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1. 02:30 PM - new to Kolb list (flywithme)
2. 03:13 PM - Re: new to Kolb list (Bill Berle)
3. 05:07 PM - Re: new to Kolb list (Stuart Harner)
4. 05:31 PM - Fw: q (Russ Kinne)
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| Subject: | new to Kolb list |
Hello I am new to the Kolb list and new to the UL airplane too. in my youth i would
fly with my dad in his Cessna 150 and also flew it myself some,but always
with my dad. that was thirty some years ago and now i am in a position to have
my own plane again. i still have my own runway although it needs some repair
but that won't be a problem. I have purchased a Kolb Firefly for my first UL
and just found this list. any suggestions on how i should go about learning to
fly the Firefly? any advice or criticism is welcome. Thanks John
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| Subject: | Re: new to Kolb list |
It is absolutely essential and critical for you to get at least a few hours of
flight instruction. Especially since your previous experiences were many years
ago.I'm not saying you need 30 or 40 hours of expensive flight training. I'm
saying you need a few hours, depending on your previous experience and how fast
you pick up the physical feeling, instinct, and understanding of flight principles.
If you can find a light-sport / LSA instructor, or an ultralight instructor, you
will be better off than if you just went to a regular Cessna or Piper general
aviation flight school.
Contact the US Ultralight Association USUA, and they will help you find somewhere
close. USUA is very focused on safety and making sure you have a safe, enjoyable
experience with your aircraft.
DO NOT just try to "teach yourself" by being careful and doing it somewhere by
yourself. This is nearly guaranteed to damage your aircraft needlessly.
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
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On Thu, 4/28/16, flywithme <constrjh@pldi.net> wrote:
Subject: Kolb-List: new to Kolb list
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Date: Thursday, April 28, 2016, 2:29 PM
"flywithme" <constrjh@pldi.net>
Hello I am new to the Kolb list and new to the UL airplane
too. in my youth i would fly with my dad in his Cessna 150
and also flew it myself some,but always with my dad. that
was thirty some years ago and now i am in a position to have
my own plane again. i still have my own runway although it
needs some repair but that won't be a problem. I have
purchased a Kolb Firefly for my first UL and just found this
list. any suggestions on how i should go about learning to
fly the Firefly? any advice or criticism is
welcome.ThanksJohn
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| Subject: | new to Kolb list |
Hi John,
Welcome to the world of Kolb and this list!
You will find a wide range of experiences and advice from this list. Search
"first flights" and see what comes up. There are different opinions on how
to do a first flight. I would recommend reading all of them. The more you
know, the better prepared you will be.
Based on what you have posted so far, it would appear that you do not have
any formal flight training. That is OK but would indicate that you probably
need more experience. Do you have much experience with take offs and
landings or just driving around the sky?
I LOVE my Firefly! It is a really fun airplane to fly but it is NOT a Cessna
150. I had lots of hours in an Aeronca Chief which is closer to the Firefly
than the 150 but it was still a lot different than the Firefly. 250 pounds
aircraft weight acts a lot differently than 800 pounds.
I would say that based on what you have said so far, some dual time in the
lightest tail dragger you can find is essential for you. I would recommend
finding someplace that you can take enough lessons to at least solo in a
taildragger. They are a completely different machine than a tri-cycle gear.
Not bad, just different. There is a reason that the FAA requires a sign off
for tailwheel flight. If you can find someone to give you lessons in a two
place Kolb go for it! Buy the gas, buy lunch, whatever you have to do to get
time in a Kolb, even if not "official" training. After that I would look
for any other very light weight (LSA) taildragger. IF not available, a Cub
or Champ would be the next closest.
Once you can solo one of these, you will have a much better idea of what a
Firefly will be like. BUT, not quite, the Firefly is a true ultralight and
you need to be ready for the extra light weight. Also a Kolb with a high
mounted engine has different inputs than a centerline mounted engine. Again,
NOT bad, just different.
The advice that Bill gave is spot on. In a way it may be good that you don't
have lots of hours in a type of aircraft that is way different. That way you
won't have as much to "un-learn" or put another way, you probably don't have
any bad habits that need correcting.
Do you already have a Firefly? If not, are you going to get a used one or
order a new one from the factory? Bryan (owner of Kolb) is a really swell
guy and will NOT steer you wrong. If you are still looking, please give him
a call at the factory and introduce yourself. You will be glad you did.
Please let the rest of us know more about you. Where you live, if you have a
Firefly already, what your runway is like, etc. There may be an owner nearby
that will help you out. This list is a pretty giving bunch of pilots.
Lastly, if you have read this far, Please, Please, Please don't take any of
this as "know it all" or "preachy" or "snobbish". I don't like "safety
police" myself and will only say that I would rather have a lively
discussion on this list than read about you in the "bad" report from the
FAA. Your safety is YOUR business, not mine. You asked for advice, so there
it is...
Offered at the exact price you paid for it.
Again, WELCOME, and let's talk more,
Stuart
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Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 4:30 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: new to Kolb list
Hello I am new to the Kolb list and new to the UL airplane too. in my youth
i would fly with my dad in his Cessna 150 and also flew it myself some,but
always with my dad. that was thirty some years ago and now i am in a
position to have my own plane again. i still have my own runway although it
needs some repair but that won't be a problem. I have purchased a Kolb
Firefly for my first UL and just found this list. any suggestions on how i
should go about learning to fly the Firefly? any advice or criticism is
welcome. Thanks John
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=455590#455590
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>
> It is with regret that I=99ve decided to sell my Kolb Xtra.
built 2007 (but not by me), N740VP,
> Rotax 912UL, TT 113 hrs, BRS just repacked, Icom A6. just
bench-checked.
> Insured for $30K but I think 22K is a more accurate value. Enclosed
trailer available
> Plane is in Maine
> Russ K
>
>
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