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1. 10:20 AM - Re: Flaps 04/08/16 (Bob Green)
2. 05:18 PM - Re: flap usage (John Hauck)
3. 06:09 PM - Re: Flap usage (John Hauck)
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| Subject: | RE: Flaps 04/08/16 |
B/Young:
Good example of what happens when an inexperienced pilot tries what only an experienced
pilot should do.
What was the instructor doing all this time while
the guy was bending his airplane and putting lives at risk?
My comments included paying attention to, "Flying speed, staying in ground effect,
and controlled use of flaps. My Kolb has
flaperons but the newer ones have flaps. In reality, not really necessary to get
a STOL take-off or landing with a Kolb.
The Kolb performs great by design.
You are right about the Kolb landing gear. The men like you and John H fly your
planes
(control them) til you have them tied down. That is of course what any safe pilot
does, especially when flying the
great little tail wheel airplanes designed by Homer Kolb. I was told when I received
my first Cessna 180 that it could be
worn as a "sombrero" if the pilot did not fly it instead of letting it fly him.
Too much brakes will result in most tail wheel
aircraft going over on its nose, leaving the pilot and passengers underneath it.
:-) Of course putting a tri-gear plane on
its back is more difficult but if one doesn't mind bending or breaking the nose
gear it can be done as in your illustration.
Your points are well stated.
Bob
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Berle
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: flap usage
Anyone interested in maximum STOL takeoff should try out the "pop" technique used
in larger STOL type aircraft. This would likely make a noticeable difference.
Bill Berle
I'm a little ahead of Bill B. I have used that technique since I started flying
a Kolb with flaps. About 24 years in my case.
Yes, it works quite well on "smaller" STOL aircraft. It is a great technique to
break free of tall grass, sand, mud. On one occasion I was taking off from
a private strip in a corn field in Indiana. It was raining cats and dogs. Water
was standing on the groomed grass strip. Lots of drag on my MKIII. The pop
up technique got me and the fully loaded MKIII, on return flight from Oshkosh,
up and away.
Most of the time I only use the pop up technique to show off if I have an audience.
;-)
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama - Tired after 6.5 flight hours in rough air going the wrong direction.
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George A/Kolbers:
Had forgotten about that. Had a ball at John B's fly ins.
I use flaps unless I am encountering a bad cross wind, turbulence
landing, or those long, long paved airports. I like playing with them,
as I was at John B's. They are an effective tool. I was surprised at
how many MKIII owners do not take advantage of this capability.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George
Alexander
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Flap usage
Watched John Hauck use this technique flying out of John Bickham's Nauga
Field.
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