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1. 02:19 AM - Re: JC's foldable project... (John Gilpin)
2. 02:36 AM - JC's foldable project... (JC Gilpin)
3. 04:25 AM - Re: Elevator/Stabilizer hinge ass'y (Dennis Rowe)
4. 04:59 AM - Re: Mark III sold (George Alexander)
5. 05:34 AM - Re: Mark III sold (Watkinsdw)
6. 06:05 AM - Re: Elevator/Stabilizer hinge ass'y (Richard Pike)
7. 10:05 AM - Re: Re: Elevator/Stabilizer hinge ass'y (Bill Berle)
8. 11:15 AM - Re: Elevator/Stabilizer hinge ass'y (Bill Berle)
9. 03:18 PM - Re: JC's foldable project... (John Hauck)
10. 06:16 PM - Re: JC's foldable project... (Herb)
11. 06:24 PM - Re: : Re: JC's foldable project... (Herb)
12. 08:46 PM - Re: Elevator/Stabilizer hinge ass'y (Richard Pike)
13. 10:23 PM - Re: Re: Elevator/Stabilizer hinge ass'y (Larry Cottrell)
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| Subject: | Re: JC's foldable project... |
How do I add a photo in this list??
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| Subject: | JC's foldable project... |
Not sure that I can add a photo in this list. I can't use 'Reply to List'
cause it goes into Windows Live and then a message that something isn't
configured correctly.... So I compose my posts in Gmail like I'm doing
now. I'll try to send a photo. If this works I'll include some details
later.
JG
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator/Stabilizer hinge ass'y |
Now that we've got that straight I'll try the engine again.
The HKS 700e is the reliable proven four stroke engine you seek.
Having said that, if you properly care for and feed a Rotax 503 equipped with an
E or C gearbox, it'll be as reliable as any spam can engine out there. It'll
just burn more gas than the HKS.
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
> On Mar 23, 2016, at 10:29 PM, Bill Berle <victorbravo@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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> Forget the !(#$(% hinges guys, like all of you have said over and over and over
they don't fail. Congratulations, nobody has to think any more than that. This
reminds me of the scene in the movie Rain Man where Tom Cruise finally says
"That's all right Raymond, you don't have to answer any more questions."
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> Bill Berle
> www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
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| Subject: | Re: Mark III sold |
Watkinsdw wrote:
> My 2001 Mk III built by Stephen Green has been purchased by a real gentleman
who lives in Vernon, British Columbia.
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> . S . N . I . P .
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> Thanks again, and stay safe!
> Dave Watkins
> Pompano Beach, FL
Congratulations Dave. Sounds like you found a good home for your "Green Machine".
Saw the MK III when Stephen flew it into the Kolb Farm
Kept hoping I might hit the lottery and could make you an offer, but alas....
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George Alexander
FS II R503 N709FS
http://www.oh2fly.net
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| Subject: | Re: Mark III sold |
Thanks for the kind words and the picture, too, George.
I'll add it to my gallery for the moments when I need to reminisce.
My goal was to find her a good home with a competent pilot in a supportive light
aircraft community, who would appreciate her, and the fine craftsmanship of
Stephen Green.
Mission accomplished!
Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator/Stabilizer hinge ass'y |
If you don't like having all the hinges on one side, there is an easy fix:
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator/Stabilizer hinge ass'y |
Thank you sincerely Richard, that hinge setup in your photo looks a lot more solid
to me. If I were going to use the stock piano hinge I would do it that way
(and feel much better about it than the original plans method). In fact, if there
turns out to be some unforeseen problem with my own proposed hinge method,
I will revert back to the method shown in your photo with piano hinges. At the
very least it balances out the off-axis forces, which is what I was not happy
with in the first place.
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
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On Thu, 3/24/16, Richard Pike <thegreybaron@charter.net> wrote:
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Elevator/Stabilizer hinge ass'y
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Date: Thursday, March 24, 2016, 6:05 AM
"Richard Pike" <thegreybaron@charter.net>
If you don't like having all the hinges on one side, there
is an easy fix:
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator/Stabilizer hinge ass'y |
Thank you Dennis, after reading your comments about the HKS, I looked into it a
little, and even found a video of a FireStar in Hawaii flying with the HKS. Can
anyone here verify that an HKS 700E will deliver the same, more, or less thrust
than a comparable "stock" 503 installation? Can anyone here verify from experience
that the HKS has or does not have any specific issues, quirks, etc?
On Thu, 3/24/16, Dennis Rowe <rowedenny@windstream.net> wrote:
Now that we've got that straight I'll try the engine again. The HKS 700e is the
reliable proven four stroke engine you
seek.
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| Subject: | JC's foldable project... |
I like it, JG.
Homer designed one tractor. I think I would like a tractor better than
the pusher.
Wing looks similar to Homer's.
What engine are you using?
How much does it weigh?
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JC Gilpin
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 4:35 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: JC's foldable project...
Not sure that I can add a photo in this list. I can't use 'Reply to
List' cause it goes into Windows Live and then a message that something
isn't configured correctly.... So I compose my posts in Gmail like I'm
doing now. I'll try to send a photo. If this works I'll include some
details later.
