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1. 12:20 AM - Re: ground aerobatics... (Bill Berle)
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3. 04:42 PM - Re: Re: new to Kolb list (Larry Cottrell)
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| Subject: | Re: ground aerobatics... |
Now it's clear... I did not realize the new owner had wrecked it. The youtube videos
I saw did not show anything that frightened me... I'm an old washed up 15
meter glider racer myself :)
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
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On Tue, 5/3/16, Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com> wrote:
Subject: Kolb-List: ground aerobatics...
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, May 3, 2016, 7:44 PM
Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com>
Seems that Herb cannot get anything right today...been that
kind of
day....!! anyhow...the Test flight video of the
Firefly(for those of
you who have been following this saga) was the second
flight...The same
guy,experienced Kolb owner, flew a no video ,by the book
first
flight...testing trim, stall so on...
Satisfied the strapped on the camera
and did the you tube
flight....and the third flight was the owner flipping the
plane on its
back.. private , non accessible video at this time..
clear as mud?Herb
On 05/03/2016 07:58 PM, pcking wrote:
>
>
> That the pilot flies sailplanes could explain what you
see as extreme
> maneuvers in the video. A 45 degree bank is normal in a
sailplane when
> you are trying to fly in the core of a thermal. A
pullup to wings
> vertical is a fast way to reverse direction when you
have flown out of
> the core. This pilot found himself in a plane with a
crisp roll rate
> and enjoyed it.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herb" <Herbgh@nctc.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 7:45 PM
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: snow what???
>
>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>Just in case...this vid
shows the maiden flight of the Firefly...
>>
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmmXDbhcTwY&feature=youtu.be
>>
>>
>>and viewing it again...I see
nothing in the maneuvers that
>> alarm....he did a hands off...and I noticed a
slight nose
>> down...which is good...he did some slow flight
prior to landing and
>> some hot dogging of sorts for the audience ...which
is not in my
>> repertoirebut fine in
our little birds... Makes me want to try
>> them though... :-)Ain't dead
yet!! Herb
>>
>>
>>
>> On 05/03/2016 05:59 PM, Bill Berle wrote:
<victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
>>>
>>> Any English speaking people here?
>>>
>>> This may be the fourth or fifth time I've
asked... what exactly
>>> happened that got everyone so !)$(% upset at
the new owner of Herb's
>>> Firefly?
>>>
>>> Bill Berle
>>> www.ezflaphandle.com - safety &
performance upgrade for light aircraft
>>> www.grantstar.net
- winning proposals for non-profit and
>>> for-profit entities
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------
>>> On Tue, 5/3/16, Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com>
wrote:
>>>
>>>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: snow
what???
>>>To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>>>Date: Tuesday, May 3, 2016,
3:34 PM
>>>I have been so upset that
subject line is the last thing
>>>on my
>>> mind...!
>>>You think like my Southern
Baptist Minister...flew 20
>>>years in
>>>
Tanzania...supporting the ministry over
there...
>>>I called him and he said
pretty much the same....
>>>May have missed your calling ,
John!
>>>did you notice that the Warp
prop stopped the engine
>>>dead when the
>>> plane went
over....with no damage? Father....a
>>>miracle?? :-) Herb
>>> On 05/03/2016
04:50 PM,
>>>John Hauck
>>> wrote:
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>>> I
>>>
only have control over one person, me, and
not
>>>all the time.
>>>
Certainly
>>>
do not have control over anyone else.
>>>If
>>>
I sell an airplane to an individual, I
have no
>>>
responsibility or control of what he or
she may
>>>do with it.
>>>
Hope your customer does not harm or kill
>>>himself. However,
>>>
if he does, you have no control over
that. He
>>>will not be
>>>
the first, nor will he be the last.
Some folks
>>>are built
>>>
that way.
>>>
The
>>>
man has been warned. What else can
you do? I
>>>don't know.
>>>
One
>>>
thing for sure, the airplane seems to fly
well
>>>and did not
>>>
fall out of the sky, nor did the engine
>>>quit.
