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1. 03:46 AM - Re: Re: runway advice (Patrick Ladd)
2. 06:43 AM - Re: Re: run away from G.B. advice....:-) (Herb)
3. 08:19 AM - Re: Re: run away from G.B. advice....:-) (Charlie England)
4. 08:51 AM - Re: Re: run away from G.B. advice....:-) (B Young)
5. 10:55 AM - Re: Re: run away from G.B. advice....:-) (Jim Baker)
6. 11:04 AM - Re: runway advice (flywithme)
7. 11:40 AM - Re: Re: run away from G.B. advice....:-) (Patrick Ladd)
8. 11:48 AM - Re: Re: run away from G.B. advice....:-) (Patrick Ladd)
9. 12:46 PM - Re: Re: run away from G.B. advice....:-) (Patrick Ladd)
10. 12:49 PM - Re: Re: run away from G.B. advice....:-) (Patrick Ladd)
11. 01:16 PM - Re: run away from G.B. advice....:-) (Leland.Lam)
12. 02:37 PM - q (Russ Kinne)
13. 03:22 PM - Re: Re: run away from G.B. advice....:-) (John Hauck)
14. 08:22 PM - MkIIIC for sale (Robert Laird)
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| Subject: | Re: runway advice |
My Xtra costs 63 bucks a year in Missouri. We have personal property tax so
I'm taxed on my car, truck, motorcycle, boat, boat motor, boat slip, and
airplane!>>
Bloody hell. Move to the UK. We don`t have anything like that. How do you
pay. Once? Annually? Jeeeeez! Pat
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From: Rex Rodebush
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 3:02 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: runway advice
Hi John,
My Xtra costs 63 bucks a year in Missouri. We have personal property tax so
I'm taxed on my car, truck, motorcycle, boat, boat motor, boat slip, and
airplane!
There are about 10 private strips near me and 7 are on the charts. Sounds
like there are pros and cons each way. Tough decision.
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| Subject: | Re: run away from G.B. advice....:-) |
Uh! Oh! Pat....
Tax as a percentage of GDP is 39 % in Great Britain and 26.9 % in the U.S.
Herb
On 05/11/2016 05:45 AM, Patrick Ladd wrote:
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> My Xtra costs 63 bucks a year in Missouri. We have personal property
> tax so I'm taxed on my car, truck, motorcycle, boat, boat motor, boat
> slip, and airplane!>>
>
> Bloody hell. Move to the UK. We don`t have anything like that. How do
> you pay. Once? Annually? Jeeeeez! Pat
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| Subject: | Re: run away from G.B. advice....:-) |
Not to get too far afield, but I find the 26.9% number for the US to be
highly suspect. Having said that, I'm a bit surprised that Pat is
surprised. If he saw what some guys in other states pay every year for
homebuilt use taxes he'd probably die of cardiac arrest. :-)
Charlie
On 5/11/2016 8:42 AM, Herb wrote:
>
> Uh! Oh! Pat....
>
>
> Tax as a percentage of GDP is 39 % in Great Britain and 26.9 % in the
> U.S.
>
> Herb
>
> On 05/11/2016 05:45 AM, Patrick Ladd wrote:
>>
>> My Xtra costs 63 bucks a year in Missouri. We have personal property
>> tax so I'm taxed on my car, truck, motorcycle, boat, boat motor, boat
>> slip, and airplane!>>
>>
>> Bloody hell. Move to the UK. We don`t have anything like that. How do
>> you pay. Once? Annually? Jeeeeez! Pat
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: run away from G.B. advice....:-) |
I suppose if it were all on the table,,,, people would have a kniption
fit... After income tax, property tax, sales tax, state and federal
excise tax, utility taxes, special use tax, that added to the fees
collected in Lew of taxes (people get tired of too many taxes, so if it is
called a fee, maybe people won't mind as much). Schucks,,, when i was
in business they taxed the tools my dad gave me when i was 14 years
old,,, and when they could not collect enough, they had a minimum tax
added onto my tax burden just to make it worth while to collect......