JG
=8B
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| Subject: | Re: JC's foldable project... |
Lots of questions...hope JG jumps in again with some details...No center
spar...but the dual lift struts follow std ul practice... Looks like a
rotax....? round or square tube for the boom ? aluminum fuselage? wt?
Herb
On 03/24/2016 05:16 PM, John Hauck wrote:
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> I like it, JG.
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> Homer designed one tractor.I think I would like a tractor better than
> the pusher.
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> Wing looks similar to Homer's.
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> What engine are you using?
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> How much does it weigh?
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> john h
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> mkIII
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> Titus, Alabama
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> *From:*owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *JC Gilpin
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 24, 2016 4:35 AM
> *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Kolb-List: JC's foldable project...
>
> Not sure that I can add a photo in this list. I can't use 'Reply to
> List' cause it goes into Windows Live and then a message that
> something isn't configured correctly.... So I compose my posts in
> Gmail like I'm doing now. I'll try to send a photo. If this works
> I'll include some details later.
>
> JG
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| Subject: | Re: : Re: JC's foldable project... |
Lots of questions...hope JG jumps in again with some details...No
center spar...but the dual lift struts follow std ul practice... Looks
like a rotax....? round or square tube for the boom ? aluminum fuselage?
wt? Herb
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator/Stabilizer hinge ass'y |
As a retired pastor, one of the things that was supposed to be in my job description
was that of being a peacemaker, and thinking about how this thread has gone,
maybe there is time to still do that. Perhaps if - instead of focusing on
the elevator hinge and associated mechanisms - which has had no known failures
within the experience of this list - we had concerned ourselves with known problems
and failures, our time might have been better spent.
So at the risk of hijacking the thread, I am going to do just that. I will probably
not be able to remember all the Kolb things that have failed over the years,
but I will enumerate all that I can, and if some of you can remember things
that I can't, please add them in.
The forward attachment for the stabilizer: Somebody had one that did not make any
provision to slide fore and aft as the elevator went up and down, and it bent
the 2 stainless L brackets back and forth until they fractured. The front end
of the stab popped up vertical, (!!!) but the pilot was able to maintain control
and land safely.
The Firestar/Firestar II axle fitting. Originally designed for a Part 103 legal
U/L, it was not changed and made it's way into heavier aircraft, where it was
extremely marginal. Kolb now sells an upgrade. If you are flying any sort of
non-103 FS/FSII - buy yourself a pair. Now.
Aileron Flutter. Kolb sells counterbalances. Get you some.
Rudder flutter. Some do, some don't. If you take your feet off the rudder pedals and they start to pulsate, be very careful. Either never take your feet off the rudder pedals, or make yourself a counterbalance. Something sort of like this: http://oh2fly.net/oldpoops/pg6.htm
Instability. Kolbs are unstable. You can add dihedral to a Firestar or Firestar
II and they will become stable. The MKIII will not. Don't know about doing it
to the Xtra, the Firefly or the Slingshot. Just so you know.
Full flaps on the MKIII with forward CG: If you have a heavy passenger and full
flaps, you can run out of elevator authority in the flare, especially if you
are slow and carrying any power. Gap sealing the elevator to the horizontal stab
and adding VG's to the underside of the horizontal stab helps a lot.
Before we put the 582 on FSII N582EF, Kolb expressed concern that the upper fuselage
structure was not designed for that much torque, and were concerned that
at full throttle and encountering a big thermal might cause the upper rear spar
structure to twist itself into really nasty shapes. If you are thinking of
going big, beef up that area.
Front spar collapse: John Hauck posted some really freaky pictures of what happened
to his front spar when the forward part of the ribs failed in compression,
and brought him down under silk. Make sure that your leading edge cannot move
or displace under any circumstances.
Twinstar MKII: I have seen one of them break the boom tube right at the end of
the fuselage cage because the H insert was not properly installed. Inspect carefully.
MKIII spar bolt: A MKIII was lost w/fatality because the 1/2" bolt that goes through
the main spar into the lift strut fitting was omitted, and the bracket was
attached only by the pop rivets that held it in place prior to bolt insertion.
Breakage of the lower vertical fin post: Racking the tail wheel around on rough
ground puts huge side loads on the lower steel post of the vertical stabilizer,
John Hauck broke his. It is wise to add braces from the lower part of that
post to the steel ring that fits into the rear of the fuselage tube to strengthen
it.
It's now 11:35, and that's all I can remember; I'm sure the rest of you guys can
add to this list. Once the list becomes comprehensive, maybe it ought to be
made into an unofficial AD Notice list and made into a sticky?
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=454106#454106
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator/Stabilizer hinge ass'y |
I do hope that you are right. Personally I came to the conclusion that if
he looked in the mirror he would see the "bully" that he was describing. I
guess he reminds me a bit too much of Jet Pilot. :-/ I guess I prefer
do'ers rather than talkers. I probably spent too many years as a cop, and
my belief in my fellow man was most likely stunted. :-)
I shall wait with interest, and hope for the best.
Larry
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