brownish-red plastic wheels and 15 x 6.00 x 6 tires.
Alumuinum gear legs, short windshield, one gas can. It is serial number
FS-636, the instruction manual is dated 1996.
The aluminum tube for the tailboom ("fuselage tube" in Kolb language)
had apparently been accidentally drilled for the wing ribs, because the
original builder did not realize the tubes were different. So I may be
able to salvage it, repair it, or plug the holes with "Dead" rivets. Or,
I may have to replace the tube.
I will be using 4 stroke power on this, as I have mentioned previously.
Dagwodzz has been very kind to spend some quality time with me on the
phone educating me about V-twins. Thank you Dagz! I am also looking at
the absolutely beautiful Pegasus Power O-100 engine from Pete Plumb in
California. I have seen this engine run in person and was very very
impressed.
If anyone can point me to specific articles or archives on this list
regarding technical errors in the plans or instructions, or common
problems building the FireStar, Again I am happy to hear about it.
I have several minor and medium size modifications and tweaks that I am
looking into on this airplane. Some of them are aerodynamic (raked tips,
VG's, etc.), some of them are engine related (4 stroke), and some of
them are mechanical (aircraft quality hardware and fasteners wherever
possible... I have this stuff laying around).
Glad to be a brand new, green, wet-behind-the-ears Kolber !
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and
for-profit entities
--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 3/15/16, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com" <kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2016, 9:21 AM
you could also try
this. I've never used it, can't make a
recommendation.
https://www.zoro.com/3m-flexible-foam-nvh-08463/i/G0406463/?gdffi=047ad
a998cf641fa93e55ae8579df863
<https://www.zoro.com/3m-flexible-foam-nvh-08463/i/G0406463/?gdffi=047a
da998cf641fa93e55ae8579df863&gdfms=5EA4232146CF4B229C255AAAF651CF33&gcl
id=CPW8-dyLw8sCFQYIaQodCZwIjw&gclsrc=aw.ds>
&gdfms=5EA4232146CF4B229C255AAAF651CF33&gclid=CPW8-dyLw8sCFQYIaQodCZw
Ijw&gclsrc=aw.ds
Lots of Youtube videos about using urethane foam
to fill tires, too, but it doesn't remain flexible so
it'll crush up over time and make a mess in something
like an aircraft tire.
Rick
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 1:08 PM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
Here's a potential game-changer solution right
here...
http://www.goldspeedproducts.com/shop/tire-blocks/
These are foam inserts that allow you to run lower pressure
and even run safely when punctured flat.
I'll bet that these foam blocks weigh less than the
three piece tire iron set that was mentioned earlier, or the
can of flat tire repair goop :)
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com
- safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net
- winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit
entities
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Larry Cottrell
<lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com"
<kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 10:37 AM
"
I
will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a
tire
pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off the
airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel
apart
with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch
a
tire, and get it back together to fly back
home."
I just
carry a can of "spare tire" wrapped in bubble
wrap
in the back of my plane.
Larry
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 10:56 AM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
Yes, I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to
hassle or trash-talk anyone or their product. I do prefer
not having to wrestle with someone just to get an answer
to
my question, but regardless of the effort it takes to get
that answer my motives and agendas are positive and not
negative.
My situation is that I want to fly extreme-STOL up in the
mountains and desert. I've been scouting several
locations in my 172, and believe it or not most of them
are
actually within 50 or 60 miles of the "big
city"
limits. So it's not like I'm going out Grizzly
bear
bow hunting in the Aleutian Islands or anything... but
it's still way too far for me to just "walk into
town" with a tire and wheel in my hands.
I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a
tire
pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off the
airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel
apart
with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch
a
tire, and get it back together to fly back home.
Bill Berle
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com"
<kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 9:29 AM
I have three metal
tire irons that I carry with me. Less than 1 lb. for
the
set
and with a little water as lubricant they get the tire
off
a
one piece wheel just fine. It's breaking the bead
that's the trick and for that I just use a hammer
with
one iron to get it started. It's not what I'd
use
at
home, but we're talking stranded in the outback
with
the
vultures circling. :-}
Rick Girard
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 9:16 AM, Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
wrote:
Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
The tires and wheels do look nice, and are likely a
good
option if flying close to home.
However, it seems like you're missing his point.
He's talking about real 'bush' flying, away
from
airports & service facilities. With conventional 2
piece
wheels, you could break them down with simple hand
tools
to
repair a flat, and a small hand pump to re-inflate. But
with
auto-style one piece wheels, it requires specialized
(heavy)
tools to break a tire down for repair. Not likely to be
in
a
tool kit you can carry in a Kolb or other very light
a/c.
Charlie
On 3/13/2016 11:19 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
Flyer" <joe.a.lawson@gmail.com>
Bill, I use a cheap harbor freight device for putting
the
tires on, cost $49.95 I think.
Rick, The only tires that I sell are these that I have
pictures of and they fit on a 8 inch rims
--------
Kolb Firestar II
503 C-Box / RK400
Soon to have a
Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch
Challenger II
503 Tall Drive
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Subject: | FireStar 2 Kit Received ! |
Homer Kolb designed his wing for a reason. It works.
I have never, in 32 years changed the outside dimensions of an
Ultrastar, Firestar, or MKIII wing. They work for me.
Plastic wheels don't even make good paper weights.
A varmint decided to taste the fabric on the right main gear of my
MKIII. We just completely rebuilt, fabric and paint, both main gear a
year ago. I'd shoot him is I could find him. Have no idea what it was.
I was over at Gantt International Airport yesterday taking photos of
the damage. Took a couple extra of the environment over there. My
little piece of heaven.
Spring has sprung at hauck's holler. The weeds have sprouted. One can
watch them grow they are so fast. Spring is my favorite season.
Everything is already covered with pollen. ;-)
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Berle
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireStar 2 Kit Received !
Well, the used FS2 kit that I had purchased has arrived! I picked it up
form the Yellow Freight terminal (YRC nowdays) last night. Got it back
to my hangar, and was able to spend a couple of hours unpacking most of
it. I have not been able to do a full inventory, because I do not have a
full inventory sheet from Kolb. But I have a lot of various airplane
hardware floating around in my hangar :)
One of the chimpanzees involved somewhere in the shipping crushed two or
three small tubes in the horizontal stabilizers.
The fuselage cage had been hand-painted with white brush-on house paint
or something. I'm thankful for that, because there is only minor
corrosion in the form of brown stains in the white paint, and no serious
pitting. I will eventually have it blasted and re-primed or powder
coated. Any suggestions, warnings, or experience good or bad with powder
coating and steel priming is welcome.
The kit came with brownish-red plastic wheels and 15 x 6.00 x 6 tires.
Alumuinum gear legs, short windshield, one gas can. It is serial number
FS-636, the instruction manual is dated 1996.
The aluminum tube for the tailboom ("fuselage tube" in Kolb language)
had apparently been accidentally drilled for the wing ribs, because the
original builder did not realize the tubes were different. So I may be
able to salvage it, repair it, or plug the holes with "Dead" rivets. Or,
I may have to replace the tube.
I will be using 4 stroke power on this, as I have mentioned previously.
Dagwodzz has been very kind to spend some quality time with me on the
phone educating me about V-twins. Thank you Dagz! I am also looking at
the absolutely beautiful Pegasus Power O-100 engine from Pete Plumb in
California. I have seen this engine run in person and was very very
impressed.
If anyone can point me to specific articles or archives on this list
regarding technical errors in the plans or instructions, or common
problems building the FireStar, Again I am happy to hear about it.
I have several minor and medium size modifications and tweaks that I am
looking into on this airplane. Some of them are aerodynamic (raked tips,
VG's, etc.), some of them are engine related (4 stroke), and some of
them are mechanical (aircraft quality hardware and fasteners wherever
possible... I have this stuff laying around).
Glad to be a brand new, green, wet-behind-the-ears Kolber !
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and
for-profit entities
--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 3/15/16, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com" <kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2016, 9:21 AM
you could also try
this. I've never used it, can't make a
recommendation.
https://www.zoro.com/3m-flexible-foam-nvh-08463/i/G0406463/?gdffi=047ad
a998cf641fa93e55ae8579df863&gdfms=5EA4232146CF4B229C255AAAF651CF33&gcli
d=CPW8-dyLw8sCFQYIaQodCZwIjw&gclsrc=aw.ds
Lots of Youtube videos about using urethane foam to fill tires, too,
but it doesn't remain flexible so it'll crush up over time and make a
mess in something like an aircraft tire.
Rick
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 1:08 PM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
Here's a potential game-changer solution right here...
http://www.goldspeedproducts.com/shop/tire-blocks/
These are foam inserts that allow you to run lower pressure and even
run safely when punctured flat.