I'll bet the total is in excess of 50 percent maybe 55 percent. After
billing me taxes on my plane for years. They offered a lifetime tax on the
plane, it was quite a bit more, but once and done... Sounded good so I
paid it only to have the program repealed the next year. When repealed the
yearly fee went up by 50 percent.
Do not archive
Boyd Young. Mkiii utah
On May 11, 2016 9:23 AM, "Charlie England" <ceengland7@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Not to get too far afield, but I find the 26.9% number for the US to be
> highly suspect. Having said that, I'm a bit surprised that Pat is
> surprised. If he saw what some guys in other states pay every year for
> homebuilt use taxes he'd probably die of cardiac arrest. :-)
>
> Charlie
>
> On 5/11/2016 8:42 AM, Herb wrote:
>
>>
>> Uh! Oh! Pat....
>>
>>
>> Tax as a percentage of GDP is 39 % in Great Britain and 26.9 % in the U.S.
>>
>> Herb
>>
>> On 05/11/2016 05:45 AM, Patrick Ladd wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> My Xtra costs 63 bucks a year in Missouri. We have personal property
>>> tax so I'm taxed on my car, truck, motorcycle, boat, boat motor, boat slip,
>>> and airplane!>>
>>>
>>> Bloody hell. Move to the UK. We don`t have anything like that. How do
>>> you pay. Once? Annually? Jeeeeez! Pat
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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| Subject: | Re: run away from G.B. advice....:-) |
Don't forget the Brits have a TV tax (colour and BW) and a hose tax. Kid you not.......hose
tax.
Jim Baker
405 426 5377
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I suppose if it were all on the table,,,, people would have a kniption
fit... After income tax, property tax, sales tax, state and federal
excise tax, utility taxes, special use tax, that added to the fees
collected in Lew of taxes (people get tired of too many taxes, so if it is
called a fee, maybe people won't mind as much). Schucks,,, when i was
in business they taxed the tools my dad gave me when i was 14 years
old,,, and when they could not collect enough, they had a minimum tax
added onto my tax burden just to make it worth while to collect......
I'll bet the total is in excess of 50 percent maybe 55 percent. After
billing me taxes on my plane for years. They offered a lifetime tax on the
plane, it was quite a bit more, but once and done... Sounded good so I
paid it only to have the program repealed the next year. When repealed the
yearly fee went up by 50 percent.
Do not archive
Boyd Young. Mkiii utah
On May 11, 2016 9:23 AM, "Charlie England" <ceengland7@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Not to get too far afield, but I find the 26.9% number for the US to be
> highly suspect. Having said that, I'm a bit surprised that Pat is
> surprised. If he saw what some guys in other states pay every year for
> homebuilt use taxes he'd probably die of cardiac arrest. :-)
>
> Charlie
>
> On 5/11/2016 8:42 AM, Herb wrote:
>
>>
>> Uh! Oh! Pat....
>>
>>
>> Tax as a percentage of GDP is 39 % in Great Britain and 26.9 % in the U.S.
