---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 04/16/16: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:19 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 04/15/16 (Paul) 2. 04:12 PM - ND flying videos (Stuart Harner) 3. 05:21 PM - Re: ND flying videos (Larry Cottrell) 4. 07:50 PM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 04/14/16 (George Bearden) 5. 09:00 PM - Re: ND flying videos/camera talk (Stuart Harner) 6. 09:50 PM - Re: ND flying videos/camera talk (Larry Cottrell) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:19:47 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: RE: Kolb-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 04/15/16 From: Paul V291bGQgeW91IG1pbmQgdG8gdGFrZSBtZSBvZmYgdGhlIGxpc3Q/ClBhdWxAc2lnc29sbnMuY29t wqAKVGhhbmsgeW91wqAKCgpTZW50IHZpYSB0aGUgU2Ftc3VuZyBHYWxheHkgU8KuIDYsIGFuIEFU JlQgNEcgTFRFIHNtYXJ0cGhvbmUtLS0tLS0tLSBPcmlnaW5hbCBtZXNzYWdlIC0tLS0tLS0tCkZy 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PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT0KIAogCgoKCg= ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:12:50 PM PST US From: "Stuart Harner" Subject: Kolb-List: ND flying videos Hi everyone, Raining here today so had a chance to get some videos from last year posted. No music, just engine and wind noise. http://www.harnerfarm.net/serenity/videos.html New ones are at the bottom of the list. Serenity Landing is a little long and maybe a little boring. It was the end of a nice evening flight. You get to see a little of the countryside around the Mandan, ND airport as well as the grass strip. Dawn Patrol was a friend wanting to get some pictures from his deck. It was a nice warm morning but we forgot his deck faces East! My video came out better than his pictures. Hello! was from my last flight of the year and it was my birthday. I had promised a friend that I would fly up and around their house so their little boy could see it. Problem was, even though it was nice on the ground, anything above about 600' AGL was so rough it was out of my comfort zone. I forced myself to fly in the rough air as I figured I needed the practice. I got as high as I dared and crossed the river where there was a wide sand bar. First time over water! Made it safe and sound but I was not sure about the fuel situation so only made one pass. I sure don't want to run out on final because I was screwing around too long. As it turns out I had a gallon and a half when I got back. This year I plan on experimenting with different camera mounts/locations to try and minimize the "jello" effect. Enjoy, or ignore, your choice! Stuart ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:21:09 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ND flying videos From: Larry Cottrell On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Stuart Harner wrote: > > This year I plan on experimenting with different camera mounts/locations > to try and minimize the =9Cjello=9D effect. > > > Stuart, Thanks for the videos. I assume that you are using a Virb Elite? I > was a bit surprised at the clarity of them. The last was a lot more like > it. I checked the settings on mine and found that it was set to 1080P- > Ultra zoom- format NTSC. Lens correct was on as well as the stabilizer. > Those setting seem to render a video close to what I see with my naked ey e. > I have checked all over my Firestar and the only place that will give me the least amount of jello and other crap is on the end of the nose pod, and secured as solid as I can get it. I have a screw in pitot tube holder (plastic from AC spruce) I took a piece of alum flat stock, bent half of it 180 degrees and mounted my cradle on it. It just clears the pod. I tried one of the stick on holders and it was not as good as the alum for some reason. The other spot that isn't all that bad is the wing. Of course if you fold it each time , that isn't going to work. You will also find that there is some rpm ranges that will cause jello. For me and the HKS with a Max cruise of 5800 RPM, I find that either 5400 or faster is as smooth as it gets for me. So if you are getting jello, do a flight and mark your RPM's and try different speeds and see which works the best. I think some of the reason the quality is less than I would expect is where the video is uploaded to. Vimeo has a free membership that will give you 5000? MB a week free. The quality is really good, and they don't hassle you if you want to put some music on your video. You tube is impossible for me to deal with. When I am uploading it I make the quality as high as I can get it. Thanks for doing the videos, I like to see other parts of the country, and appreciate the effort that it takes to do a video. I wish others would do more. Larry -- *The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant of others.* *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:50:14 PM PST US From: "George Bearden" Subject: Kolb-List: RE: Kolb-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 04/14/16 > I need one, what is he asking for them? $310. No shipping provided. But Fresno is midway between San Francisco and LA, on hwy 99. GeoB ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:00:31 PM PST US From: "Stuart Harner" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: ND flying videos/camera talk Larry, Yes, VIRB Elite and I think I am using the same settings as you. I had it mounted up high next to the enricher lever so that I could see the horizon and instruments as well as my hands on the controls. I used the videos to review each flight for training purposes. For my last flight last fall I dropped it down on the same upright trying to get less vibration. It was a last minute idea before I took off. Waving my arms around really messed that up! The nose cone on Serenity is mounted with screws on the bottom instead of rivets. That might be a place to make a mounting bracket that can be easily removed. Problem is I don=99t