I'll bet that these foam blocks weigh less than the three piece tire
iron set that was mentioned earlier, or the can of flat tire repair
goop :)
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com
- safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net
- winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Larry Cottrell
<lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com"
<kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 10:37 AM
"
I
will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a tire
pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off the
airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel apart
with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch a
tire, and get it back together to fly back
home."
I just
carry a can of "spare tire" wrapped in bubble wrap
in the back of my plane.
Larry
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 10:56 AM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
Yes, I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to
hassle or trash-talk anyone or their product. I do prefer
not having to wrestle with someone just to get an answer to
my question, but regardless of the effort it takes to get
that answer my motives and agendas are positive and not
negative.
My situation is that I want to fly extreme-STOL up in the
mountains and desert. I've been scouting several
locations in my 172, and believe it or not most of them are
actually within 50 or 60 miles of the "big city"
limits. So it's not like I'm going out Grizzly bear
bow hunting in the Aleutian Islands or anything... but
it's still way too far for me to just "walk into
town" with a tire and wheel in my hands.
I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a tire
pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off the
airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel apart
with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch a
tire, and get it back together to fly back home.
Bill Berle
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com"
<kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 9:29 AM
I have three metal
tire irons that I carry with me. Less than 1 lb. for the
set
and with a little water as lubricant they get the tire off
a
one piece wheel just fine. It's breaking the bead
that's the trick and for that I just use a hammer
with
one iron to get it started. It's not what I'd use
at
home, but we're talking stranded in the outback with
the
vultures circling. :-}
Rick Girard
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 9:16 AM, Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
wrote:
Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
The tires and wheels do look nice, and are likely a good
option if flying close to home.
However, it seems like you're missing his point.
He's talking about real 'bush' flying, away
from
airports & service facilities. With conventional 2
piece
wheels, you could break them down with simple hand tools
to
repair a flat, and a small hand pump to re-inflate. But
with
auto-style one piece wheels, it requires specialized
(heavy)
tools to break a tire down for repair. Not likely to be in
a
tool kit you can carry in a Kolb or other very light
a/c.
Charlie
On 3/13/2016 11:19 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
Flyer" <joe.a.lawson@gmail.com>
Bill, I use a cheap harbor freight device for putting
the
tires on, cost $49.95 I think.
Rick, The only tires that I sell are these that I have
pictures of and they fit on a 8 inch rims
--------
Kolb Firestar II
503 C-Box / RK400
Soon to have a
Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch
Challenger II
503 Tall Drive
Location : Buffalo South Carolina
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Subject: | Re: FireStar 2 Kit Received ! |
Thanks Rick,
I'm not taking it lightly. I have started to look at just what it would take to
adapt the O-100 engine, and yes it is completely different than the Rotax bed
mount built into the airframe.
I happen to be very fortunate in that I have a good infrastructure of structural
engineering, welding, machinists, and fabricators available to me. I could never
take this on without having built up that infrastructure.
I just know that I'm more comfortable with 4 stroke power, and I want the reliability/noise
benefits of those engines.
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 3/16/16, Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireStar 2 Kit Received !
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com" <kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 16, 2016, 12:49 PM
Bill
Consider that new engine very carefully. I'm
speaking from experience. I was the first to put a VW on a
Kolb. It is a big undertaking. First thePegasus Power O-100 engine uses a difocalmount
and kolbs have a bed type mount. I had tofabricatea
custom mount for the VW. I had help as GP Aircraft made a
prop end mount that made iteasier. You will have to
fabricate a custom exhaustsystem. You will need to enter
the black science of prop selection. You may likemagnetos
but I don't, they are heavy, expensive, under powered,
and there is a reason they come in pairs.Now the real
tough stuff, the engine is still in development. You will be
the test pilot for not just the engine installation but for
the engine too.
Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to talk
you out of it but do not underestimate the task you will be
taking on. I spent one extra year installing my VW. Then
Ichangedto a redriveVW engine. Then I had a redrive
failure. Then Ifabricateda new lower engine mount. Five
years later I was stilltweakingexhaustsystems, Props,
carb settings, and redrive ratios. Eighteen years later
I'm stillbattlingengine noise - the engine
mounttransmitstoo much vibration noise to the airframe.
One of my high engine mounts had a soft enough mount that
was very smooth and quiet but chewed up engine mounting
bushings/dampers.
One more thing, engine
buildersoverestimatepower and underestimate weight and
price.
It could be a worthychallenge but are you up to
it?
Rick NeilsenRedrive VW
Powered MKIIIC
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016
at 1:33 PM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
Well, the used FS2 kit that I had purchased has arrived! I
picked it up form the Yellow Freight terminal (YRC nowdays)
last night. Got it back to my hangar, and was able to spend
a couple of hours unpacking most of it. I have not been able
to do a full inventory, because I do not have a full
inventory sheet from Kolb. But I have a lot of various
airplane hardware floating around in my hangar :)
One of the chimpanzees involved somewhere in the shipping
crushed two or three small tubes in the horizontal
stabilizers.
The fuselage cage had been hand-painted with white brush-on
house paint or something. I'm thankful for that, because
there is only minor corrosion in the form of brown stains in
the white paint, and no serious pitting. I will eventually
have it blasted and re-primed or powder coated. Any
suggestions, warnings, or experience good or bad with powder
coating and steel priming is welcome.
The kit came with brownish-red plastic wheels and 15 x 6.00
x 6 tires. Alumuinum gear legs, short windshield, one gas
can. It is serial number FS-636, the instruction manual is
dated 1996.
The aluminum tube for the tailboom ("fuselage
tube" in Kolb language) had apparently been
accidentally drilled for the wing ribs, because the original
builder did not realize the tubes were different. So I may
be able to salvage it, repair it, or plug the holes with
"Dead" rivets. Or, I may have to replace the
tube.
I will be using 4 stroke power on this, as I have mentioned
previously. Dagwodzz has been very kind to spend some
quality time with me on the phone educating me about
V-twins. Thank you Dagz! I am also looking at the absolutely
beautiful Pegasus Power O-100 engine from Pete Plumb in
California. I have seen this engine run in person and was
very very impressed.
If anyone can point me to specific articles or archives on
this list regarding technical errors in the plans or
instructions, or common problems building the FireStar,
Again I am happy to hear about it.
I have several minor and medium size modifications and
tweaks that I am looking into on this airplane. Some of them
are aerodynamic (raked tips, VG's, etc.), some of them
are engine related (4 stroke), and some of them are
mechanical (aircraft quality hardware and fasteners wherever
possible... I have this stuff laying around).
Glad to be a brand new, green, wet-behind-the-ears Kolber !
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com
- safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net
- winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit
entities
--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 3/15/16, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com"
<kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2016, 9:21 AM
you could also try
this. I've never used it, can't make a
recommendation.
https://www.zoro.com/3m-flexible-foam-nvh-08463/i/G0406463/?gdffi=047ada998cf641fa93e55ae8579df863&gdfms=5EA4232146CF4B229C255AAAF651CF33&gclid=CPW8-dyLw8sCFQYIaQodCZwIjw&gclsrc=aw.ds
Lots of Youtube videos about using urethane foam
to fill tires, too, but it doesn't remain flexible so
it'll crush up over time and make a mess in something
like an aircraft tire.
Rick
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 1:08 PM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
Here's a potential game-changer solution right
here...
http://www.goldspeedproducts.com/shop/tire-blocks/
These are foam inserts that allow you to run lower
pressure
and even run safely when punctured flat.
I'll bet that these foam blocks weigh less than the
three piece tire iron set that was mentioned earlier, or
the
can of flat tire repair goop :)
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com
- safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net
- winning proposals for non-profit and
for-profit
entities
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Larry Cottrell
<lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com"
<kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 10:37 AM
"
I
will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a
tire
pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off
the
airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel
apart
with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or
patch
a
tire, and get it back together to fly back
home."
I just
carry a can of "spare tire" wrapped in bubble
wrap
in the back of my plane.
Larry
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 10:56 AM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
Yes, I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to
hassle or trash-talk anyone or their product. I do
prefer
not having to wrestle with someone just to get an
answer
to
my question, but regardless of the effort it takes to
get
that answer my motives and agendas are positive and not
negative.
My situation is that I want to fly extreme-STOL up in
the
mountains and desert. I've been scouting several
locations in my 172, and believe it or not most of them
are
actually within 50 or 60 miles of the "big
city"
limits. So it's not like I'm going out Grizzly
bear
bow hunting in the Aleutian Islands or anything... but
it's still way too far for me to just "walk
into
town" with a tire and wheel in my hands.
I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a
tire
pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off
the
airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel
apart
with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or
patch
a
tire, and get it back together to fly back home.
Bill Berle
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com"
<kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 9:29 AM
I have three metal
tire irons that I carry with me. Less than 1 lb. for
the
set
and with a little water as lubricant they get the
tire
off
a
one piece wheel just fine. It's breaking the bead
that's the trick and for that I just use a hammer
with
one iron to get it started. It's not what I'd
use
at
home, but we're talking stranded in the outback
with
the
vultures circling. :-}
Rick Girard
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 9:16 AM, Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
wrote:
Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
The tires and wheels do look nice, and are likely a
good
option if flying close to home.
