---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 04/09/16: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 10:20 AM - Re: Flaps 04/08/16 (Bob Green) 2. 05:18 PM - Re: flap usage (John Hauck) 3. 06:09 PM - Re: Flap usage (John Hauck) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 10:20:49 AM PST US From: Bob Green Subject: Kolb-List: RE: Flaps 04/08/16 B/Young: Good example of what happens when an inexperienced pilot tries what only an experienced pilot should do. What was the instructor doing all this time while the guy was bending his airplane and putting lives at risk? My comments included paying attention to, "Flying speed, staying in ground effect, and controlled use of flaps. My Kolb has flaperons but the newer ones have flaps. In reality, not really necessary to get a STOL take-off or landing with a Kolb. The Kolb performs great by design. You are right about the Kolb landing gear. The men like you and John H fly your planes (control them) til you have them tied down. That is of course what any safe pilot does, especially when flying the great little tail wheel airplanes designed by Homer Kolb. I was told when I received my first Cessna 180 that it could be worn as a "sombrero" if the pilot did not fly it instead of letting it fly him. Too much brakes will result in most tail wheel aircraft going over on its nose, leaving the pilot and passengers underneath it. :-) Of course putting a tri-gear plane on its back is more difficult but if one doesn't mind bending or breaking the nose gear it can be done as in your illustration. Your points are well stated. Bob ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:18:38 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: flap usage -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Berle Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 6:24 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: flap usage Anyone interested in maximum STOL takeoff should try out the "pop" technique used in larger STOL type aircraft. This would likely make a noticeable difference. Bill Berle I'm a little ahead of Bill B. I have used that technique since I started flying a Kolb with flaps. About 24 years in my case. Yes, it works quite well on "smaller" STOL aircraft. It is a great technique to break free of tall grass, sand, mud. On one occasion I was taking off from a private strip in a corn field in Indiana. It was raining cats and dogs. Water was standing on the groomed grass strip. Lots of drag on my MKIII. The pop up technique got me and the fully loaded MKIII, on return flight from Oshkosh, up and away. Most of the time I only use the pop up technique to show off if I have an audience. ;-) john h mkIII Titus, Alabama - Tired after 6.5 flight hours in rough air going the wrong direction. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:09:58 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Flap usage George A/Kolbers: Had forgotten about that. Had a ball at John B's fly ins. I use flaps unless I am encountering a bad cross wind, turbulence landing, or those long, long paved airports. I like playing with them, as I was at John B's. They are an effective tool. I was surprised at how many MKIII owners do not take advantage of this capability. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Alexander Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 8:39 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Flap usage Watched John Hauck use this technique flying out of John Bickham's Nauga Field. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.