>>>
BTW:
>>>
I like the subject line. ;-)(
>>>
john
>>>
h
>>>
mkIII
>>>
Titus,
>>>
Alabama
>>>
From:
>>>
owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
>>> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]
>>>On
>>>
Behalf Of Herb
>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016
4:24
>>>PM
>>>To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>>>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: snow
>>>what???
>>>
I am in
>>>
contact with another guy on the field who
>>>witnessed the
>>>
accident and who did the test flight,sent
me the
>>>video, (do
>>>
not ask for it is
restricted.)...and he is
>>>not
>>>
hopeful...!!And I am
looking at emails that
>>>have been
>>>
exchanged by several others who saw
it...most are
>>>
discouraged... absolutely no instincts
that are
>>>necessary for
>>>
take off , let alone landing!
>>>I sent the wife and kids
...widow/orphan
>>>message...to him...
>>>
as thick as I could , no holds barred!!
>>>I feel as if I am witnessing
someone's
>>>death in slow
>>>
motion... :-(Herb
>>> On
05/03/2016
>>>03:25 PM, Larry Cottrell
>>>
wrote:
>>> On
Tue,
>>>May 3, 2016 at 12:44 PM,
>>>
Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com>
>>>
wrote:
>>>
-->
>>>Kolb-List message posted by:
>>>
Herb <Herbgh@nctc.com>
>>>Up shot...the new owner put it
on its
>>>back..and did
>>>
considerable damage which
the club members
>>>(a lot of
>>>
expertise in that club!!)
have
>>>repaired..to the extent
>>>
that the repair is hardly
noticeable...
>>>To be honest, after all that I
have
>>>heard,, it would
>>>
have been great if it
was not fixable!!!
>>>:-(
>>>We have developed a plan to
help save
>>>this guy....
>>>
lets hope.... (wife and kids
are last
>>>resort!!)Herb
>>>
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>I'm
>>>not sure what you are so
>>>
worried about. If the
guy had it on its
>>>back
>>>
already, he should be
getting the
>>>message, don't you
>>>
think? Nothing like a
little personal up
>>>close
>>>
experience to tell a
guy what he does
>>>and does not
>>>
know. Sounds like a
great bunch of
>>>guy's that would
>>>
help him put it back
together. I am sure
>>>that he
>>>
will now be open to
suggestions.
>>>
Larry
>>>
--
>>>
The older I
>>>get, the less
>>>
tolerant I am of those who
>>>are
>>>
intolerant of
>>>others.
>>>
If you forward this
>>>
email, or any part of it,
>>>please remove
>>>
my email address before
>>>sending.
>>>
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>>>
Signature text; Fort Marcy Park?
Sure...Mr.
>>>Foster...Third red light and
turn left.
>>> --
>>>Signature text; Fort Marcy
Park? Sure...Mr. Foster...Third
>>>red light and turn left.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Signature text; Fort Marcy Park? Sure...Mr.
Foster...Third red light
>> and turn left.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
--
Signature text; Fort Marcy Park? Sure...Mr.
Foster...Third red light and turn left.
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| Subject: | Re: new to Kolb list |
> I have differential brakes that are cable operated and the levers are on
the control stick.
I asked a similar question and a member (Sorry, forgot your name)
graciously sent me a pic of his. He has a cable looped between his dual
levers. See attached.
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| Subject: | Re: new to Kolb list |
For years I had individual hand brakes mounted on the stick, and I loved
it. To me it was very easy to use either or both at the same time. It all
depends on how close together they are. I built my own, so the handles were
where I wanted them. It did not take long for me to get tired of getting
out of the plane to pick up the boom tube to turn the plane around. Without
individual brakes it takes a 20 acre field to turn around.
Now I have hydraulic heel brakes and I have to concentrate to make sure
that my heels are not activating the brakes when I take off.
Give yourself a chance to get used to the hand brakes before you change
them. Do be sure to get a break away tail wheel, and do the reinforcing of
the tail post.
Larry
On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 3:37 PM, George Bearden <gab16@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > I have differential brakes that are cable operated and the levers are on
> the control stick.
>
> I asked a similar question and a member (Sorry, forgot your name)
> graciously sent me a pic of his. He has a cable looped between his dual
> levers. See attached.
>
>
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