However, it seems like you're missing his point.
He's talking about real 'bush' flying,
away
from
airports & service facilities. With conventional
2
piece
wheels, you could break them down with simple hand
tools
to
repair a flat, and a small hand pump to re-inflate.
But
with
auto-style one piece wheels, it requires specialized
(heavy)
tools to break a tire down for repair. Not likely to
be
in
a
tool kit you can carry in a Kolb or other very light
a/c.
Charlie
On 3/13/2016 11:19 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
Flyer" <joe.a.lawson@gmail.com>
Bill, I use a cheap harbor freight device for
putting
the
tires on, cost $49.95 I think.
Rick, The only tires that I sell are these that I
have
pictures of and they fit on a 8 inch rims
--------
Kolb Firestar II
503 C-Box / RK400
Soon to have a
Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch
Challenger II
503 Tall Drive
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Subject: | Re: Fixing a Flat Tire |
Dennis
On a trip to Airventure I had a flat after a overnight stop. In the morning
I filled my tire with a can of Fix-A-Flat. I got to my next fuel stop and
added a bit more air. On the next stop I landed at Airventure with a
totally flat tire.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 3:03 PM, KIRBY, DENNIS T GS-13 USAF AFMC AFNWC/EZS <
dennis.kirby.3@us.af.mil> wrote:
> AFNWC/EZS" <dennis.kirby.3@us.af.mil>
>
> Bill Berle wrote: << I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and
> a tire pump. I can take the wheel off the airplane with a medium Crescent
> wrench,
> take the wheel apart with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or
> patch
> a tire, and get it back together to fly back home. >
>
>
> Bill / Kolb Friends -
>
> I, too, travel with tire changing tools in my Mark-3 when I go backcountry
> flying. As Bill describes above, I am able to remove and take apart my
> split rims and patch (or replace) the inner tube.
>
> But what about using "Fix-a-Flat" for the solution? Does anyone have
> experience blasting this goop into their Kolb inner tubes to remedy a flat
> tire? Seems a lot lighter and easier, and you don't need the tire pump.
>
> Pros? Cons?
>
> Dennis Kirby
> Mark-3
> New Mexico
>
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Subject: | Re: FireStar 2 Kit Received ! |
John
The way the sun hits her she looks like she is smiling.
Rick
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 4:05 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
> Homer Kolb designed his wing for a reason. It works.
>
> I have never, in 32 years changed the outside dimensions of an Ultrastar,
> Firestar, or MKIII wing. They work for me.
>
> Plastic wheels don't even make good paper weights.
>
> A varmint decided to taste the fabric on the right main gear of my MKIII.
> We just completely rebuilt, fabric and paint, both main gear a year ago.
> I'd shoot him is I could find him. Have no idea what it was. I was over
> at Gantt International Airport yesterday taking photos of the damage. To
ok
> a couple extra of the environment over there. My little piece of heaven.
>
> Spring has sprung at hauck's holler. The weeds have sprouted. One can
> watch them grow they are so fast. Spring is my favorite season.
> Everything is already covered with pollen. ;-)
>
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Berle
> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 12:33 PM
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireStar 2 Kit Received !
>
>
> Well, the used FS2 kit that I had purchased has arrived! I picked it up
> form the Yellow Freight terminal (YRC nowdays) last night. Got it back to
> my hangar, and was able to spend a couple of hours unpacking most of it.
I
> have not been able to do a full inventory, because I do not have a full
> inventory sheet from Kolb. But I have a lot of various airplane hardware
> floating around in my hangar :)
>
> One of the chimpanzees involved somewhere in the shipping crushed two or
> three small tubes in the horizontal stabilizers.
>
> The fuselage cage had been hand-painted with white brush-on house paint o
r
> something. I'm thankful for that, because there is only minor corrosion i
n
> the form of brown stains in the white paint, and no serious pitting. I wi
ll
> eventually have it blasted and re-primed or powder coated. Any suggestion
s,
> warnings, or experience good or bad with powder coating and steel priming
> is welcome.
>
> The kit came with brownish-red plastic wheels and 15 x 6.00 x 6 tires.
> Alumuinum gear legs, short windshield, one gas can. It is serial number
> FS-636, the instruction manual is dated 1996.
>
> The aluminum tube for the tailboom ("fuselage tube" in Kolb language) had
> apparently been accidentally drilled for the wing ribs, because the
> original builder did not realize the tubes were different. So I may be ab
le
> to salvage it, repair it, or plug the holes with "Dead" rivets. Or, I may
> have to replace the tube.
>
> I will be using 4 stroke power on this, as I have mentioned previously.
> Dagwodzz has been very kind to spend some quality time with me on the pho
ne
> educating me about V-twins. Thank you Dagz! I am also looking at the
> absolutely beautiful Pegasus Power O-100 engine from Pete Plumb in
> California. I have seen this engine run in person and was very very
> impressed.
>
> If anyone can point me to specific articles or archives on this list
> regarding technical errors in the plans or instructions, or common proble
ms
> building the FireStar, Again I am happy to hear about it.
>
> I have several minor and medium size modifications and tweaks that I am
> looking into on this airplane. Some of them are aerodynamic (raked tips,
> VG's, etc.), some of them are engine related (4 stroke), and some of them
> are mechanical (aircraft quality hardware and fasteners wherever
> possible... I have this stuff laying around).
>
> Glad to be a brand new, green, wet-behind-the-ears Kolber !
>
>
> Bill Berle
> www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
> www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and
> for-profit entities
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Tue, 3/15/16, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
> To: "kolb-list@matronics.com" <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2016, 9:21 AM
>
> you could also try
> this. I've never used it, can't make a
> recommendation.
>
> https://www.zoro.com/3m-flexible-foam-nvh-08463/i/G0406463/?gdffi=047ad
a998cf641fa93e55ae8579df863&gdfms=5EA4232146CF4B229C255AAAF651CF33&gclid
=CPW8-dyLw8sCFQYIaQodCZwIjw&gclsrc=aw.ds
>
> Lots of Youtube videos about using urethane foam to fill tires, too, bu
t
> it doesn't remain flexible so it'll crush up over time and make a mess i
n
> something like an aircraft tire.
> Rick
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
> at 1:08 PM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
> Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
>
>
> Here's a potential game-changer solution right here...
>
>
> http://www.goldspeedproducts.com/shop/tire-blocks/
>
>
> These are foam inserts that allow you to run lower pressure and even ru
n
> safely when punctured flat.
>
>
> I'll bet that these foam blocks weigh less than the three piece tire
> iron set that was mentioned earlier, or the can of flat tire repair goop
:)
>
>
> Bill Berle
>
> www.ezflaphandle.com
> - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
>
> www.grantstar.net
> - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
>
>
> --------------------------------------------
>
> On Mon, 3/14/16, Larry Cottrell
> <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
>
> To: "kolb-list@matronics.com"
> <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>
> Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 10:37 AM
>
>
> "
>
> I
>
> will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a tire
>
> pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off the
>
> airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel apart
>
> with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch a
>
> tire, and get it back together to fly back
>
> home."
>
>
> I just
>
> carry a can of "spare tire" wrapped in bubble wrap
>
> in the back of my plane.
>
> Larry
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
>
> at 10:56 AM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
>
> wrote:
>
>
> Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
>
>
> Yes, I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to
>
> hassle or trash-talk anyone or their product. I do prefer
>
> not having to wrestle with someone just to get an answer to
>
> my question, but regardless of the effort it takes to get
>
> that answer my motives and agendas are positive and not
>
> negative.
>
>
> My situation is that I want to fly extreme-STOL up in the
>
> mountains and desert. I've been scouting several
>
> locations in my 172, and believe it or not most of them are
>
> actually within 50 or 60 miles of the "big city"
>
> limits. So it's not like I'm going out Grizzly bear
>
> bow hunting in the Aleutian Islands or anything... but
>
> it's still way too far for me to just "walk into
>
> town" with a tire and wheel in my hands.
>
>
> I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a tire
>
> pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off the
>
> airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel apart
>
> with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch a
>
> tire, and get it back together to fly back home.
>
>
> Bill Berle
>
>
> --------------------------------------------
>
>
> On Mon, 3/14/16, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
>
> wrote:
>
>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
>
>
> To: "kolb-list@matronics.com"
>
> <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>
>
> Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 9:29 AM
>
>
> I have three metal
>
>
> tire irons that I carry with me. Less than 1 lb. for the
>
> set
>
>
> and with a little water as lubricant they get the tire off
>
> a
>
>
> one piece wheel just fine. It's breaking the bead
>
>
> that's the trick and for that I just use a hammer
>
> with
>
>
> one iron to get it started. It's not what I'd use
>
> at
>
>
> home, but we're talking stranded in the outback with
>
> the
>
>
> vultures circling. :-}
>
>
> Rick Girard
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
>
>
> at 9:16 AM, Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
>
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
>
>
> The tires and wheels do look nice, and are likely a good
>
>
> option if flying close to home.