>>
>> Herb
>>
>> On 05/11/2016 05:45 AM, Patrick Ladd wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> My Xtra costs 63 bucks a year in Missouri. We have personal property
>>> tax so I'm taxed on my car, truck, motorcycle, boat, boat motor, boat slip,
>>> and airplane!>>
>>>
>>> Bloody hell. Move to the UK. We don`t have anything like that. How do
>>> you pay. Once? Annually? Jeeeeez! Pat
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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<p dir="ltr">I suppose if it were all on the table,,,, people would have
a kniption fit...=C2-=C2- After income tax, property tax, sales tax, st
ate and federal excise tax, utility taxes,=C2-=C2- special use tax, tha
t=C2- added to the fees collected in Lew of taxes (people get tired of to
o many taxes, so if it is called a fee, maybe people won't mind as much
).=C2-=C2- Schucks,,,=C2-=C2- when i was in business they taxed the
tools my dad gave me when i was 14 years old,,,=C2-=C2- and when they
could not collect enough, they had a minimum tax added onto my tax burden j
ust to make it worth while to collect......=C2-=C2- I'll bet the to
tal is in excess of 50 percent=C2- maybe 55 percent.=C2-=C2- After bi
lling me taxes on my plane for years.=C2- They offered a lifetime tax on
the plane,=C2- it was quite a bit more, but once and done...=C2- Sounde
d good so I paid it only to have the program repealed the next year.=C2-
When repealed the yearly fee went up by 50 percent.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Do not archive</p>
<p dir="ltr">Boyd Young. Mkiii utah</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On May 11, 2016 9:23 AM, "Charlie England&q
uot; <<a href="mailto:ceengland7@gmail.com">ceengland7@gmail.com</a>&g
t; wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style
="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">--> K
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<br>
Not to get too far afield, but I find the 26.9% number for the US to be hig
hly suspect. Having said that, I'm a bit surprised that Pat is surprise
d. If he saw what some guys in other states pay every year for homebuilt us
e taxes he'd probably die of cardiac arrest. :-)<br>
<br>
Charlie<br>
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Uh! Oh!=C2- Pat....<br>
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Tax as a percentage of GDP is 39 % in Great Britain and 26.9 % in the U.S.<
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=C2- =C2-Herb<br>
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My Xtra costs 63 bucks a year in Missouri.=C2- We have personal property
tax so I'm taxed on my car, truck, motorcycle, boat, boat motor, boat s
lip, and airplane!>><br>
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Bloody hell. Move to the UK. We don`t have anything like that. How do you p
ay. Once? Annually? Jeeeeez!=C2- Pat<br>
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Thank You Again!! i just joined them.
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[quote="rickofudall"]You're welcome. See also:http://recreationalaviationfoundation.org/ (http://recreationalaviationfoundation.org/)
These guys are doing all the heavy lifting to get states to add recreational flight
to their RLUA's. They should be able to answer any questions about the advisability
of having your runway added to charts, what info to give, etc.
Rick
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 12:12 PM, flywithme wrote:
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> Wow Rick! Thank You for posting this
>
>
>
>
>
> rickofudall wrote:
> > SEE:
> > http://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2013/may/14/oklahoma-governor-signs-recreational-aviation-bill (http://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2013/may/14/oklahoma-governor-signs-recreational-aviation-bill)
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> > Rick Girard
> >
> > On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 3:24 PM, flywithme wrote:
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > the runway is already on file with the FAA as a private VFR only runway.
> > > and also listed a private use daytime VFR use with owners permission only
> > [Laughing] [Laughing]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
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> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=456068#456068 (http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=456068#456068)
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Hi Charlie,
we don`t have taxes based on owning something.(except houses) Taxes on USING
something, cars.lorries yes. None on boats, though you may have to pay for a
mooring or maybe a license if you are in a river or canal. None on planes
except what you pay for C of A. We don`t tip everyone either.
Restaurants,taxis, sometimes hairdressers (Gawd knows why) Women tip
hairdressers I believe. Tips are usually 10%, maybe 12.5% if you are feeling
generous. I have never heard the farmer who owns the field I flew my
microlight from complain about a tax and being a farmer I am sure he would
have moaned about it if he paid such a tax.
Pat
-----Original Message-----
From: Charlie England
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: run away from G.B. advice....:-)
Not to get too far afield, but I find the 26.9% number for the US to be
highly suspect. Having said that, I'm a bit surprised that Pat is
surprised. If he saw what some guys in other states pay every year for
homebuilt use taxes he'd probably die of cardiac arrest. :-)
Charlie
On 5/11/2016 8:42 AM, Herb wrote:
>
> Uh! Oh! Pat....
>
>
> Tax as a percentage of GDP is 39 % in Great Britain and 26.9 % in the U.S.