have a remote control and I sometimes forget to turn the camera on. Where it is I can reach it when I remember. I also worry about the camera falling out of the cradle and I haven=99t figured out a good way to secure it yet. The VIRB seems to do a pretty good job but it always screws up the sync between the data tracking and the video on the first file. The tracking will always be about a minute ahead of the video so it looks like I am flying and turning while I am still on the ground. After the camera starts a new file at 23+ minutes, the sync is fine. Go figure! I have my own domain name and access to a web server as a benefit of my job. File size is no limit for me, but can be a pain for the viewing public. I need to look into other file types but MP4 gives good compression from the VIRB defaults and most people can view them. .AVI and .MOV work but are larger in size. What file type do you upload to VIMEO? Stuart From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Cottrell Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2016 7:21 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ND flying videos On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Stuart Harner wrote: This year I plan on experimenting with different camera mounts/locations to try and minimize the =9Cjello=9D effect. Stuart, Thanks for the videos. I assume that you are using a Virb Elite? I was a bit surprised at the clarity of them. The last was a lot more like it. I checked the settings on mine and found that it was set to 1080P- Ultra zoom- format NTSC. Lens correct was on as well as the stabilizer. Those setting seem to render a video close to what I see with my naked eye. I have checked all over my Firestar and the only place that will give me the least amount of jello and other crap is on the end of the nose pod, and secured as solid as I can get it. I have a screw in pitot tube holder (plastic from AC spruce) I took a piece of alum flat stock, bent half of it 180 degrees and mounted my cradle on it. It just clears the pod. I tried one of the stick on holders and it was not as good as the alum for some reason. The other spot that isn't all that bad is the wing. Of course if you fold it each time , that isn't going to work. You will also find that there is some rpm ranges that will cause jello. For me and the HKS with a Max cruise of 5800 RPM, I find that either 5400 or faster is as smooth as it gets for me. So if you are getting jello, do a flight and mark your RPM's and try different speeds and see which works the best. I think some of the reason the quality is less than I would expect is where the video is uploaded to. Vimeo has a free membership that will give you 5000? MB a week free. The quality is really good, and they don't hassle you if you want to put some music on your video. You tube is impossible for me to deal with. When I am uploading it I make the quality as high as I can get it. Thanks for doing the videos, I like to see other parts of the country, and appreciate the effort that it takes to do a video. I wish others would do more. Larry -- The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant of others. If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:50:10 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ND flying videos/camera talk From: Larry Cottrell On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 10:00 PM, Stuart Harner wrote: > Larry, > > > The nose cone on Serenity is mounted with screws on the bottom instead of > rivets. That might be a place to make a mounting bracket that can be easi ly > removed. Problem is I don=99t have a remote control and I sometimes forget to > turn the camera on. Where it is I can reach it when I remember. I also > worry about the camera falling out of the cradle and I haven=99t fi gured out > a good way to secure it yet. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------ > I set my camera to record when movement is detected. It works quite well. I just turn it on and when I am moving whether taxiing or flying it is on and recording. When you stop it shuts off, and starts a new file when you begin moving again. The unit also has Wifi so you could theoretically control it with a smart phone. I prefer the record while moving setting. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------- > > > I have my own domain name and access to a web server as a benefit of my > job. File size is no limit for me, but can be a pain for the viewing > public. I need to look into other file types but MP4 gives good compressi on > from the VIRB defaults and most people can view them. .AVI and .MOV work > but are larger in size. What file type do you upload to VIMEO? > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------- > I upload to MP4 at the max quality- 1980 to 1080 @ 30 frames. Something, probably the service that you upload to is cutting the clarity of the video down to the point that it compares to about 280 kb rather than HD. As far as the security of the camera in the cradle goes. I used a safety wire but cut it off since I don't think you could knock it off without a wreck causing it. If you look at the picture of the wing mount you can see the safety wire. It isn't connected in that one but I used a fishing snap swivel to secure it to the mount. I do make my videos differently in that I rough out the video with the program that comes with the Virb. I then save it to a file and upload it to a Cyberlink Power Director program so that I can add music and a narrative. I don't see how that could improve anything, it would be more likely to screw the thing up than help it. Keep it up, Larry > > > -- > > *The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant of > others.* > > > *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email > address before sending.* > -- *The older I get, the less tolerant I am of those who are intolerant of others.* *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.