>
>
> However, it seems like you're missing his point.
>
>
> He's talking about real 'bush' flying, away
>
> from
>
>
> airports & service facilities. With conventional 2
>
> piece
>
>
> wheels, you could break them down with simple hand tools
>
> to
>
>
> repair a flat, and a small hand pump to re-inflate. But
>
> with
>
>
> auto-style one piece wheels, it requires specialized
>
> (heavy)
>
>
> tools to break a tire down for repair. Not likely to be in
>
> a
>
>
> tool kit you can carry in a Kolb or other very light
>
>
> a/c.
>
>
> Charlie
>
>
> On 3/13/2016 11:19 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Flyer" <joe.a.lawson@gmail.com>
>
>
> Bill, I use a cheap harbor freight device for putting
>
> the
>
>
> tires on, cost $49.95 I think.
>
>
> Rick, The only tires that I sell are these that I have
>
>
> pictures of and they fit on a 8 inch rims
>
>
> --------
>
>
> Kolb Firestar II
>
>
> 503 C-Box / RK400
>
>
> Soon to have a
>
>
> Rotax 670 DCDI
>
>
> with a C-Box and
>
>
> RK 400 Clutch
>
>
> Challenger II
>
>
> 503 Tall Drive
>
>
> Location : Buffalo South Carolina
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>
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"Homer Kolb designed his wing for a reason. It works.
I have never, in 32 years changed the outside dimensions of
an Ultrastar, Firestar, or MKIII wing. They work for
me."
I agree completely, I'm sure the stock Kolb wing works perfectly well. But on an
experimental homebuilt I'm looking to add some of the small amount of knowledge
and experience that I've gained through about the same 30+ years in aviation.
Mr. Kolb himself changed the wing dimensions to create the Slingshot, Kolbra, Firelfy,
and others. He also changed the angle of incidence (wing mounting angle)
to create different characteristics on different models.
Raked wingtips are shown to work, especially at high AoA and low speeds. They create
a pressure field that slightly reduces the wingtip vortex.
VG's are shown to work great, especially on simple turbulent flow airfoils like
the Cub, Kolb, and Aeronca. They help the airflow stay attached to the wing at
higher AoA. This results in better control authority at low speeds, which will
be a lifesaver in off-airport STOL operations.
On a high drag airplane like a Kolb, reducing drag doesn't make you go any faster.
It allows you to fly at the same speed with less power or fuel burn.
Mr. Kolb designed the landing gear to be as easy and low-risk for new or low-time
pilots as possible. It worked, and the Kolb has a wonderful reputation for
easy ground handling. This is just what the doctor ordered for a kit plane that
was safe for low time pilots. But this mellow ground handling comes at the
cost of losing the ideal ground angle for the wing to take off and land slower.
A longer or taller landing gear requires a slightly more experienced pilot,
but you get better STOL performance in the bargain.
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Attached are pictures of the brake pedals I modified to fit my feet.
I bought new Matco wheels about 2 years ago as they are thicker and Matco had
cracking problems with the old ones. I ordered the new machined caliper with
the wheels as they have a larger piston than the old cast versions. The braking
was better but still not acceptable. I then mounted the old calipers on in
addition as the wheels were drilled for dual calipers and the mounting holes
were the same.
Now the braking is great.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=453823#453823
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If the following statement is true, you'll want an HKS700e
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
>
> I just know that I'm more comfortable with 4 stroke power, and I want the reliability/noise
benefits of those engines.
>
> Bill
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Subject: | FireStar 2 Kit Received ! |
Bill B/Kolbers:
With your background you should realize what it takes to "make" an airplane engine,
and make it work safely and reliably, while making more power than ever required.
Takes but a minute to discover Rotax 2 and 4 stroke engines, a couple VW's, and
a smattering of HKS's are what is pushing Kolbs though the air. Since this thing
started about 40 years ago, there have been a lot of different power plants
tried, but it comes down to the few I mentioned that are still around and still
flying.
I had a buddy, back in the 80's, that had a J3 Kitten powered with a half VW, a
4 stroke. At the time I was flying my FS with a 447. He was always bragging
about how much more reliable his 4 stroke was than my 2 stroke. Of course, he
had never had an engine stoppage or failure, and I had had plenty of both.
One day we were flying a cross country from Bessemer to Wetumpka, AL. We were
chatting on the radio when my buddy said, "Uh oh!", as the Kitten rapidly descended
into a farmer's field. His 4 stroke had broken a valve spring.
All these engines, 2 and 4 stroke will quit when they get ready, for one reason
or the other. When I fly places that I cannot survive if I have an engine out,
I say a little prayer to my Higher Power, and accept that fact if the engine
stops. At my age I am getting less inclined to take those chances, but it is
difficult to fly anywhere when you, at some time during that flight, don't find
yourself in that situation.
Some folks thrive on developing and experimenting with our airplanes. That is
what keeps them going. We have all done our share over the years. So get out
there and get a new engine going that is safe, reliable, more power than ever
needed, cheap, and burns 1 GPH.
Time to roll out the MKIII and get the pollen and barn dust washed off her.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Berle
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireStar 2 Kit Received !
Thanks Rick,
I'm not taking it lightly. I have started to look at just what it would take to
adapt the O-100 engine, and yes it is completely different than the Rotax bed
mount built into the airframe.
I happen to be very fortunate in that I have a good infrastructure of structural
engineering, welding, machinists, and fabricators available to me. I could never
take this on without having built up that infrastructure.
I just know that I'm more comfortable with 4 stroke power, and I want the reliability/noise
benefits of those engines.
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
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On Wed, 3/16/16, Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireStar 2 Kit Received !
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com" <kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 16, 2016, 12:49 PM
Bill
Consider that new engine very carefully. I'm speaking from experience. I was
the first to put a VW on a Kolb. It is a big undertaking. First the Pegasus Power
O-100 engine uses a difocal mount and kolbs have a bed type mount. I had
to fabricate a custom mount for the VW. I had help as GP Aircraft made a prop
end mount that made it easier. You will have to fabricate a custom exhaust
system. You will need to enter the black science of prop selection. You may
like magnetos but I don't, they are heavy, expensive, under powered, and there
is a reason they come in pairs. Now the real tough stuff, the engine is still
in development. You will be the test pilot for not just the engine installation
but for the engine too.
Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to talk you out of it but do not underestimate
the task you will be taking on. I spent one extra year installing my VW.
Then I changed to a redrive VW engine. Then I had a redrive failure. Then I
fabricated a new lower engine mount. Five years later I was still tweaking exhaust
systems, Props, carb settings, and redrive ratios. Eighteen years later
I'm still battling engine noise - the engine mount transmits too much vibration
noise to the airframe.
One of my high engine mounts had a soft enough mount that was very smooth and
quiet but chewed up engine mounting bushings/dampers. One more thing, engine
builders overestimate power and underestimate weight and price.
It could be a worthy challenge but are you up to it?
Rick NeilsenRedrive VW
Powered MKIIIC
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016
at 1:33 PM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
Well, the used FS2 kit that I had purchased has arrived! I
picked it up form the Yellow Freight terminal (YRC nowdays)
last night. Got it back to my hangar, and was able to spend
a couple of hours unpacking most of it. I have not been able
to do a full inventory, because I do not have a full
inventory sheet from Kolb. But I have a lot of various
airplane hardware floating around in my hangar :)
One of the chimpanzees involved somewhere in the shipping
crushed two or three small tubes in the horizontal
stabilizers.
The fuselage cage had been hand-painted with white brush-on
house paint or something. I'm thankful for that, because
there is only minor corrosion in the form of brown stains in
the white paint, and no serious pitting. I will eventually
have it blasted and re-primed or powder coated. Any
suggestions, warnings, or experience good or bad with powder
coating and steel priming is welcome.
The kit came with brownish-red plastic wheels and 15 x 6.00
x 6 tires. Alumuinum gear legs, short windshield, one gas
can. It is serial number FS-636, the instruction manual is
dated 1996.
The aluminum tube for the tailboom ("fuselage
tube" in Kolb language) had apparently been
accidentally drilled for the wing ribs, because the original
builder did not realize the tubes were different. So I may
be able to salvage it, repair it, or plug the holes with
"Dead" rivets. Or, I may have to replace the
tube.
I will be using 4 stroke power on this, as I have mentioned
previously. Dagwodzz has been very kind to spend some
quality time with me on the phone educating me about
V-twins. Thank you Dagz! I am also looking at the absolutely
beautiful Pegasus Power O-100 engine from Pete Plumb in
California. I have seen this engine run in person and was
very very impressed.