>
> Herb
>
> On 05/11/2016 05:45 AM, Patrick Ladd wrote:
>>
>> My Xtra costs 63 bucks a year in Missouri. We have personal property tax
>> so I'm taxed on my car, truck, motorcycle, boat, boat motor, boat slip,
>> and airplane!>>
>>
>> Bloody hell. Move to the UK. We don`t have anything like that. How do you
>> pay. Once? Annually? Jeeeeez! Pat
>
>
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<<Don't forget the Brits have a TV tax (colour and BW) and a hose tax. Kid
you not.......hose tax.>>
Quite right, but having watched the stuff on US TV and bearing in mind that
we have several channels with no adverts. at all, it is well worth it. All
pensioners get TV with no charge. Hose tax? Yep. Dont you get charged for
water? We used to get charged for water on the basis of the size (value) of
your house, with a surcharge if you used a hose. Most households have
changed over to paying through a meter where this does not apply.
Pat
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Baker
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: run away from G.B. advice....:-)
Don't forget the Brits have a TV tax (colour and BW) and a hose tax. Kid you
not.......hose tax.
Jim Baker
405 426 5377
-----Original Message-----
From: B Young <byoungplumbing@gmail.com>
Sent: Wed, 11 May 2016 11:50
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I suppose if it were all on the table,,,, people would have a kniption
fit... After income tax, property tax, sales tax, state and federal
excise tax, utility taxes, special use tax, that added to the fees
collected in Lew of taxes (people get tired of too many taxes, so if it is
called a fee, maybe people won't mind as much). Schucks,,, when i was
in business they taxed the tools my dad gave me when i was 14 years
old,,, and when they could not collect enough, they had a minimum tax
added onto my tax burden just to make it worth while to collect......
I'll bet the total is in excess of 50 percent maybe 55 percent. After
billing me taxes on my plane for years. They offered a lifetime tax on the
plane, it was quite a bit more, but once and done... Sounded good so I
paid it only to have the program repealed the next year. When repealed the
yearly fee went up by 50 percent.
Do not archive
Boyd Young. Mkiii utah
On May 11, 2016 9:23 AM, "Charlie England" <ceengland7@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Not to get too far afield, but I find the 26.9% number for the US to be
> highly suspect. Having said that, I'm a bit surprised that Pat is
> surprised. If he saw what some guys in other states pay every year for
> homebuilt use taxes he'd probably die of cardiac arrest. :-)
>
> Charlie
>
> On 5/11/2016 8:42 AM, Herb wrote:
>
>>
>> Uh! Oh! Pat....
>>
>>
>> Tax as a percentage of GDP is 39 % in Great Britain and 26.9 % in the
>> U.S.
>>
>> Herb
>>
>> On 05/11/2016 05:45 AM, Patrick Ladd wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> My Xtra costs 63 bucks a year in Missouri. We have personal property
>>> tax so I'm taxed on my car, truck, motorcycle, boat, boat motor, boat
>>> slip,
>>> and airplane!>>
>>>
>>> Bloody hell. Move to the UK. We don`t have anything like that. How do
>>> you pay. Once? Annually? Jeeeeez! Pat
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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<p dir="ltr">I suppose if it were all on the table,,,, people would have
a kniption fit...=C2-=C2- After income tax, property tax, sales tax, st
ate and federal excise tax, utility taxes,=C2-=C2- special use tax, tha
t=C2- added to the fees collected in Lew of taxes (people get tired of to
o many taxes, so if it is called a fee, maybe people won't mind as much
).=C2-=C2- Schucks,,,=C2-=C2- when i was in business they taxed the
tools my dad gave me when i was 14 years old,,,=C2-=C2- and when they
could not collect enough, they had a minimum tax added onto my tax burden j
ust to make it worth while to collect......=C2-=C2- I'll bet the to
tal is in excess of 50 percent=C2- maybe 55 percent.=C2-=C2- After bi
lling me taxes on my plane for years.=C2- They offered a lifetime tax on
the plane,=C2- it was quite a bit more, but once and done...=C2- Sounde
d good so I paid it only to have the program repealed the next year.=C2-
When repealed the yearly fee went up by 50 percent.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Do not archive</p>
<p dir="ltr">Boyd Young. Mkiii utah</p>
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uot; <<a href="mailto:ceengland7@gmail.com">ceengland7@gmail.com</a>&g
t; wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style
="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">--> K
olb-List message posted by: Charlie England <<a href="mailto:ceengland
7@gmail.com" target="_blank">ceengland7@gmail.com</a>><br>
<br>
Not to get too far afield, but I find the 26.9% number for the US to be hig
hly suspect. Having said that, I'm a bit surprised that Pat is surprise
d. If he saw what some guys in other states pay every year for homebuilt us
e taxes he'd probably die of cardiac arrest. :-)<br>
<br>
Charlie<br>
<br>
On 5/11/2016 8:42 AM, Herb wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p
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com" target="_blank">Herbgh@nctc.com</a>><br>
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Uh! Oh!=C2- Pat....<br>
<br>
<br>
Tax as a percentage of GDP is 39 % in Great Britain and 26.9 % in the U.S.<
br>
<br>
=C2- =C2-Herb<br>
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My Xtra costs 63 bucks a year in Missouri.=C2- We have personal property
tax so I'm taxed on my car, truck, motorcycle, boat, boat motor, boat s
lip, and airplane!>><br>
<br>
Bloody hell. Move to the UK. We don`t have anything like that. How do you p
ay. Once? Annually? Jeeeeez!=C2- Pat<br>
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Hi Jim,
re `hose tax`. It so happens that my water bill for the end of last November
to the beginning of this May has just arrived. First. There is no extra to
pay for a hose if you pay by watermeter.
Charges are for 50 cu mtrs (10000 gallons) and includes charges for sewerage
(on the basis that what comes into the premises goes out as sewerage) Total
223.81p. Just for interest. Pat
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From: Jim Baker
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: run away from G.B. advice....:-)
Don't forget the Brits have a TV tax (colour and BW) and a hose tax. Kid you
not.......hose tax.
Jim Baker
405 426 5377
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From: B Young <byoungplumbing@gmail.com>
Sent: Wed, 11 May 2016 11:50
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: run away from G.B. advice....:-)
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I suppose if it were all on the table,,,, people would have a kniption
fit... After income tax, property tax, sales tax, state and federal
excise tax, utility taxes, special use tax, that added to the fees
collected in Lew of taxes (people get tired of too many taxes, so if it is
called a fee, maybe people won't mind as much). Schucks,,, when i was
in business they taxed the tools my dad gave me when i was 14 years
old,,, and when they could not collect enough, they had a minimum tax
added onto my tax burden just to make it worth while to collect......
I'll bet the total is in excess of 50 percent maybe 55 percent. After
billing me taxes on my plane for years. They offered a lifetime tax on the
plane, it was quite a bit more, but once and done... Sounded good so I
paid it only to have the program repealed the next year. When repealed the
yearly fee went up by 50 percent.
Do not archive
Boyd Young. Mkiii utah
On May 11, 2016 9:23 AM, "Charlie England" <ceengland7@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Not to get too far afield, but I find the 26.9% number for the US to be
> highly suspect. Having said that, I'm a bit surprised that Pat is
> surprised. If he saw what some guys in other states pay every year for
> homebuilt use taxes he'd probably die of cardiac arrest. :-)
>
> Charlie
>
> On 5/11/2016 8:42 AM, Herb wrote:
>
>>
>> Uh! Oh! Pat....
>>
>>
>> Tax as a percentage of GDP is 39 % in Great Britain and 26.9 % in the
>> U.S.