If anyone can point me to specific articles or archives on
this list regarding technical errors in the plans or
instructions, or common problems building the FireStar,
Again I am happy to hear about it.
I have several minor and medium size modifications and
tweaks that I am looking into on this airplane. Some of them
are aerodynamic (raked tips, VG's, etc.), some of them
are engine related (4 stroke), and some of them are
mechanical (aircraft quality hardware and fasteners wherever
possible... I have this stuff laying around).
Glad to be a brand new, green, wet-behind-the-ears Kolber !
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com
- safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net
- winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit
entities
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On Tue, 3/15/16, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com"
<kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2016, 9:21 AM
you could also try
this. I've never used it, can't make a
recommendation.
https://www.zoro.com/3m-flexible-foam-nvh-08463/i/G0406463/?gdffi=047ada998cf641fa93e55ae8579df863&gdfms=5EA4232146CF4B229C255AAAF651CF33&gclid=CPW8-dyLw8sCFQYIaQodCZwIjw&gclsrc=aw.ds
Lots of Youtube videos about using urethane foam
to fill tires, too, but it doesn't remain flexible so
it'll crush up over time and make a mess in something
like an aircraft tire.
Rick
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 1:08 PM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
Here's a potential game-changer solution right
here...
http://www.goldspeedproducts.com/shop/tire-blocks/
These are foam inserts that allow you to run lower
pressure
and even run safely when punctured flat.
I'll bet that these foam blocks weigh less than the
three piece tire iron set that was mentioned earlier, or
the
can of flat tire repair goop :)
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com
- safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net
- winning proposals for non-profit and
for-profit
entities
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Larry Cottrell
<lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com"
<kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 10:37 AM
"
I
will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a
tire
pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off
the
airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel
apart
with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or
patch
a
tire, and get it back together to fly back
home."
I just
carry a can of "spare tire" wrapped in bubble
wrap
in the back of my plane.
Larry
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 10:56 AM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
Yes, I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to
hassle or trash-talk anyone or their product. I do
prefer
not having to wrestle with someone just to get an
answer
to
my question, but regardless of the effort it takes to
get
that answer my motives and agendas are positive and not
negative.
My situation is that I want to fly extreme-STOL up in
the
mountains and desert. I've been scouting several
locations in my 172, and believe it or not most of them
are
actually within 50 or 60 miles of the "big
city"
limits. So it's not like I'm going out Grizzly
bear
bow hunting in the Aleutian Islands or anything... but
it's still way too far for me to just "walk
into
town" with a tire and wheel in my hands.
I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a
tire
pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off
the
airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel
apart
with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or
patch
a
tire, and get it back together to fly back home.
Bill Berle
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com"
<kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 9:29 AM
I have three metal
tire irons that I carry with me. Less than 1 lb. for
the
set
and with a little water as lubricant they get the
tire
off
a
one piece wheel just fine. It's breaking the bead
that's the trick and for that I just use a hammer
with
one iron to get it started. It's not what I'd
use
at
home, but we're talking stranded in the outback
with
the
vultures circling. :-}
Rick Girard
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 9:16 AM, Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
wrote:
Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
The tires and wheels do look nice, and are likely a
good
option if flying close to home.
However, it seems like you're missing his point.
He's talking about real 'bush' flying,
away
from
airports & service facilities. With conventional
2
piece
wheels, you could break them down with simple hand
tools
to
repair a flat, and a small hand pump to re-inflate.
But
with
auto-style one piece wheels, it requires specialized
(heavy)
tools to break a tire down for repair. Not likely to
be
in
a
tool kit you can carry in a Kolb or other very light
a/c.
Charlie
On 3/13/2016 11:19 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
Flyer" <joe.a.lawson@gmail.com>
Bill, I use a cheap harbor freight device for
putting
the
tires on, cost $49.95 I think.
Rick, The only tires that I sell are these that I
have
pictures of and they fit on a 8 inch rims
--------
Kolb Firestar II
503 C-Box / RK400
Soon to have a
Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch
Challenger II
503 Tall Drive
Location : Buffalo South Carolina
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She is smiling and ready to fly.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Neilsen
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: FW: Kolb-List: FireStar 2 Kit Received !
John
The way the sun hits her she looks like she is smiling.
Rick
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 4:05 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
wrote:
Homer Kolb designed his wing for a reason. It works.
I have never, in 32 years changed the outside dimensions of an
Ultrastar, Firestar, or MKIII wing. They work for me.
Plastic wheels don't even make good paper weights.
A varmint decided to taste the fabric on the right main gear of my
MKIII. We just completely rebuilt, fabric and paint, both main gear a
year ago. I'd shoot him is I could find him. Have no idea what it was.
I was over at Gantt International Airport yesterday taking photos of
the damage. Took a couple extra of the environment over there. My
little piece of heaven.
Spring has sprung at hauck's holler. The weeds have sprouted. One can
watch them grow they are so fast. Spring is my favorite season.
Everything is already covered with pollen. ;-)
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Berle
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireStar 2 Kit Received !
Well, the used FS2 kit that I had purchased has arrived! I picked it up
form the Yellow Freight terminal (YRC nowdays) last night. Got it back
to my hangar, and was able to spend a couple of hours unpacking most of
it. I have not been able to do a full inventory, because I do not have a
full inventory sheet from Kolb. But I have a lot of various airplane
hardware floating around in my hangar :)
One of the chimpanzees involved somewhere in the shipping crushed two or
three small tubes in the horizontal stabilizers.
The fuselage cage had been hand-painted with white brush-on house paint
or something. I'm thankful for that, because there is only minor
corrosion in the form of brown stains in the white paint, and no serious
pitting. I will eventually have it blasted and re-primed or powder
coated. Any suggestions, warnings, or experience good or bad with powder
coating and steel priming is welcome.
The kit came with brownish-red plastic wheels and 15 x 6.00 x 6 tires.
Alumuinum gear legs, short windshield, one gas can. It is serial number
FS-636, the instruction manual is dated 1996.
The aluminum tube for the tailboom ("fuselage tube" in Kolb language)
had apparently been accidentally drilled for the wing ribs, because the
original builder did not realize the tubes were different. So I may be
able to salvage it, repair it, or plug the holes with "Dead" rivets. Or,
I may have to replace the tube.
I will be using 4 stroke power on this, as I have mentioned previously.
Dagwodzz has been very kind to spend some quality time with me on the
phone educating me about V-twins. Thank you Dagz! I am also looking at
the absolutely beautiful Pegasus Power O-100 engine from Pete Plumb in
California. I have seen this engine run in person and was very very
impressed.
If anyone can point me to specific articles or archives on this list
regarding technical errors in the plans or instructions, or common
problems building the FireStar, Again I am happy to hear about it.
I have several minor and medium size modifications and tweaks that I am
looking into on this airplane. Some of them are aerodynamic (raked tips,
VG's, etc.), some of them are engine related (4 stroke), and some of
them are mechanical (aircraft quality hardware and fasteners wherever
possible... I have this stuff laying around).
Glad to be a brand new, green, wet-behind-the-ears Kolber !
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and
for-profit entities
--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 3/15/16, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com" <kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2016, 9:21 AM
you could also try
this. I've never used it, can't make a
recommendation.
https://www.zoro.com/3m-flexible-foam-nvh-08463/i/G0406463/?gdffi=047ad
a998cf641fa93e55ae8579df863
<https://www.zoro.com/3m-flexible-foam-nvh-08463/i/G0406463/?gdffi=047a
da998cf641fa93e55ae8579df863&gdfms=5EA4232146CF4B229C255AAAF651CF33&gcl
id=CPW8-dyLw8sCFQYIaQodCZwIjw&gclsrc=aw.ds>
&gdfms=5EA4232146CF4B229C255AAAF651CF33&gclid=CPW8-dyLw8sCFQYIaQodCZw
Ijw&gclsrc=aw.ds
Lots of Youtube videos about using urethane foam to fill tires, too,
but it doesn't remain flexible so it'll crush up over time and make a
mess in something like an aircraft tire.
Rick
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 1:08 PM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
Here's a potential game-changer solution right here...
http://www.goldspeedproducts.com/shop/tire-blocks/
These are foam inserts that allow you to run lower pressure and even
run safely when punctured flat.
I'll bet that these foam blocks weigh less than the three piece tire
iron set that was mentioned earlier, or the can of flat tire repair
goop :)
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com
- safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net
- winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Larry Cottrell
<lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com"
<kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 10:37 AM
"
I
will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a tire
pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off the
airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel apart
with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch a
tire, and get it back together to fly back
home."
I just
carry a can of "spare tire" wrapped in bubble wrap
in the back of my plane.
Larry
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 10:56 AM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
Yes, I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to
hassle or trash-talk anyone or their product. I do prefer
not having to wrestle with someone just to get an answer to
my question, but regardless of the effort it takes to get
that answer my motives and agendas are positive and not
negative.