>>
>> Herb
>>
>> On 05/11/2016 05:45 AM, Patrick Ladd wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> My Xtra costs 63 bucks a year in Missouri. We have personal property
>>> tax so I'm taxed on my car, truck, motorcycle, boat, boat motor, boat
>>> slip,
>>> and airplane!>>
>>>
>>> Bloody hell. Move to the UK. We don`t have anything like that. How do
>>> you pay. Once? Annually? Jeeeeez! Pat
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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<p dir="ltr">I suppose if it were all on the table,,,, people would have
a kniption fit...=C2-=C2- After income tax, property tax, sales tax, st
ate and federal excise tax, utility taxes,=C2-=C2- special use tax, tha
t=C2- added to the fees collected in Lew of taxes (people get tired of to
o many taxes, so if it is called a fee, maybe people won't mind as much
).=C2-=C2- Schucks,,,=C2-=C2- when i was in business they taxed the
tools my dad gave me when i was 14 years old,,,=C2-=C2- and when they
could not collect enough, they had a minimum tax added onto my tax burden j
ust to make it worth while to collect......=C2-=C2- I'll bet the to
tal is in excess of 50 percent=C2- maybe 55 percent.=C2-=C2- After bi
lling me taxes on my plane for years.=C2- They offered a lifetime tax on
the plane,=C2- it was quite a bit more, but once and done...=C2- Sounde
d good so I paid it only to have the program repealed the next year.=C2-
When repealed the yearly fee went up by 50 percent.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Do not archive</p>
<p dir="ltr">Boyd Young. Mkiii utah</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On May 11, 2016 9:23 AM, "Charlie England&q
uot; <<a href="mailto:ceengland7@gmail.com">ceengland7@gmail.com</a>&g
t; wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style
="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">--> K
olb-List message posted by: Charlie England <<a href="mailto:ceengland
7@gmail.com" target="_blank">ceengland7@gmail.com</a>><br>
<br>
Not to get too far afield, but I find the 26.9% number for the US to be hig
hly suspect. Having said that, I'm a bit surprised that Pat is surprise
d. If he saw what some guys in other states pay every year for homebuilt us
e taxes he'd probably die of cardiac arrest. :-)<br>
<br>
Charlie<br>
<br>
On 5/11/2016 8:42 AM, Herb wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb <<a href="mailto:Herbgh@nctc.
com" target="_blank">Herbgh@nctc.com</a>><br>
<br>
Uh! Oh!=C2- Pat....<br>
<br>
<br>
Tax as a percentage of GDP is 39 % in Great Britain and 26.9 % in the U.S.<
br>
<br>
=C2- =C2-Herb<br>
<br>
On 05/11/2016 05:45 AM, Patrick Ladd wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Patrick Ladd <<a href="mailto:patr
ickjladd@hotmail.com" target="_blank">patrickjladd@hotmail.com</a>><br
>
<br>
My Xtra costs 63 bucks a year in Missouri.=C2- We have personal property
tax so I'm taxed on my car, truck, motorcycle, boat, boat motor, boat s
lip, and airplane!>><br>
<br>
Bloody hell. Move to the UK. We don`t have anything like that. How do you p
ay. Once? Annually? Jeeeeez!=C2- Pat<br>
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Unbelievable. Good job Trump is going to sort it all out. I know things
are bigger and beter in the States but WOW. Pat
From: B Young
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: run away from G.B. advice....:-)
I suppose if it were all on the table,,,, people would have a kniption
fit... After income tax, property tax, sales tax, state and federal
excise tax, utility taxes, special use tax, that added to the fees
collected in Lew of taxes (people get tired of too many taxes, so if it
is called a fee, maybe people won't mind as much). Schucks,,, when i
was in business they taxed the tools my dad gave me when i was 14 years
old,,, and when they could not collect enough, they had a minimum tax
added onto my tax burden just to make it worth while to collect......
I'll bet the total is in excess of 50 percent maybe 55 percent. After
billing me taxes on my plane for years. They offered a lifetime tax on
the plane, it was quite a bit more, but once and done... Sounded good
so I paid it only to have the program repealed the next year. When
repealed the yearly fee went up by 50 percent.
Do not archive
Boyd Young. Mkiii utah
On May 11, 2016 9:23 AM, "Charlie England" <ceengland7@gmail.com> wrote:
<ceengland7@gmail.com>
Not to get too far afield, but I find the 26.9% number for the US to
be highly suspect. Having said that, I'm a bit surprised that Pat is
surprised. If he saw what some guys in other states pay every year for
homebuilt use taxes he'd probably die of cardiac arrest. :-)
Charlie
On 5/11/2016 8:42 AM, Herb wrote:
Uh! Oh! Pat....