My situation is that I want to fly extreme-STOL up in the
mountains and desert. I've been scouting several
locations in my 172, and believe it or not most of them are
actually within 50 or 60 miles of the "big city"
limits. So it's not like I'm going out Grizzly bear
bow hunting in the Aleutian Islands or anything... but
it's still way too far for me to just "walk into
town" with a tire and wheel in my hands.
I will have a small lightweight tool kit with me, and a tire
pump. Even on a certified172 I can take the wheel off the
airplane with a medium Crescent wrench, take the wheel apart
with three 1/4 inch bolts, replace an inner tube or patch a
tire, and get it back together to fly back home.
Bill Berle
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/14/16, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com"
<kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Monday, March 14, 2016, 9:29 AM
I have three metal
tire irons that I carry with me. Less than 1 lb. for the
set
and with a little water as lubricant they get the tire off
a
one piece wheel just fine. It's breaking the bead
that's the trick and for that I just use a hammer
with
one iron to get it started. It's not what I'd use
at
home, but we're talking stranded in the outback with
the
vultures circling. :-}
Rick Girard
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 9:16 AM, Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
wrote:
Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
The tires and wheels do look nice, and are likely a good
option if flying close to home.
However, it seems like you're missing his point.
He's talking about real 'bush' flying, away
from
airports & service facilities. With conventional 2
piece
wheels, you could break them down with simple hand tools
to
repair a flat, and a small hand pump to re-inflate. But
with
auto-style one piece wheels, it requires specialized
(heavy)
tools to break a tire down for repair. Not likely to be in
a
tool kit you can carry in a Kolb or other very light
a/c.
Charlie
On 3/13/2016 11:19 PM, Carolina Flyer wrote:
Flyer" <joe.a.lawson@gmail.com>
Bill, I use a cheap harbor freight device for putting
the
tires on, cost $49.95 I think.
Rick, The only tires that I sell are these that I have
pictures of and they fit on a 8 inch rims
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Looks good, and I bet they do work much better.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rex Rodebush
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 4:17 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb tires
Attached are pictures of the brake pedals I modified to fit my feet.
I bought new Matco wheels about 2 years ago as they are thicker and Matco
had cracking problems with the old ones. I ordered the new machined caliper
with the wheels as they have a larger piston than the old cast versions.
The braking was better but still not acceptable. I then mounted the old
calipers on in addition as the wheels were drilled for dual calipers and the
mounting holes were the same.
Now the braking is great.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=453823#453823
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Subject: | Re: FireStar 2 Kit Received ! |
I assume that Rick is talking about the Pegasus. I'd bet it uses the
standard Cont. conical mount, but it's still on the back of the engine
instead of the bottom. But more important (at least to me), be sure to
truly count the cost. In the early versions I saw, the actual cost to
get one running was 2 or 3 times the kit cost. Note that there are no
cylinders mentioned on the list of what's included. Assuming that you
must buy your own cylinders, ask him how he can safely run 9-1
compression with the stock Cont. cyl heads & mogas. (Original engine had
7.0-1 compression.) Also, ask what the *real* horsepower is. Most Cont
guys say that the original O-200 4 cyl was only good for maybe 85-90 hp
on its best day, and with a fixed pitch prop, you won't come anywhere
near rated power on takeoff, when you need it. Half of 90 is only 45 HP.
On a tractor a/c, a big Vtwin with reduction swinging a large diameter
prop just might outclimb the O-100, even carrying an extra 15-20 lbs of
weight.
There are other (a lot more work required) options, like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_Tlg9RMKx8
(I think the builder has been on the is list in the past)
or
http://www.rotaryforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16100&highlight=yamaha
Charlie
On 3/16/2016 2:49 PM, Rick Neilsen wrote:
> Bill
>
> Consider that new engine very carefully. I'm speaking from experience.
> I was the first to put a VW on a Kolb. It is a big undertaking. First
> the Pegasus Power O-100 engine uses a difocal mount and kolbs have a
> bed type mount. I had to fabricate a custom mount for the VW. I had
> help as GP Aircraft made a prop end mount that made it easier. You
> will have to fabricate a custom exhaust system. You will need to enter
> the black science of prop selection. You may like magnetos but I
> don't, they are heavy, expensive, under powered, and there is a reason
> they come in pairs. Now the real tough stuff, the engine is still in
> development. You will be the test pilot for not just the engine
> installation but for the engine too.
>
> Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to talk you out of it but do not
> underestimate the task you will be taking on. I spent one extra year
> installing my VW. Then I changed to a redrive VW engine. Then I had a
> redrive failure. Then I fabricated a new lower engine mount. Five
> years later I was still tweaking exhaust systems, Props, carb
> settings, and redrive ratios. Eighteen years later I'm
> still battling engine noise - the engine mount transmits too much
> vibration noise to the airframe. One of my high engine mounts had a
> soft enough mount that was very smooth and quiet but chewed up engine
> mounting bushings/dampers.
>
> One more thing, engine builders overestimate power and underestimate
> weight and price.
>
> It could be a worthy challenge but are you up to it?
>
> Rick Neilsen
> Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net
> <mailto:victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
>
> <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net <mailto:victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>>
>
> Well, the used FS2 kit that I had purchased has arrived! I picked
> it up form the Yellow Freight terminal (YRC nowdays) last night.
> Got it back to my hangar, and was able to spend a couple of hours
> unpacking most of it. I have not been able to do a full inventory,
> because I do not have a full inventory sheet from Kolb. But I have
> a lot of various airplane hardware floating around in my hangar :)
>
> One of the chimpanzees involved somewhere in the shipping crushed
> two or three small tubes in the horizontal stabilizers.
>
> The fuselage cage had been hand-painted with white brush-on house
> paint or something. I'm thankful for that, because there is only
> minor corrosion in the form of brown stains in the white paint,
> and no serious pitting. I will eventually have it blasted and
> re-primed or powder coated. Any suggestions, warnings, or
> experience good or bad with powder coating and steel priming is
> welcome.
>
> The kit came with brownish-red plastic wheels and 15 x 6.00 x 6
> tires. Alumuinum gear legs, short windshield, one gas can. It is
> serial number FS-636, the instruction manual is dated 1996.
>
> The aluminum tube for the tailboom ("fuselage tube" in Kolb
> language) had apparently been accidentally drilled for the wing
> ribs, because the original builder did not realize the tubes were
> different. So I may be able to salvage it, repair it, or plug the
> holes with "Dead" rivets. Or, I may have to replace the tube.
>
> I will be using 4 stroke power on this, as I have mentioned
> previously. Dagwodzz has been very kind to spend some quality time
> with me on the phone educating me about V-twins. Thank you Dagz! I
> am also looking at the absolutely beautiful Pegasus Power O-100
> engine from Pete Plumb in California. I have seen this engine run
> in person and was very very impressed.
>
> If anyone can point me to specific articles or archives on this
> list regarding technical errors in the plans or instructions, or
> common problems building the FireStar, Again I am happy to hear
> about it.
>
> I have several minor and medium size modifications and tweaks that
> I am looking into on this airplane. Some of them are aerodynamic
> (raked tips, VG's, etc.), some of them are engine related (4
> stroke), and some of them are mechanical (aircraft quality
> hardware and fasteners wherever possible... I have this stuff
> laying around).
>
> Glad to be a brand new, green, wet-behind-the-ears Kolber !
>
>
> Bill Berle
> www.ezflaphandle.com <http://www.ezflaphandle.com> - safety &
> performance upgrade for light aircraft
> www.grantstar.net <http://www.grantstar.net> - winning
> proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Tue, 3/15/16, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com
> <mailto:aslsa.rng@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your Firestar
> To: "kolb-list@matronics.com <mailto:kolb-list@matronics.com>"
> <kolb-list@matronics.com <mailto:kolb-list@matronics.com>>
> Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2016, 9:21 AM
>
> you could also try
> this. I've never used it, can't make a
> recommendation.
> https://www.zoro.com/3m-flexible-foam-nvh-08463/i/G0406463/?gdffi=047ada998cf641fa93e55ae8579df863&gdfms=5EA4232146CF4B229C255AAAF651CF33&gclid=CPW8-dyLw8sCFQYIaQodCZwIjw&gclsrc=aw.ds
>
> Lots of Youtube videos about using urethane foam
> to fill tires, too, but it doesn't remain flexible so
> it'll crush up over time and make a mess in something
> like an aircraft tire.
> Rick
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
> at 1:08 PM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net
> <mailto:victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>>
> wrote:
> Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net
> <mailto:victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>>
>
>
> Here's a potential game-changer solution right
> here...
>
>
> http://www.goldspeedproducts.com/shop/tire-blocks/
>
>
> These are foam inserts that allow you to run lower pressure
> and even run safely when punctured flat.