Tax as a percentage of GDP is 39 % in Great Britain and 26.9 % in
the U.S.
Herb
On 05/11/2016 05:45 AM, Patrick Ladd wrote:
<patrickjladd@hotmail.com>
My Xtra costs 63 bucks a year in Missouri. We have personal
property tax so I'm taxed on my car, truck, motorcycle, boat, boat
motor, boat slip, and airplane!>>
Bloody hell. Move to the UK. We don`t have anything like that. How
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Awe...... and now we have spiraled completely away from cool things like airplanes
and ended up smashing into the ground with political discussions. ..too bad
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Cmon - these taxes affect pilots, aircraft owners, airstrip owners, and everyone
in aviation.
We should know about them!
Do Not Archive, and Fair winds,
Russ K
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Patrick Ladd/Kolbers:
Please stop abusing the Kolb List.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
Hi Jim,
re `hose tax`. It so happens that my water bill for the end of last November to
the beginning of this May has just arrived. First. There is no extra to pay for
a hose if you pay by watermeter.
Charges are for 50 cu mtrs (10000 gallons) and includes charges for sewerage (on
the basis that what comes into the premises goes out as sewerage) Total 223.81p.
Just for interest. Pat
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FYI: My Kolb is still for sale. It will be on Barnstormers tomorrow, but
wanted to give everyone one last shot at it.
I can no longer provide the TLC needed for
=8Bit
and I won't be around long, so I need to sell it quickly, so I'm putting
it up at a bargain basement price:
MkIIIC -- N# 553RL (certified as an eLSA)
234 hrs TT Airframe, Engine & Prop
100hp Rotax *912ULS**=8B*
Always hangared
2 six-gallon tanks
Electric fuel pump
Airspeed gauge
EIS with engine info
BRS Chute (expired)
Intercom
Odyssey battery
3-blade *Warp Drive* prop
hydraulic disc brakes
Thomason stainless steel exhaust
=8B(no springs needed)=8B
Photos:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.4298307717.41.500807717&type=
1&l=f368fa4ce6
Video showing the unfolding/folding of this MkIII:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGblkR8cdYE
Price: $17,000
This price *includes* a fully enclosed aluminum trailer.=8B
=8B The trailer has four brand-new tires on it, with a spare. The l
ighting
has been re-wired and has been checked and works fine. The trailer jack is
both electric and manual and works fine.=8B It is ready to be towed
away.
Extra photos of the trailer are available. The price includes the trailer,
but if you don't need the trailer, the price will be the same.
The plane is located near Waller, TX (37XA : Skydive Houston).
Full-disclosure issues:
I have not flown it much in the past couple of years, so it does need some
TLC. Currently, the gap seal needs repair or replacement. The other issue
is that the original builder did a sucky job with the hydraulic brake
lines, and right when my life fell apart I had just torn up the aluminum
floorboard to get at the brake system (he riveted the entire floor!); I
never finished the brake repair or replaced the floorboard. Bottom line:
the plane flies very well, but without brakes you'll need to land it on
grass until you get the brakes repaired. I have flown it and landed on my
grass landing strip and used the grass taxiways without any issues with
stopping. (To be specific, the discs, pads, lines are all good; it just
needs a reservoir to be added, connect the lines and then an air purge. It
will also need a new floorboard.)
If you are handy and can address these minor issues, this would be a great
=8B (and easy)=8B
*=8B=8Bproject*.
=8BBut i=8B
f you aren't into experimental aviation maintenance tasks, then this might
not be the plane for you.
If I can't sell it in the
*=8B=8Bnext =8Btwo weeks*, it will go back into hibernati
on mode until I get back
to town (at which time, I will try again to sell it).
*=8B=8BPlease contact me off-list.*
Contact info:
Robert Laird
713-581-4976
rlaird@cavediver.com
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