>
>
> I'll bet that these foam blocks weigh less than the
> three piece tire iron set that was mentioned earlier, or the
> can of flat tire repair goop :)
>
>
> Bill Berle
>
> www.ezflaphandle.com <http://www.ezflaphandle.com>
> - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
>
> www.grantstar.net <http://www.grantstar.net>
> - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit
> entities
>
>
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Subject: | FireStar 2 Kit Received ! |
Aw shucks. Not all that greedy.., Even if it burnt 2 GPH!!!! I'm all
in... He said with a big grin on his face;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)
Boyd. Lol
Xxxxxxxxxxxxx
that is safe, reliable, more power than ever needed, cheap, and burns 1 GPH.
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Subject: | Re: FireStar 2 Kit Received ! |
The prototype Pegasus does use the stock Continental conical mounts on the back
of the case. There may be another upcoming mounting system for it that might
be better suited to the Kolb, but that is for Pete to discuss and not me.
The O-200 makes horsepower in proportion to the RPM, I have flown the O-200 from
2000 RPM to 4300 RPM (Reno F-1 race). The power curve drops off dramatically
above 3200, and reliability goes way down. A properly balanced and lubricated
O-200 (or O-100) will maintain very good reliability at 3000 RPM. Better than
a stock un-balanced
I am not an engine expert, but I do know that actual real-world reliability over
the last 60+ years of airplane engines strongly favors the 4 stroke engines.
When Rotax finally decided to create an engine specifically for airplanes, they
chose a 4 stroke despite the fact that by then they were the absolute world
leader in 2 stroke engines in experimental aircraft. There has to be a reason
for that, and it's not just EPA pollution regulations.
I assume that
Rick is talking about the
Pegasus. I'd bet it uses the standard Cont.
conical mount, but
it's still on the back of the engine instead of
the bottom. But
more important (at least to me), be sure to truly
count the cost.
In the early versions I saw, the actual cost to get
one running
was 2 or 3 times the kit cost. Note that there are no
cylinders
mentioned on the list of what's included. Assuming
that you must
buy your own cylinders, ask him how he can safely run
9-1
compression with the stock Cont. cyl heads &
mogas. (Original
engine had 7.0-1 compression.) Also, ask what the
*real*
horsepower is. Most Cont guys say that the original
O-200 4 cyl
was only good for maybe 85-90 hp on its best day, and
with a fixed
pitch prop, you won't come anywhere near rated
power on takeoff,
when you need it. Half of 90 is only 45 HP. On a
tractor a/c, a
big Vtwin with reduction swinging a large diameter
prop just might
outclimb the O-100, even carrying an extra 15-20 lbs
of weight.
There are other (a lot more work required) options,
like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_Tlg9RMKx8
(I think the builder has been on the is list in the
past)
or
http://www.rotaryforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16100&highlight=yamaha
Charlie
On 3/16/2016 2:49 PM, Rick Neilsen wrote:
Bill
Consider that new
engine very carefully. I'm speaking from
experience. I was
the first to put a VW on a Kolb. It is a big
undertaking.
First thePegasus Power
O-100 engine
uses a difocalmount and kolbs have a bed type
mount. I had
tofabricatea custom mount for the VW. I had
help as GP
Aircraft made a prop end mount that made
iteasier. You will
have to fabricate a custom exhaustsystem. You
will need to
enter the black science of prop selection. You
may
likemagnetos but I don't, they are heavy,
expensive, under
powered, and there is a reason they come in
pairs.Now the
real tough stuff, the engine is still in
development. You
will be the test pilot for not just the engine
installation
but for the engine too.
Don't get me wrong I'm
not trying to talk you out of it but do not
underestimate
the task you will be taking on. I spent one
extra year
installing my VW. Then Ichangedto a
redriveVW engine.
Then I had a redrive failure. Then
Ifabricateda new lower
engine mount. Five years later I was
stilltweakingexhaustsystems, Props, carb
settings, and
redrive ratios. Eighteen years later I'm
stillbattlingengine noise - the engine
mounttransmitstoo
much vibration noise to the airframe. One of my
high engine
mounts had a soft enough mount that was very
smooth and
quiet but chewed up engine mounting
bushings/dampers.
One more thing, engine
buildersoverestimatepower and underestimate
weight and
price.
It could be a
worthychallenge but are you up to
it?
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered
MKIIIC
On Wed, Mar
16, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Bill
Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
-->
Kolb-List message posted by: Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
Well, the used FS2 kit that I had purchased has
arrived! I
picked it up form the Yellow Freight terminal
(YRC nowdays)
last night. Got it back to my hangar, and was
able to spend
a couple of hours unpacking most of it. I have
not been able
to do a full inventory, because I do not have a
full
inventory sheet from Kolb. But I have a lot of
various
airplane hardware floating around in my hangar
:)
One of the chimpanzees involved somewhere in the
shipping
crushed two or three small tubes in the
horizontal
stabilizers.
The fuselage cage had been hand-painted with
white brush-on
house paint or something. I'm thankful for
that, because
there is only minor corrosion in the form of
brown stains in
the white paint, and no serious pitting. I will
eventually
have it blasted and re-primed or powder coated.
Any
suggestions, warnings, or experience good or bad
with powder
coating and steel priming is welcome.
The kit came with brownish-red plastic wheels
and 15 x 6.00
x 6 tires. Alumuinum gear legs, short
windshield, one gas
can. It is serial number FS-636, the instruction
manual is
dated 1996.
The aluminum tube for the tailboom
("fuselage tube" in Kolb
language) had apparently been accidentally
drilled for the
wing ribs, because the original builder did not
realize the
tubes were different. So I may be able to
salvage it, repair
it, or plug the holes with "Dead"
rivets. Or, I may have to
replace the tube.
I will be using 4 stroke power on this, as I
have mentioned
previously. Dagwodzz has been very kind to spend
some
quality time with me on the phone educating me
about
V-twins. Thank you Dagz! I am also looking at
the absolutely
beautiful Pegasus Power O-100 engine from Pete
Plumb in
California. I have seen this engine run in
person and was
very very impressed.
If anyone can point me to specific articles or
archives on
this list regarding technical errors in the
plans or
instructions, or common problems building the
FireStar,
Again I am happy to hear about it.
I have several minor and medium size
modifications and
tweaks that I am looking into on this airplane.
Some of them
are aerodynamic (raked tips, VG's, etc.),
some of them are
engine related (4 stroke), and some of them are
mechanical
(aircraft quality hardware and fasteners
wherever
possible... I have this stuff laying around).
Glad to be a brand new, green,
wet-behind-the-ears Kolber !
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com
- safety & performance upgrade for light
aircraft
www.grantstar.net
- winning proposals for non-profit and
for-profit
entities
--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 3/15/16, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tires for your
Firestar
To: "kolb-list@matronics.com"
<kolb-list@matronics.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2016, 9:21 AM
you could also try
this. I've never used it, can't make
a
recommendation.
https://www.zoro.com/3m-flexible-foam-nvh-08463/i/G0406463/?gdffi=047ada998cf641fa93e55ae8579df863&gdfms=5EA4232146CF4B229C255AAAF651CF33&gclid=CPW8-dyLw8sCFQYIaQodCZwIjw&gclsrc=aw.ds
Lots of Youtube videos about using urethane
foam
to fill tires, too, but it doesn't remain
flexible so
it'll crush up over time and make a mess
in something
like an aircraft tire.
Rick
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016
at 1:08 PM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
Here's a potential game-changer solution
right
here...
http://www.goldspeedproducts.com/shop/tire-blocks/
These are foam inserts that allow you to run
lower pressure
and even run safely when punctured flat.
I'll bet that these foam blocks weigh less
than the
three piece tire iron set that was mentioned
earlier, or
the
can of flat tire repair goop :)
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com
- safety & performance upgrade for light
aircraft
www.grantstar.net
- winning proposals for non-profit
and for-profit
entities
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Subject: | Re: FireStar 2 Kit Received ! |
No argument from me on the 4 stroke issue; both links are to 4 stroke
engines. If you try to run the Pegasus direct drive at >3k rpm, you're
going to hit the same wall that Rick did with his VW; inadequate mass
flow through the required small diameter prop at the relatively low
speeds of a Kolb. If you run it at Continental-like rpms with an
adequate diameter prop, I'd bet you'll do good to get 40 hp.
Charlie
On 3/16/2016 6:12 PM, Bill Berle wrote:
>
> The prototype Pegasus does use the stock Continental conical mounts on the back
of the case. There may be another upcoming mounting system for it that might
be better suited to the Kolb, but that is for Pete to discuss and not me.
>
> The O-200 makes horsepower in proportion to the RPM, I have flown the O-200 from
2000 RPM to 4300 RPM (Reno F-1 race). The power curve drops off dramatically
above 3200, and reliability goes way down. A properly balanced and lubricated
O-200 (or O-100) will maintain very good reliability at 3000 RPM. Better than
a stock un-balanced
>
> I am not an engine expert, but I do know that actual real-world reliability over
the last 60+ years of airplane engines strongly favors the 4 stroke engines.
When Rotax finally decided to create an engine specifically for airplanes,
they chose a 4 stroke despite the fact that by then they were the absolute world
leader in 2 stroke engines in experimental aircraft. There has to be a reason
for that, and it's not just EPA pollution regulations.
>
>
> I assume that
> Rick is talking about the
> Pegasus. I'd bet it uses the standard Cont.
> conical mount, but
> it's still on the back of the engine instead of
> the bottom. But
> more important (at least to me), be sure to truly
> count the cost.
> In the early versions I saw, the actual cost to get
> one running
> was 2 or 3 times the kit cost. Note that there are no
> cylinders
> mentioned on the list of what's included. Assuming
> that you must
> buy your own cylinders, ask him how he can safely run
> 9-1
> compression with the stock Cont. cyl heads &
> mogas. (Original
> engine had 7.0-1 compression.) Also, ask what the
> *real*
> horsepower is. Most Cont guys say that the original
> O-200 4 cyl
> was only good for maybe 85-90 hp on its best day, and
> with a fixed
> pitch prop, you won't come anywhere near rated
> power on takeoff,
> when you need it. Half of 90 is only 45 HP. On a
> tractor a/c, a
> big Vtwin with reduction swinging a large diameter
> prop just might
> outclimb the O-100, even carrying an extra 15-20 lbs
> of weight.
>
>
>
> There are other (a lot more work required) options,
> like
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_Tlg9RMKx8
>
> (I think the builder has been on the is list in the
> past)
>
> or
>
> http://www.rotaryforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16100&highlight=yamaha
>
>
>
> Charlie
>
>
>
> On 3/16/2016 2:49 PM, Rick Neilsen wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> Consider that new
> engine very carefully. I'm speaking from
> experience. I was
> the first to put a VW on a Kolb. It is a big
> undertaking.
> First the Pegasus Power
> O-100 engine
> uses a difocal mount and kolbs have a bed type
> mount. I had
> to fabricate a custom mount for the VW. I had
> help as GP
> Aircraft made a prop end mount that made
> it easier. You will
> have to fabricate a custom exhaust system. You
> will need to
> enter the black science of prop selection. You
> may
> like magnetos but I don't, they are heavy,
> expensive, under
> powered, and there is a reason they come in
> pairs. Now the
> real tough stuff, the engine is still in
> development. You
> will be the test pilot for not just the engine
> installation
> but for the engine too.
>
>
>
> Don't get me wrong I'm
> not trying to talk you out of it but do not
> underestimate
> the task you will be taking on. I spent one
> extra year
> installing my VW. Then I changed to a
> redrive VW engine.
> Then I had a redrive failure. Then
> I fabricated a new lower
> engine mount. Five years later I was
> still tweaking exhaust systems, Props, carb
> settings, and
> redrive ratios. Eighteen years later I'm
> still battling engine noise - the engine
> mount transmits too
> much vibration noise to the airframe. One of my
> high engine
> mounts had a soft enough mount that was very
> smooth and
> quiet but chewed up engine mounting
> bushings/dampers.
>
>
>
> One more thing, engine
> builders overestimate power and underestimate
> weight and
> price.
>
>
>
> It could be a
> worthy challenge but are you up to
> it?
>
>
>
> Rick Neilsen
> Redrive VW Powered
> MKIIIC
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar
> 16, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Bill
> Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
>
> -->
> Kolb-List message posted by: Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
>
>
>
> Well, the used FS2 kit that I had purchased has
> arrived! I
> picked it up form the Yellow Freight terminal
> (YRC nowdays)
> last night. Got it back to my hangar, and was
> able to spend
> a couple of hours unpacking most of it. I have
> not been able
> to do a full inventory, because I do not have a
> full
> inventory sheet from Kolb. But I have a lot of
> various
> airplane hardware floating around in my hangar
> :)
>
>
>
> One of the chimpanzees involved somewhere in the
> shipping
> crushed two or three small tubes in the
> horizontal
> stabilizers.
>
>
>
> The fuselage cage had been hand-painted with
> white brush-on
> house paint or something. I'm thankful for
> that, because
> there is only minor corrosion in the form of
> brown stains in
> the white paint, and no serious pitting. I will
> eventually
> have it blasted and re-primed or powder coated.
> Any
> suggestions, warnings, or experience good or bad
> with powder
> coating and steel priming is welcome.
>
>
>
> The kit came with brownish-red plastic wheels
> and 15 x 6.00
> x 6 tires. Alumuinum gear legs, short
> windshield, one gas
> can. It is serial number FS-636, the instruction
> manual is
> dated 1996.
>
>
>
> The aluminum tube for the tailboom
> ("fuselage tube" in Kolb
> language) had apparently been accidentally
> drilled for the
> wing ribs, because the original builder did not
> realize the
> tubes were different. So I may be able to
> salvage it, repair
> it, or plug the holes with "Dead"
> rivets. Or, I may have to
> replace the tube.
>
>
>
> I will be using 4 stroke power on this, as I
> have mentioned
> previously. Dagwodzz has been very kind to spend
> some
> quality time with me on the phone educating me
> about
> V-twins. Thank you Dagz! I am also looking at
> the absolutely
> beautiful Pegasus Power O-100 engine from Pete
> Plumb in
> California. I have seen this engine run in
> person and was
> very very impressed.
>
>
>
> If anyone can point me to specific articles or
> archives on
> this list regarding technical errors in the
> plans or
> instructions, or common problems building the
> FireStar,
> Again I am happy to hear about it.
>
>
>
> I have several minor and medium size
> modifications and
> tweaks that I am looking into on this airplane.
> Some of them
> are aerodynamic (raked tips, VG's, etc.),
> some of them are
> engine related (4 stroke), and some of them are
> mechanical
> (aircraft quality hardware and fasteners
> wherever
> possible... I have this stuff laying around).
>
>
>
> Glad to be a brand new, green,
> wet-behind-the-ears Kolber !
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill Berle
>
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Subject: | Re: Fixing a Flat Tire |
I have used Fix-A-Flat on other flats and one of the things I learned is that you
need to spin the tire as soon after using it so that the fix-it is spread out
evenly over the outer side of the inside of the tire.
Brad Nation
MK3 Xtra
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Subject: | FireStar 2 Kit Received ! |
Hi Folks:
The paragraphs in quotation marks are Bill B's.
Homer Kolb didn't design the Kolbra. That aircraft was designed and built some
time after the original Kolb Aircraft Co was sold.
"Mr. Kolb himself changed the wing dimensions to create the Slingshot, Kolbra,
Firelfy, and others. He also changed the angle of incidence (wing mounting angle)
to create different characteristics on different models."
All Kolb wing dimensions are the same, except length of the wing panel. Shape
of the rib and cord is the same on all models.
The Slingshot had less incidence because of the high main gear and the nose high
attitude the aircraft sat on the ground. It also flew faster, pulling the tail
boom parallel through the air stream. At slower speeds the SS really drags
its tail. Very tail low. Other Kolb models fly tail high because of the excessive
incidence.
"Raked wingtips are shown to work, especially at high AoA and low speeds. They
create a pressure field that slightly reduces the wingtip vortex."
I think you will find that Homer's wingtip takes care of the above.
"VG's are shown to work great, especially on simple turbulent flow airfoils like
the Cub, Kolb, and Aeronca. They help the airflow stay attached to the wing
at higher AoA. This results in better control authority at low speeds, which will
be a lifesaver in off-airport STOL operations."
All Kolb models have excellent low speed flight characteristics without VGs. About
the only thing I have been able to determine with the addition of VGs on
a Kolb is more gentle break on landing, and slightly less stall speed.
"Mr. Kolb designed the landing gear to be as easy and low-risk for new or low-time
pilots as possible. It worked, and the Kolb has a wonderful reputation for
easy ground handling. This is just what the doctor ordered for a kit plane that
was safe for low time pilots. But this mellow ground handling comes at the
cost of losing the ideal ground angle for the wing to take off and land slower.
A longer or taller landing gear requires a slightly more experienced pilot,
but you get better STOL performance in the bargain."
The Hauck Brothers have been designing and building "tall" landing gear for Kolb
aircraft for 30 years. We put the first pair of heat treated 4130 legs on a
Kolb. The main reason we started experimenting with long legs on my FS was the
lack of brakes. One of the first mods to my FS was 4130 streamlined lift struts.
They cleaned up the FS so much I couldn't get it stopped on my short grass
strip. The 36" legs turned the bottom of the wing up more and helped slow
the FS down on landing. They also made nice springs, and worked wonders for
softening up the suspension.
BTW Bill B, tell us about your Kolb experience, please.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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